Best Value ThinkPads in 2020

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Hello everyone! Today's video serves as an update and revision to my "ThinkPad on a Budget" buyer's guide series that I made around 2 years ago. In this video I discuss three ThinkPads that I think serve as the best value machines that you can buy used, and why I chose them as opposed to other models. Hope you guys enjoy the video!
Additionally, I just made a follow-up to this video talking about the thinner ThinkPads that replaced these models, feel free to check it out here!
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  • @JohnWilson-hb5qc
    @JohnWilson-hb5qc4 жыл бұрын

    I really like how you mix in the surroundings of where you live into these videos, and sort of work them into the narrative of the ThinkPad. Showing a T430 on the stage of an acclaimed music hall as you talk about it being one of the last "classic" machines, incorporating trains into the background as they parallel the ThinkPad's solid, utilitarian construction, you do a wonderful job of not just telling the story verbally, but visually too! Can't wait to see more videos!

  • @klwthe3rd
    @klwthe3rd4 жыл бұрын

    This video is the pinnacle of ThinkPad reviews. Honestly these types of videos is why I subscribed to the channel. That and Sebi's quirky ways too. 😋

  • @BokBarber
    @BokBarber4 жыл бұрын

    Watching this from my Thinkpad T430, which I bought new in 2012. Despite having paid full market prices for something that's now worth $200, I'm still happy with this machine and consider it to be one of the better purchases I've ever made. If you're considering a T430, here are some things that I'd highlight: 1) As the video said, a screen upgrade is almost essential. The 1080p upgrade is a bit hinky to get situated, but very doable if you're experienced with taking laptops apart. It's about as complicated as a motherboard replacement, with the added "thrills" of carefully handling a naked and easily breakable IPS diaplay. 2) Some models may have an HDD instead of an SSD, and that should also be upgraded. This is fairly easy as long as you have access to disk cloning software, and pretty much trivial if you pony up for the SATA ultra-bay caddy. Pop it in, clone the drive, swap the drives. I just upgraded to a bigger SSD a week ago and it took about an hour to get working (including the time to copy the drive.) There's only one screw holding the T430's hard drive in place. 3) Don't bother with the internal GPU that some of these came with. I had one. It barely impacted performance. The only thing it really offered of any value was that you could drive up to four displays at once instead of three, but let's be real: nobody really needs four displays. IMO, it's just one more thing to break and brick your motherboard (as it did with mine, though granted this happened after 7 years of reliable service) for no appreciable gain in gaming performance. 4) Unless you're going the external GPU route, be realistic with your expectations of this machine. It'll be a great general productivity, student, internet browsing machine that can handle running VMs, moderate processing tasks, and the like. It's not gonna play games very well on the go. You're honestly better off building a desktop gaming PC if 60fps 4k is your goal. I have a desktop set up for gaming in the back room and use the Thinkpad for nearly everything else. 5) I've had no problem with the chiclet style keyboard. It still has a very nice key feel (particularly the non-backlit one,) and you won't miss the original IBM layout if you've never dealt with it. The only major downsides it presents are that it hid some of the less used keys like system request, so if you have a program that uses those keys you'll need to learn the fn key combos. 6) Make sure you update the BIOS and all drivers. Earlier revisions of the BIOS had issues with sound, particularly when using the dock. You don't know how good the previous owner was at updating this stuff. Failing to do these updates could leave you troubleshooting mystery problems and wasting your time. 7) Things that broke when I upgraded to Windows 10 and probably won't ever get fixed: wireless display through Intel's WIDI (no longer supported), biometrics from a hard reboot (they still work when waking up from sleep,) and battery life got a bit worse. Just something to keep in mind. 8) Prepare for a nice experience. Motherboard died? Get a $40 donor unit on ebay. Somehow cracked the bezel? Rip a replacement off that same donor unit. Need biometrics? Buy an upgraded bezel for not that much money. Oh no, you dropped your computer? It probably still works, don't worry! Just pop the screen tabs back in, accept the new battle scar on the corner and move on. Yours came with a DVD drive but you want a Blu-ray player or second hard drive? Buy the ultrabay drive and hot swap it in! No part on these machines is rare or hard to find. There's very little to go wrong, and when it does you have a decent owner community and cheap parts galore. After doing the screen mod, I honestly can't think of any reason I'd upgrade to a new laptop for at least another five years. It does everything I want. It's sad that laptops aren't as modular and dependable as these machines anymore, so I'll hold onto this one for as long as is viable.

  • @WolfgangsChannel
    @WolfgangsChannel4 жыл бұрын

    Totally agree on the keyboard part, it's an enthusiast project with a lot of moving parts and sourcing the hardware for it is a huge pain in the ass. It's nowhere near as easy as the 20-series keyboard swap. That being said, the chances of putting a classic keyboard into T480 are still technically higher than the chances of putting one into T440p 😂 The Thunderbolt port situation is a really bad move from Lenovo. Some users on Reddit speculate that the firmware patch is only going to prolong the Thunderbolt controller lifespan enough so that it breaks after the warranty has expired, but only time will tell. Wouldn't be surprised about that to be honest. I definitely won't be recommending those 80-series machines until it's clear whether the firmware update actually fixes the problem or not.

