Who's do you believe is the best father figure in Star Wars?

@leoroemer6085

4 жыл бұрын

KraziKazi Qui-Gon Jinn. He comes from a place of caring and love, while most of the Jedi of his time were more political.

@KraziKazi

3 жыл бұрын

I couldn't agree more, his way of thinking made him the type of role model Anakin needed.

@leoroemer6085

3 жыл бұрын

KraziKazi Exactly. Qui-Gon knew that he would need to be the father that Anakin needed due to the nine-year-old boy having an attachment to his mother. Qui-Gon already knew the order he served was now dogmatic and political with their beliefs and his maverick nature put him at odds with the Jedi Order and its rules. The Duel of Fates determined the fate of Anakin Skywalker. Qui-Gon fought for Anakin to be the father that he needed. However his lack of forethought proved fatal, as Qui-Gon lived in the moment too much during his duel with Darth Maul on Naboo by rushing after him without a strategy. Maul was able to separate him from Obi-Wan and kill the Jedi Master by seeing through his technique and highlighting his flaws.

@goodmind4940

3 жыл бұрын

Jango Fett

@Pomoscorzo

3 жыл бұрын

Qui-Gon of course is an excellent father figure. (When he's standing behind child Anakin, we already see the silhouette and posture that will later become Vader's trademark. :-) Anakin in "The Clone Wars" showed that he could be a good father figure, although Ahsoka is more like a younger sister to him. Han Solo in "The Force Awakens" was incredible: the lengths that he went to save his son although the whole galaxy saw him as a man damned. Din Djarin, "The Mandalorian", is a wonderful example for a good father.

There's another key point I believe you overlooked about Qui-Gon: He NEVER once demands that Anakin join them...he speaks to Shmi privately and honestly about his belief that Anakin is Force Sensitive and then LETS Anakin and Shmi CHOOSE for themselves what to do. Last but not least, when Anakin runs back to his mother as they are leaving Qui Gon allows this to happen. Had Anakin changed his mind at that last moment, I believe Qui Gon would not have interfered.

@jordanread5829

2 жыл бұрын

This also contrasts well with Maul. As Maul was stolen from his Mother by Sidious to become a Sith. Meanwhile Anakin joined Qui-Gon willingly to become a Jedi. Maul was born free but became a slave to Sidious. Anakin was born a slave but was made free because of Qui-Gon. Sadly, Anakin would share Mauls fate with time.

@beatlecristian

2 жыл бұрын

As a Catholic, I love the typology George made with Anakin being born of a virgin through the force, the force became flesh.

@marshmallowvampire8503

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah. I always thought that is what Jedi did. (Side Discussion): I feel like people forget that altho Qui gon does his own thing he still does plenty of Jedi like stuff. There are other Jedi like Kit Fisto, Plo Koon, and Quinlin that display similar "deviation" from the straight laced, formulaic way of going, but I think that is an example of how diverse the Jedi are allowed to be rather than showing how bad they are. You need all knights, masters, seekers, and scholars to preserve different aspects of the he Jedi way, and Qui Gon being a bit of a rebel is one of those things.

@snowfall221

Жыл бұрын

@@beatlecristian Yesssssss!

Qui gon is what I imagine a middle aged Luke to be. He's everything a jedi should be.

@qui-gonjinn459

3 жыл бұрын

Perhaps

@andyknightwarden9746

3 жыл бұрын

Imagine if he had won.

@golden1_1dragon12

3 жыл бұрын

@Sheev Palpatine what a disgrace man 😔

@golden1_1dragon12

3 жыл бұрын

@Sheev Palpatine possibly

@SightsNScapes

3 жыл бұрын

Idk if anyone know the Myers Briggs test, it’s a personality test that’s so god damn accurate it’s actually scary, it’s not some trivial Facebook quiz. All that being said of the 16 different types of personalities. In 2015 or 2016 I went to a starwars exhibit in Cologne Germany and at each station you get you at the exhibit you answer 10 questions, and after making it through all 10 or 12 stations at the end it tells you who you are most similar to in the Star Wars universe. I’m an ENFP and so is Qui-Gon Ginn, so is Ashoka Tano, but Luke? He’s INFP, basically Luke is the introverted version of ENFP.

