I love how they implemented a hard mode in this game. They even gave it a creative name, chikorita.

@asagothe_fander

Жыл бұрын

THATS WHAT IM SAYING

@jasonryan5572

Жыл бұрын

What about whitney can cyndyquil or totodile learn reflect via level up i didn't think so but chikorita can

@theserpent8667

Жыл бұрын

​@@jasonryan5572Geodude and Machop are much better options.

@jasonryan5572

Жыл бұрын

@@theserpent8667 it can still Learn reflect

@captianbacon

Жыл бұрын

You mean easy mode. It's just the best starter cause it's unkillable to every major fight besides the fist 2 gyms.

We definitely need a regional form of Chikorita to make it more useful.

@donovanlocust1106

Жыл бұрын

For its final evo?

@BaconNuke

Жыл бұрын

We just need a game where Chikorita at least isn't weak to the first two gyms so it can at least get the ball rolling lol

@samyakratnabajracharya9400

Жыл бұрын

We need a MITSURI for the Sakura that chikoita is

@Treeckoboi1

Жыл бұрын

​@@BaconNukeyes

@localcookingutensil

Жыл бұрын

Omg a Legends game with Chikorita would be amazing! Then it could get the typing I think would suit it better (mostly because of New Pokemon Snap), Grass Fairy (or something more different)

My thicc boi getting the love he deserves. Feraligatr is easily one of the coolest starters and my first. I remember my Feraligatr moveset were, Ice Punch, Waterfall, Crunch and Dragon Claw, it was a beast.

@itssdonnie8280

10 ай бұрын

Mines still have the move... surf,crunch,ice fang and rock smash I got too much coverage on like almost 2/3 of every Pokemon I encounter

@Tree511

10 ай бұрын

frrrr

@Clayinator

5 ай бұрын

It easily is my favorite Gen 2 starter of how unique and cool the design was still wish they added a Water/Dragon typing onto Feraligatr but even then one of the best Gen 2 Pokemon.

Totodile's rage is OP in Gen 2, you can breeze through the first 3 gyms with that move alone.

@itssdonnie8280

10 ай бұрын

I remember be like 4 or 5 solo every one with rage especially the rocket grunts

As a Chikorita fan, it upsets me Gamefreak did it so dirty

@waterierStone

Жыл бұрын

It's about as useless as charmander in gen 1, but Charizard looks like a dragon, so it slipped by.

@joseguadalupemartineztorre9702

Жыл бұрын

They should've made Meganium Grass/Fairy. Make it even more difficult to use and more fulfilling when you win

@stevethecameraman2592

Жыл бұрын

@@joseguadalupemartineztorre9702yeah but back then there was no fairy

@Olivertheolive

Жыл бұрын

NEW FORMS Fayrita, Blossoleaf, and majiceum

@DukeDarkshadow

Жыл бұрын

You make it seem like it was on purpose. When creating the Gen 2 gyms, Gamefreak obviously picked 8 Pokemon types that weren't used for gyms in Gen 1. And unfortunately for Chikorita, the Water, Rock, and Ground types were already used for gyms in Gen 1. Granted I will admit, they didn't have to make it so the first two gyms were strong against Chikorita but I'm sure they not only did it for a difficulty spike like they did with Charmander but also because the Flying and Bug types are both relatively easy types to battle against early in the game. They're not gonna start a game with a Ghost, Dragon, or Ice gym.

Me personally i agree. I think we need more shorts like this

@demafexd_6207

Жыл бұрын

To update old videos

@thatoneaxolotlguy9969

Жыл бұрын

Totodile is still better still better then cyndaquil

@AboodStudios

Жыл бұрын

@@thatoneaxolotlguy9969 yea

@thatoneaxolotlguy9969

Жыл бұрын

@@AboodStudios ok i will (somehow) go off topic but nice pfp man, just relized that

@MandJTV

Жыл бұрын

more on the way!

Also with totodile, you get ice fang at about the same level that it evolves into croconaw, so it becomes great against Bugsy

I always like having the grass starters because they usually have status moves which make catching pokemon early on a breeze.

Counter argument: Chikorita is adorable every stage and becomes an adorable dinosaur flower that deserves hugs.

