Every battery miter saw should have an ac plug option on the back !

@Protoolreviews

3 ай бұрын

Agreed!

@s2krookie

13 күн бұрын

They designed it that way on purpose. I cant think of why but theres no way the engineers couldnt figure that out.

I went from the Bosch Axial glide to the DeWalt 60v. The DeWalt is much lighter and easier to bring job to job, even with a battery. I like the adjustments on the DeWalt better than the Bosch as well. Both are great, I'd recommend the Bosch for a shop and the DeWalt for jobsite applications.

I have the Milwaukee 7 1/4 I wanted the 10 inch Milwaukee but got the Metabo HPT 36v, not sure why people hate on it so much, actually my favorite saw with hybrid power, just wish capacity was larger,

I've got the Bosch GCM12SD and it's a great saw for carpentry. And I love it for that. But, it occasionally has a small deflection when the arm is fully extended so it's not good for precision cuts. It's a known issue, and I was hoping I was lucky enough to maybe avoid the problem, but alas, I moved over to a Kapex after having to pull out the shooting board to fix a bad cut one too many times. Still (the Bosch), excellent saw.

@tytar1037

3 ай бұрын

Kapex is the way to go for fine furniture making. Although, it’s not really needed if you have a nice big cabinet saw. I use the Bosch in my shop but I never use it for finish cuts. My table saw does better cross cuts. I do use the Bosch to rough cut down lumber before it goes through the jointer. And the occasional miter, but those are rarely used in fine furniture because they make terrible glue joints. Unless you have a Festool Domino or other loose tenon in there.

I'm a dewalt guy But bought a table top and combination miter saw from harbor freight Hercules Has been perfect wouldn't swap for anything.

Interesting that the best selling battery 12" seems to be the Makita 40V XGT, unless I missed something. For the premium price and the fact that it's not in-stores and has to be ordered online, it must be getting a good reputation with finish carpenters.

Nice review. I'll be looking for info as to how is the dust collection on the Milwaukee (or all of them...). The Milwaukee seems to spew out a fair amount.

Gracias 😊

I’m curious as to the measurement the saw front to back fully extended before it touches the wall.

If you don't go over tunabiility, squareness of fence and accuracy of the cuts out of the box, everything else is just opinion-- which doesnt really matter

@jimweisgram9185

22 күн бұрын

For me some other must haves are no extension out the back, excellent dust control. Also probably a couple of items that just won't come to me right now...

I miss the Makita LS1013

Woodworking Beginner: New - Update. This test is only if you want to saw with precision with a miter saw.(test is not intended for rough and hard work). Tips and Test: Read this first before you buying a miter saw! It's better to know than not to know. Important to know if you would like to saw with precision. (avoid torsion as much as possible)! Always choose a Miter saw with a handle positioned in a VERTICAL line above the saw blade. Everything must be aligned, slide rails, handle, and saw blade,it is much better this way the blade will not tilt. Because there is some torsion in the aluminum housing . And choose an engine with softstart on it to prevent wear of the gear and worm shaft. It is very important that everything is aligned. Here are some examples to show how the handle must be positioned above the blade. First option: handle vertical positioned above the saw blade. Bosch gcm 800 sj / Bosch gcm 8 sjl / Evolution rage 3 / FESTOOL KS 60 / Bosch GCM 8 SDE / FESTOOL KS 60 E KAPEX / Metabo KGSV 72 Xact/ Bosch PCM 8 SD / Hitachi C10FSH / Ridgid MS255SR 10-inch / Evolution Fury3-S / Evolution R255SMS / Metabo HPT C10FSBS / Hitachi C10FSB / Hitachi C10FS. Second optie: handle horizontal positioned above the saw blade / Evolution R185SMS / Evolution F255SMS / Evolution RAGE3R255 SMS3 . (This also is the case with the Miter saw without the slide rails). (If you want). You can test it yourself at home if there is torsion in the aluminum housing. Step-1. First you make a saw cut from +-5 mm deep in to a flat piece of wood about +- 20 mm thick to this with the normal handle positioned on the right side of the Miter saw (the wood it will remain in place until the test is completed). Step-2. Then repeat this by pushing the saw blade down with your hand or finger on the aluminum protective cover were the saw blade is cased in. Just now only do this without the running engine. Step-3. Now you can see if the saw blade will be positioned in or next to the saw cut. If the saw blade is (+- 0,2 / 0,5 mm) next to the saw cut then there is torsion in the aluminum housing. (test is completed). Conclusion: Therefor it is much better to choose a Miter saw with the handle positioned VERTICAL in line above the saw blade. The second option is the handle positioned HORIZONTAL in line above the saw blade. Remember this, the test is only about torsion and nothing else how further away the handle is from the saw blade how more chance of torsion in the aluminum housing, you better not go for that. (the choices are yours). Also with a cheap slide miter saw it is still better the handgriff in line a above the saw blade than on the right side. Maybe they will make it someday then we have a winner... P.S. When you measure the vertical 90 degrees angle square (Digital Level Box) of you're sawblade don't forget that there is always some torsion in the aluminum housing..