Qui Gon is literally my favorite Star Wars character. He is the embodiment of what it means to be a Jedi. A strong, confident, kind person who others can rely on. It makes me sad that we never got much more of him, but I understand why. Palpatine’s plan would have crumbled if Qui Gon had trained Anakin

@smallrockstudios9395

Жыл бұрын

YESSS

@nevermind-9630

Жыл бұрын

For the exact same reason Luke is my fav character

@MatthewBaran

7 ай бұрын

Yep, he would have had the father figure he needed to guide him.

I love how in the clone wars, anakin always calls obiwan by name but as soon as quigon appears as a force ghost, he imidatly calls him master. After all those years apart, the impact he left on anakin can still be felt

When you think about it Qui-Gon Jinn really is the Main Protagonist of the Phantom Menace. His ability to heavily influence everything around him and do it in a planned strategic way moment to moment really shows how in-tune he is with the force , how persuasive he is, and how Wise he is.

@AceLM92

3 жыл бұрын

It doesn't take a great deal of thought to see that Qui-Gon is the main protagonist. Unless one is a plinkett zombie

@seanchernov7178

2 жыл бұрын

He is the good mirror of Sheev

@anon9060

2 жыл бұрын

There are 2 protagonists of The Phantom Menace. Qui-Gon and Padme. Qui-Gon is the main driver for alot of the B plot with all of the political conspiracy/Jedi stuff while Padme is the main character of the A plot which features alot of the kids fantasy and senate stuff (which is why Padme, Anakin, and Jar Jar save Naboo while Obi Wan and Qui-Gon duel Darth Maul).

@eliminator1472

Жыл бұрын

@@AceLM92 Just look at the TPM poster

You can learn a thing or two from this character Gui Gon Jin in real life situations period.

I have a feeling that Qui-Gon would have gone back for Anakins mother had he survived. He's the only Jedi that would.

Truly, this is Liam Neeson's best role

@KraziKazi

4 жыл бұрын

It's definitely my favorite of his

@andreitataru6635

3 жыл бұрын

I could not agree more

@jamiemckell34

2 жыл бұрын

Check out Rob Roy if you ain't seen that movie. Lots of similarities to Qui Gon

@maxwellschwass

4 ай бұрын

Aside from aslan in chronicles of Narnia

We need a movie for qui gon

@golden1_1dragon12

3 жыл бұрын

That is his movie

@Mgslikker

2 жыл бұрын

Young count duku and qui gon

@dianabarnett6886

2 жыл бұрын

We do. It's called The Phantom Menace. He's the protagonist of it.

@peterbrazukas7771

2 жыл бұрын

I'm hoping we see more of him in the Kenobi series

What stands out to me about Qui-Gon, in contrast to all the other Jedi of the prequel era, is that he is truly a man of faith. You don't see a lot of trust in the Force from the others throughout the Clone Wars. The only ones who get close are Yoda and, naturally, his apprentice, Obi-Wan. Only once they've lost everything do they truly understand.

Qui-Gon saying to Jar Jar "Don't touch anything." Is for some reason probably my favorite line in the movie. You can just hear in the tone and delivery he's just calling Jar Jar a moron. Gives me a chuckle.

@ethann5410

3 жыл бұрын

Mine is when he says, "there's something about this boy"

@Kohay114

2 жыл бұрын

“The ability to speak does not make you intelligent” is my favorite Qui-Gon line to Jar Jar 😂

@A.C.E.

2 жыл бұрын

@@Kohay114 a lesson for us all

Qui Gon is my favorite SW character, he's the embodiment of "Lawful Neutral" he's just no matter what, no matter what is at stake or how it could have bad effects onto him. He's wise, compassionate, thoughtful and most importantly, the most connected being with the Force. Qui Gon is the single best Jedi on the prequels, Yoda could become that only after losing to his blindness

@leoroemer6085

3 жыл бұрын

I would love to have a teacher like Qui-Gon Jinn.

@dylanrajcula3527

3 жыл бұрын

Really? To be honest, I Actually have always saw Qui-Gon as the embodiment of “Neutral Good”!

@Kreon91

2 жыл бұрын

If he was lawful he would have followed the codex rules No, he is chaotic good. Gambling with the life of the queen and here people just because he thinks the boy would win. Training him even if the jedi don't allow it. All that is definitely more chaotic and not lawful.

@MetalHeadbanger7

2 жыл бұрын

As a sidenote to Yoda, the prequels show us that even the very wise aren't born this way, that even in their later years, they still have much to learn.

@ThinWhiteAxe

2 жыл бұрын

Neutral Good for sure. He is happy to disregard laws if he feels they conflict with his principles.

