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I just purchased the Saris H3, and the host of this video is spot on about that particular direct smart trainer. I am very happy to have this and do more virtual riders on Zwift! Thank you for presenting this help video!

Initial response: Got this bike for my friend. kzread.infoUgkxUiL0GnyDjP32RJdd660sP8mZk4CRLTCJ Delivery was fast. And the friend was surprised I would order it when she had never suggested she wanted anything but the pedal bike she had. She has now ridden the bike two times and gives it a 10 and says it is very fun. We have some hills in our town that are very challenging to climb on a typical bike. But tonight she went up with the pedal assist and loved it. I was way behind on my standard bike, huffing and puffing. Now she is no longer lagging behind me. This thing is powerful enough that a person could go around town without any pedaling. She likes to get some exercise so on flat ground she hits the red button to turn off pedal assist and only uses the twist throttle when she's in a tough spot. The bike looks good. It is really a very nice bike for the friend. Now for me, when I get an electric bike, I'm twice her size and will be looking for a bigger watt motor and battery. But this one is just wonderful for my friend. I am happy with this purchase.

This is by far the best, most forthright and objective cycling program I know of, aside from the viciously honest Hambini. Bravo !

Thank You for sharing your opinions and expertise on these units. I’m in the market for one now as the winter ❄️ creeps upon us 👍🏾

Please leave all abusive comments about my wiggling hips and how annoyed my excessive hand gestures made you below 😘 Thanks for watching! Jack

@IraklyShanidze00X

4 жыл бұрын

Jack, my eyes were so absolutely focused on the Polka dots, so I haven't even noticed either hips or hands waving about

@robbchastain3036

4 жыл бұрын

Hands are fine, Jack, hips are fine, too. It's the hair, man, the hair that annoys me. Something needs to be done, perhaps a visit to Joe's stylist. And I grin and I appreciate this deep look at indoor trainers, Jack. Thanks and I'll be watching for you to take the win at a Zwift cafe? You could definitely beat Joe, I just know it.

@bikeradar

4 жыл бұрын

@@robbchastain3036 Is it the knowledge that you can never have hair as beautiful as mine? You better not watch one of Felix's video if so - you'll go green with jealousy!

@robbchastain3036

4 жыл бұрын

@@bikeradar O man, now the whole world knows I'm jealous, Jack. O well, I guess I just talk too much :)

@leedorney

4 жыл бұрын

I just liked you getting more tired as this went on 😄

Thanks so much for this really objective review. I just purchased a Tacx Flux S smart trainer and love it. This is my first foray into direct drive trainers and I love the quietness and ease of assembly, I'm a Garmin guy and love the way everything syncs up. Also do not buy the Garmin hub, the trainer comes with a hub that uses most cassettes . I purchased a 9 speed Shimano and it fit just fine. You do have to use the also included spacer and be sure you have a chain whip and wrench to put it on the trainer.

I was an early adopter of the TACX Neo, Serial # 36. I put on thousands of KMs annually and many pain cave hours. It has worked flawlessly. I am not sure I would say “hours of fun and joy”, more like hours of pain and suffering. But that’s why we buy these devices and I can’t say enough about this unit that just works and works. Some day it will crap out and I will run right out and buy another. No question.

Cracking review cheers….think the saris is on the shopping list 👌🏻

Really excellent. I suffer from asthma, and as it's worse (much) in winter, I am considering using a smart trainer rather than road riding. Thanks

Do you train indoors? 🏠 What is your top pick for smart trainers? 🤖 Have you built the perfect pain cave? 💪 Let us know in the comments!

@user-lq6vp9el6l

4 жыл бұрын

BikeRadar I have a Cycleops hammer 1, it’s a great trainer. Haven’t used other comparable trainers, but Cycleops(now saris) has great customer service. Previously had the Cycleops Magnus and it was way too loud.

@mveilleu99

4 жыл бұрын

Wahoo Kickr + Zwift love it!

@farrl

4 жыл бұрын

KICKR 2018 is my trainer, works great.

