I just leave my trailer unlocked , then wait in the bushes with a baseball bat . Adds a little excitement to camping trips .

@RoughRidersTV

5 жыл бұрын

That is certainly another way to keep your trailer safe. LOL

@willboyd4607

5 жыл бұрын

Until a Grizzley shows up; then there is a lot of excitement (and a lot of excretement 2)

@bobfurlong5195

5 жыл бұрын

Joe, I LOVE IT!!!!!

@kennethhedden1846

5 жыл бұрын

you got that right, who let the Dobies out. Then follow up with an Ethica fully loaded and one in the chamber. Good Times.

@Hoku12

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you, very helpful 😊

On your recommendation (and thanks for the discount code) I just ordered the Proven Industries trailer coupler lock...looks to be the most difficult type for thieves to circumvent. Glad you brought it to my attention...thanks Jay

@RoughRidersTV

5 жыл бұрын

You are very welcome. Thanks for stopping by and leaving a comment.

Got one on my 2018 Keystone Outback 266RB 2018 when I purchased this travel trailer and I have been happy with it ever since. Best coupler lock on the planet.

@RoughRidersTV

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, it is rock solid for sure. The updates to the puck make it even better.

Video starts at 2:46

@RoughRidersTV

5 жыл бұрын

I try to provide reasoning behind what I did and why to help others understand the risks of cheap locks.

@ghost307

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks.

@ralphmitchell3435

4 жыл бұрын

Dang it took me 2:44 to get to your comment.

@calebgibson55

4 жыл бұрын

💪

Thanks for demonstrating these anti theft products and how thieves can simply use chains to mount to theft vehicle. Having small trailer does allow one to more easily take rig with you when out in world.

@RoughRidersTV

6 жыл бұрын

Yes. It is sad that people just don't respect other's property.

In my neighborhood, we have had many trailers stolen. What we have come to learn is that trailer thieves will ignore a tongue lock and steal your trailer anyway. They do this by welding a hook on the end of a receiver. They simply drop the trailer tongue on the hook behind the tongue and they are gone in less than 20 seconds. I have an inexpensive utility trailer in my driveway and it has yet to be taken. This is done by a four tear method I use for locking my trailer. I have the tongue locked. I also have Trimax wheel locks on each wheel. I have also installed lug locks on each wheel and finally I have a Paweg chain going through one of the rims, through the frame shackle with a heavy duty case hardened padlock. Paweg chains are square link chains that can't be cut with bolt cutters. I watched some videos on KZread on these chains and a guy tried cutting a Paweg chain with a cutoff disk and he struggled with it for more than 10 minutes before he was able to cut through it. I have the 3/8" chain. I believe all of this has kept my trailer from being stolen. The Paweg chain is sold by the foot and is a bit more expensive than conventional chain but to me is well worth every penny. Remember, thieves want fast and easy. To get to my trailer, they would have to bring a cutting torch to get through all my locks quickly. Here's a link to the Peweg chain. www.uscargocontrol.com/shop/Rigging-Supplies-Hardware/Chain/Pewag-Security-Chain

@davedoe6445

3 жыл бұрын

you should move to a better neighborhood

@percyfaith11

2 жыл бұрын

@@davedoe6445 Thieves are mobile, they cruise better neighborhoods, duh!

@TheAllang123

2 жыл бұрын

Dear Percy. That’s called humour, with irony. Please explore that at your leisure.

@percyfaith11

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheAllang123 "Dear"? When did we become buddies? Sarcasm is a form of humor too. Explore that, and while you're at it update your obsolete Norman spelling. The Norman conquest was a long time ago. And be snappy about it.

@donnamalinski5780

Жыл бұрын

thank you for this information.

You should make sure your hitch is either welded to the frame or the bolts securing the hitch are welded in place. Friend of mind had his stolen - they unbolted the hitch and installed their own.

That's a great hitch lock and I really like the wheel lock idea too. I saw another video where the owner cut the safety chains off so there were only a few links remaining. He then attached a removable heavy duty chain link to each of the long chains so he can re-connect the chains when he is ready to tow the trailer. He takes the long chains with him whenever he needs to leaves the trailer unattended. I thought this was also a great idea.

