is it fake? ORIS it real? :)

I recently purchased my first "quality" watch. I had read enough about fakes being so prevalent that I paid more and purchased straight from the manufacturers website.

@MountainStandardTime

3 жыл бұрын

Very smart.

Having the screwheads on the same side actually requires an extra manipulation during machining vs on diagonal sides. That is a nifty detail, Oris.

The fake watch seemed to have a worse transition from the lugs to the case. The real one seems smooth, while the fake had thicker lugs that didn't transition well to the case. I noticed this when you were comparing the crowns side by side.

I watched a video by Bruce Williams who has his own KZread channel and also purchased one and showed the small differences and fortunately for him he was able to get his money back from the local seller he had bought it from.

I wish you would have provided more video of the movements. Are you saying the fake is also using a Swiss Sellita movement? That makes no sense in the rep world and fake bezel movements are hardly the equal of their genuine counterparts. I think you have a refurbished gen and not a fake.

@MountainStandardTime

4 жыл бұрын

Ultimately, it comes down to my eBay transaction. The Seller closed his account. He didn't even try to argue it was authentic, or even a refurb, look at that box and the incorrect Oris font. It's perplexing! I agree!

Subbed from Sydney Australia, you just saved me a lot of grief mate, cheers.

I have an Aquis purchased from an AD with a brass washer ring in the rotor.

@AZPB12

4 жыл бұрын

Does yours have the rubber strap?

@fortbend7517

3 жыл бұрын

@@AZPB12 no steel

Man GREAT vid!! My problem is I have to figure out if my "previous version" Aquis is a fake 😫. Your vid is still a huge help for me with the packaging 👍

I don't believe the brass ring on the movement can be used as an indicator. I have 2 Aquis from AD's. 1 has brass ring and the other does not. I'm thinking the SW200-1 has a couple variants Oris receives and uses since the only change they make to it is the rotor.

@MountainStandardTime

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for that clarification.

All Oris Aquis that are considered in the old category start at the year 2017 and back, only have two Mercedes style pins to hold down the crown. And 4 flat head screw down pins for strap either bracelet type or rubber watch strap. But all Oris Aquis 2018 and up, have 4 Mercedes style pins on Crown side and 2 flat head screw down pins on opposite side for strap. Sir this is a kind correction please do the research I have.

On the Oris website, the current models that still have the red rotor show the print centered in the middle of the rotor weight band.

Great informative video. Just purchased another Aquis but this time from an independent dealer and wanted to check out its validity. So your video gave a great insight into these high end replica clones comparisons. Cheers David😀

The gen. selitta sw-100 should also have a deep and clean stamp! "733.XX.XXX" of some sort...My Aquis also has flat heads in the lugs and it's still Genuine.

HELP, just bought squid date relief red rubber strap, after watching reviews it says the strap smells of vanilla, however mine does not should I be concerned?

If they are so good at faking oris it would have been more economical to establish their own brand! 😂

@nickloss2377

3 жыл бұрын

@The dhgate 1:1 Replica reviews you're definitely missing the point of purchasing authentic. sure, if you're buying the watch to be able to tell time, go get yourself a Casio. there is a reason people call it an "investment." it's one of the few articles of fashion one can buy that will hold it's value and not depreciate. this is how wealthy people stay wealthy. and cheap people stay at the bottom. if you buy shit that doesn't retain its value, you are throwing away your money.

@MO-ss5mj

3 жыл бұрын

No need for marketing, plus made in china isnt going to attract big bucks

@dude...are-you-sure

3 жыл бұрын

Establishing a new brand costs a lot of money and time. Faking other watch brands makes sense to these factories because it saves them marketing and don't need customer service or even after sale service dept. That all translates to $$ in the pocket of the ring leaders.

@MaxEspinotti

3 жыл бұрын

@The dhgate 1:1 Replica reviews WTF you want people to buy fake? Dude, those chinese factories work illegal, paying less than the minimum to their workers, i don't care if they offer the same quality for less price, it is still a fake, a copy, something done illegally, but i can't convince you to stop buying fake, so continue supporting thiefs.

@alamore5084

3 жыл бұрын

They have established their own brand now called Orifis🤣

the brass ring in the center is NOT the sign of a fake watch, just go check out those Aquis Relief in a authorized dealer!

Another difference I just noticed. I checked the lume. The fake's lumed bezel pip is slightly yellowish compared to the rest of the blue lume on the watch (hands and markers). My authentic aquis had the same blue lume throughout. The blue lume on both watches seemed to be the same intensity.

@RaftGuidePhil

3 жыл бұрын

Your information is a bit off. The lume color depends on the color of the indices. The orange indices of a Aquis will have a yellowinsh lume. Also. I’ve seen Oris Aquis’s and other Oris models that have the brass ring in the center of the movement.