@troyfall6573

4 жыл бұрын

I purchased the Saris H3 a couple of weeks ago. I have been using it for a week and was able to get it on sale for $825 here in the US. It is whisper quiet and installed flawlessly with Zwift. Some reviewers knock the trainer for having to purchase a separate cassette but this was necessary if a rider wants to ride both indoors and outdoors. My bike takes an 11 speed cassette and I was not going to pull the cassette from my bike tire every time I wanted to use the trainer. Purchased a spare Shimano 105 cassette for $46 which was minimal. Also now my outdoor riding does not put wear and grime on my indoor trainer cassette.

@larrycurran7005

4 жыл бұрын

Have a wahoo kicker snap for over three years and use Indoor Cycling Workout (ICW) software. Never used Zwift. Am very happy with the combo. Never considered upgrading to a more expensive trainer. Race time trials and train almost exclusively indoors. Training has been more enjoyable than outdoors as I can train without interruption (traffic, stop signs & lights etc.). The wahoo snap has been an excellent unit with no downtime. Thanks for the great reviews of various trainers.

Thank you for such an in depth review!!!

@bikeradar

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and glad you found the video useful!

Just got my Saris H3. Agree with all said about it: super low noise level, it just works with Rouvy, very stable on the floor and accurate measurements. Love it!

@roberteisenbach624

3 жыл бұрын

Same here! I'm super happy with the H3

This review really helped me choose the right trainer. Thx! :)

@Purplengold09

3 жыл бұрын

Which one did you end up getting..

thank you, really comprehensive

@bikeradar

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and glad you found it useful!

Amazing review, very helpful! 🔥👍🏾

Best smart trainer guide out there! Keep up with the awesome work ✌🏼

I've just ordered the Suito. I can't wait! Seems like a super solid and usable trainer.

@jrbos

4 жыл бұрын

Got my Suito a few months back. Love it!

@MegaMagicbeans

4 жыл бұрын

Very happy my Suito, bit of a bargain pre C19.

@SachiGortchi

3 жыл бұрын

does its calibration function work ?

Really great review, I have been waiting for this so I don't have to guess what to buy. Cheers!

@ShutUpandRideMTB

4 жыл бұрын

@Andrew S I'm still not sure yet. My bike is a 1 x 11 gravel grinder and I need to get a TV screen as well. What do you think is the best?

@ShutUpandRideMTB

4 жыл бұрын

@Andrew S Andrew, thanks very much for the advice, I'm going to look up Kickr on Amazon. Cheers!

@TheDbtom

4 жыл бұрын

@@ShutUpandRideMTB Don't go for the core whatever you do. The amount of ones we've had returned to the shop and have to get warranted is ridiculous. It's at least one a week at the moment! Go for Elite Direto or get the normal kickr. Best trainer by far is Neo 2T, but appreciate that's a lot of money

What really matters about the dB of each trainer is the pitch and overall vibration. High pitched turbos in a carpeted and well furnished room won’t sound travel into the next room however trainers with heavy low pitch vibration or send a drilling noise through the whole house!!

Informative. Difficult to cover subjective stuff, but you did a grand job. Now impress us and say you tested all non stop in a couple of hours clocking up mega Zwift miles

Very useful video

kickr and kickr core the only one that works with the climb add on. if you're a climber this is a must have accessory as the front end lifts on gradients forcing you to use the muscles that you normally would on climbs.

I was most impressed by the Elite Suito(case). Why don't all smart trainers have a little battery and dynamo powered by the legs and do away with plug ins?

Both kickr’s now have cadence enabled via a simple firmware update. The Kore is the best value trainer you can buy.

Great review, and as you get closer to perfection, it's easier to find the nits to pick. :-) Neo 2T is the latest, so it's important to make the distinction between Neo 2, and Neo 2T. They are not the same animal. The Neo 2T has increased torque (that's what the T stands for), angled magnets to reduce torque cogging, and directly supports thru axle without need for adapters. The purple light is not a new feature; it's the same light it's always been, and is only purple when in use. It varies from blue to red and every shade between depending on the output. 400 watts and above is solid red. The reason Neo does not come with a cassette is because of the wide variety of cassettes the Neo can accept; there is a 1 in 5 chance that whatever Tacx chose to include would not fit your bike, so it saves you 2 minutes removing it. :-) Personally, I would like to see Tacx include a voucher for a reduced price on the cassette that you prefer, from one of the major players like Shimano. Dream a little dream. Great review though. Neo is the one.