@RoughRidersTV

5 жыл бұрын

Yep, every measure of security makes it more difficult for thieves. Sad we have to go through such efforts but better safe than sorry.

@anthonyg1968

Жыл бұрын

The lock for the wheel is a waste of money. All a thief has to do is remove the lugnut and tire and wheel lock come off. Don't buy it, waste of miney

@outbackeddie

Жыл бұрын

@@anthonyg1968 yes, but that’s why he had text in his video saying to be sure to use a locking lug nut to prevent thieves from removing the wheel.

Thanks for a great video. I will be needing to secure a pontoon boat in my driveway and wanted to do hitch and wheel locks. Thanks for taking the guess work out for me.

@RoughRidersTV

5 жыл бұрын

You are very welcome. Thanks for stopping by.

Excellent! Very easy to follow . I appreciate! ... from Minnesota

@RoughRidersTV

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Glad you liked it.

Thank you !I just bought one of these locks ( 8/6/2019) and the discount code still worked.

@RoughRidersTV

4 жыл бұрын

You are welcome. Glad it still works.

@daniel_diaz97

4 жыл бұрын

Same bought mine 12/09/2019 and got $20 off w/ the code.

@RoughRidersTV

4 жыл бұрын

@@daniel_diaz97 Glad to know it still works. I just did an hour interview with their CEO this week. He sent me their latest puck lock to look at and walked me through all the design changes. Good stuff coming from them. I just posted the update on that lock on Sunday.

A smart move would be to install a secure point in your driveway where a heavy duty chain could be attached to the trailer. Also adding an Apple tracking pod somewhere in your trailer would make it easy to find should it be stolen.

@smithnameman5588

Жыл бұрын

"install a secure point in your driveway" this is one of the things I do. It's not foolproof but you'd need to make a whole hell of a lot of noise to cut enough metal and/or smash enough driveway slab to get past the anchor and the boots.

We have a coupler lock, bring the chains in and lock everything up, then we put a wheel lock on two out of the four wheels. We added a Marine instant alarm to each vent, (had a neighbors trailer broken into through the roof vent,), which basically makes an extremely high pitched alarm trigger if the screen is removed. Added a true deadbolt by beefing up the doors surround. We leave base camp feeling our gear and trailer are pretty secure...

@RoughRidersTV

5 жыл бұрын

Sounds like you have done a great job of securing your trailer. Well Done!

Great video, I want to get one of these. Thanks for sharing...

@RoughRidersTV

5 жыл бұрын

You are welcome. Thanks for stopping by.

Very helpful. I had a Proven hitch lock, but didn’t know how the safety chains should be secured. Thanks!

I used to remove tire valve stems in adition to a tonque lock when i had my trailer in storage. Kept a small compressor in van.

@RoughRidersTV

5 жыл бұрын

Yep, good advice for long term storage

@richardcraniumdicksinn3959

4 жыл бұрын

👍

Great video and well done! I had NOT thought about the safety chain issue. Now, I already have a Proven coupler lock, so thanks for the chain idea.

@RoughRidersTV

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment. Yep, when I first bought my teardrop, I was paranoid about theft, especially after seeing all the talk in forums about people losing their trailers. I saw one video where a guy was able to hook up a trailer by the chains and drag it off in less than 2 mins.

@eddiebrown27

5 жыл бұрын

@@RoughRidersTV they just put a chain above your safety chains and gone.

Great ideas. Thanks, Jay.

@RoughRidersTV

6 жыл бұрын

No problem. Glad you found it useful.

...and you have a superb van as well...be very proud, no wonder you protect it! :)

@RoughRidersTV

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks. We do love our teardrop.

I like the wheel locks that also cover your lug nuts. without it, bad guys can use your own spare or any other spare.

@RoughRidersTV

5 жыл бұрын

Agreed. I made that same comment as well. I have locking lugs on mine but those only do so much. It's sad that we work hard for our stuff to only have to worry about low life thugs trying to take it away.

Hey! great video, thank you! Just ordered one & used your discount code. Very nice! Thank you, sir!

@RoughRidersTV

5 жыл бұрын

You are very welcome. Thanks for stopping by and leaving a comment.