  • @SebisRandomTech

    @SebisRandomTech

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yep, as I said my biggest concern about the patch Lenovo released is that we don’t know how much of a fix it is. Having recently acquired a T480 myself with the intent of using it through the rest of my college career, I really have worries about it making it through until I graduate and am seeing if it’s possible for me to upgrade my original warranty to the longest one they provide. It’s still a very nice laptop and I’m looking forward to making a video about it, and if I keep it for the next 2, 3, 4+ years it would be interesting to see how it wears and ages, as it’s the very first time I’ve purchased a brand new laptop. I could see myself making 2 videos, one now while it’s still “new” and another in a couple of years once it has worn down a bit. Thanks for watching!

  • @j.p.9522

    @j.p.9522

    4 жыл бұрын

    I bought my T480 because of you Wolfgang!!!

  • @reoencarcelado5904

    @reoencarcelado5904

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@j.p.9522 his name is Wolfgang like Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart? 😮

  • @AlternateSnake
    @AlternateSnake10 ай бұрын

    Cannot wait to see an updated version of this vid one day. This was so useful when I was in the market for a new Laptop a couple of years ago. Ah. Simple times. It was so cool learning about the sheer value these underappreciated machines had. I grew up using a Thinkpad only a little younger than I was and I got really attached to that X61. But I only ever got really good with the early lenovo and late ibm thinkpads back in those days. This video was a great way to bring myself up to speed (along with ur thinkpad on a budget series videos) and understand how these machines changed and what new perks the newer models bought and where there was a sort of upper echelon in terms of "classic thinkpad" Unfortunately It'll be a little sad and mellow now that I'm going shopping for an upgrade to my T420 and there aren't really any good value options left in the older T series (They're great laptops there's just more practical options now for the same or even sometimes less of a price). I am curious to hear what you have to say on the X series and just generally the sort of landscape of Thinkpads in 2023. A LOT has changed in the last 2 years. But anyhow Thanks Sebi!

  • @bijanshadnia3620
    @bijanshadnia36202 жыл бұрын

    Just bought my first Thinkpad because of this video and started making my own Thinkpad content! I love my "new" T420!

  • @mirrorslav5803
    @mirrorslav58034 жыл бұрын

    i still have t420 and i’m using it for more than 5-7 years ans still very powerful

  • @targobundy4291

    @targobundy4291

    4 жыл бұрын

    I got this one too. And still using it today for my research project.

  • @namyr2224

    @namyr2224

    3 жыл бұрын

    Good model name too👌👌

  • @largewoodenbadger7195
    @largewoodenbadger71954 жыл бұрын

    As of right now, this gets my vote for KZread video of the year. Great content, great editing, and a great channel overall! And I watched it on my T420 with the crappy display!

  • @Adam-qr4jj
    @Adam-qr4jj4 жыл бұрын

    Today I got a clean i5 t440p no HDD, 4800MQ, ultra Dock, 135w charger and thermal paste for

  • @bigsassyster
    @bigsassyster4 жыл бұрын

    People don't like the track mouse because they don't have patience to get used to it. It takes about 2 weeks, but once you get used to it, it is 100x better than a trackpad.

  • @archygrey9093

    @archygrey9093

    3 жыл бұрын

    I remember seeing a reviewer testing one and complaining that you can only move it a few cm at a time, they were literally just brushing thier finger across it rather than using it like a joy stick

  • @incxbxs
    @incxbxs2 жыл бұрын

    i'm currently developing enterprise softwares (on windows 8.1) for one of the global company you all know for.. with x230. This machine is beast. No cracks or deformation, broken parts, no overheating, no replacement (other than getting 9cell battery). Extremely portable, durable, almost 9 hours of battery on the run, ergonomic keyboard and was still getting bios updates late 2019. I could not describe it better i guess..

  • @jabalung5317
    @jabalung53174 жыл бұрын

    I just acquired a T440p because of your recommendation in this video. The video was very informative and I like this series on Thinkpad very much. Kudos to you.

  • @DonZenOfficial
    @DonZenOfficial2 жыл бұрын

    The x260 with the i7 6600u/16gb/512gb/FHD IPS is an absolute treat to use. Came into one by chance and I’m in love with this damn thing. Dual batteries, super small, built to last, amazing keyboard, ughh it’s sexy

  • @re.liable
    @re.liable7 ай бұрын

    Just wanna say I'm also interested in an updated vid. I barely see ThinkPads where I'm at but hopefully I can find some

  • @peacockli
    @peacockli4 жыл бұрын

    Picked up a T430 a bit over half a year ago for $50, possibly my greatest purchase of all time

  • @carlwhitlatch3311
    @carlwhitlatch33114 жыл бұрын

    Just wanted to say that I picked up a t440s based on your videos. I wasn't interested in upgrading the processor, and the slimmer form factor and better battery life appealed to me. The slightly lower cost when compared to the t440p allowed me to make up some the difference when I purchased an IPS panel and the t450 trackpad upgrade. I'm loving it so far. So much so in fact, that when my brother called me earlier today and asked me for a recommendation because his dog thrashed the Dell he has been using, I promptly ordered another system identical to mine. Thanks for your content, and though I live in Austin now, I was born and raised in Pittsburgh. I wish I would have known about your videos and shook your hand while I was still out there!

  • @SebisRandomTech

    @SebisRandomTech

    4 жыл бұрын

    Always welcome to come back to the Burgh! (well, when it’s safe to do so) I love living here.

  • @carlwhitlatch3311

    @carlwhitlatch3311

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@SebisRandomTech I'm currently converting an old party bus into a solar RV (or tiny house, microhome, whatever you want to call it), but when it's all done I plan on heading back east before I head down to South America. When that happens I'll let you know, maybe we'll find time and I can show off my geek homebrew motor home skills!