@0-0-0freedartmonkey9

Жыл бұрын

The johto reigon is harsh and cruel to grass type pokemon but i agree

@junihitomiya3182

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely 💯

@jawad.p

Жыл бұрын

counter point: all the johto starters are mid

@darklordofsword

Жыл бұрын

​@0-0-0freedartmonkey9 counterpoint; ALL regions are cruel to Grass starters, some are just less-so.

@Shi3ld18-og2wr

Жыл бұрын

Yes yes he does

Using cyndaquil in Gold was so fun

@Erkalan20

11 ай бұрын

Especially when Typlosion can learn Thunderpunch, but in Gen 4 had access to Solarbeam, Eruption, and Lava Plume.

@foodmr2022

11 ай бұрын

Good times yeah gen 2 thunderpunch helped be allot

@DubCmusicTV

11 ай бұрын

Because no real fire option with only Growlithe and Magmar

@owsl2468

11 ай бұрын

Yeah I remember sweeping the game with Typhlosion back in my Heart Gold play through, and now it’s great to see Eruption Typhlosion (not hisuin form) back in Scarlet and Violet dominating comp

@ATypicalCommenter

11 ай бұрын

Man memories fr

Part of Feraligatr's coverage moves is Dragon Claw from the Goldenrod Department Store Sunday Lotto. Also Feraligatr is my favorite Pokémon.

i like cyndaquil because i kinda created a bond with it during legends arceus, also i want to use the red gyarados without overlap.

The editor deserves a good salary

@UlisseAyulePkmnYGO

8 ай бұрын

Almost. Near the end, there is "it's movepool", where it should be "its movepool". 😇

His experience from his no catching Pokemon run in the Gen 4 Johto games comes in clutch for this!

@fadhilmulyono9230

Жыл бұрын

well at the cost of using a Magcargo, a worse Fire type than Typhlosion due to its slow speed, final BST of 430, and does not evolve until level 38

@megariderfire1994

11 ай бұрын

"Whoever decided that Slugma, this very weak Pokemon, shouldn't evolve until level 38 deserves to have to use a Slugma on a playthrough team." - MandJTV, April 4th 2020

@spindash64

11 ай бұрын

@@megariderfire1994 Give Magcargo Desolate Land, you cowards!

@fadhilmulyono9230

11 ай бұрын

@@spindash64 Well the rant is because Slugma got outsped and OHKOed by a Magnemite who landed a non-crit-neutral Thunderbolt immediately on turn 1

The thing is Gyarados *also* benefited from the split and you get a shiny one anyway. I personally think Cyndaquil is the best option across all games.

@RainbowGod666

Жыл бұрын

Red long water snek that praises khorne is breddy gud :DDD Shame he never got that fabled dragon typing, like at that point make a megakingdra you jarate producers

@MattGraves01

11 ай бұрын

Cyndaquil is not very good for Lance and post game. Like Bulbasaur, it suffers from having a good advantage at the start but struggles later on. You'll end up having to rely on other pokemon to help Cyndaquil. Totodile does not have that problem. I can go through the whole game with just Totodile being my battler.

@gogoof1791

11 ай бұрын

@@MattGraves01while true for both, I think it’s unfair, unless you’re doing a solo challenge, you should be able to have coverage for both of their weaknesses by that point, but I agree that Totodile is better then cyndaquil

@hindubanodhruvnahi779

11 ай бұрын

Its late game

@sora654able1

11 ай бұрын

@@MattGraves01 ...Thing is, Typhlosion's move pool is WIDELY diverse, and by the time you are in the Kanto region, your team is going to be diverse enough that your starter choice doesn't matter, though Kanto is also where Chikorita GREATLY shines for quite a bit of Kanto. Given how these games are designed, Totodile is the balanced option, being moderate in both regions. Not super excelling but not super hindered either based on types alone, excluding movepools. Cyndaquil is great in johto and Chikorita is great in Kanto.

Feraligatr finally getting the love it deserved

@itssdonnie8280

10 ай бұрын

Long overdue

Even if you pick Chikorita, just get a Dunsparce in Dark Cave; its Rage attack is very good against the first gym, and you can build a team from there.

@Treeckoboi1

Жыл бұрын

Or get rockey the Onix.

@fish-on-the-internet

11 ай бұрын

also dunsparce are objectively the best pokemon

@flyingoctopus4304

11 ай бұрын

You can get a Geodude super early who rolls over both Falkner and Bugsy anyway.