@andyh8239

4 жыл бұрын

I have a Scott 29er Carbon Mt. bike. 11sp. Looking at trying zwift. Was looking at the Neo 2T, or the Wahoo kicker w/climb bundle. No idea what to expect, or how the casset swap stuff works. I kind of want to buy two trainers so I don't have to excercise alone. 2nd bike is an Aluminum Trek California 29er 3x9 I think. Any advice?

@jozaner

4 жыл бұрын

Andy H Have you decided which one would you buy. I'm having the same problem 😀

@andyh8239

4 жыл бұрын

@@jozaner I'm leaning toward the Neo 2T. Was hoping Zwift would offer an incentive like a free year of Zwift w/purchase, but I guess they want that money for themselves lol.

@andyh8239

4 жыл бұрын

@@jozaner I placed an order for a Neo 2T through Masherz.com I will probably also order a KickR Core for a 2nd Zwifter. (They didn't stock whaoo products) Still searching for a deal.

@jozaner

4 жыл бұрын

Andy H I’ve ordered Wahoo Kickr+Climb trough bike24.de(I’m living in Germany). Can’t wait to get my hands on it. The decision was tough and I hope I’ve made the right one for my needs... This is my first winter on an indoor trainer, just spent 40 days on Tacx Galaxya(and bougt my first road bike) and Zwift only to see if I’m going to get hooked up and it worked 🤩

Sounds like every trainer is impressive...

Using the cheapest smart trainer out there, Tacx Satori Smart since beginning of the cold weather and absolutely LOVING it. Sure it’s not comparable to the 500+ ones but if you are just after keeping fit and constant training it does the job perfectly. No need to slash out tons of $$$

@flooooooo0686

3 жыл бұрын

@Nick Maclachlan been riding on a Flux S since October....worth every penny

Good review video!👍

@bikeradar

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching, check out our latest test for 2022! kzread.info/dash/bejne/jHyL1LymY6ucdtI.html

Good review. On the back of this I bought an Elite Suito as it seems the best value for money.

@SachiGortchi

3 жыл бұрын

"Spindown" is the automatic calibration, right ? Works fine ? No further adjustments / hassle ?

@Wargwarn

3 жыл бұрын

@@SachiGortchi yeah mate, on the Elite app. Think you redo it every few months or before ftp test.

2021? Video is from 2019

Nice job Jack, one of my favorite bike stuff presenters.

@bikeradar

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Norman! Glad to hear you enjoyed it. Jack

Nice one

Wahoo Kickr 2018...dead reliable, great build quality and best bang for the $

@LarsRR

4 жыл бұрын

ell witz for about the same price you get the Kickr Core + Kickr Climb. I think the package is better and more engaging if money is an object.

@WSTP3

4 жыл бұрын

I had some issues that just couldn't be overcome. I'm sure it was just a lemon and most are fine. www.reddit.com/r/Zwift/comments/b0v35w/think_twice_before_buying_the_wahoo_kickr_18core/

@troyfall6573

4 жыл бұрын

The Kickr is $1200 here in the US and I was able to purchase the new Saris H3 for $825 with free shipping. They are equally great products but I prefer the appearance of the Saris H3 and the extra $375 in my pocket. Kudos to Saris for putting downward pressure on the bloated cost of these trainers.

@staleygreg

3 жыл бұрын

@@troyfall6573 where did u get the H3 for that price?

@troyfall6573

3 жыл бұрын

@@staleygreg I replied but youtube deleted my response. I will break the website name apart. d i s c o u n t bandit . c om. They are a broker that charges a $25 fee to find a seller willing to sell me the item for 20% off. It worked for me.