  • @caboose1289
    @caboose12892 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for making such top notch quality and detailed content. It's honestly better than most channels with 100x as many subscribers. I just bought a T440p thanks to you!

  • @SebisRandomTech

    @SebisRandomTech

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hope you enjoy it! Lots of good upgrades for that model as well.

  • @hexa3389
    @hexa33893 жыл бұрын

    I love how Sebi and Wolfgang reference each other in their videos.

  • @Scie
    @Scie4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks. I was thinking about getting a t440p and now I feel comfortable with my purchase

  • @rdhulljr
    @rdhulljr3 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic video! Watched on my T430. It helped must understand at a deeper level why I've always loved ThinkPads, and this one in particular. Lots of great tips about to upgrade / get the most out of this machine. 🙂

  • @kalkalico
    @kalkalico4 жыл бұрын

    Still rocking my T530! Got the i7-3520M, 12GB RAM, and two 250GB SSDs (I replaced the DVD drive with one and I have a dual boot.)

  • @EasonTek
    @EasonTek2 ай бұрын

    20:10 if you aren't aware, people have successfully built EC patches for the T25-T480 frankenpad thing. I think it can only be flashed with hardware, but it shouldn't be too expensive. What is the issue is that you cannot get ANSI layout classic keyboards anymore, the only ones out there are JIS.

  • @guptaanmol184
    @guptaanmol1843 жыл бұрын

    Love the "ThinkPads in the wild shots" 😍

  • @hazelknutty4983
    @hazelknutty4983 Жыл бұрын

    What a terrific video! Thank you for really breaking these laptops down, you helped me make a purchase :)

  • @ddogg14
    @ddogg144 жыл бұрын

    Watching this video from a refurbished T450s. My best friend has had one for a while and had nothing but positives to say, so I just had to grab one too. It's been a wonderful purchase.

  • @flo3467
    @flo34673 жыл бұрын

    Your video is pure gold, I just bought a used T480, T470s and T430 for 1100€ combined. I presently use a 2015 HP spectre x360 13" which I don't really need and just dropped a new battery into (and a new keyboard a year ago after spilling a glass of wine on it; total nightmare to repair >2h). My girlfriend needs a laptop for university, so I'll let her choose whichever one of those four she wants (I suspect the HP due to looks), see which of the other three I like the most, sell the other two again and upgrade the one I will keep. Most likely I'll keep the T430. Thanks for all the info!

  • @gna104191
    @gna1041914 жыл бұрын

    My desktop PSU blew so I was taking this chance to get a T430 and play around with it. Thanks for the very insightful video!

  • @MnemonicCarrier
    @MnemonicCarrier3 жыл бұрын

    I wish I could up-vote this video a thousand times.

  • @JoseAngelFlores
    @JoseAngelFlores4 жыл бұрын

    These Thinkpads are the best value! I bought a used T440 last year, I put away my Macbook Pro and switched entirely to Thinkpad. My T440 it´s a baby, it´s got a Core I5, touchscreen, two batteries, one removable and one internal, two internal slots for M2 Sata, one for the Cache to improve speed on the HDD, another one hidden under the internal battery. I changed the HDD for a Solid State and got two M2 Sata drives so now I have 3 drives! with 2 windows installations, one for fallback, which I found out I never really use. It also comes with a slot for a WLan Modem, but I don´t find the need for it. It´s a beauty. I am a translator and the Thinkpad´s keyboard it´s so much better than my Macbook´s, I type so much faster. It also has a fingerprint reader, keyboard light, hdmi port, one USB 2 port, flash card slot, etc. The Bluetooth works great, so does the wifi. I found a docking station in Ebay and I hooked an extra monitor. Loving it. Planning to get another one. I am thinking about the T470 or a newer version of the T440.

  • @SebisRandomTech

    @SebisRandomTech

    4 жыл бұрын

    A T470 *is* the newer version of the T440.

  • @gramoukdoom

    @gramoukdoom

    4 жыл бұрын

    If you change go for 480. But why would you... ;)

  • @JoseAngelFlores

    @JoseAngelFlores

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@gramoukdoom Yeah. I´m happy with what I´ve got.

  • @savingmemories777
    @savingmemories7773 жыл бұрын

    just bought a T440p after watching this. thanks the dope vids ✌🏼

  • @iliketowncars
    @iliketowncars4 жыл бұрын

    My daily used to be a T430 modded with the 7 row and IPS FHD. I gave it to a family member so it's still used daily. I now use a T420 modded with a quad and IPS QHD (2560 x 1440). I'm fond of the eSATA port on the T420 and use that occasionally for backups. They're both very versatile and competent machines, and still young enough that healthy batteries are affordably available, so they can still feasibly go mobile unlike even older models.

  • @MrGabriel110
    @MrGabriel1103 жыл бұрын

    This video gave me a very good overview of old thinkpads. Thanks !

  • @darthgamer6080
    @darthgamer60802 жыл бұрын

    2:59 Yeah... 2020 killed this for LOTS of old Thinkpad models forever.

  • @nerd2544

    @nerd2544

    2 жыл бұрын

    how

  • @digitalkarir
    @digitalkarir Жыл бұрын

    Your video blew up after 2 years, really appreciate your insight about ThinkPad on a Budget. Hope you doing well, Sebi's.