@garg4531

3 ай бұрын

I actually got to use a Dunsparce and was surprised by how good it was But you say “just get a Dunsparce” like it’s easy and doesn’t have a ridiculously low encounter rate As the other comments say getting a geodude or onix is much easier, and will help a lot against the first three or four gyms, becoming a solid addition to the team instead of just a placeholder

@Vexnatos

2 ай бұрын

or get a Geodude

Just realized, you should totally make a video on the new DLC Pokémon leaked. Also, destroying the gym leaders with Typholosion is just class. 🎉

Finaly totodile is getting recognized

Dont forget you also get the move rage which just makes the normal type gym trivial. Both the fire and grass starters have trouble in this gym which to me is a big reason why i always go water type.

Poor Chikorita, we still love you for it's adorableness 😂

@jasonryan5572

Жыл бұрын

And it can learn reflect

@thatoneaxolotlguy9969

Жыл бұрын

Yea, meganium is my 7th favourite mon and my 4th favourite starter

@Treeckoboi1

Жыл бұрын

Yes we do.

Yes, some love for Feraligatr

@itssdonnie8280

10 ай бұрын

Greatest pokemon ever I love to see it

@albantobionso3772

9 ай бұрын

It literally can learn water type moves earth type and ice plus dark moves it can let u deal with 90%of fight

@P_G_G

7 ай бұрын

Sorry guys Typhlosion is the legend!! 💯❤🔥

Yeah, Feraligtr carried me all throughout the game. The only pokemon i leveled and used to mow down anything and everything

While Totodile is a lot better, Gyarados getting MASSIVE buffs alongside being a GUARANTEED encounter, makes Cyndaquil the better option.

@A-Zofficial1

2 ай бұрын

Nope did 2 playthroughs with cyndaquil hes move pull is underwhelming not good as back in gen2 so totodile is far greater option and if you are playing heartgold you have lot of fire options love typhlosion but gen4 moveset and diversity is trash

You are completely right. However I never pick which one is best, but my favorite which means Chikorita I will always pick you

I used Feraligatr in Silver (Ds Eshop version because I couldn't find Soulsilver in stores) and he did very well

As a Totodile fan (it’s the first mon I ever used), I’m glad he got better

This is the best video I've seen Katie edit yet! Good job to the both of you!

The same thing can also be said for Red Gyarados. Nerfed in Gen 2 with that high attack stat and special water move typing. Gen 4 - Waterfall now a physical attack ❤ back on form as it should have been.

@triforceofcourage100

11 ай бұрын

Fun fact because of how shiny pokemon were programmed in Gen 2 they could never have perfect stats. The red gyarados of gen 3 and onward are superior in every conceivable way

@garg4531

3 ай бұрын

Gen 2 definitely did Gyarados dirty by giving it a high special defense (what good is that) and a low special attack (that low sp stat being a big part of why I never saw the appeal of it) Definitely good that they finally let it make good use of is monstrous physical

But Chikorita is the cutest. Easily my favourite

@jeffreygao3956

9 ай бұрын

I prefer more tough looking starters.

I think it should also be said that Typhlosion is one of very few fire types in Johto.

@albertonishiyama1980

Жыл бұрын

This is less of a problem than with Kanto's fire starter. In Kanto you dont find much useful fire types untill too late, and most of the fights where fire is good have protection against other types (like Erika's team being more than half grass/poison). Johto is way easier to play around, since you probably have a Flying type for bugsy and when Ice and Steel comes it's already too late in the game and you can have lots of counters from other places.

@Treeckoboi1

Жыл бұрын

*laughs in houndoom*

@DukeDarkshadow

Жыл бұрын

​@@Treeckoboi1Except that Houndoom isn't even available in Johto in GSC. You can only find it in Kanto in the post-game. And in HGSS, you can only find it in the Safari Zone. And not only is the player more than halfway through the story by that point, but it's also a massive chore just even finding one.

@Treeckoboi1

Жыл бұрын

@@DukeDarkshadow *laughs in I found one on Mt mortar*

@SergE1020

Жыл бұрын

@@Treeckoboi1 How? It’s literally not there

This editing is so smooth=3 Cheers to the editor. I always choose cyndaquil. There are plenty of grass and water types, but fire types can be a bit tricky to get early=)

Completely agree. Very cogent analysis.