There is an interesting theory that says the kyber crystal of Luke's lightsaber in Episode 6 is the same as Qui-Gon's, that Obi-Wan kept the lightsaber of his master and Luke found it in his house when he returned to that place after the death of Obi-Wan. That's a simple, but great theory. The son comes to save his father with the "soul" of his "grandfather" by his side.

I think Qui Gon is the most underrated character in this whole franchise. He easily carries the most nuance of all of the Jedi

Qui-gon was always my favorite tbh.

Fortunately, Obi Wan did pass on Qui Gon’s wisdom. He tells Luke to use the force, to “let go”, which leads to Luke destroying the Death Star. That was partly a victory for the Rebellion, but ultimately, a victory of The Force

I remember how I thought if I would be playing Qui-Gon, I would imagine an idealized priest. Thank you for the video :-)

@KraziKazi

3 жыл бұрын

He definitely has that aura to him, and no problem, it's my pleasure.

@ZER-sc3pc

Жыл бұрын

Qui-Gon Jinn, Battle Pastor

Wow... I didn't even realize that this video was made by a smaller creator, it's really well edited, great job man.

Qui Gon was always my favorite Jedi, as well as my favorite character in Star Wars. As I get older, that belief is only reaffirmed.

Qui-Gon Jinn's Personality: Intelligent Wise Kind Caring Patient Compassionate Faithful Moral Headstrong Fatherly Unorthodox Stubborn Maverick

@KraziKazi

4 жыл бұрын

Spot on

@pauljacobs435

2 жыл бұрын

But Red Letter Media’s employees are too stupid to come up with one trait. SMH.

@pauljacobs435

2 жыл бұрын

@Son of a Book Keeper I’m only criticizing Stoklasa for his obviously scripted attempt to make it seem like people spontaneously react the same way he does while vetting the people he asks, drawn from friends and associates of RLM. Pretty lame way to make a point and insults the audience’s intelligence. My main issue with RLM was the way they failed to apply critical thinking to TFA, whose characters offend with unfathomable stupidity in the same way he accuses the prequel characters of doing. When I saw the Plinkett review for that stinker, I lost immense amounts of respect for RLM.

@Elcoin

2 жыл бұрын

I Ruined The 66 Likes

I think the jedi who was the closest to Qui Gon was Ahsoka Tano. She left the "Jedi" order, because it was too deep into cortuption and politics, not caring about individuals... The only 3 characters I know who were the proper Jedi: 1.Qui-Gon 2.Ahsoka (from TCW7) 3.Luke Skywalker (Fully realised in HTE)

@dylanrajcula3527

3 жыл бұрын

Yoda, Qui-Gon, Obi-Wan, Anakin, Ahsoka and Luke are my favorite Jedi characters of Star Wars who are TRUE and PROPER Jedi!!

@JessAnderson1988

2 жыл бұрын

I'd include Kanan in that list as well, perhaps even Ezra

@paulrasmussen8953

2 жыл бұрын

@@dylanrajcula3527 sorry Yoda isxa big reason the Jedi failed

@christopherwall2121

2 жыл бұрын

@@paulrasmussen8953 yeah, but he owns up to it

@paulrasmussen8953

2 жыл бұрын

@@christopherwall2121 not completely

Qui-Gon is the Gandalf of the SW universe. Both are masters for a reason in their respective universes too.

Qui Gon Jinn was sadly the only jedy at his time that has really following the will of the living Force. That's why his dead was so tragic - the other jedy was so politically involved, that they had forgotten what it is like to listen to the Force.

Amazing video. You're slept on man, thank you for this hidden gem.

@KraziKazi

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, I appreciate it!

I agree with most you've said, but I think Qui-Gon's death didn't seal Anakin's fate. It, of course, made the dark path closer to Anakin, but I think only with the death of Shmi was Anakin's fate sealed, because it strengthened his fear of losing his loved ones. Of course with Qui-Gon alive, Shmi's death wouldn't have been so harming to Anakin, but I think the real deal with Anakin's problems stands more in his relation with women - his mother and his wife - than with men - Qui-gon, Obi-wan and Sheev -.