@csulaguy1833

3 жыл бұрын

Question on lume - how long should it last? Like, would a genuine Oris' lume fade away after about 30 minutes to where you can barely see the markers? Mind you, this is after pointing a bright LED flashlight at it.

@MountainStandardTime

3 жыл бұрын

@@csulaguy1833 I just did a review on a Par Weber watch with constant LED diodes. There’s a good comparison with a Seiko on lume duration. I think the Seiko died off at 1 hour. It dulled a lot at the 20 min mark. Check it out! Oh please sub too! Need the votes of confidence 😆 kzread.info/dash/bejne/X6BpksOdaZPSc7Q.html

However, the Y screws in an original ORIS AQUIS, can be facing both sides. I mean that, if you unscrew them and put the Y Head from the other side, it works perfectly nice. So, maybe, the Y-screw criteria is not absolute.

@MountainStandardTime

4 жыл бұрын

Dimitrios Mantziaras Totally agree. Just trying to identify red flags. My fake had stickers on and was wrapped like it was brand new. Screw heads shouldn’t be opposite coming from the factory.

@dmantziaras

4 жыл бұрын

Mountain Standard Time Good morning from Athens Greece. I totally agree with you... and, funny thing, I received my ORIS CLIPPERTON with the one screw placed like you showed on the fake watch...!!! But, this was because I asked from the retailer to change the rubber strap and put the bracelet on the watch before sending it to me... they probably placed the screw upside down. Fortunately, I registered my watch to the ORIS site (MyOris) and it was perfectly accepted and warrantied for 3 years, which means that the Serial Number was REAL..!!! Wonderful video, though,... I would never see any difference...!!! It is quite admirable, the job these fellows are doing..!!! I was wondering, do you have any idea about the technical value of these fake MOVEMENTS (precision, lifetime etc)...??? Thank you very much in advance.

@MountainStandardTime

4 жыл бұрын

Dimitrios Mantziaras agree

Some models only have the tri wing screws in the middle and bracelet connecter screws are normal ones, I highly doubt it's a fake you need to look up the exact code of the Oris model as they do have minor differences some of them being the screws.

@MyLifeInDebt

2 жыл бұрын

It’s a fake

great but how can I know is my ORIS is fake or not if I dont have one for comparison?

I just bought a big crown pointer date from the 1980s off eBay.....going to assume the watch hadn't been faked. Where would I find the serial number to check it with the Oris website?

@MountainStandardTime

3 жыл бұрын

john sanabria check on the caseback. My best guess. Thanks for watching! 👍

Just a heads up. Mine is 100% real and has a K03 on the bracelet. So to those with the only issue being the K stamp don't let it discourage you.

@MountainStandardTime

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for keeping the info flowing! It seems the box and the rough edges on the crown are the best indicators it might be fake.

@brentonfarrar8772

3 жыл бұрын

@@NE_One1 yes. It was purchased directly from an AD so there is no question to its authenticity. You're correct, a few minor things have changed.

After matching up the real and fake watches with identical links I measured them. The real was 166 grams, the fake was 163 grams. That was with 3 full links removed. Scary close!

4:22 if you look at the bodies lugs the fake has obvious notches top and bottom, each side, they looks like a square cut? I guess that's down to how it was manufactured?

Do you think that if i buy it from watchmaxx or jomashop could be a fake one?

@Qqqqzzzzznnnt

4 жыл бұрын

I’ve dealt with both grey market sites and they are both legit, very good buying experience and I shop with both exclusively for watches and sunglasses. Great customer service

@downsouth1678

3 жыл бұрын

@@Qqqqzzzzznnnt have you ever dealt with purchasedirect ? Are they any good ?

So is that design on the box a for sure giveaway that its fake? Has Oris never used a box like that? I'm asking because i saw an Aquis very recently with this same box...

@MountainStandardTime

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Matt. I do think I've seen that design on authentic boxes as well.

@mattdborys

4 жыл бұрын

And i should clarify that there were other indicators that it was a replica. The movement didn't have the "733 26 jew" etched, the "swiss made oris high mech" font was also centered on the rotor, etc

@MountainStandardTime

4 жыл бұрын

Actually, there is "733 26JEW" on the fake's movement. I also tried to explain how the fake font was centered on the rotor. Maybe that didn't come across well in the video.

@MountainStandardTime

4 жыл бұрын

forums.watchuseek.com/forum.php#/topics/5071113?page=12 Here’s a link to my fake’s close up of the 733 26JEW etching

I have newer and older Oris Aquis watches that are registered with Oris and they have these same differences.

My Oris Aquis came in a grey box from Watchmaxx, is it fake?

@MountainStandardTime

3 жыл бұрын

Not necessarily.

where did you get the fake one?... Which website should people be worried?

