Holy crap that things rips. Fingers crossed the bets testing goes well. I'd consider picking this up. Thanks for the video.

Love it. Thanks for all the great videos man!!! 🤩🙌🏽

Thanks for this detailled review. Found lots of very usefull informations here.

Awesome flying mate!

Always flew my 85X on 4S despite all the fuzz. After 3 months I finally lost it on a lake :) Looking forward to get another one, this time certified 4S. Thanks!

Wow its quick!.. Looks fairly smooth a well.. Nice flying.. +Sub

Thanks for the overview! I have a GEPRC board here and look forward to testing it. BTW great tip to actually join 2 wires and then solder to the pad. So simple! To your question: to me 2-3S are great with 2''-3'' props. 4S is almost suited for even larger builds! At the same time there was so many boards burning that I hope this overkill makes the boards more reliable. Let's see :)

I still haven’t flown my 85x 4s. It’s brand new ready to go. Hopefully today I will. Looks like a blast. I bought it specifically to fly a technical proximity school and a logged tight forest with small dive holes. Can’t wait.

Cool. Be interesting to put together a long range HD R9M toothpick style build. Not sure what motors would be the best for extending flight time. Anyway, thanks for sharing. ☮️ Wheelchair John in Idaho 😎

very nice, thank you very much 🙏👍🍺❤️

Hi. Nice vid. I subs.. Erm does the upgrade come with the new Beta85x HD or it sold separately?

I have two of those installed in primo 3 toothpicks been flying for a while 3s no probs so far!

Awesome review dud! Got a new sub. Did you ever experienced yaw washouts before this upgrade? I just got my 85x HD and having terrible acro with this issue.

@MrShutterBug

5 жыл бұрын

The 85x HD is very heavy for the prop size, so washouts are possible. I think the 5000 and 6000kv motors don’t provide enough thrust on 3S to make up for the weight. It flies better on 4S but 4S batteries add even more weight, and the original 85x sometimes fails on 4S. So... it’s tricky. These components would fly better on a frame with 2.5” or 3” props, or it would fly better if it were lighter weight, like my ShutterBug 85 design. Good luck!

very good video and what resistance it has to the wind if it has enough strength greetings

Good, iloveit. I have this drone and i up to 4s, very nice

ive got the aio 4s board and its taken a ton of abuse. i bought it for an 85x build, then i used it in a toothpick build, both worked great. no problems with it yet, ive ran 40+ packs through it and it just keeps going.

Another great vid, do you do any post processing for the HD flying video?

@MrShutterBug

4 жыл бұрын

No. That's how it looks normally from the camera.

Great job Nate 4s on these seems like overkill for my taste but I wouldn't mind seeing this new 12A AIO board for a 3s Shuttlebug 85 or on a Toothpick??

Tomoquads chopstick cs3 would be a good frame, you can put 3 inch props and it is only 18 grams if remember right

I would love see the new version without the HD camera please on 4s

the frame still runs 2" props right? seems like 2.5" props would be best for this class of drone... Waiting to see what these companies will do with the cadex tarseer :) 2020 seems like a great year for FPV sight indeed :)

I use the motor for my 250 gram helicopter's tail for dives from 1000-2000 feet. The 19 inch main prop allows a 28 minutes endurance.

Thanks for the this video, Do you suggest connecting the camera direct to battery input leads? (spec says Power Input: DC 4.5-20V) I was powering my caddx from tbs nano 32, but after few flights, fc stopped powering the vtx and 5v pad out will now output only 2.5 v, not enough for the vtx to run. Also, does sharing power between receiver and camera cause any performance issues? TIA

@MrShutterBug

5 жыл бұрын

NocturnalScreamer I haven’t had any performance issues yet. Powering the cam from vbat would take some load off the 5v regulator and would probably work fine. Minor downside is that the mah used by the camera would no longer be counted by the current sensor.

Hi have you change the stock pids for vibrations on 4s? Thanks to your answer

Very cool! Thanks for making this video... I have this new 12amp 2-4s rated ESC and was going to do an 1105 6000kv setup on the Beta85x frame build tonight... but was going going to run 3s... Was wondering if it would handle that ok... thank you!

@MrShutterBug

5 жыл бұрын

I ran the 6000kv 1105 motors on 3S previously. It worked, but the kv is kind of low. I think the 1103 8000kv motors would be better on 3S, but I have not built that combo yet. Cheers!