I have quick links on both end of my safety chains. When I park the trailer, I remove them completely and lock them in my truck's tool box so they are secured and nowhere near the trailer. I also have both axels chained and anchored to 4' deep by 8" wide reinforced concreat pier under ground. Both the chain and #6 rebar through the concreat are heat treated. An avearge swazall won't even cut through. They will need a torch.

Thank you so much, now I know what to buy, I’m super frightened that someone may steal my trailer.

@RoughRidersTV

5 жыл бұрын

You are very welcome. Thanks for stopping by and sharing your thoughts.

@dh66

4 жыл бұрын

I just bought a lock, going to return it, this shit doesn't work. any thief with a truck, a chain and an angle grinder will quickly get your trailer.

@p.c.h.6721

4 жыл бұрын

BadWolfy I would still be better than nothing, careful!

Great info. Thanks!

Best one Amp lock !

I use two steel link/sleeves with a steel braided core cable locks, Master Lock Cable Locks - Utility Lock - 8218DPS. One for each set of wheels on my car hauler and make sure the lock is behind the rims. They fit loose so it would be a pain and take a while to cut. Each wheel has two egg head style/oval lock nuts. The round smooth head makes it very difficult to use a lock removal tool. All the tool does is scratch the chrome plating and slips off. Yes, my locks are scratched up as my brother and I tested removing them and failure was a good thing. My chains are removable and keep a lock on each holes where they attach. I also welded plates to enclose most of the tongue of the trailer. So the only area to link chains to is the body of the trailer. Making it very difficult to tow it away as you would need very long chains and the tongue will drag. This has worked fined so far.

@RoughRidersTV

4 жыл бұрын

sounds like a great deterrent as well. Nicely done.

In California, CalTrans removes the wheels from their trailer axles when maintaining a stationary signal trailer. I use a large U-Lock and loop it through the wheel holes and through the leaf-spring.

@RoughRidersTV

4 жыл бұрын

Yep, always a good idea to take multiple precautions on securing your gear.

Remove the Safety Chains by cutting them real short and keep them in a safe place either in your Trailer itself or in your Car Boot. Reattach them when Required.

@PatrickBaptist

4 жыл бұрын

Chains are easy to add.

Thanks for the info! Just used the discount code to save $20 on the lock.

@RoughRidersTV

5 жыл бұрын

Great thanks for the update. Good to know code is still working

Drill a hole in the coupling for a substantial padlock. Include the chains when you close the shackle. A ball can't enter a coupling with a padlock in the way. Check lockpickinglawyer videos for performance of the lock shown in this video.

@RoughRidersTV

4 жыл бұрын

Actually, design has changed, drilling a hole does absolutely no good. Check out my updated video to see the current lock designs.

@masksb8095

3 жыл бұрын

Rough Riders

@joewoodchuck3824

3 жыл бұрын

@@RoughRidersTV Why does the hole do no good? Remember, the padlock is in the way of ball entry.

@RoughRidersTV

3 жыл бұрын

@@joewoodchuck3824 I guess I am not understanding where you are talking about drilling a hole in the coupling.

@joewoodchuck3824

3 жыл бұрын

@@RoughRidersTV I would drill a hole just about anywhere the ball would enter. The rear of the coupling is out of contention since no padlock shackle I've ever seen is big enough to span that distance. That leaves the front and sides. Drill as close to the bottom close enough to where the flange/rim is located as needed for the shackle width. Usually around an inch. Hole size is according to the shackle diameter. I hope my description is clear enough. Just think in terms of at least partially blocking the ball entry enough to keep it outside the coupling. Including the safety chains with the lock may help prevent using them to steal the trailer with. Come to think of it, if the chains aren't welded on but bolted instead then they could be removed by you and won't even be there for that pull method at all. Any locking system has vulnerabilities. According to professionals whatever you use is a deterrent without guarantee. If someone is determined enough then what your efforts will get you is time. Time is important to a thief. Hth.

Looks like a secure set up. A quality tounge lock , like yours is a good idea . Disabling wheel rotation is a detourent as well. All we can do is try to keep our trailers ours. Some of these comments are a bit negative & far fetched. Thanks for the video.