@MountainStandardTime

3 жыл бұрын

I can’t remember. It shut down soon after my order.

I recently fell into this trap, buying a fake ProPilot from eBay. When I realized it was a fake, I initiated the return claim. However, Oris HQ would not provide me with anything saying that the watch was fake and neither would my nearest authorized dealer who initially clued in that the watch might be fake. The best thing I could give eBay was a screenshot of an email from Oris HQ saying that the watch's serial number did not register in their system. However, this was not enough for eBay and they sided with the seller. I am super disappointed and out $850. Does anyone know a way to appeal eBay's decision or convince Oris to send me something more official. I know I am late to this video, but I'd appreciate any advice.

@villaman4818

7 ай бұрын

FYI (and others) Even if the watch (or anything for that matter~) is counterfeit unless you have absolute irreputable proof, an EBay advisor told me to always open up a claim to say it is faulty or similar. That way you will always be covered by the distance seller act(in the UK)

I’ve got a brand new Aquis Date purchased from a reputable authorized dealer and the crown on mine (sandblasted finish with polished “oris” logo) definitely has some bite / sharpness around the outer edge if you drag your finger across is with a little pressure. Not saying your video is wrong necessarily, but that alone isn’t an indication as I can confirm mine is a little “sharp” too. But also what’s sharp to me and sharp to you might be different :). Just thought I’d throw that out there.

@h0tdish

Жыл бұрын

Same here. Bought the Aquis from a authorised dealer and this video made me question the watch's authenticity, the crown's oris logo is a bit grippy

@1pauld

Жыл бұрын

@@h0tdish If you bought it from an AD I wouldn't worry about a thing. It's clear at this point that the crown logo feeling a little "sharp" isn't uncommon. Doesn't indicate a fake watch at all. But as long as you're buying from an authorized dealer and not grey market or ebay you can rest assured it's genuine. Authorized dealers who want to stay in business longer than a week or two don't sell fake watches. That's the whole point of them being authorized by the brand to carry their product.

@h0tdish

Жыл бұрын

@@1pauld sure thing, i've registered it on the oris website to increase the warranty and it matches. Enjoy your piece :)

I think the fake one has thicker bezel edge and thicker first link (from lug) than real one. These fakes are damn good I think

The fake oris came with a warranty card in the box?

@MountainStandardTime

3 жыл бұрын

I don’t think it did. It’s been a long time. I can’t remember seeing one.

IDK man... Both look real to me. One is just older and someone put the screws on backwards when the took it off for the leathwr strap one day.

@viktorfromkgb4455

2 жыл бұрын

That's what I was thinking . No way they do an almost perfect copy of the watch .... even the movement

@tylergraziano205

2 жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly.

@Najeeg7

2 жыл бұрын

This guy Is an idiot. And fd over some innocent guy and kept the watch

I can tell from the dial color but you need them side by side to tell

@MountainStandardTime

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks bboness. I’d take the worry out of it and only buy from an AD today. Please sub if ya haven’t already! 🙂

@bboness713

3 жыл бұрын

@@MountainStandardTime will subscribe my fellow Coloradan

I cannot believe someone would go to that much effort to fake an Oris.

@MountainStandardTime

3 жыл бұрын

I couldn’t believe it either

@omar10213245

3 жыл бұрын

right?? i mean, are Oris watches really THAT popular that its worth the time/money to purse faking one??

@seavee2190

2 жыл бұрын

@@omar10213245 Yes

@bigsmooshflopdong33

Жыл бұрын

They fake $15 casios. Of course they fake oris models..

Did you try searching the serial on Oris’s website?

@MountainStandardTime

4 жыл бұрын

I did. It came up with a rubber strap. My authentic watch came up with correct steel bracelet.

@AZPB12

4 жыл бұрын

Mountain Standard Time very interesting..

@RaftGuidePhil

3 жыл бұрын

Mountain Standard Time Some come with rubber straps from the factory. Your video and comments are rife with misinformation.

Geat video.. thanks. Ive since seen x 3 watches selling on ebay that have all of these tell tale signs. Ive reported them to ebay but they took no action and some poor schmucks have paid £750 + for a fake !!!!

@leiflarsen8422

3 жыл бұрын

well people buy "real" watches" on Ebay cheap, deserve it

K01 or j06. What does it say the difference? Does it mean anything?

@MountainStandardTime

4 жыл бұрын

Hamdi Aslan. I’m not sure. I just identified everything I could find where they were different.

@SimplyKnownAsTron

Жыл бұрын

That doesn't mean anything. Mine says H06.