@MattMerritt

5 жыл бұрын

@@MrShutterBug Ahh ok, good to know... I have a spare set of Happy model 1103 9000kv motors... do you think that would be too high of a KV on 3s on that new AIO 12amp 2-4s BetaFPV flight controller?

@MrShutterBug

5 жыл бұрын

Matt Merritt hard to say. I think the AIO can handle it, but the motors might overheat. If you try that combo I suggest limiting your throttle at first and check the motors for heat. Good luck!

@MattMerritt

5 жыл бұрын

@@MrShutterBug Excellent Idea... that's exactly what i will do! Thank you!!!

hi.. do have a cli dump file for this flight controller..thnx

Great video nice flying. I'm just not a big fan of the BetaFPV products.

fantastic review as always ... its a pleasure to watch your videos. do you think betafpv will replace the esc (not burned) of the first generation as they promised? i bought 1 beta85x hd crsf and 1 beta85x not hd crsf in the first batch with 16 lipo 4s 450mah and 1 week after receiving my 2 beta they made the announcement to not fly them in 4s or they would revoke their guarantee, you can imagine that I did not buy 3s lipo after spending so much money on this 2 beta85 plus lipo lolll so since February 27, 2019 I have $ 550 canadian dollar of beta85x that sleeps on the tablet. And the sale & complaints departement just postpone month after month telling us ( we must test them more )over again and again. and honestly after seeing your video test on the new board all my fears are dispelled for the esc fires. but they will still postpone the deadlines and maybe can be saved some esc from the customer exhausting to hear false promise and stop writing them for a replacement I find it combletely pathetic and fraudulent on their part I live in Quebec in Canada We have unimaginable winter so the whoop are indispencable here, I spend more than $ 1200 Canadian dollar on betafpv products. beta65x, beta75x couple to do shutterbug85 2s, pro2 75 ect ect and one thing is sure .. i will never spend any penny in this shitty company that does not respect their promise. We are hundreds in the same situation and we have no concrete answer from them and most of the time they do not answer us at all ... what a shame , and honestly what are our possibilities except trying to find someone who makes them understand the importance of keeping the promises they made in selling their products. I have finished lollllll I am really sorry to annoy you with this problem so you are not responcable but I tell myself if I do not try all the best i can to make things happen nothing will happen and I know that your opinion matters a lot to them. I tried to explain to them what was the false representation and the respect of the promises made to there loyal customer but they do not seem to know this concept maybe you would be able to explain to them lollll anyway continue your good job @Mr ShutterBug ! 75% of what i know about whoop i learned from you and i thank you very much for that good evening ps sorry again

@MrShutterBug

5 жыл бұрын

I hear you man. But, I have no control over betafpv policy. I don’t know what they will do in this case. Also we don’t really know if this one is safe on 4S yet. For that we need to see a lot more people using it. Remember that I also flew the original on 4s without any failures.

i had the geprc version and it caught on fire on the kitchen counter plugging a 2s battery in. never even got to in the air. they go into flames quick when they do, be careful all. first board i've ever had actually go up on flames! pretty scary when it happens so quickly and unexpectedly

@sol303

4 жыл бұрын

Holy shit that's scary

@Funcentric

3 жыл бұрын

Did you ever figure out why?

Any updates to the shutterbug build ? Man that checks all the boxes of what I’m looking for, I wish betafpv made it lol

@MrShutterBug

5 жыл бұрын

BetaFPV is missing out, but you can build one yourself. 😉

Hi ShutterBug, thanks for the reviews. i am flying on 2s but considering maybe go hd, but not sure yet of i go for 3s or 4s. The all in one 12a f4 i have got problems with the video in and out. Also the 5v beside the video in just give me 2,6v. Why, i dont know.

@MrShutterBug

4 жыл бұрын

If your 5v pin has only 2.6v, then the board has a bad 5v regulator.

@nbtran1975

4 жыл бұрын

@@MrShutterBug when i just got it, it gave 5v, and the video in and out worked fine. after a few weeks it got bad.

Thanks for the video. I keep having yaw twitch issue on my 85X HD from BetaFPV when I give more throttle or try to do a dive or something like that. I can't figure out how to fix it. I fly my Mobula 7 HD and it doesn't have this Yaw twitching issue. I believe it has something to do with the BetaFPV FC board. I use 3S 450mah on both whoops. I would love to hear from you on how to fix this issue or your thoughts on it. Thanks a million.