  • @SebisRandomTech

    @SebisRandomTech

    Жыл бұрын

    No clue why it did but I'll welcome the extra views. Looking forward to putting a follow-up video out sometime in the near future!

  • @MultiCyberAngel

    @MultiCyberAngel

    Жыл бұрын

    @@SebisRandomTech Yes please! I'm looking for one right now, everyone seem to love t480, but t440p still costs 2x less (at least in Poland)

  • @ProSimples
    @ProSimples4 жыл бұрын

    just watching this video gives me a certain kind of emotion. I love thinkpad.

  • @davep2999
    @davep29994 жыл бұрын

    Watched you and one or two others before I decided on a T430. After 6 months or so, I do not regret it at all. I7 core with upgradeable memory and nvidia graphics plus fingerprint reader and backlighting. Has tons of I/O ports. You have to spend alot of bucks now to get something better, IMHO. Also found a X230 in a recycle shop and it took very little to get it going. I like my Thinkpads.

  • @dragunovbushcraft152

    @dragunovbushcraft152

    4 жыл бұрын

    Congratulations! You got the "Best Bang for the Buck" computer, in modern history! I hope it serves you well.

  • @Benjamin-ko1fg
    @Benjamin-ko1fg4 жыл бұрын

    Watching on a X220 with IPS display :)

  • @Aprojects_

    @Aprojects_

    Жыл бұрын

    Watching this comment on a X1 carbon with IPS display:)

  • @pixelPlex
    @pixelPlex4 жыл бұрын

    It should be pointed out that the Thunderbolt issue on some of the newer ThinkPad's (with the T series it started with the T470/T570) is caused by a critical bug in Intel's Thunderbolt firmware, which isn't present in the newer versions of the firmware. If the firmware is updated "before" the damage is done then the will be no Thunderbolt issue, and the affected ThinkPad won't need to be sent in for repair (entails getting the motherboard replaced). Was a huge surprise to hear that the Thunderbolt Firmware is developed by Intel and NOT Lenovo. Intel used to manufacture their own motherboards, but often they were defective. One of the major reasons the Intel motherboards were defective was because of the buggy firmware. Clearly Intel haven't learned their lesson. It is very likely that other laptops supporting Thunderbolt will be affected since Thunderbolt is a proprietary technology, and only Intel can develop the firmware. Can easily see "Boltgate" becoming a widespread scandal that catches Intel off guard, watch this space.

  • @SebisRandomTech

    @SebisRandomTech

    4 жыл бұрын

    I believe I mentioned that the T480 was one of several different models affected by the firmware issue, maybe I didn’t. :P The patch released should fix the issue for controllers that haven’t gone kaput yet, but I still have doubts about it being a long-term fix. We’ll only know for sure in the coming years as these laptops are put through their paces.

  • @pixelPlex

    @pixelPlex

    4 жыл бұрын

    The version of the Intel Thunderbolt firmware causing the critical issue is v14 ( github.com/fwupd/missing-firmware-lenovo-thinkpad/issues/25#issuecomment-577871227 ).

  • @timlittle4428
    @timlittle44283 жыл бұрын

    Thanks to your inspiration I got a T510 yesterday. Thanks

  • @theimp67
    @theimp674 жыл бұрын

    I'd love to see a guide to using a ThinkPad as a Hackintosh., especially since my late 2011 MacBook Pro decided to die on me. Oh, and I ordered a T440P off of eBay - gotta stop pushing these ThinkPads Sebi, you're bankrupting me.

  • @sadelsor
    @sadelsor4 жыл бұрын

    Always use Think pad T series for my offshore and jungle work, when you are miles away from everything you need a good solid reliable friend, so many times I see fellow inspectors with cheap make do laptops but an awful lot of them "fail" like they say, "you get what you pay for" I would never take the risk with an inferior imitation.

  • @ootnaboot2
    @ootnaboot23 жыл бұрын

    I think the T530 is a fantastic laptop, had mine 6 years. I've noticed the T500 series are often better condition than T400 series. Possibly because they are used more at desks and not carried about as much as the smaller models. A lot of education establishments bought the T400 series and they get heavily abused, keys missing scratched/cracked displays and cases. Needed a laptop for my daughter for home schooling. Ended up with an X250 for £160 which is in lovely condition with a Windows 10 refurbished license.

  • @SebisRandomTech

    @SebisRandomTech

    3 жыл бұрын

    I just saw a X250 on eBay for $70! It's untested though....might be worth a risk for me or someone else! The T500 lineup may also be a tad more durable than the T400 series simply because it's thicker, and I imagine also because of their tendency to be used as a desk computer. Great machines either way.

  • 3 жыл бұрын

    I just got a X250 for 200 euros for my niece's home schooling as well. It has an i5-5200u with a 120GB SSD, 8GB RAM, all original with an excellent battery and in great condition. It's an amazing computer.

  • @KylesDigitalLab
    @KylesDigitalLab4 жыл бұрын

    As always, great video. I love how you take the ThinkPads outside and take b-roll footage like that. I shot some footage of my T60 out in the snow (I didn't bury it in the snow, most of the snow/ice was under the laptop and pretty much vaporized with the CPU temp)

  • @ariathyf144
    @ariathyf1444 жыл бұрын

    You're the man. I Couldn't make my mind on witch one to pick but you helped me decide. Glad they managed to finally open the BIOS on machines past the X200.