Thank you Never thought Oris will be counterfeit been a $2500 , margin of gains will not justify their cost. Wow im shock Thanks again

I am still not 100% convinced its a fake. I used to be very involved in the high end replica collecting caper and I never once saw a rep Aquis. Have a look through forums such as RWI and RWG, you will not see one having been offered for sale, ever. The bracelet screw being backwards....an easy mistake to make, and the watch showing up on the Oris site with a rubber strap....this could so easily been changed over, which is probably when the screw was inserted backwards! As others have rightly said, the time and effort to make a "super rep" or a relatively cheap watch just doesnt make sense. This is common place for APs, Pateks and Rolex but an Oris? I just cant see it.

@gyurma7

Жыл бұрын

they even fake the F91W even though it's only $10

Thanks! Excellent video!

Two words; Authorized dealer . Some great gray market deals on sub $1K quartz movement watches, but when your playing in the big leagues (well… to me Oris is big league), spend the cash up front. This watch will be part of your life, for the rest of your life, and then part of your Heir’s life. Cut back on the Latte’s for a few months, and know your getting the real thing. (Non compensated spokesperson for genuine horological art pieces).!

So if the tri-wing screw heads are in opposite direction, then the watch is fake!? Would taking a screwdriver and changing them to the same direktion as the crown suddenly make it a real Oris Aquis!? Do you se the problem with your logic? It really doesn't mean a thing.

@MountainStandardTime

4 жыл бұрын

robinhal79 I was just pointing out the smallest of differences between my authentic and fake I received. I wasn’t making a declaration that if your screws are off you have a fake. Thanks for watching!

So how did you actually confirm that it’s fake? I watched this video and that other guy’s too but didn’t hear anything other than minor differences and on the box.

@MountainStandardTime

3 жыл бұрын

svtang03 I think when the seller on eBay immediately closed his account when I notified him I thought it was a fake. That was a good indicator.

@Snek03

3 жыл бұрын

Mountain Standard Time Dang. That’s crazy. Did you open it up to have a better look at what’s inside?

@MountainStandardTime

3 жыл бұрын

svtang03 No. I actually had someone contact me to buy it (knowing I thought it was a fake). So it found a new home.

@johnmack4835

3 жыл бұрын

Obviously you don't seem to understand what a FAKE is, of course the differences are small but hey ARE still DIFFERENCES ! That's why it is a good fake, because it is indeed hard to tell from the outside at first glance, but even a good fake IS a FAKE !!! Many many fake Tag heuer watches are sold on ebay right now too, they are called super clones because the differences are even smaller , yet they are still fakes, the serial numbers on them will always give you 0 info when verified on Tag's website !!!

I have an authentic Aquis titanium on a rubber strap that's registered with Oris that has the screw heads on opposite sides.

@funNactive1

Жыл бұрын

I was able to flip the screws and pins around on my Aquis. So an authentic Oris has bidirectional pins and screws.

43.5mm Aquis ?

I bought mine from authorized AD who is a personal friend. My serial number was registered with myOris and is a legitimate new watch with all papers and box. Here is where I see issues with this fake review. Bracelet screws can be put on either side showing flat or tri screw pattern. My Oris crown is not smooth. Writing text on rotor is in middle. Rotor centre is bronze. How can mine be a fake if bought from AD and registered as existing serial number as on back plate. Makes no sense.

This is an interesting video - i know i'm late to the party but I didn't see anything that screams fake - if you never opened the case and inspected the movement - its almost impossible to tell. I have seen many many replica watches in my time - some very good ones - as to the screws - Oris bracelet mounting screws can be installed either way in some (most) models and the bracelet clasps have different identifiers on them which might indicate execution changes i.e polish or matt - it sort of looks as though perhaps the bracelet was changed - still very interesting. I saw the orginal price tag in the bottom of the box - did the serial / references match on those I wonder? Suspect for sure but not enough to know if it was or was not a real Oris.

@MountainStandardTime

2 жыл бұрын

It’s been a long time since I posted this video. The fact the seller canceled his account immediately after I opened a case with eBay confirmed to me it was fake. I don’t think I made that point in my video or not. Just be safe and buy from an authorized dealer. Cheers.

So if the crown is sharp to the feel then it is fake????

@2531AM

2 жыл бұрын

I bought mine Oris aquis from a AD and everything matches (box, the screws, etc…) up to your video except the crown is sharp to that feel

@1pauld

2 жыл бұрын

I have a brand new Aquis purchased from a reputable AD and the edges of the crown definitely have a little bite to them when you drag your finger across. They’re not razor sharp enough to cut you but you definitely feel there’s some crisp edges there. No way is this alone an indication of a fake watch.

Negative: Replica: crown is to sharp Real: crown is nice a smooth Positive: Replica: Crown is nice and grippy Real: Crown is dull and slippery Its a matter whether your opinion being biased or not.