@MrShutterBug

5 жыл бұрын

Sorry to hear you've been having problems. It's difficult for me to diagnose without video. A "twitch" could mean several different things. I suggest you post the question with a DVR clip on the "POWER-WHOOP" group on Facebook (facebook.com/groups/277932932797118). I may be able to help you there, if someone else doesn't get to it first. Good luck!

@masumoto007

4 жыл бұрын

Yaw twitching because dirty gimballs or sensors? Mine were, i cleaned them, then it felt like butter 😊 You can also raise minimum sick movements in betaflight. Roll, pitch, yaw

@InfinityDrones

2 жыл бұрын

I had issues too... in the end it was a bad gyro...

What’s ur set up and rates

I'm trying to use this F4 12A AIO on my Betafpv 85x pro 2, the original FC(F4 1-2S AIO) comes with a built in receiver, does it mean that now i need to add an external receiver if i wanna use this new F4 12A AIO? I'm pretty new to this so any help will be appreciated.

@MrShutterBug

4 жыл бұрын

Correct. The 12A AIO does not have a built in receiver so you have to add an external receiver and wire it in. The wiring diagram should be on the product page.

that is amazing. almost zero static scratching on that footage how you do that WIZARD!? tell me your secretsssss plleeaseeee

@MrShutterBug

5 жыл бұрын

This is the Caddx Turtle 2 camera. It records HD to an SD card on the drone. Thus the recording has no static.

I have this setup on the bench for assembly right now. I'm using a different frame though. What size props are you using? I have room for 2.5" props on my frame.

@MrShutterBug

5 жыл бұрын

The Beta 85X HD is really quite heavy, and it has just 2" props. The same components would fly much better on 2.5" props. Let us know what you end up with, and how it works out! :-)

@Hyprmtr

5 жыл бұрын

Mr ShutterBug Awesome thank you for the quick reply. I should hav it built and tuned up by middle week.

@Hyprmtr

5 жыл бұрын

Mr ShutterBug I assembled it last night and did a couple quick flights. I tried 2.5x1.9x3 rush props and it wasn’t enough pitch. The only other prop I had was a 2.5x3.5x3 and it performed much better. It pulled 18a total. I have some good Gemfan 2x4x3 props on the way. I think those might be the perfect prop for my setup. We will se soon.

@Hyprmtr

5 жыл бұрын

I tried the Gemfan 2540 props and WOW! This thing came alive! It’s very locked in and the throttle response is amazing! It even pulls less current than with the HQ props! I use the Gemfans on my HGLRC Arrow and have always liked how they flew. I should have tried these first before spending so much money on different props. Lol

@Funcentric

3 жыл бұрын

@@Hyprmtr How did you measure how many amps it was pulling?

The PID are stock ??

I am planning on getting these parts for the new Armattan Tadpole. Any thoughts?

@MrShutterBug

4 жыл бұрын

The 85X today comes with a two board FC/ESC stack. That would be tricky to mount in the Tadpole frame. You would want an AIO FC like the one I showed in this video. Also the 85X comes with 1105 motors. Those motors are great for a light 3" build but I think they are overkill for 65mm props (and super overkill for 2" props like the 85X). If I were building a Tadpole, I would probably put 1103s on it. Hope that helps.

I would put it on a 110 iflght whoop frame with the whoops

hii, i have 85x hd with FC and esc F405 Flight Controller & 16A BLHeli_32 ESC V2.0, somebody say dont use 4s, i dont know can or No use 4s with that borad.. thnaks

@MrShutterBug

3 жыл бұрын

The early 85X models had ESCs that would sometimes fail on 4S but if you have blheli_32 then I think yours must be newer. So it would be safe. Still you may choose to use 3S because those batteries tend to be lighter.

Is it possible to upgrade Beta 85X HD to 4S version? I bought mine like 4 months ago. The one that supposed to be flown with 3S max. Is it only about the motors or FC as well?

@MrShutterBug

4 жыл бұрын

BetaFPV says that both the FC and motors should change to be reliable on 4S. Personally, I flew the original 85X on 4S without changing either. It's not like it's guaranteed to fail... but it can. I think you would be pretty safe running the new FC with your existing motors, as long as you don't plan on racing (high throttle for extended duration). No matter what you decide, I suggest you start gentile, and check for heat buildup in the motors before you go crazy.