@thatoneaxolotlguy9969

Жыл бұрын

I agree with his take on hgss but totodile is still better at gold, silver and crystal

my boy totodile got the crown again

In my first play through of Crystal, I picked chikorita cuz it looked cute.

Great presentation man. Good use of the IP sound effects.

*Eryzio flashbacks* man…I miss him

@kingdoingstuff

Жыл бұрын

I don't And htf are u getting flashback from him bc of this video

@comics4556

11 ай бұрын

@@kingdoingstuffmaybe it’s the editing? Eryizo edits go crazy tbh

Mikey, we need more shorts Contant I love the channel and I’m gonna ask again. Can you make a video giving each character of your KZread channel a Pokémon team please

Totodile's Rage carries GSC early game, it gets Ice Punch in Goldenrod City and Surf in Ecruteak City. I think both Totodile and Cyndaquil (who can learn Thunderpunch as a Typhlosion though I often use Ampharos as my Electric Fire user) are equally good. Chikorita is for the harder playthrough only (and that's sad).

The chickorita line is my favorite starter line. I grew up with Jurrasic park and seeing my boi chickorita turn into a big giant plant eating dino boi is too good.

For Gen 4, I'd still give it to Cyndaquil. You get access to Fire Blast (or Flamethrower if you want to grind) before you fight the third gym leader. For Totodile, you don't get access to Aqua Tail or Waterfall into you near the Elite Four. Also, Lapras is an option you can catch for Water/Ice coverage.

@yorecf9641

11 ай бұрын

Don’t forget about Gyarados. It’s Feraligatr but better in almost every way.

@ultimatevtgb7551

8 ай бұрын

Typhlosion's movepool is dry in gen 4, it's a one trick pony excelling at spamming fast powerful STAB attacks like Fire Blast or Eruption. Although its offensive options are quite diverse, its Attack stat is too mediocre to make good use of most available coverage attacks, hindering its versatility. Feraligatr suffers no such thing, there is no limit to its offensive versatility. Its great 105 Attack makes good use of all the best attacks it can learn: Aqua Tail/Waterfall, Ice Fang, Crunch, Superpower/Low Kick, Earthquake, etc. and for the cherry on top, it can learn Sword Dance to sweep a whole time, its good bulk and typing letting it set up with little chance of dying. I'm going to be honest with you, the main story Johto adventure is so piss easy, what I care about is how my team will handle the Kanto post-game, so even though it takes longer for Feraligatr to reach its full potential in the main story, you absolutely reap the rewards for your patience as Faraligatr plows through the Kanto post-game.

Also Typhlosion in gen 2 can deal with water types with the thunder punch TM in Celadon's deparment store, an special move in gen 2, but it becomes phisical and a post game tutor move

always goated content 🙏🏻 inspired me to start my shorts 🥹

You know what is the best starter for every region your favorite it doesn't matter if your favorite is weak or strong as long as you enjoy your adventure with them. That's what matters.

@Isaiah_WRLD999

4 ай бұрын

Yeah your definitely right and the Pokemon you pick for your team

Typhlosion has huge coverage. Flamethrower, earthquake, return, thunderpunch, he gets massive coverage.

This video makes me happy, thank you Mikey

Totadile is my favourite Pokemon in the entire series so i picked him in every playthrough, named him Chompy in my latest playthrough

HGSS Feraligatr can easily solo the game with Waterfall, ice fang/punch, crunch, & earthquake. That hits 11 types super effectively & nothing resists it. I’d say give it dragon dance but it’s an egg move which you can’t really get since it’s your starter unless you plan ahead

This is the Totodile line love that I am excited to see.

on my first playthrough of heartgold, i solo'd the entire game with an unevolved totodile

Feraligatr can learn dragon dance. Truly a monster

Totodile the goat, just spam ice fang throughout the playthrough 😂😂😂

I started my pokemon journey with a fire starter in red and blue and stuck with fire starters ever since then. Yes they are more difficult to level and may not be everyone's go to but I find the end rewards so much more satisfying than any other starter type

As a Totodile fan (And irl Alligator simp) I'm overjoyed to see him get so much love. Love my little gator~

My boy Feraligatr finally gets some recognition! I'm normally biased towards the fire starters, but this is the exception, since I adore crocs. I never really played the GB Color games, but I have played Heartgold, and Feraligatr DOMINATED the playthrough.