@RoughRidersTV

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Thanks for stopping by.

With that chain setup, you have made it easier for someone to hookup there chain and tow it away

@RoughRidersTV

4 жыл бұрын

That assumes they are carrying chains to begin with. No solution is full proof but this is far better than most other hitch locks.

@user-ug9nn

4 жыл бұрын

@@RoughRidersTV remove the chains by un-tightening the nuts

@RoughRidersTV

4 жыл бұрын

@@user-ug9nn actually the chains are welded on the inside of the frame.

One other solution I've seen regarding the chains - is to have them removable. I'm wondering why the puck is aluminum - seems that a reasonable drill bit could go through that easily.

@RoughRidersTV

5 жыл бұрын

Yep the aluminum could be drilled through. I would imagine it would take repeated attempts to get enough material out to beat it. However, they also have a stainless steel puck option as well.

I had one of the yellow reese locks on mine for years until I lost the key. I was shocked as to how easy it actually was to get off. 2 good hits with a hammer

@RoughRidersTV

2 жыл бұрын

Yep, my daughter had that one as well. 3 hits with a 3lb baby sledge and it fell right off.

That lock is more than my deductible.

@RoughRidersTV

5 жыл бұрын

It is on the expensive side but I prefer not to have to submit anything to the insurance company in the first place. It is a hassle to go through all the paperwork, be without a trailer for the months it takes to find another to replace it. It is a hassle dealing with police reports. In my opinion, an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

I run a log chain through my rims and padlock it to my leaf springs. Tires blow out in a mile, makes it easy to find trailer.

@RoughRidersTV

5 жыл бұрын

Yep. I use a different wheel lock on my SxS trailer which essentially does the same thing.

@9tailedfox96

4 жыл бұрын

That's a great idea actually. I can get heavy duty chain and a solid lock for much cheaper than one of these hitch locks. Thanks!

@markwalton16

3 жыл бұрын

Blow a tire out at 60 mph. That won’t cause any damage to your trailer. Duh.

@TJ-qz6hr

3 жыл бұрын

Mark Walton No damage to trailer, the tires aren’t even spinning.

@RGIIIBOXING

3 жыл бұрын

@@RoughRidersTV THAT SET UP....IS NICE...I TOOK A 18LBS SLEDGE HAMMER...& 5 GOOD HARD HITS IT MOVED " 2 MORE HITS ..IT WAS ON THE GROUND"...ALL THESE LOCKS" THESE THINGS ARE MADE TO MAKE PEOPLE SAY..IM NOT GOING TO GET CAUGHT"..IT IS WHAT IT IS..**ONE#1**

Adding a motion sensor alarm that's loud enough to wake the dead would add to the anti-theft package as well. Good video, thanks for sharing this!

@RoughRidersTV

5 жыл бұрын

That is a great idea. Thanks for sharing.

@PatrickBaptist

4 жыл бұрын

Better idea, make it a "hot skin", 110v to the frame will make them not want to touch it again.

@iwannachopbladeslawncare

2 жыл бұрын

@@PatrickBaptist Thought about this but 220v

@PatrickBaptist

2 жыл бұрын

@@iwannachopbladeslawncare 220 will knock em off, 110 will just "grab ahold".

@iwannachopbladeslawncare

2 жыл бұрын

So do a 110 to the frame got it man. Might put that more directly on the hitch side since that's the part they will grab to pull.

You should get the bolts and chasing have a rack weld on them so they can't take that chain off and put another one on

I have one, good stuff

Thanks man. I watched a few of your videos. I have bought the Proven Industries 2178-B. And I'm looking at the Proven wheel lock next.

@RoughRidersTV

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching. The proven locks are solid, really pleased with mine for sure.

@RoughRidersTV

2 жыл бұрын

By the way, someone commented last week that the discount code is still working.

For if you don't 'wanna take the route of cutting your trailer chains and making them removable... And if you don't want to always remember to take your chains with you...

Nice Lock setup a guy could also add Wheel Lock Set for 1/2" Wheel Bolts (2 Locks, 1 Key)

@RoughRidersTV

3 жыл бұрын

I know Proven does have a wheel lock and they will key them alike if you order them together.