@djfurione

4 жыл бұрын

@@MrShutterBug Thanks a lot, I'll swap FC first and see how it's running. Currently flying on 3S 450 mAh Tattu, but had some issues with those (beta fall down with no rx loss message like power down totally, instantly) Still I like this little guy, even if imo it's a bit overpriced. thanks again.

How do you charge these batteries? I'm thinking of getting on of these as my first drone before i build a 5 inch

@MrShutterBug

4 жыл бұрын

If you get a 1S drone then you'll want a charger specific to those batteries. They are relatively cheap and super easy. If you want a drone that uses multi-cell batteries (like the one in this video), then you'll need a balance charger, and a parallel charging board, and be sure to watch some videos on the safe charging of batteries. There are many brands, but iSDT makes some of the highest quality and nicest to use chargers. Happy flying!

@11jeopardy11

4 жыл бұрын

@@MrShutterBug okay cool! Thanks a lot :)

would you be receiving the 4k version? (caddx tarsier)

@MrShutterBug

5 жыл бұрын

I hope to have a video about that soon.

I have gone through 3 FC's already (the one paired with the 16A ESC) on my Beta85x HD and only using 3S batteries. Don't know why this is happening. Has anyone else experienced this problem?

@ADMIND3R

4 жыл бұрын

might be blowing voltage regulators bud, i just found out on my crazybee f4 board that i blew the voltage regulator like alot of other people have, so that might be ur same problem with this board, i just ordered one of these betafpv boards before i found out about my crazybee board. so i would try doing the same trick with a external voltage regulator on the beta boards, lookup trashcan voltage regulator on youtube and youll see what i mean

@madturk2176

4 жыл бұрын

@@ADMIND3R Thanks for the tip ADMIND3R, however the 5v regulator on the FC boards are ok on my failed boards. Must be some other problem. I am going to try the GEP-12A-F4 Flight Controller instead of the Betafpv 12A AIO version.

I just bought one I'm afraid to use 4s battery, would a 2s be safer?

@MrShutterBug

4 жыл бұрын

2S will work but it won't have much thrust. 2S is probably good around the house and backyard, but you'll probably want 3S if you try to fly any kind of acrobatics or dives.

Mr shutterbug I see pyro drone has the betafpv 85x on sale for $89 is it a good deal

@MrShutterBug

5 жыл бұрын

If it's the drone you want, then sure, it's a nice discount. They are probably clearing inventory of these older models. The new ones have an updated ESC which is supposed to be safer for 4S (this one is 3S only). Personally, I prefer 2S with a light weight setup like my "ShutterBug 85". Cheers!

@italkit2506

5 жыл бұрын

luke sky Walker I ordered 1 loved it and got a second one I don’t know of anything in that price range that’s better.pyrodrone is also 5 min from where I live so that’s an added benefit if something goes wrong.

Yes, that's the question! How reliable will that 12 amp board really be! 🤔😁 Do you know why they left off the buzzer pads, when the otherwise identical GepRC board has them? Makes me want the GepRC board. Hmmm, curious 🤔😉

@MrShutterBug

5 жыл бұрын

The two boards are very similar, so they must come from the same place. But, since there is one difference, there might be others. I don't have the GEPRC board to compare them up close.

@Clif_Brown

5 жыл бұрын

I'm running the 12A GepRC board in a Mr. Shutterbug 85 with 1103 11000Kv and been punishing it on 3S with GNB 300HV up to 520HV full throttle climbs and such. Killed a motor but the FC is fine and flying again. I have the buzzer hooked up to mine and used it several times to find it already.

@scootroter4859

5 жыл бұрын

@@Clif_Brown Why do you think the motor burned out?

@MrShutterBug

5 жыл бұрын

Scoot Roter 11000kv is too high for 3S. Those motors are designed for 2S only. I will be testing the 8000kv motors soon. They should be a safer 3S option. They have thicker wires too, which should keep the heat down.

@MattMerritt

5 жыл бұрын

@@MrShutterBug 8000kv motors? 1103? Can I ask which brand you are going to test?

Great that the thing works "as advertised" and you have had no fires..... You can see how heavy it is in the air though!

@MrShutterBug

5 жыл бұрын

Super heavy!

Did you get any jello in the footage and do you think it is a good cinewhoop

@MrShutterBug

5 жыл бұрын

You can see for yourself. I had a little jello before adding the foam. Picture looks nice but it’s hard to fly slow for cinematography. I much prefer my ShutterBug 85 HD.