@starlighter930617

3 жыл бұрын

But if Qui-Gon lived, I think Shmi wouldn't have died. Anakin had his dreams about his mother suffering for a long time and I'm sure Qui-Gon would have trusted Anakin's instincts and they both would have gone to Tatooine to find out what's going on. Also, I believe both Shmi's and Padmé's death was orchestrated by Sidious. It's odd from the Tuskens to take prisoners and held them captive for a month. And Padmé didn't die because she lost the will to live. That's just something the droid doctor thought was a logical answer. Nor she died because of a broken heart as her last words were: there's good in him. So she didn't give up hope and she just gave birth to twins, so she had every reason to stay alive. I think Padmé died because Sidious drained her life energy to transfer it into the dying Anakin. But ultimately, Qui-Gon could've changed Anakin's life because Anakin would have trusted him fully so he wouldn't need Palpatine to fill in that role.

@mr.safensound4238

2 жыл бұрын

@@starlighter930617 Shmi would have died eventually for that was the 'Will of the Force', which Qui-Gon was teaching Obi-Wan and Anakin to trust. Shmi's death was a turning point for Anakin moreso for the manner in which she died. Contrast her brutal end with that of Yoda's peaceful death in ROTJ, which Luke is able to come to terms with and accept. Although you can conjure all sort of theories about Palpatine somehow orchestrating her death, such was the danger of regular life on a backward 'wild West' planet such as Tatooine, there is actually no reason to look more deeply for reasons beyond the facts we were given on screen. But Palpatine's ingenuity had already begun to play a part in Anakin's psychology with the evil senator exploiting and playing on Anakin's worst fears. The issue for Anakin was the guilt, something he'd carried since the day he'd walked away from his mother to join the Jedi. He'd promised her then he'd be back to save her and then was unable to fulfill it. It was from this guilt that all his rage and bitterness grew. Your theory on Palpatine 'drawing Padme's life-force' is also totally unnecessary, since Padme's broken heart stemmed entirely from her clinging to that slim 'hope' in some goodness remaining in Anakin. Yet also witnessing just how little of that goodness remained, and what a terrible force for evil her hero had become. This is what brought her more pain than her stressed heart could bear.

@paulrasmussen8953

2 жыл бұрын

@@mr.safensound4238 the three keys that doomed anakin. Quite gon's death, Shmi's death, and the council's betrayal of Ashoka.

This needs more likes

I think you missed a point about Qui Gon betting with ‘Watto’s Pod’. Anakin raced with W’s pod but it was smashed in a previous race. Anakin has been working on his pod for years and he’s only 9. To me it sounds like Anakin built his own pod (he did build C3PO) rather than taking Watto’s wreck. Watto would more likely salvage or sell his old pod rather than let Anakin ‘steal’ it. There isn’t proof either way, just that I’m pretty sure Qui Gon isn’t betting with Watto’s pod but Anakin’s.

Excellent analysis and observations, followed by solid, even poetic examples. As an older Star Wars fan, it has felt a bit like vindication that people are finally seeing the value of the characters and the stories created in the prequel series, which I have loved nearly as much as the OG series. And absolutely dead-on point regarding Jar Jar's necessity to Qui-Gon's story arc.

@smallrockstudios9395

Жыл бұрын

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The dual of fates is an exhalent metaphor for the story as a whole, come to think of it. It echoes the fate and cycle from Qui-Gon, Obi, Ani, and Luke. 200/10!

Qui-Gon was probably the best and most pure character in all of Star Wars. Imagine what things would be like if he survived and was the Grand Master?

Wow, this video is truly awesome. And so is Qui-Gon Jinn!

These are probably the most enjoyable comments on the Star Wars saga. Very deep, very interesting, with a lot of love and care for the characters. Thank you.

Qui gon was my Favourite as a kid wished we got more of him

"Man, Obi Wan is a savage." Brilliant comment

Amazing video once again, you are underrated good man

This is so beautifully and eloquently put. Thank you ❤️

Fantastic video!

Your work is great. Thank you.

GREAT video essay and character study! thank you!!

This is so good!

You've got some amazing videos man. Keep it up

I just finished season one of Kenobi and thank you man for this video. It made me appreciate Qui Gon even more.

I love phantom menace it's my favorite Star Wars film

8:01 Wow I don't know why, but I've never made that connection... it does make a ton of sense though, nice job on finding that! 👌

I watched the Obi-Wan character analysis videos. He has become my favourite character as a result. I sincerely appreciate the effort you put into the videos. I hope you continue this series soon.

THESE ARE AMAZING VIDEOS! Your channel is so underrated you will go far!

This series deserves 100x more views

I didn't like that they killed him off right away. He was awesome and Liam did and outstanding job with the character. Favorite of all time!