That is a terrifyingly good fake. I'm waiting for shipment of a used Oris Propilot so here's crossing my fingers...

@MountainStandardTime

3 жыл бұрын

Best of luck! Please take a sec and sub! 😀

Thanks for the video. It’s very informative and eye opening. I wonder how many people commenting that this is a real watch have actually ever owned or even seen a genuine Oris Aquis. As the owner of a genuine Aquis, I can see that there are enough anomalies here to ring alarm bells. Along with the other fake Aquis videos on here, it’s clear that there is a serious problem here. Those asking why would anyone bother faking an Oris when they could be faking Rolex, just think how many people would not question being able to buy an Aquis for £800, but would be suspicious of a Rolex for that sort of money. It makes sense to me. Also, the user ‘Sunny’ seems so desperate to disprove these are fake with his comments on this video and the others, I wonder if he has an anterior motive. Hmmm.

Fake Oris have been going on at eBay for decades.. I bought an Oris big crown in 2010 and only to find out a couple of years ago that it was fake. But to be fair it still works until today and the leather strap is good quality.

@MountainStandardTime

3 жыл бұрын

Yep. Strange huh? I had (and still do) people telling me it was authentic. Please subscribe if you haven’t already! Thanks for watching and commenting Man415! 😀

Hey guys. Am not saying those are real ones. Just the evidence for fake is rubbish. It is not new, right? Tri-head screw probably was the product of strap change (probably watch originaly comes with rubber or leather band). And the box? OK, again - its not new, right? Perhaps seller didn't have original box and uses box from different model (my wife has Artelier Skeleton Diamonds from AD with the very same box). I have feeling, that "watch guys" tend to see fake everywhere. There is a space for minor differences between watches (those two might have few years gap from each other). And yep - even though I am Oris fan, I don't think that making such a perfect fake is profitable and therefore i would bet it`s legit.

WTF these fakes are a nightmare. Thanks for the advice i love Oris.

@ManWithNoShame

3 жыл бұрын

@The dhgate 1:1 Replica reviews Exactly. It just goes to show you that for significantly less you get the same product. People saying fake watch manufacturers are criminals, I disagree. The criminals are the ones charging us horrendous amounts of money.

@bikerd72

3 жыл бұрын

@@ManWithNoShame aye, and why do you think the real company has to charge more than the faker?! maybe want to engage your brain...

Thanks for this “follow up” video to Cubex68’s. He had been getting a ton of flak in the video with people saying it was real.... I think your video helps dispel that and further prove that there’s a serial fake Oris maker out there. Also looking recently into Bruce Williams videos, he had gotten a Green Oris (where the date window was VERY OFF). And reading into the comments on that one, it was brought up that he returned it to his seller cause he wasn’t sure it was real... As for your video, since I don’t own an Oris yet so I can’t test it, on the screw heads for the bracelet, would there be a chance that the one flipped screw went in the wrong way from a strap change? I’m thinking not, as I’m sure the threads only work one way. And as for the boxes I’m with you on it being fake. Usually I don’t like to use boxes as a test of validity cause you can buy people’s real boxes online for a reasonable price... but in this case the box helps to the fact that it’s a fake watch! Again, thanks for your video and redive into these items. The fact that 3 KZreadrs have all “found” these suspicious looking watches.. it really dispels any idea that a funky reservice was done by a rogue watchmaker. Cheers!

@MountainStandardTime

4 жыл бұрын

My fake came totally wrapped in plastic and no links were removed so I doubt there was a strap or bracelet swap to cause the screw heads to be accidentally flipped. I do think the screws can be flipped. It is a male screw pin and a female threaded end post.

@technojoe4079

3 жыл бұрын

Hi there, which of these Oris watches are they. A superclone or? Thanks.

Hi, did you write to Oris with this? Please let me know.

@MountainStandardTime

4 жыл бұрын

Jon Irenicus I did. They said if I didn’t buy from an authorized dealer, they couldn’t help me.

@Pat_Fenis

4 жыл бұрын

@@MountainStandardTime That's bollocks! What a company... Without any support given. So they didn't even confirm if its fake or not?

@MountainStandardTime

4 жыл бұрын

Jon Irenicus. I understand their position. I’m sure Rolex doesn’t help anyone either. Lesson learned is: to be totally safe, buy new from an authorized dealer for peace of mind you have the real deal.

@Pat_Fenis

4 жыл бұрын

@@MountainStandardTime I thought about this for a while and came up with the idea that this in fact might be a fake watch after all. I think that there is a possibility, in case if Oris orders cases and bracelets from China, then maybe this Chinese manufacturer somehow "uses" these original parts, plus they order original Sellita movements and assemble everything there and sell it?