@lukeskywalker4968

5 жыл бұрын

@@MrShutterBug give me a list of all the components for the shutterbug 85

@MrShutterBug

5 жыл бұрын

luke sky Walker here’s the video about my ShutterBug 85 HD: kzread.info/dash/bejne/hZh1p9yuprzIlM4.html Links in the description

@lukeskywalker4968

5 жыл бұрын

@@MrShutterBug thanks

can I use 6000kv motors version with 3s battery?

@MrShutterBug

4 жыл бұрын

Yes

@omhobby9481

4 жыл бұрын

I got my beta85HD swim and broke the ESC( 2 stack type 16A) now I will try this aio 12A version😁

Will i be able to install these motors on the new sailfly x?

@juneloko619

5 жыл бұрын

Or what other motors you recommend besides the stock sailfly motors?

@MrShutterBug

5 жыл бұрын

The 1105 motors in this video have the standard 9mm (diagonal) 4-hole mounting pattern. I don't have a sailfly-x, but i believe it uses the Happymodel 1102 motors, which use the smaller 3-hole mounting pattern. Therefore, no, the 1105 motors probably cannot go on the sailfly-x frame unless the sailfly-x frame supports both patterns. Personally, I think 1105 motors are too heavy. I would use 1102 or 1103 motors.

@johnnickerson9037

5 жыл бұрын

No wrong mounting

16AWG wire is absolutely overkill, and so is that foot of heatshrink they put on there. Please, please, please tell those guys to cut it out.

This red pixel :)

Did you fly it on 3s? If so, how did that go?

@MrShutterBug

5 жыл бұрын

I flew the 6000kv motors on 3S. They felt underpowered for the heavy HD version. The 5000kv motors will be even weaker. I don’t think they will be good for 3S. I expect the 8000kv 1103s to be better for 3S. I will be testing them soon.

@DirkaDirka07

5 жыл бұрын

@@MrShutterBug That's not good. I have some 4400kV 1104 motors that I was hoping to ShuttlebugHD with (w/Caddx Turttle v2) but seems like a non-starter with the Betaflight frame?

@MrShutterBug

5 жыл бұрын

DirkaDirka07 4400kv sounds like a 4S motor. You could try 4S but the 4S batteries are pretty heavy.

@MattMerritt

5 жыл бұрын

@@MrShutterBug Yesssssss! I have a set on order, 1103 8000kv on the 85x frame on 3s! You inspired me :)

@DirkaDirka07

5 жыл бұрын

@@MrShutterBug Not enough power on 4S and that kV with the 2" props.... I need some new motors for my build. Would you go with the 1105s and 4s or 1103s on 3s (want to carry the Turtle)? Or something else?

The lack of smooth vision might come down to the plastic frame -- I've noticed this with 3d printed frames -- with enough power there's is not enough stiffness and you end up with bad vision, poorer control and qualities you can't 'tune out'. Try a carbon frame -- you might be surprised.

@MrShutterBug

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, a carbon frame would totally fly better with this much weight. I do love whoops but they need to be lighter to fly well. I’ll probably end up building a 3” with these parts and stick with my light weight whoops for close proximity flying. Cheers!

What's its range?

@MrShutterBug

4 жыл бұрын

DrHabib Khan this drone has an XM+ receiver. Actual range depends on many factors. I don’t usually fly very far, but I know I’ve gone at least 500 meters with the XM+. Cheers.

@DrHabibKhan

4 жыл бұрын

@@MrShutterBug I am about to order this quad as my first FPV Drone. Can you please recommended a good controller + goggles for it? I am on a budget.

I've had 2 of these, both came down with "Yellow screens of death" it's a major issue with this drone. Avoid.

@MrShutterBug

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, that's an issue with the Caddix Turtle camera specifically. Surprisingly, my friend was able to fix his! kzread.info/dash/bejne/d2WH2pWvg9G9e7Q.html

I Don't Pay to Beta Test Stuff. I've made this mistake on the betafpv75x betafpv65x so Betafpv will never get another penny from me, every betafpv quad has a problem somewhere, the support is rubbish too.

anyone try 1105 6000kv on 4s

@MrShutterBug

3 жыл бұрын

I have. It worked for me.

I'm in the minority here, but I prefer that HD look to the over processed, super stabilized, color corrected, major edited look everyone else's GoPro flight footage looks like lately.

i get this issue with a 3s kzread.info/dash/bejne/o6ijrMefYqeefso.html