Best Jedi ever

God man … his death changed EVERYTHING RIP an absolute beast Him and Mace together felt they for sure could’ve stopped the future from happening 😢

Qui-Gon is the person Anakin needed in his life to not fall to the dark side.

so good

Great video! I wish you included the deleted scene where Qui Gon gives Anakin some words of wisdom after Qui Gon catches Anakin fighting with another kid, Greedo. But, it was a deleted scene, so I understand.

These are excellent well thought out Star Wars videos. I hope we get a Luke, Vader, and Ben kenobi video. I hope we don’t get a Rey Finn or Kyle Rex video.

I've always felt since the first time I watched TPM that there was something very cool, and reliable and gentle about this character, despite being a kid who didn't understand anything

Anakin dies after embracing the light side again after years in darkness. his body surrounded & engulfed in the light of the fire, burning & destroying the suit that entrapped him in darkness for decades.

@ashishverma2008

3 жыл бұрын

Well written buddy 😂😂😊😊

@dylanrajcula3527

3 жыл бұрын

22 years of light and 21 years of darkness being encased in the Darth Vader body armor.

Its funny how they said Anakin was too old to be a Jedi when Eeth Koth a Jedi Master part of the Jedi Council was also too old to be trained and yet he was trained

@paulrasmussen8953

2 жыл бұрын

Another hypocrisy of the order

I wonder what a debate between Qui-Gon and Kreia (or Darth Traya, whichever you prefer) would turn out to be.

It's funny I've heard people say they hate any number of other star wars characters. All except qui-gon I have never met any one who hates or even dislikes him lol

“The ability to speak does not make you intelligent” - Qui-Gon Jinn

Great analysis! Make some more. Would be cool if you analyzed MCU or DC characters as well.

Qui gon was the only jedi character I liked from the prequels the man knew what he was doing and his death for me is probably the most important in the whole saga If qui gon wasn't killed by darth maul anikan never would've turned to the darkside

he is jedi jesus

"There is surely nothing other than the single purpose of the present moment. A man's whole life is a succession of moment after moment. There will be nothing else to do, and nothing else to pursue. Live being true to the single purpose of the moment. People forget this important truth, and keep seeking other things to accomplish. Be true to the thought of the moment and avoid distraction. Other than continuing to exert yourself, enter into nothing else, but go to the extent of living single thought by single thought." - Yamamoto Tsunetomo, Hagakure (Hidden [by the] Leaves). The jedi often seem to take inspiration from the Eastern concept of the warrior monk; so it hardly seems surprising to me that the character who most embodies what the jedi are supposed to be occasionally echoes peacetime meditations on bushidou, at least in part.

When watcing the movie you could sense that Qui-Gon was special compared to the rest of the order

Qui Gon is such a beast. I never really thought about it much as a kid, but he literally just does whatever he wants and it's so cool. Great video, dude. Are you planning on making one for Anakin?

its rare to see videos related to Qui-Gon Jinn the greatest Jedi ever in my eyes🥰👏🏻💁🏻‍♀️💯im glad i found this video and credits to this channel for giving the justice Master Qui-Gon Jinn rightfully deserves 💯👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

Really Qui Gon was one of the greatest, the next closest I think would’ve been Eno Cordova, since they had strong connections with the force and focused far more on wisdom and exploring the force and Galaxy than just focusing on fighting

If dooku was able to teach qui gon about the flaws of the jedi and let him think for himself, why was that not translated to obi wan if the public opinion is qui gon would have been the perfect teacher for anakin? obi wan is shown to be by the jedi code all the way, disagreeing with qui gon on a few things in the phantom menace for being somewhat rebellious against the jedi code. On that note, it doesn't seem many of qui gon's traits carried over to obi wan at all. was qui gon a good teacher to obi wan? If I'm missing something and obi wan does have some traits from his master's teachings or there's reason to a lack of traits carried over, I'd love to know.

I wonder if he survived to The First Order how would he deal with young Ben Solo Skywalker in that time .

Boy... aint you glad Obi Wan Kenobi episode 6 makes this video even more awesome

Why would Palpatine send Maul to (seemingly) kill Qui-Gon & Obi-Wan on Tatooine? Would he have then kidnapped Anakin or what? Did Maul know about Sheev’s plans for Anakin?

@disma4191

2 жыл бұрын

He was not planning anything until The end when he says The thing about follwing his career with Great interest

They call him Qui-Gon Jinn, cuz he's always drinking Gin

He's a true Jedi

You should make a case for ray as being the greatest jedi of all time .