Borsch🔥💯👍

Xgt Makita is a heavy unit. butt the precision and dust collection is perfect. Ls002 for the job site ls003 for in the shop. I have a kapex 120, dust collection from the Makita is much and much better.

I love my Bosch

Got the hb bauer miter with a milwaukee battery adapter

I really like your unbiased, objective, fair, matter of fact, and MATURE reviews. Keep em coming. 👍

@Protoolreviews

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching! We appreciate you! 🙌🏻

I’m looking into getting my first miter saw. I’m redoing stairs and laying hardwood upstairs, I’ll also need it for crown moldings and baseboards. I look at this as an investment but don’t want to break the bank - what’s y’all’s recommendation

@Protoolreviews

3 ай бұрын

Hard not to like this saw if it fits your budget: amzn.to/3uFqRtH

@MyWitsEnd.

2 ай бұрын

@@Protoolreviewscan confirm. Just started doing carpentry and this is the saw the guy who is training me uses. It has so far had no issues. However the first had a light go out only a month after use but instead of needing to purchase a new light, Lowe’s replaced it. That and a Milwaukee 10” for smaller job sites

@jwatson181

23 күн бұрын

​@Protoolreviews how do you feel about the Hurricane?

Did you say festool do a cordless 120?

@climbjay

2 ай бұрын

He did, and he’s wrong. The Kapex 60 comes in optional cordless. Only a matter of time before the 120 comes in optional cordless too.

Check out the Flex if you haven't already, i think it's supposed to come out tomorrow. 12 in duel bevel $599 bare tool, cordless AND corded option, patented bevel lock system, depth stop, one hand blade change, led shadow line. Was gonna get that Bosch axial glide until i learned my tool brand was releasing one soon.

@Protoolreviews

3 ай бұрын

We've got that one in-house now for testing...

Not complete without including the Makita with it’s compact forward rails and fantastic dust collection.

@Protoolreviews

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for chiming in! We'll check it out! 👍🏻

My friend who finishes multimillion dollar homes with 100% maple millwork swears by the plane jane, non-sliding 10inch dewalt. Says every other saw hes tried always has deflection in the rails and the 10inch blade deflects less then the 12 inch.

What abo3the Hurricane?

You have mentioned Makita's ones, although it's not available on the shelf of those big retailers. Makita 40v cordless, available in 8.5" 10" 12", has the forward rail ( so u can put the saw against the wall), shadow line, and excellent dust collection.

@nathangardner772

4 ай бұрын

The 40v gsl02 is the 8-1/2. It’s my most used miter saw, I have a x2 36 volt 7-1/4, and a corded 12”. The 8” covers most of the bases I need for a daily use ride 😎.

What about the warranty of Festool, not mentioned?

@Protoolreviews

3 ай бұрын

3 years with a 10-year parts-availability guarantee.

Bosch

How do you like the new flex miter saw

@Protoolreviews

4 ай бұрын

We're still getting our first impressions as it just showed up to the shop, but we'll surely publish our opinions when we've got some more hands on time with it!

I've started to notice a trend on this channel. No Makita XGT in head to head comparisons. Why?

@Protoolreviews

3 ай бұрын

Not sure what you mean. We included them in our impact wrench head-to-head and also our hammer drill head-to-head. Plus several individual 1V1 reviews...

I love the Bosch miter saw (the only thing I like from Bosch), but I do NOT like that the warranty is only for 1 Year!? What??? You only back your product for 12 months and yet harbor freight now has a 5 year warranty? That's ridiculous! Bosch needs to get with the program.

Not complete if you dont in the hercules

I work everyday doing custom trim. I don’t understand the battery. No way battery is as fast as a corded saw. Are people working in the woods.