Thanks for showing us the tutor moves, most of them being from the battle frontier, inaccessable in a main playyhrough

I love chikorita and restarted my elite 4 feraligatr run because I wanted to play with chikorita instead plus it is fun to play as the underdog. And I love the design of chikorita all 3 stages

It’s good to see that someone knows these facts, and also good to see that Chikorita does get love by some people in the comments. It always feels like Cyndaquil gets the Charmander treatment (which honestly might as well be renamed to the fire-starter treatment for Gens 1-5)

I usually go with the fire starters because fire types are often hard to find and even harder to find the ones I actually like. Or a water starter if I can get Arcanine or something similar.

Would love to see a starter ranking video going through what's best in their respective games and how they compare against all the other starters, if not already done.

until you remember the red garydos

The problem with Feraligatr in the remakes is that Magikarp are everywhere and Gyarados is better in literally every way. Similar coverage early on but Gyarados has a great secondary typing, access to Dragon Dance by level up, and Intimidate. There's lots of other water-type competition later too like Starmie, Kingler, and Tentacruel. Typhlosion brings good offenses with a largely unique typing and isn't nearly as quickly or heavily outclassed as Feraligatr (Arcanine is there, but that's exclusive to Heartgold).

I've seen a nuzlock with Chikorita and that thing is a monster. Not only it with stood super effective moves but ends up killing the opponent pokemon. And the three really tried to disowned it but in the end it made it through the first part and the second part then finally facing Red. So Chikorita earned that love

I loved the Pokémon Mystery Dungeon sounds throughout

I still made Totadile work in gen 2. Ice Punch being sold as a Tm was extremely helpful.

I know chikoritas hard mode, but I wound up getting a shiny one while sr'ing the starters in hg and I actually had the easiest time with whitney. maybe my quilava just sucked as a kid, but my shiny bayleef Basil steamrolled miltank by setting up a reflect to tank the rollout and hitting razor leaf crits. I gained a lot of respect for the little grass dino

I remember actually picking Chikorita when I first played Gold. I hadn't looked up anything about it or the game. I just thought it was nice, and it does have a good support movepool. If I got the gen 4 version, I'd definitely pick Totodile.

Feraligatr may have higher physical attack than special attack, but its special attack is good enough to make use of Surf and Ice Punch in Gen II, and its physical attack is good enough to get utility out of non-STAB Dig. You can also get a Totodile with AncientPower if you're willing to level a male Corsola up to 43 and breed it with a female in the Totodile line. Definitely don't sleep on Totodile in a Gen II playthrough if you value utility.

Finally, the love for my little blue gator. Totodile was my first starter and SoulSilver was my first Pokémon game. Really happy I didn’t choose wrong all those years ago. I was 5 when I first got it, I’m now 19 and finished everything in that game and my final team was Feraligatr Crobat Rapidash Exeggutor Tyrannitar and Dragonite

Feraligatr carried me to my first ever indigo plateau win back in HG! That’s why it’s my favorite Pokémon to this day!

YAY its a new short :)

When I was a kid I’d always start with charmander because you can just get a Lapras, starmie, or a poliwrath for a water type and bellsprout or gloom for grass. I usually don’t get a starter at all because you don’t need one.

You don’t get a physical water move until lvl 50 with aqua tail. Typhlosion is the best starter for gen 2 and 4 and it’s not even close. He’s also the only starter to have positive matchups with the gyms with his stab typing.

Dragon Claw is also a TM that you can win at the Goldenrod Department Store that Feraligtr is now compatible with giving you at least one way for a fully evolved Pokémon to do Super Effective Damage on Clair’s Kingdra which no other Pokémon can do…

Will patiently wait for the day we get a Grass/Dragon Meganium form. Is it a good typing? It’s meh. But will it be cool? Probably not but I need them to do Bayleef justice somehow.

Awesome vid

Totodile is still great in GSC. Rage sweeps the first three gyms, and even with mediocre Special Attack, it can still help against Morty with Bite, Jasmine with Surf and Dig, and Clair and Lance with a combination of Surf and Ice Punch.