  • @ariathyf144

    @ariathyf144

    4 жыл бұрын

    So I picked a T430 for 61 dollars. (115 total for shipping and import fees) i5 2.6Ghz | 4go | no HDD (the bottom screen looked a bit cracked, no pic with screen turned on were provided but seller offer 30day return option) For now, they seem to go around 115 USD but without shipping. The famous x series look more expensive. You guys have any recommended links to max-out the ram? For screens I've seen 1440p displays but no 1080p ones. Isn't that too much for the GPU? I guess I cut the resolution in half in games and still have a sharp view since it's precise 50% pixel reduction.

  • @JosephFerrari540
    @JosephFerrari5404 жыл бұрын

    I love all of the Lenovo model and worked on so many of them, upgrading, and updating them without any problems. I highly recommend for college students of people that can't handle a nice cheap computer.

  • @theena
    @theena3 жыл бұрын

    Can attest to the T420. I swapped the HDD for a SSD, upgraded the RAM to 16GB and it works like a charm running most flavours of Linux. Complaints: Battery life isn't great. Neither are its thermals under moderate load - I try to downscale youtube videos and/or don't have a million tabs open for instance. But these complaints aside, I wouldn't part with it. Love the thing to death. Took it out to the field for some astrophotography using Darktable, and it was just an utter pleasure to use. I also didn't have to worry about the laptop's exposure to the elements as much as I would had I taken my XPS out for the same gig; in fact the midnight cool really helped the machine I feel cause I was able to eek out about 6 hours of field use that night, and it still had some juice left in the tank. That was nice. In conclusion, T420 is fantastic machine if you require performance and rugged durability in the open. Highly recommended for wildlife, nightsky and astrophotographers working out in the field. This is not a machine that you have to treat with kid gloves.

  • @jujuseducer6055
    @jujuseducer60554 жыл бұрын

    Yep there are a load of OLDER thinkpads out there! After watching one of your earlier videos and being fascinated by the older types with the original keyboard,i managed to source 2 x t60 units with 2 spare batterries,spare ram cards,spare keyboards,chargers etc for $150 Au. The condition of the units,IMMACULANT! And being a science proff at one of our Au universities,the seller was outstanding in all respects. Units run Xubuntu and thats awesome for us.Now i am after an x201t,as that is the only other thinkpad that interests me.Thanks for all your videos they HELPED A LOT.By the way we use all systems,Chromebook, Android etc,no one device is a daily driver and the thinkpads we purchased,are because in our opinions the best looking,useful and serviceable pc EVERY MADE.! Have a great day,bye.

  • @neerajbg
    @neerajbg4 жыл бұрын

    Great video. Your presentation is awesome, address every single piece of information. I am quite happy with my L 440 and no plans for a upgrade to higher series rather I prefer to have 440 p. It's just great device.

  • @Mr_L1n4x
    @Mr_L1n4x4 жыл бұрын

    I think I wrote this in other of your videos but thanks to you I decided to get a t430 and I couldn't be happier with that, it has been a very good and reliable laptop for my university with the bonus of droping windows and installing linux mint, sure I also have an Acer aspire that's more modern but I rarley use it other than just play some videogames and be my "desktop laptop" LOL

  • @astral2048

    @astral2048

    4 жыл бұрын

    I have a T430 and just recently upgraded the screen to 900p and the processor to a quad-core i7. On Kubuntu, it easily runs Wii and PS2 games. Cool thing is I got this machine for less than $150 (in my country).

  • @itsallasimulationman
    @itsallasimulationman4 жыл бұрын

    Great video. Lots to look at, and very useful information. Subscribed! Best of luck with your channel, sir.

  • @SebisRandomTech

    @SebisRandomTech

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed the video!

  • @hafizhnabawi1707
    @hafizhnabawi17074 жыл бұрын

    I got the X230 lsst year, works great after 3 months until 2020. Hope can get another one for my home laptop use

  • @NotColaTai
    @NotColaTai2 ай бұрын

    Four years ago dam time flys

  • @rii-kun3437
    @rii-kun34373 жыл бұрын

    Just got my T430 last week, I need a laptop for my school work and I'm lucky enough to find a unit with an Nvidia NVS 5400 and I'm very happy with it

  • @ComputersHowtos
    @ComputersHowtos4 жыл бұрын

    I have my T440p with i5 16GB and SSD, upgraded to FHD screen, T450 touchpad and backlit keyboard. I love it! Linux Mint or KDE neon runs just great on that. CPU is also upgradeable, but I don't really need a faster one. Also had the T430 before. Liked it maybe better than the T440P, so also very good choice. Thanks for the video, keep it up.

  • @macandpciscool6507
    @macandpciscool65074 жыл бұрын

    Loving the jointed rail track at the beginning :P

  • @berserker9689
    @berserker96892 жыл бұрын

    The B-roll footage are always so good aesthetically.

  • @karenwang313
    @karenwang3134 жыл бұрын

    I bought a 3rd gen X1Carbon for about $240 a couple months ago and it's been amazing for me. It has its flaws, like the soldered ram and limited IO, but the size and portability make it a godsend to people on the go alot.

  • @SebisRandomTech

    @SebisRandomTech

    4 жыл бұрын

    Does it have the 1440p IPS screen?

  • @karenwang313

    @karenwang313

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@SebisRandomTech Nah, it has a 1080p TN panel. It's not very great, but it gets the job done for now. I had no idea it could do 1440p, thats definitely going to be something to upgrade to in the future.