You can also keep the slide out and or the stabilizer jacks down which requires the thief to have specific equipment to use. I have a forest service locking gate on my driveway which defeats using bolt cutters and picking the lock. No system is perfect but the more levels of protection you have the least likely your trailer will be stolen.

@RoughRidersTV

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly, nothing will stop a determined theif but the harder you make it, the more likely they are to move on to something easier. Great tip on slide outs and jacks, hadn't thought about that...that would certainly make it much harder to steal.

Great video. Thank you!

@RoughRidersTV

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it!

That is the best hitch lock i have ever seen.

@RoughRidersTV

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, it is a great lock and Proven Locks has been a great company to deal with. I've been happy with it since I got it 5 years ago.

so if you had to by the wheel lock over the ball lock which one would you go with.

@RoughRidersTV

5 жыл бұрын

Hmm, I think I prefer the hitch lock more. The wheel lock is good but does have limitations like must be leaf spring suspension. Must have rims with holes to pass the lock bar through, etc. The puck is also more exposed. I did forget I had it on when I pulled my trailer down the driveway and didn't even notice it. However, the trailer I am using it on is a flat bed 7x12 trailer for my SxS so it is really light when empty. I am sure that if I tried to drive any distance, the tire would blow and it would cause problems and be very noticeable so in that sense it would help protect the trailer. But I still feel that the hitch lock is a better lock.

I knew a motorcyclist who lost the key to his U-bolt motorcycle lock (Kryptonite I think) and he just went into a local hardware store and bough a hand drill and a drill bit, then came back to his motorcycle, parked on a main road, and sat down and manually drilled out the brass key cylinder! This took a surprisingly little time, even for a hand powered drill, and nobody questioned him as to why he was drilling out a lock on a parked motorcycle. The brass cylinder that resists weather and road debris corrosion is also the weakest point of the entire lock! I would consider adding an alarm and/or a hidden tracking device, both of which are relatively inexpensive and with the hidden tracker, can lead to the recovery of a stolen item.

Thanks for sharing, Thumbs Up

@RoughRidersTV

5 жыл бұрын

You are very welcome. Thanks for stopping by and checking out my channel.

It's a nice mechanism to secure the hitch, I would consider using a different puck lock rather than one that uses a standard pin cylinder. Near the top of my list would be the WAR-LOK puck locks has a multi axis key, or perhaps a Cobra 7 puck lock that uses a tubular pin tumbler cylinder. Conventional pin cylinders do not really denture a thief as they can be picked in seconds using standard picks or a pick gun, they keep honest people honest.

@RoughRidersTV

5 жыл бұрын

Interesting. I will look into those locks. Always open to upgrades to make it better. Thanks for the comment.

I use the safety chains twist around trailer jack and handle use 2 locks and I chain down the wheels to axles made a fake one that looks like that one on the video but bigger was easy

I have a 560 on order! what model number Proven Industries do i need. Thanks or the video

I got a Proven lock for our new trailer as we do camp in remote national forest campgrounds. We have never had any issues of anything taken.

@RoughRidersTV

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks. I've never had a problem either but always good to take precautions.

Hi Jay, great video. Do you have any discount coupons for the new trailers?

@RoughRidersTV

6 жыл бұрын

Hello Tanis, Yes, let me know if you need anything. I renamed my channel so all the previous replies were lost.

Thank you for this video

@RoughRidersTV

3 жыл бұрын

My pleasure. Glad you enjoyed it.

Tracking tag, Etched ID on the frame Camera on the site Remove the wheels (like the Highway department does on trailers they leave out.)

@RoughRidersTV

5 жыл бұрын

Yep. Make it hard and they will move on.

A better idea is to have your safety chains held on with bow shackles and remove them and place in your truck when the trailer is set up, A metre of chain and a shackle from the thief could be placed through the safety chains and the thief could still take the trailer. Jimmy!

My tongue took 2 bolts to remove. If there ain't no place to put a hitch, it ain't going anywhere.

@nightsterbob

4 жыл бұрын

Among other tools a savvy trailer thief might have his/her own tongue. Just thinking.