"Poor Watto" He was a slavelord..

Quigon, The optimistic gambler

Qui Gon is like the Jiraiya of StarWars.

If Qui Gon survived his fight with Maul, he could start up a grey Jedi council with the help of Dooku and will drag Obi Wan and Anakin along with him

How do I like a video twice?

My favorite characters in the Star War Saga is Obi-Won, Hans Solo, Yoda, Darth Vader

Probably the most disgusting thing I read in the Darth Plagueis book was the fact that unless a Senator or high official in a Republic World petition's the Jedi, they don't help anyone. If a person can reach a Jedi and ask for help, the Jedi should help them.

He is the master I would’ve wanted. If he lived 100% we wouldn’t of gotten Vader. If the sequels went wth a pure good Luke then he should’ve been like qui gon.

IMO Qui-gonn did not achieve "immortality". Imagine if you were sitting around thinking about something, and you started to day dream about "i wonder what so and so would say" and then you recieved an answer in your head. Not somebody elses voice, but not your voice either. What I believe master jinn did was pass on a technique to help jedi attune to his way of thinking philosophy etc so that they could "call upon his essence" so to speak. Once jinn returned to the force he was one with the force. But the force used his "image". Jinn didnt really do anything to change events or seek anything personal in the afterlife. It's more like he taught the ability to commune with "him" to yoda etc. How to call out to the force, and honestly have a convo with somebody that doesnt exist bc they are once again part of THE ONE. It's like the difference between having an imaginary convo with a dead person and actually having that convo; meaning the respones are legit. But it's not jinn going out of his way to speak, its the force using his form. Like the difference between a sith ghost on korriban and what jinn accomplished. He returned to the force, lost his own person hood, but still taught those who still lived to talk to "him". The point here is that the ability to speak to a "dead person" and the ability to speak to the living force is the same philosophically and jinn taught the rigid jedi of his time a technique to converse with the living force using whatever avatar was appropriate to them personally atm. So imo jinn did so, so much more than become immortal in the grand scale of things.

What if Anakin DID NOT drop?

Quinogon

So you are saying that the two best Jedi are Qui gon Jinn and Luke Skywalker

yeah thats me alright

I probably would have ended jarjar, I was tired of him after 3 min

honelsty i think anakin wouldn of turned evil if qui gon was there cause we know obi wan failed anakin as he even says it himself

"Who's the best?... I believe there are quite a few." *proceeds to explain a few in 15 min each, then spends 4 whole videos on Palpatine alone* ... No, Sir, you do not believe there are a few best characters. You believe there is only one.

Qui gon jin sees the bigger picture, unlike the other jedi who get involved (breaking jedi code by interference) they get involved with the Senate the Republic instead of just keeping to the true original jedi way of the force and peacekeepers , as qui gon jin always does. Obi wan is overrated Luke barly gets by with the skin of his teeth either by escape running away or the help of others but qui gon jin keeps true to the name jedi. They call him a grey jedi but that's only because the purpose of the jedi has been manipulated, be it by the Senate the council the republic completely detached from the jedi order / code , he's the only one who actually keeps to the true original pure meaning of the jedi code

I'd argue Qui Gon is a grey jedi. He doesn't fear the dark side but he isn't tempted by it. If Qui Gon killed Darth Maul, he would have trained Anakin, and Anakin would be able to see through Palpatine's malicious intent and brainwashing tactics.

Qui gon jin sees the bigger picture, unlike the other jedi who get involved (breaking jedi code by interference) they get involved with the Senate the Republic instead of just keeping to the true original jedi way of the force and peacekeepers , as qui gon jin always does. Obi wan is overrated Luke barly gets by with the skin of his teeth either by escape running away or the help of others but qui gon jin keeps true to the name jedi. They call him a grey jedi but that's only because the purpose of the jedi has been manipulated, be it by the Senate the council the republic the politics they completely detached from the jedi order / code jedi's true purpose, he's the only one who actually keeps to the true original pure meaning of the jedi code

Excuse me hi and I’m sorry - from my point of view which perhaps no one will agree, quigon needs to be Anakins father, not his father figure, even it means without being his Jedi master.

@havesomeculture

Жыл бұрын

His adoptive father but still nevertheless

They should retcon qui gon as sith.. he cheats uses the force to gamble knows everything. In his 15 minutes of screen time. Steals child. Insists on training when everyone says no. Maul kills him like anakin kills dukoo. It would make more sense if he was a turn coat too.