@MountainStandardTime

4 жыл бұрын

Jon Irenicus It’s hard to say. I just know if I was to buy another one on the per-owned market I’d have to see excellent pictures of everything... now it must have detailed pictures of boxes and warranty card. Or buy new.

Thank you very much!

thanks!!

Like I was telling someone the other day, there'll come a day you'd have to carry your papers and box around when you're wearing your authentic watch, just in case you need to prove it's real 😅😂

@MountainStandardTime

3 жыл бұрын

You don’t do that already? 🤣

@cartoonpete407

3 жыл бұрын

@@MountainStandardTime LOL 🤣

@oscarosullivan4513

3 жыл бұрын

Not a problem with my Amphibia

@cartoonpete407

3 жыл бұрын

@@oscarosullivan4513 High five!

@Dragon_rls

2 жыл бұрын

I always say “Nope. It a fake. Now buy me a beer”.

I collect watches. Have a vintage omega I know is real. I recently found a ton of Oris watches. Bought one. I'm starting to think they're fake because of the price. They're on eBay.

@MountainStandardTime

4 жыл бұрын

Yep. Bummer huh? Beware of eBay accounts with little feedback (even though they might be positive feedback). Heck, I left positive feedback before I figured I had a fake.

Nice video! You may also check serial number on the Oris website, this may help someone in the future too.

@MountainStandardTime

2 жыл бұрын

I did. Showed up with rubber straps, not a bracelet.

@tomasnovak6926

2 жыл бұрын

@@MountainStandardTime oof, some good soul on watchuseek better start a thread where people can list fake SNs. Thing is, you buy one used without a box and you may very well be in trouble. Scary.

@alansiller8986

2 жыл бұрын

Does this actually help to see if it’s lejit ?

@fofogreece

Жыл бұрын

@@MountainStandardTime might that explain why the Y screws are facing different directions? The previous owner switched to stainless steel strap and simply put the Y screw facing the other way. That's possible, correct?

Thanks for the review. However my eyes hurt when you started wiggling the watches one against the other. =)

@MountainStandardTime

Жыл бұрын

Thanks. I’m getting better with that. I’m my of my early videos. 🤣

@wckkee7

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

Jeez. Ill never buy a pre owned watch. Now im scared. For the untrained eye it s so easy to get screwed over. Thx for your video!!

@MountainStandardTime

3 жыл бұрын

It’s not that scary. Recommend using WatchRecon.com to find the watch you want pre-owned. It pulls in watches on sale in watch forums. Then search seller’s username to see if they have positive transactions in the forums. There’s a popular phrase, “Buy the seller”. Most watches will come up on Watch U Seek classifieds.

@MountainStandardTime

3 жыл бұрын

Oh! Please subscribe! Thanks!

This watch is not fake. Lol you don't know what you're talking about. The bar for the bracelet goes both ways. They changed the strap for the bracelet that why it's backwards

So where to look for this amazing amazing replica? And how much are those replicas sold for really?

@lespaulranger

4 жыл бұрын

I have one that I got from eBay. Thinking about getting rid of it. $500 shipped

Looks like the watchuseek posting got removed. Anyways, I got my watch in the mail. eBay kicked the user off of their platform already. To my disbelief, this watch is most likely fake. The box is made form this awful cardboard, doesn't fit together very well. The glue is inconsistently applied. Inside the actual presentation box, the watch slot is misaligned, there's a pull tab that doesn't reveal anything either. This all screams fake box. I just can't find anyone who is faking these. They are coming from a CA address, so I'm wondering if it's the same people who used to fake subs and went on to make Ginaults. Very bizarre and be careful! Sorry for doubting you.

@MountainStandardTime

4 жыл бұрын

Alan H. Thanks for the support. It’s insane that the fakes probably would have passed as real by most, only to be “caught” by their subpar boxes.

@lespaulranger

4 жыл бұрын

@@MountainStandardTime Yeah the watch feels incredible. I haven't felt an actual Oris Aquis yet, but I would say this watch the clasp sometimes doesn't want to engage and the bracelet has more flex than I've seen in cheaper watches.

@andrewbenson4439

4 жыл бұрын

I noticed that Watchuseek removed the fake Oris thread. Why would they do that when it was clearly a warning to prospective / existing Oris Aquis buyers. Ridiculous.

@MountainStandardTime

4 жыл бұрын

Andrew Benson, Agree! I don’t understand their admin ways.

What about a lume shot of the fake? They normaly dont get the lume right on fake Oris watches

@MountainStandardTime

Жыл бұрын

Sorry. I didn’t capture that. Thanks for commenting.