  • @k.b.tidwell
    @k.b.tidwell3 жыл бұрын

    Some part of me deep down expects there to be some sort of laptop backlash once the pandemic is under control. By that I mean that there will be a percentage of users who: 1) Go back to an office job not needing that extra laptop anymore so they sell it. 2) Likewise for companies replacing a whole bunch of fleet laptops because of crazy excessive wear. 3) People who had to settle for whatever laptop they could lay their hands on in the mad rush to equip their school age children, replacing those with better stuff at start of next school year, birthdays, Christmas, Etc. Of course, a part of me also knows that the moment I decide to shop for bargains in earnest, all of these sorts of deals will vaporize for no good reason.

  • @SebisRandomTech

    @SebisRandomTech

    3 жыл бұрын

    It’ll be easy to purchase them but hard to sell them. Unless another pandemic happens and you stockpile the laptops until then! :P

  • @dooovde
    @dooovde4 жыл бұрын

    Great video, thanks for the upload. Liked the style too...thought I was watchin Gummo at the start 😛 One point you forgot to mention, and a lot of reviewers forget to mention, is that the sound from the T430 is far superior to anything laptop you buy today. Manufacturers seriously compromised sound quality to shed a few millimetres.

  • @MrSamadolfo
    @MrSamadolfo4 жыл бұрын

    😎 Cool, thanks for the updated revisited review, good cheat sheet, and yeah just Keep It Old School 😃👍

  • @ndhikaatube
    @ndhikaatube2 жыл бұрын

    the overall camerawork and shot directions feels like watching natgeo for thinkpads

  • @trenchcoatgaming2893
    @trenchcoatgaming28933 жыл бұрын

    Thinkpads are wonderful devices, the ports, expansion practical design along with unlimited mods to make them even more future proof sets them apart from other devices, the fact that my t420s from 2011 is 100 times better than a macbook from a year ago is rlly shocking. Not only can I get 8 hours of battery on a regular day, I can easily fix it if something goes wrong, and the performance on the i7 is more than enough for most of my tasks. The keyboard is too good and its just such a good laptop. I honestly cant see a world without pre 2013 thinkpads.

  • @notelijahking8038
    @notelijahking80383 жыл бұрын

    Hey Sebi! Another good video as always. Since I’m entering college soon, I’m outgrowing my W530. My choice ended up being the T470 OR an X280, depending on how the eBay bids end up.

  • @SebisRandomTech

    @SebisRandomTech

    3 жыл бұрын

    How about a P series machine, such as the P50/51/52?

  • @abvmoose87
    @abvmoose874 жыл бұрын

    Good job on this video, well done sir!

  • @SPDATA1
    @SPDATA14 жыл бұрын

    I agree... I worked a lot with Lenovo at my job as a Technician - Field Service.

  • @jakejakeboom
    @jakejakeboom2 жыл бұрын

    Love my T420. It's now the "shop PC" In my electronics lab, so mostly just for pulling up schematics and documentation. Hurts to not have that keyboard any longer, now that I'm using a T480s, but I think I can get another 5-10 years out of it in this role.

  • @annihilatorg
    @annihilatorg4 жыл бұрын

    thank you for bringing the thinkmods expresscard to nvme adapter to light. That's an incredibly useful little piece of kit

  • @SebisRandomTech

    @SebisRandomTech

    4 жыл бұрын

    No problem! I look forward to getting one of those for myself!

  • @heltoupee
    @heltoupee4 жыл бұрын

    Been a big ThinkPad fan for awhile now. The T520 was the first machine I requisitioned when I started managing infrastructure for my employer. Probably went through 200+ of them. Built like tanks (with an ugly display). My favorite Thinkpad (and I know I'm probably in the minority here) was the Thinkpad Yoga S1. These were also a model I req'd for the entire company, and a sister company I worked for. My wife uses one, and I just got a couple for my 2 kids for $200 per off eBay. They're light-years ahead of what the school requires and has us buy (chromebooks). Nice review!

  • @SebisRandomTech

    @SebisRandomTech

    4 жыл бұрын

    The great thing about the T420/430 and their 15” counterparts is that it is now possible to modify them to handle better displays. I’m about to do this with my T430 and I couldn’t be happier!

  • @Moonswirly
    @Moonswirly4 жыл бұрын

    I ordered a T440p the other night for $160 at your recommendation, pretty excited to get into ThinkPad and it's my first laptop in many years since an old Dell Latitude running XP I had as a kid. Probably going to wait until lockdowns are over to seriously get into upgrading it though - the bad screen won't bother me too much for now considering it's going to be a machine to plug my drawing monitor into.

  • @Moonswirly

    @Moonswirly

    4 жыл бұрын

    I got it the other night 4 days early and I'm loving it even just as is! I ordered a 2.5" caddy for the disk drive bay and a 1tb HDD since the SSD is kind of anemic.

  • @Salami9898
    @Salami98984 жыл бұрын

    Another point for older thinkpads in some countries is that they are a lot less likely to be stoles than newer ones

  • @SebisRandomTech

    @SebisRandomTech

    4 жыл бұрын

    Even in America. Have left one of my ThinkPads out many times without anyone touching it.

  • @peterd2590
    @peterd25904 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video. Thanks for the info!