Love to see the Meganium line appreciation!!

Chikorita still the most adorable can’t take that from her

Chikorita all the way. My Meganium had Poison Powder, Synthesis, Razor Leaf, Petal Dance in my HGSS Playthrough. At least I didn't struggle with Whitney and Clair. I also fared well in Bugsy's Gym. The Poison setup then switch to a Pokemon with a type adv had me going.

Wow, the clarity I knew but couldn’t put into words - Yes

Just doing a Soul Silver run and slightly regretting picking Cyndaquil. Knowing the coverage that Totodile will eventually get, I think I would have found it much more useful. However I also run a Lanturn and Poliwrath on the team to try and make up for it. Typhlosion has done me some good though and it did plenty of good stuff in the Pokemon League.

Chikorita, statis effects are overlooked. Also you can find many good water/fire in the wild but chikorita is the best grass you can find

It's interesting that Meganium actually had a bit of competitive use in Gens 2 and 3 because of its access to both Earthquake and Swords Dance. But yes, Typhlosion is crazy in Gen 2, and getting nerfed in Gen 4 still hurts me. Although I had fun recently playing through HeartGold using a Typhlosion that I bred to learn Extrasensory.

Chikorita also had a unique early game advantage that Cyndaquil and Totodile lacked- access to a STAB move earlier. Chikorita got Razor Leaf way earlier than Cyndaquil got Ember or Totodile got Water Gun, and Razor Leaf is the strongest move of the three. Granted, that move isn't a huge help against the first two Gyms, but Chikorita is more of a supporter, by and large. Even so, it can hold its own with Razor Leaf when the situation necessitates.

Cyndaquil, hadn't even finished the short.

I love your videos please make more

One thing that I love to do when starting a play through is getting all 3 regional starters from save file and beat the game with those 3 on my team. And I can say for sure that in my soulsilver run feraligatr carried my ass so hard

Bro changed his opinion after no catching challenge in heart gold

* holds totodile* dis is my little gator/dile i love him

True! That’s why I always picked Totodile

Always used totodile in gen 4, when it turns into feraligatr I had it's moves to dig, countering electric, ice fang, to freeze and deal with grass types, surf for STAB, and shadow claw for crits.

When i was a kid probably around 5 when gen 2 came out i always used chikorita for some reason it was just my favorite

In Generation 2 and all its versions, I always go with Totodile. I love that little guy.

easy answer: geodude. get a geodude and then graveller early on, bit of grinding for first gym to get your first rock move, but then sweeps falkner and bugsy. it learns rollout (or an equivalent icr) to counter whitneys miltank, (morty is neutral against), chuck is the only gym its weak against, so probably best to grab a second mon to counter chuck. jasmine its ground type moves can easily take out her team (especially with two steel electric magnemites), pryce is ice, rock type takes him down. finally claire, since its not any of the three starters, dragon lacks its resistance, so it's pretty good against claire. i recently did a play through of crystal, and it was my first time using this strat. grabbed a geodude on the rocky bit above the first route, and swept through the entire game in a about 5-6 hours if i remember correctly (this doesnt include kanto, just johto)

Also Thunder Punch is a TM in Gen 2 which Typhlosion can learn, which was replaced in Gen 4 with Thunder which it cannot, vital Special Water coverage.

playing a nuzlocke crystal now, with totodile as my starter. Totodile suffers from movepool problems, there are no physical water stabs (aside from hidden power) that can make best use of it's high attack stat, even though feraligator it's able to learn stuff like earthquake. Ferligator does have access to the elemental punches (which are special, but good type coverage). it's typing goes neutral to almost every thing, and does have access to bite and crunch, but they're considered special attacks in gen 2, not physical. It is very durable though, even against weakness. Gen 3 and 4 fixed these issues, but those are my observations Edit: I wrote this before finishing the short lmao

I loved Chikorita on my play throughs. I found it was the eaisest play through as a kid. Damn I wanna play crystal again.

Meganium pretty much is useful for a good portion of the Kanto gym leaders. It’s also good against Chuck’s Poliwrath and all of Pryce’s Pokémon (albeit with the risk of getting hit by his ice moves). But yeah overall it does get hit pretty hard though

Back in gen 2, not only was the fire starter good early, it kept being the best choice because you could teach typho earthquake and thunderpunch.