@chrishartmann-lifeofadocto4735

Жыл бұрын

@@MountainStandardTime if you are interessted- I just recently made my own video of a Oris super clone vs. A genuine Oris incl.the lume comparism- I can gladly share it - let me know

@MountainStandardTime

Жыл бұрын

@@chrishartmann-lifeofadocto4735 Hi Chris. I am interested! Did you want to send me your video footage and I could edit it and post it on my channel? I'd give you credit for the footage. It's been a month since I've posted anything on my channel. This Oris post was popular. It'd be nice to revisit. Let me know if you're interested.

@chrishartmann-lifeofadocto4735

Жыл бұрын

@@MountainStandardTime sure! Where to can I send it ?

@chrishartmann-lifeofadocto4735

Жыл бұрын

@@MountainStandardTime done 🤙

Off the bat, the dial......second would be the lettering on the dial....

Surprised they’d fake an Oris. But they also fake g-shocks and Invicta 😂

Both aquis same size ?

@MountainStandardTime

3 жыл бұрын

wong th, yes they were scary similar. 43.5mm cases

@wongth3100

3 жыл бұрын

My friend Aquis bought from AD, the Y screw on crown side only and not both sides.

@wongth3100

3 жыл бұрын

My aquis 39.5mm Y screw on both sides

@MountainStandardTime

3 жыл бұрын

wong th the lesson I learned is to buy from an AD and you’ll be safe from buying fakes.

All of the differences you highlighted show that this is an older model of the Aquis. Not necessarily a fake. Heck I'll buy this "fake" watch off of you.

@MountainStandardTime

4 жыл бұрын

Alan H. I’d love to be wrong. The seller on eBay closed his account after only selling 6 watches; another indication they were fake. Have a good reference for your older model theory?

@lespaulranger

4 жыл бұрын

​@@MountainStandardTime No I've been very perplexed since watching Cubex68's video and have been trying to find some better references to back me up. I have handled fake watches before, and they are often made to horrible standards. The chinese fake industry simply can't manufacture something to this standard.

@MountainStandardTime

4 жыл бұрын

Alan H. Not seeing the proof in that thread. Opinions seem to go back and forth on WUS as well. Bottom line, I wouldn’t buy an Oris on eBay without excellent photos of warranty cards, boxes, and watch. Honestly, this whole experience has got me thinking I’ll only buy new or pre-owned from ADs in the future.

@mc6666661

4 жыл бұрын

So would i

Excellent watch.........the REAL one of course.

The screw head was only put on backwards 😂 Probably the previous owner changed the strap at one point.

It's much harder to fake a box

@MountainStandardTime

4 жыл бұрын

Jimmy Sobrino Yep. Sad to see it was mainly bad boxes that tipped us off.

my friend if you put the serial number of your "fake" oris in the oris warranty it shows the watch and if you put your legit oris serial number it does not, in case:)

I agree with many here. I am not 100% sure it is fake. The movement Oris uses is a cheaper movement with there rotor, that looked fine. I think screw turned around on strap. And lastly, they make fakes of multi $1000 watches that have interest. Who wants a fake Oris? Other wise, cool video!!

@MountainStandardTime

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for commenting Brad. This video is 4 years old, but still pretty popular. One thing I didn't mention in the video is I initiated a return with ebay suspecting it was a fake and the seller immediately closed his account. Not something a seller would do when there's nothing to hide. Luckily, ebay reimbursed me. So, I'm confident I was on the right track. Heck, they fake G-Shocks too!

@TheBrad605

3 ай бұрын

@@MountainStandardTime I guess you’re right. I shouldn’t surprise me. 4 years ago😁😁time flies.

The box is the biggest giveaway.

@MountainStandardTime

3 жыл бұрын

I agree Bob! Thanks for commenting! 👍 🔔

If you can't tell that it's a fake, it's not a fake. The box may certainly be fake, but the watch looks 100% authentic

@johnmack4835

3 жыл бұрын

LOL, who and why wold be making just fake watch boxes? If you are so sure the watch is real, buy one from those sellers on ebay , they are there all the time, near 0 confirmed feedback, user names like "hjgff_87", from obscure places of the world, and once you receive it, send it to the official Oris service center for authentication, and see for yourself their answer !!!

@officerjimlahey31

3 жыл бұрын

@@johnmack4835 Who would go through all the trouble to make a fake $1000 watch that looks exactly like a real one? I can see trying to fake a Rolex, but an oris? And for it to look that good? Even down to the bracelet? Nah, I don't think anyone has time for that.

The watch is REAL, simply just STOLEN ( that's why so cheap, and seller has deleted account ). Empty ORIS box can be purchased on ebay for cheap... Just my two cents...

@MountainStandardTime

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for commenting Jacek. Always appreciate reading others’ opinions while being constructive/positive. It’s okay to disagree and still be passionate about watches.