Hello good !! I am a great follower tullo, I am watching several videos on rollers ... and I have seen in your video the perfect video since you analyze the principalities of each brand !! But I can't understand what you're saying since I'm from Spain and I don't understand your language !! You could see if you can put the subtitles of the video in Spanish !! Thanks friend!! A strong greeting

Nice TV Stand, where did you get that from? Also no Kickr Snap in the review, surely that is the most popular wheel on smart trainer? Finally one thing that bugs me is some of those trainers stick out a long way behind the rear axle, ideally in limited space a trainer that doesn't take excess space backwards would be great. Flux S looks good in that respect.

i actually cant believe that you guys didnt mention the non calibration needed on the neo 1/2/2t its 1 of the better features that all other trainers dont have

@klausklaus2119

4 жыл бұрын

victorlwd what does this mean? I dont have a smart trainer, but want to buy one, can you explain?👌🏻

@abu1950

3 жыл бұрын

@@klausklaus2119 It means that you wouldn't need to spin up or down before racing to calibrate the smart trainer which takes one extra step away from setup

If you want a true budget smart trainer take a look at the Tacx Flow Smart £180 in UK from Halfords. I used one for over two years before upgrading to a Kore.

I'm happy with my Kickr Snap

As others have stated, Kickr Core now has cadence included in the latest firmware. Ran it alongside my regular cadence sensor and it matched perfectly. I assume it’s witchcraft 💁🏻‍♂️

@ooldmka

4 жыл бұрын

Well not really. Just reverse mathematics.

How can a user choose between them if everything is a 4* or 4.5*? need some science behind these ratings and a greater spread of results otherwise whats the point in offering a review if we can't distinguish between them?

@brody5211

3 жыл бұрын

Because they are winging it

@CODzyzz

3 жыл бұрын

well i mean they are saying these are the best on the market, most of them are going to be top end in rating, should just be more clear with what the differences are even if they share the same rating

@mitchelkoertsmeijer9483

3 жыл бұрын

@@CODzyzz I got the elite suito myself and a co-worker got the tacx neo. There is not much of a difference if you are just trying to get in shape. Most of us will never notice the difference at all imo. So what this review gives you is that it all comes down to budget and personal preference. I bought the suito because everything else was out of stock! Else i would have gone for the kickr core but i have no good argument why ;)

@joesantos7196

3 жыл бұрын

@@mitchelkoertsmeijer9483 did you get the suito from a local bike shop or online? thanks

@mitchelkoertsmeijer9483

3 жыл бұрын

@@joesantos7196 i got it online because covid! All stores are closed here in Holland.

I like it... 😀

The Saris M2 also sends cadence (unlike the Snap).

I didn't realize Garmin is behind Tacx. The winner for me!!

I ordered the Tacx neo 2t it's coming tomorrow:)

@joemcteer2897

4 жыл бұрын

How you finding it mate? Was it all you hoped?

@clydea.hutchisoniv5742

4 жыл бұрын

Joe Mcteer it’s awesome! It’s pretty much silent, easy to set up, works flawlessly and I love the road feel over the cobbles etc. I have been using it on Zwift exclusively and it’s the only trainer I ever had. I’m “. Hutchy” on Zwift. I used the period as my first name

@joemcteer2897

4 жыл бұрын

@@clydea.hutchisoniv5742 superb! Thanks for the feedback. I'll look you up when I have set up my pain room. Cheers buddy.

@brody5211

3 жыл бұрын

@@clydea.hutchisoniv5742 I’ve read the watts are very accurate and lads are losing watts on zwift because of it , the rest are not as accurate

would you do a review on the thinkrider x 7 pro ?

Nice video , thanks :), which one is better Magene T300 or Tacx Flux 2 ?

Hello. Thanks for video. Still hard to decide. Does the Wahoo Kickr have a built in speed sensor? And what about cadence? Thanks for the answers!

Re Cadence meter Wahoo Kikr Core. Cadence meter not needed after latest firmware update. It's a well made great trainer.

Core does not included a front wheel block, as none is needed The rear sits lower, so the bike is at a proper angle, and yes it does include cadence

what trainer would you recommend for a big boi? like 375lb big lol. What do you think would hold that weight?

Elite suito or wahoo kickr?

Suggestion for future reference: A sound level without a distance is a useless number. Further, it would be appropriate to confirm whether the sound level is linear or A weighted.