@evictioncarpentry2628

4 ай бұрын

I love the M18 7 1/4. Lasts forever on a battery. I just got it because of quick trim jobs. You know, one or two doors to case. A room of base etc. It's under 30lbs and can use it anywhere real quick.

@tytar1037

3 ай бұрын

I don’t understand either. I take my saw out of the truck, put it on the stand, plug it in. It stays there all day while I work then I take it home. I mean, cordless drills and circular saws, sawzall all make sense. But a miter saw? That’s like a cordless table saw. Just why?

Milwaukee miter saw is the worst one out there

@user-kf8wg7wz4c

2 ай бұрын

Why

@michaelpasta1

Ай бұрын

@@user-kf8wg7wz4c i have it. It is a great saw but the dust collection is truly pitiful even with the strongest vacuum available. the dust boot is way too far away from the blade.

Festool sucks and and the price is worse

@nathangardner772

4 ай бұрын

Sounds like you’ve never tried it

@michaelclark7602

4 ай бұрын

@nathangardner772 But nothing oh I have. I got a buddy. that's a f****** idiot and bought it all. I've tried it all.Ill take my Bosch axial glide over it any day

@riptonedwards9175

4 ай бұрын

Isn't hate a wonderful thing

@michaelclark7602

4 ай бұрын

@@riptonedwards9175 Well, build a better product or give it at a reasonable price. And there wouldn't be any hate

@TheNotoriousMIC

19 күн бұрын

@@michaelclark7602completely depends on what you’re cutting really, you need to be cutting materials expensive enough to warrant it or even notice the difference over a say Bosch which is fantastic in itself. I use my Bosch for most things but only pull out the festool when needed. Usually when I’m doing something expensive and can’t fuck up and it needs to be perfect. Battery operated is acceptable in these situations, loosing power and compromising the cut or worse stalling and destroying it in the process. 😂

Festool or Makita miter saws. Do not bother with the rest

@Protoolreviews

3 ай бұрын

Makita needs to ditch the aluminum miter detent plate though. Gets stripped out after just a few weeks of use and you have to lock down every miter cut.

Dewalts 60v trashes all of these

@brianf9619

4 ай бұрын

ABSOLUTELY 👍 it seems like a lot of KZreadrs hate on DeWalt for some reason and I don't understand why.... 🤷‍♂️

@wessel7972

4 ай бұрын

Use a other brand for 2 weeks and go back to Dewalt and you will know.

@wesgraham9588

3 ай бұрын

Yes They don’t take about

@johnd5542

3 ай бұрын

100% for the job site and when you factor the price, forget about it. And I owned most of the other big names. I do like the makita too, but not the extra $300-400. I need a new miter saw for the shop with small foot print, tight to the wall like bosch. Any suggestions?

@wessel7972

3 ай бұрын

@@johnd5542 the kapex is still a good saw I like the precision. You just know 45 is 45. Butt the price sucks. Bosch I don’t like it, butt depends on the budget and capabilities Dewalt 777 is small and can do almost anything. For that price. Butt it’s not high end saw or precision saw.

I know this is “best” saw out there. I get it. But every time these lists come out, the Capex is always at the top. People, please stop with this nonsense!!! The Capex better make the cuts for you at $1600! It’s in a class of its own. Festool/Snapon/woodpecker are all in the same categories. Best tool if you have money to just piss down the drain. For everything that it does and the price point and track record, the Dewalt DWS780 cannot be beat. Period. Right now it is at Lowe’s/Home Depot/Amazon for $549!

@Protoolreviews

3 ай бұрын

DeWalt is definitely doing something right! It's at the top of most of the best selling lists near the end of the video!

@STXBARNES-fi7ho

3 ай бұрын

@@Protoolreviews I know, I apology! I just have these rants sometimes about Festool! Great power tool company, I just don’t get the pricing.

@lanceyohe6026

2 ай бұрын

The pricing is mostly because it’s not made in China but in Germany where they pay a living wage. It would roughly be the same cost if made here in the U.S. That’s the trade-off. You can buy a No. 4 Lie Nielsen hand plane for $450 or a Wood River made in China for about $200. Made in America Blue Spruce chisels are bout twice what they are outside the U.S. I’m not saying this is good or bad as everyone has their own values, opinions, price point for what they can afford. I’ve got pre-war Stanley tools, Festool, U.S. made, Canada, China, Taiwan, made tools. I still don’t own a Kapex….yet. And this may be where I draw my line and go for a Bosh or Dewalt to replace my Taiwan Grizzly miter saw.