Look at your video, I think both are real Oris. I bought one in 2018 with brass colour rotor ring from the sole AD. Then my friend bought the same model 7730 in 2020, his rotor ring is not brass colour, may be face-lift 😂. The wrong facing direction tri-wing screw was mostly due to mistake during strap change.

Hi there is one fake on Ebay like this

@MountainStandardTime

4 жыл бұрын

I believe it.

Made me check my Oris which I got on the forums :) @11:13 - My Oris Artelier's box has that design on top. @ 12:27 - My box has those red borders. Other than that, the SWISS MADE ORIS HIGH MECH on my rotor also is positioned towards the bottom, and not the middle. And the "S" on the cushion is also longer just like in your real Aquis cushion. So probably the fakers copied the box of other Oris models, such as the Artelier?

If you're not 💯 buy from a AD

The most notable difference is the amount left in your bank account after buying the replica ! ............... I'm glad I don't wear the box on my wrist

It's bad to watch you scratch the original with the fake watch...

Im going to tell you why these are both real. You cant tell me these oris fakes are so spot on, but then a perfect 1:1 rolex highest quality $2000 fake looks like shit with huge noticeable differences especially in the movement. I call BS. Those are both real.

@MountainStandardTime

2 жыл бұрын

Why did the eBay seller immediately close his account when I submitted the counterfeit claim with eBay? Hmm 🤔

@tylergraziano205

2 жыл бұрын

@@MountainStandardTime are you really asking me why he closed his account? How should i know.

Why? Oris isn't a high level enough watch to make it worth while

@MountainStandardTime

2 жыл бұрын

That’s what I thought too! You’d be surprised. They make fake G-Shocks too!

@bdegrds

2 жыл бұрын

@@MountainStandardTime wtf? Fake G shock? Why it's already cheap tech like a calculator lol

If i entered the serial number into Oris.ch/MyOris and it showed up as the right model, that means it's authentic right? Just wondering because on my watch both the screws have the Y-shape, on both sides of the case, also the side without the crown. I did not buy it too cheap and as I said Oris's own website acknowledged the serial number, should i be worried? I bought it from uret.se which is a respected watch seller in Scandinavia, but it is not an Official Oris retailer... Please help! :(

Interesting vid.

@MountainStandardTime

4 жыл бұрын

Time and Talk scary. Huh?

@TimeandTalk

4 жыл бұрын

Mountain Standard Time yeah and it’s a problem that many people wouldn’t believe exists, and most probably concentrate on Rolex and more high end stuff.

Who is making fake Oris watches to this standard? I've bought two high end fake watches before and each one of them had horrible rotating bezels, terrible barreling with the crown, and awful bracelets. These are like the 4th iterations of fake seamasters too btw. Who is capable of making such fantastic fake watches, and for what reason? It's likely that Oris ran out of their SW200 and had to settle for another grade of movement for these watches and had to sell them on the grey market. I don't think these are fake. I can't even find rep Aquis on any of the TD replica watch sites.

@lespaulranger

4 жыл бұрын

Which also explains why the date font is different. Because the movement isn't the standard one that Oris uses.

@mbrackmann8

4 жыл бұрын

This is what doesn’t make sense to me. There’s not enough of a market in fake Oris watches for them to go to these extreme details. People are just paranoid honestly

Yes it is obviously fake, I spotted the fake as soon as I seen the two side by side, when you know what you are looking for its obvious. Glade you noticed the two differences in the clasp, hadn't noticed that previously. I don't know for sure but I bet that the fake does not have a ceramic insert like the real one, would be interesting to see someone do a scratch test on it

@MountainStandardTime

4 жыл бұрын

justvettn And does the fake have a sapphire crystal? I can’t bring myself to scratch-test either one.

@justvettn

4 жыл бұрын

@@MountainStandardTime Yes wondering that as well, also I looked at a blue one on ebay that I thought was fake and serial number was 36 32226, picture was a little grainy so it could have been an 8 at the end but ya same sort of fishy serial number that you'rs has

Just found out my Aquis is fake.

Nice job of rubbing thoes watches together...SMH. Other wise, thanks for the information!!

@MountainStandardTime

4 жыл бұрын

My real Oris already had scratches... from being worn in the wild on many adventures. I could care less about the fake’s finish. Thanks for watching! I hoped I helped you and many others in the future.

@laplantski

4 жыл бұрын

@@MountainStandardTime I didnt mean to come off all douchy, that just made my OCD flare up when you kept rubbing your Oris on the Fake one. Cheers man, have a good one!!! And thanks for the vids...

This crime was even done by someone who has a KZread channel friend

@MountainStandardTime

3 жыл бұрын

HH... Yep. BTW, I just bought a GShock that turned out to be fake. Stand by for another fake/real comparison. 🤣

Even at x1.5 the talking is still slow...

You should smash the fake for a video

I like Fake ..