  • @TekNikIn
    @TekNikIn4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much. Very detail video. 😊👍

  • @dnenis3162
    @dnenis31623 ай бұрын

    Just bought a t480 yesterday for 150€ very good condition, new battery, 16gb ram and 500gb storage. Couldnt be happier

  • @a01A01
    @a01A012 жыл бұрын

    hi am from Iraq Baghdad man i like your work such a good content you put out there ...thnx for your really amazing work ,

  • @ghines65
    @ghines654 жыл бұрын

    I have been working helpdesk now for 13 years, starting to use Lenovo products in late 2007. I have to say they are pretty tough and just great laptops in general. I do prefer the T440p's very much. Today I am still using my T450s with 12 gb ram and a 500gb ssd. Have the dock as well. I have lots of older Lenovo's at home. going back to the T/R61's. Solid design on the most part. The X series not a fan of so much, as the right front corners break the frame(has someone figure out a fix for this besides replacing frame?). The power port tab breaks, but found a hot glue trick to fix that. Anyway, I could talk about them for hours, thanks for the video, brought back lots of memories on these. Take care.

  • @internetcitizen7673
    @internetcitizen76734 жыл бұрын

    Great video! I have an X240 and love it. I only use my laptop for a couple hours a day as a pose to my workstation which is why I went for the smaller form factor.

  • @mrjeremydizon
    @mrjeremydizon Жыл бұрын

    Just bought a P50 with Xeon E3 1505M with 32GB RAM and two SSDs (1TB, 512GB) and a touchscreen for $230USD. Upgrading from a TN panel T460, this thing is huge and a beast in performance

  • @nunoromao6875
    @nunoromao68754 жыл бұрын

    You should get a P50, I bought one with 40GB DDR4 RAM and use it for Digital Forensic work, and I can say I do not regret it! I bought a second one with 24GB RAM to take it to where I need it.

  • @mariabutler3356

    @mariabutler3356

    4 жыл бұрын

    Better take your charger everywhere you go :p or is battery life not that bad? I have a W530 and I can get 3 hours max

  • @polromeu
    @polromeu3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks to your video today I've founded an offer with an X1 from 2020 october, almost new, for 680€ when it costs +1.500€. Tomorrow I'll gonna take a look and your video will help me a lot for that ckecking.

  • @voodooblue6162
    @voodooblue61624 жыл бұрын

    I have E420 and it has been 8 years now since I bought it. Would you recommend keeping it and upgrading the parts or getting a new one?

  • @lintangkusumandaru7534
    @lintangkusumandaru75343 жыл бұрын

    Dude, you deserve more subs.

  • @stefanoocchionero7760
    @stefanoocchionero77604 жыл бұрын

    I wanted a media laptop to use at home for simple tasks (like browsing, writing and reading) because I was using always my good laptop that I use for work. Some months ago after some reserch bought a T440p (150€) and these upgrades :512GB M2 sata ssd MLC (90€) 16GB RAM 2133 Hz (80€) 2TB SSHD (70€) Docking station (15€) caddy for third hard disk (5€). I chose this model because I wanted the most recent with highest upgradability and i'm glad Sebi is the same opinion. The next upgrades will be the Lcd panel (40€) and the CPU (around 100€) but for now i'd stay, already spent too much :)

  • @dustojnikhummer
    @dustojnikhummer3 жыл бұрын

    Just 1vyrained my X230, next week USB-C charging. Also, those indicator LEDs are a great help when hackintoshing them, for example when troubleshooting Sleep.

  • @EvilTurkeySlices
    @EvilTurkeySlices11 ай бұрын

    How possible is it to upgrade the display in a t530 to a 1080p IPS panel? the T530 I just got has a line in the screen and I want to know if I can upgrade it or if I should just buy a working original display for it. I also plan to put in an i7-3630qm from an old Toshiba I have with a destroyed case (horrible thermals too) I will use it for light gaming and general on the go use alongside my 2012 MacBook Pro 15 inch. While it is nice and has faster graphics it is a decent bit heavier and is limited on ports. It also is limited in battery life as the battery is non swapable. Another advantage is the ability to easily add a Blu-ray drive to watch them on the go.

  • @KRAFTWERK2K6
    @KRAFTWERK2K63 жыл бұрын

    T420 with i7 quadcore, built in webcam, 1600x900 Display, at least 8GB of RAM, new batter, BD-drive and current Linux Mint Desktop system installed on a SSD. Perfect daily runner. You don't need more than that for your every day tasks. Just make sure you better get a version with Intel graphics since the Nvidia Optimus tends to overhead the system a little too much. Unless you wanna play some games on it and have a laptop fan cooling pad underneath.

  • @thecasualfront7432
    @thecasualfront74323 жыл бұрын

    i just bought a t430 with 16gb RAM, i5, duel SSD's (250 & 500gb), spare battery & dock, Win 10 with office, with backlit keyboard in near mint condition for £250 (around $300). very happy, thank you for all your advice Sebi. love the channel. only thing is the hinges are a little floppy, any chance of a hinge replacement video? almost forgot... *replying from my thinkpad*

  • @salsabilnizhum446

    @salsabilnizhum446

    3 жыл бұрын

    I wanna buy T440s. is it good for value?

  • @SebisRandomTech

    @SebisRandomTech

    3 жыл бұрын

    I might be doing that with my T430 soon, stay tuned to find out! :)

  • @deadeviltimothy666
    @deadeviltimothy6664 жыл бұрын

    Still using T530 since it came out ... and a non-working T61p. (T530) Replace all drives to SSDs and still running great in 2020. Planning to mod it with classic keyboard and CPU soon.

  • @loumullen614
    @loumullen6144 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely agree with the choices for cheap alternatives here with the models selected, though I choose Toshiba Tecra R950 and HP Pro 4540s having both , the T440 is every bit as good for value if I was considering a 3rd.