@dh66

4 жыл бұрын

Or just a chain with a hook on each end, one goes into the trailer triangle, the other to your truck

@rbodell

4 жыл бұрын

@@nightsterbob Ever tow a trailer on a chain. Better to push it with a rope. You'll get there quicker. who does that. More likely that guy would bring a helicopter.

What do you think about Proven Industries Couper Lock vs. Ft. Knox Locks Ultimate?

@RoughRidersTV

3 жыл бұрын

Haven't seen the Ft. knox but will check it out.

Excellent video and walkthrough. Thanks so much for posting.

@RoughRidersTV

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for stopping in. Be sure to see the updated video I posted on their locks. They have made some excellent improvements to the lock core design.

Again harden steel with brass lock🤔

Your tongue lock is missing a weld on the outer ring. I don’t know how much that affects the security but I did notice in different images that these housings are inconsistent.

A thief tried to steal my trailer one night last summer and bent my gate in the process. I did have a tongue lock attached and the theft was unsuccessful. I have since added a long thick chain wrapped through both rims with a heavy duty lock and a lock on my gate. I also store the trailer out of sight from the road behind my shed now. Locks do help deter thieves.

@RoughRidersTV

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Sadly there are those that think locks are too easily defeated.

excellent excellent thanks heaps

@RoughRidersTV

5 жыл бұрын

You are welcome. Stay tuned as I have an update video coming as proven industries sent me a new lock to review

Good stuff

Great ideas

@RoughRidersTV

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment. Glad you found it helpful.

I need a lock for my gun case when I fly

Just curious, anyone see what Freon sprayed on housing then hit with a hammer. I like the wheel lock, mostly the multiple locking points. Another point doing something with the wheeled jack stand so it also is unfuncting.

Very good locking devices! I am still disgusted that our country has become this cesspool. We never had these problems when I was a kid. People were decent and honorable.

@danielkinney8166

4 жыл бұрын

Lowest crime rate in 50 years. Everybody believes it was better in the old days that is simply untrue.

@tampamari030975

3 жыл бұрын

Not at all the case. You just didn't hear about it as much. There were no cell phones or social media posts back then, but trust me people were still just as deviant as they are now

@janebray9392

3 жыл бұрын

Travelled 12,000miles, 33 states, 5 months in your USA from 🇨🇦, and met some of the nicest people, helped us out when we broke down off road, where no tow truck would come, I guess staying away from big cities helped! We can't wait to get back!!!🇨🇦❤🇺🇲

@tampamari030975

3 жыл бұрын

@@janebray9392 I'm glad you enjoyed your travels. I think there have always been good and bad people in the world. My point is not that people are better or worse now, my point is that cell phones have brought reality to our screens.

@janmiller9028

3 жыл бұрын

@DavidCoffill Before cars, there were horse thieves and wagon thieves. Stealing is as old as mankind - not a “modern” phenomenon - and, at 70 years old, I can assure you that over the years people have not been any more decent and honorable than people are today.

run a 5/8 chain through both wheels and over axle and get a good 5/8 lock that will be better than any cheap little puck lock i can knock off with a 3lb hammer or drill it out in less than 30 seconds.... tire boots are also a decent deterrent in addition to the chain.

Thanks. Enjoyed the video. What don you think about removing a wheel. A thief would have to bring along a spare to make off with your trailer.

@RoughRidersTV

5 жыл бұрын

I do know some people that do that for long term storage. I am sure it helps as you are right, thieves would have to be prepared with spare tires.

Thanks Jay. Securing my RV was of great concern. Great Video.

@RoughRidersTV

5 жыл бұрын

You are very welcome. Glad you found the video useful. If you do pick up the Proven lock, don't forget to use the code. It's only $20 off but it's better than nothing. and they are a great bunch of folks too.

Put your trailer level on 4 Block then take out the air out from your tire...just don't forget your compressor at home !

You could add a motion sensor with a load alarm. You could also just make the Chains removable with 2 more C clips. Just take off the chains when you leave.

@RoughRidersTV

5 жыл бұрын

Agreed. I've been looking at GPS trackers/sensors as well. My chains are welded on but that is a good suggestion.