@misha197de

2 жыл бұрын

they use an iPhone app, what do you expect?

3000+ power?!?! for indoor Ebikes?

How do you know what kind of cassette to get? I have an old 1980's Schwinn that I can hook up and dont need to ever remove.

If I can ask some advice: 1. I have a Tacx Bushido. It may break soon. All I want to do is spin on a Turbo using the gears as resistance. I don't need a monitor system. 2. I want a turbo which is compact to fold up like the Bushido. The Flux is huge. I have limited space. 3. I don't want to pay a monthly fee to use an app. My Garmin watch is fine. 4. I am a complete novice and only use the Turbo twice a week in the winter max. Which turbo do I buy?. My Bushido is perfect. I wish they would make more . Thanks

Which has the heaviest resistance? Preferably wheel off

Hey, you forgot the best mid-range smart trainer - Elite Direto X, which is available for only 695$ outside EU (RRP is 899$)

@thomaswinkler9610

4 жыл бұрын

I paid 679€ including tax something like a month ago.

One mistake noticed: Wahoo kickr core does have cadence output.

The wahoo kickr core DOES track cadence. I have one, trust me.

Awesome review, but is that top tube reach to long for you?

@robcollinson9508

4 жыл бұрын

Mike McCallan I think that looks like Joe’s bike

How did you guys measure dB output using an iPhone? Any special app? I ask this because I’m pretty sure something’s wrong with my Wahoo KICR now (it’s not nearly as silent as everyone claims it to be, nor has it ever been) and I’d like to measure that and activate its warranty with Wahoo.

should mention if they work with SRAM XDR and should test the Magene T300.

Very thorough video, thanks bruv. I just started cycling 2 years ago and am looking into an indoor trainer for the winter seasons. I am 6'4" and generally maintain a body weight of 270 lbs/19ish stone. Would any of these trainers accommodate a larger rider such as myself?

@njm3211

4 жыл бұрын

It's all up to your bike. If it fits you it will fit the trainer.

@KdM_BigRingBubba

4 жыл бұрын

Wahoo has a weight limit of 250 lb for their trainers. The Neo 2T is 275 and the H3 can take up to 300. Those weights are supposed to be both rider and bike.

Do you need a particular style of bike for these trainers? I have a spare scott hardtail with lockout front suspension. Its immaculate and barely uses. Is this sufficient? TIA

The KICKR models do not need a wheel block, the bike sits level without one.

Which one should I buy now😅😕

Can you advise ... the best is Magene T300 or FLUX 2 I want to buy one

The direto is much better value than the Flux. Additionally, both the drivo and direto can be bought easily for almost half the prices you're quoting. I'd have included the Atom in the list too, more interesting than some of your choices....

Hell there, can you suggest me which ones is better tacx flux s or elite suito ? I have started to use road bike since 5 months. I want to buy as above models. I hope you give right direction.

Do the smart trainers take into account wind resistance when calculating pedal resistance? Is that part of the algorithm?

@thomasclougher2281

2 жыл бұрын

Wind resistance doesn't effect your power, it will only make you slower at a given power. The trainers measure the amount of power you make, so at that power level, you will achieve different speeds depending on gradient and wind speed/direction.

You don’t need a wheel block on the wahoo’s. They are designed to sit level on the floor without one.

Wahoo kikr core transmits the cadence, I know it, because I have it :-)

Upgraded from an Elite Rampa to the Suito a few weeks ago and could not be happier, it's nice and quiet, folds down pretty small and the pedaling feel is really nice...only power measurements still seem to be off from my powermeter, not as much as the Rampa though...

@channul4887

3 жыл бұрын

Does the Suito have power meter? Their own website says that Direto is the one that comes with one.

Can you put a mountain bike on one of these? I love my bike, but really should have just bought a road bike. I think, because I needed to use it for grocery shopping and general transportation, it made sense at the time. Thanks.

Which brand is the most reliable? Which brand has the best customer support?

Oreka Training O2 Trainer is missing in this list...

The socks are from your Dad? Love them. BikeRadar should send you to australia or tenerife or mallorca. Get some tan lines.