  • @davidsummers6700
    @davidsummers6700 Жыл бұрын

    I have a max spec W520 and love it.

  • @cee128d
    @cee128d4 жыл бұрын

    I'm using a T530 with a backlit keyboard at the moment and love it. I would rather have the newer style backlit keyboard than the non backlit classic one because I use it in a lot of low light conditions and find the backlight preferable to the Thinklight. I do need to find a reasonably priced older Thinkpad with a full keyboard with dedicated num keys like a W540 for a friend.

  • @SebisRandomTech

    @SebisRandomTech

    4 жыл бұрын

    I always liked the ThinkLight better because if you need to illuminate more than just the keyboard (such as a sheet of paper or a book), it was a convenient reading light to have. I can remember a class I had last semester where the professor would turn all of the lights off while presenting the lesson (powerpoint), and I could use my ThinkLight to not only type up notes, but also write down some of the symbols and formulas that can’t be easily typed on a computer. I think the **30 ThinkPads did things best by offering both, so you could use whichever one you preferred. For finding a used ThinkPad with the dedicated numeric keypad, something like the T540 or T540p would probably be available for cheaper than the W540, unless your friend needs the extra power of a W series machine.

  • @cee128d

    @cee128d

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@SebisRandomTech Thanks. I'll look into those. As for the Thinklight it does have it's place and I'm glad I have the option of either.

  • @memoryfoam2285
    @memoryfoam22853 жыл бұрын

    My daily driver for college work is still a T430 I bought back in 2018 for $350ish. I didn't spec it perfectly but its lasted well. Glad I got it.

  • @nerd2544

    @nerd2544

    3 жыл бұрын

    cool

  • @plangephace
    @plangephace4 жыл бұрын

    My daily is a T530, circa 2013. Bought it at an employee sale for $300. No problems during the 5 years that I've owned it. Dual Booting between Debian 10/Windows 10. Once thing I can recommend, if you don't do any heavy graphics, disable the Discreet Video in Bios -it burns through battery life. I mostly use my laptop for SSH remote admin, Open Office, and streaming content from my HTPC. For an extra $100, I picked up a SSD and maxed out the RAM from Amazon. Even when I am too lazy to boot into Windows 10, I can run it in Vmware in Linux with no problems. Not bad for 7 yr old laptop.

  • @aviatorsdream4686
    @aviatorsdream46864 жыл бұрын

    came for the thinkpads, stayed for the steinway.

  • @tadejsadar7033
    @tadejsadar70334 жыл бұрын

    I agree with you. Trackpoint is essential feature for me. That is why I only use Thinkpads. I dont use trackpads at all. I am so used to trackpoint, i dont even need mouse. Too bad that X1 gen5 i have, has somewhat not that responsive trackpoint.

  • @ryanr9852
    @ryanr98523 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video thanks! Where can one find those custom adapter boards for the T420 or T430 you reference at 15:16? Have you used any with and updated your screen? Thanks

  • @SebisRandomTech

    @SebisRandomTech

    3 жыл бұрын

    Typing this from my upgraded FHD T430! You can find them on eBay, which is what I did.

  • @csmith9525
    @csmith95253 ай бұрын

    Thank you very much for your videos. I have been a strong fan of the Lenovo Thinkpad line after seeing how rough my wife was on her T420 and it kept working. Ever since then, I have purchased used Thinkpads for my family and friends. The performance of the Thinkpad's improves after maximizing the memory and using a SSD drive. My daily driver is a T430. My question for you is can the T420 accept 16gig of memory. The literature I have seen says the T420 max is 8gig of memory. Thank you and keep up the excellent work!

  • @AliZainOnline
    @AliZainOnline4 жыл бұрын

    I still found T430 is most reliable then most of the machines. Mine is upgraded with 12 GB RAM FullHD 1080 display and 256 GB SSD and believe me it rocks.

  • @ukasznoganski2211

    @ukasznoganski2211

    4 жыл бұрын

    how did you upgradet the display to FullHD? From which model you replaced it?

  • @kbbkirbymybeloved
    @kbbkirbymybeloved Жыл бұрын

    this video really got me into the whole ThinkPad thing, I got my x260 as my first laptop, and now I use an x230 for school, I might be looking forward to doing some mods to my current laptops or buying older ThinkPads out of pure curosity. Though knowing myself and the fact I live in the Philippines , this will soon become a phase of mine :P good video though!

  • @Juuhazan_

    @Juuhazan_

    Жыл бұрын

    Interesting. The guy I bought my X230 from was switching to an X260. Why'd you switch though?

  • @kbbkirbymybeloved

    @kbbkirbymybeloved

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Juuhazan_ I didn't say I switched, I just use the x230 for school while I use my x260 as my Windows and Stepmania machine. I just find the x230 enjoyable as a productivity device

  • @chatbud
    @chatbud4 жыл бұрын

    Great video! T430 user here.

  • @hadarie1
    @hadarie14 жыл бұрын

    Hey Sebi, great video as usual. What do you think about the L series? In particular the L380/390 models (Yoga or not). It seems the L series in kinda overlooked. Would you recommend them?

  • @SebisRandomTech

    @SebisRandomTech

    4 жыл бұрын

    The newer ones are definitely more worthwhile than older ones (the first few generations of L series ThinkPads were junk), but I would still try to get a T or X series model unless it’s substantially more expensive.

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