@bikeradar

4 жыл бұрын

I have been to all three of those places during my time at BikeRadar and I still came back looking like a ghost - my pale Celtic complexion literally reflects sunlight ☀️👻 Thanks for watching! Jack

Have you guys tried the Thinkrider?

The most important criteria is reliability, too much emphasis on noise. Your indoor fan will make more noise than these units. I had the Neo which is a great machine but suffers a bit on reliability. So moved to the kickr v5 which has pretty much all the bugs ironed out.

Great reviews thank you....is it OK to use a carbon frame bike on the turbo's please ?

@larrycurran7005

4 жыл бұрын

Just noticed your question. I use a carbon trek madone 5 on my kicker snap unit. For around 4 years now with no problems. Can't say about other units but most should be no problem. Check with bike mfg for sure. Hope that helps.

@prayertool

3 жыл бұрын

alan morris I have used a Cervalo R3 for years on an early generation Kickr. No problems

So which one should I buy? They're all under £1000 new since I get a discount on Garmin/ Tacx turbo trainers.

Dont know if this is a silly question. But im pretty new to all this.. Is it okay to use a carbon frame on these trainers?? Or will i need to use my 'winter' bike?

Did you notice compliance in the Tacx towards the drive side of the bike (i.e. right)? I have been combating this compliance for years on my gen 1 Neo as the bike never feels quite "right" when I ride it. Has anyone else experienced this? If so, how did you resolve it? When I level the trainer on my floor it makes the bike feel like it leans too far to the left so I have no real objective method to determine if the bike is level on the trainer.

do you know any smart trainers that can fit a 141 mm qr hub (boost)?

Core has cadence, just update firmware !

@AndrewGrease

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah the core after the update is really the way to go - quality/price + soooo silent

@Try_n_2Tri

4 жыл бұрын

Really??!! I didn't know that and I OWN ONE!! I have the cadence sensor on my pedal... I'll have to update my firmware. Thanks for that Ark!

@capthook1

4 жыл бұрын

Wahoo seems way too sketchy.

@trsdos80

3 жыл бұрын

@@capthook1 how so?

Any comments on wattbike atom?

Core doesn't need a front wheel riser as in the vid. Bike sits level without. In fact in the vid you can see the bike front wheel is pointing upwards

can be used for a 29 mtb bike?

do they all wark with disc brake bikes?

Do you know of ANY direct drive smart trainer that works with a 126mm classic bike frame and 6-7 speed gearsets? Would like to train using my eroica bike...

Who else is here because of quarantine?

@MegaMagicbeans

4 жыл бұрын

who cares ?

@squidiebah

4 жыл бұрын

Who else can't afford any of these?

LOL Does Wahoo have a stipulation that db measurements cannot be stated? I noticed it was the only one without them.

Hmm, received a mail two weeks ago that Bkool are stopping with the manufacturing of hardware and focussing on the simulator software. Selling their hardware rights to Versa Design.

where is elite direto x? what's your rating?

I heard that there's a smart trainer/bike with several Swiss mountains routes in it. Does anyone know something about it? Thank you in advance! :-)

You seem to have forgotten one key feature of the TACX NEO 2T that no other smart trainers have in this review - no calibration needed EVER.

@jacobbarrick6947

3 жыл бұрын

The Kickr V5 just got this feature if I’m not mistaken.

Actually the Wahoo Kickr Core does have cadence data. It was added in the latest firmware, and it works perfectly.

What application is that running on-screen, how does it work?

If I can ask some advice: 1. I have a Tacx Bushido. It may break soon. All I want to do is spin on a Turbo using the gears as resistance. I don't need a monitor system. 2. I want a turbo which is compact to fold up like the Bushido. The Flux is huge. I have limited space. 3. I don't want to pay a monthly fee to use an app. My Garmin watch is fine. 4. I am a complete novice and only use the Turbo twice a week in the winter max. Which turbo do u buy?. My Bushido is perfect. I wish they would make more . Thanks

@Engel888

3 жыл бұрын

@Nick Maclachlan thanks. I bought a Saris m2. So let's see.

@Engel888

3 жыл бұрын

@Nick Maclachlan yes but apparently it works wthout an app as well. We see