@ceh4702

5 жыл бұрын

@@RoughRidersTV I watched another video and they cut off the chains about 2 links down and removed one link. Then they added a clamp to reconnect the chains. Similar to the clamps on the end of your chain. Happy camping.

I just twist my chains around the jack with a massive padlock then took an old ball with the threads ground off and shove it in the hitch and lock it all up with another beefy non-cheap lock. The old ball prevents them from coming in with a smaller ball that will slide over the locked hitch anyway. Ground off threads prevents them from coming in with a ball nut to haul it off. Cheap and effective, pretty much anyone seeing that is going to wander off and find an easier one. But just in case they don't they're going to have ANOTHER massive lock to cut thru once they are on the road cause there's an old metal pot attached to the middle of the axle under it with a beast of a chain all banging away loudly on the pavement. Either have to drop it and run or risk spending 5 or 10 or 15 minutes on the side of the road under it trying to get that off of a freshly stolen trailer they just very noisily took off with 3 houses down.

* Wraps the chain I brought behind lock, above chains, below neck * * hook my chain to my vehicle * * drives away with your trailer * Securing the chains does make it a better lock, but it just adds one more step to the "stealing it using its own chains" method.

@RoughRidersTV

Жыл бұрын

There isn't a lock that can't be defeated. Locks are a deterrent, the greater the deterrent, the less likely they are to steal it. Yes, you can use your own chains but you would have to know in advance and be prepared for those instances. the overwhelming majority of thefts are crimes of opportunity, they are not well thought out, well planned crimes...it's the guy driving by that sees an unsecured trailer and backs up and grabs it. The harder you make it, the more you increase his risk of getting caught, therefore, the more likely he is to move on to an easier target. Any lock, alarm system or security solution can be bypassed with enough planning, the best anyone can do is to make it as difficult as possible so thieves will move on to an easier target.

06:20 The problem with that type of wheel lock is they can simply remove the lug nuts, discard the tire and lock, and bolt on the spare or one they brought along. You need the wheel boot that covers the lug nuts as well as preventing the tire from rolling. The main problem I see with the chain is that it is bolted on. It would be quicker, and quieter, to unbolt that chain and bolt on another to steal it. Many thieves will case the trailer before hand to see what they need to bring to steal it.

@RoughRidersTV

5 жыл бұрын

Yes but at the 06:49 mark I point out that you need locking lug nuts to help prevent thieves from just removing the tire. As for my chain, it is welded on the inside of the frame.

@nathan.brazil780

5 жыл бұрын

@@RoughRidersTV Ahhh ok I didn't hear the part about the chains sorry. Unfortunately most locking lugs are quite easy to get around. Buy the torx sockets (look like a star) and drive them onto the lugs with a hammer and then turn the lugs off.

@RoughRidersTV

5 жыл бұрын

It's unfortunate but yes, they too can be defeated. By layering the locking solutions up, it requires them to have all the ingredients (tools, etc.) to defeat each part of the locking solution. My hope is that the see the wheel lock, see the hitch lock realize that they would spend more time trying to bypass everything, have to make a bunch of noise doing it and decide it is more risk and easier to just go find another trailer not as well protected. I could be wrong but that is the logic I am using.

another anti theft tactic is to own a fugly trailer that no one would want to steal or even take if it as given to them

@RoughRidersTV

3 жыл бұрын

That is certainly one way to address it. LOL

Best option is to move to a state that allows you to carry guns and its easy to get a permit

@PatrickBaptist

4 жыл бұрын

Easy as long as you aren't a felon, but yeah it only cost me $165 and 4 hours to get mine and my state allows open carry, people that live around you will think again when they know you come home armed and don't just have the guns in the house.

Thieves want to "grab and go." If they have to waste time with trailer hitch locks, auxiliary locks, cables through the tires and on the tongue-to-something immovable, tire clamps and so on, they'll be more likely to be caught.

@RoughRidersTV

5 жыл бұрын

Yep, my thinking exactly.

@Proudpapa50

Жыл бұрын

Good point. Thieves are deterred, not stopped unless you are there to greet them. Otherwise, they move on to an unsecured trailer

What about unbolting the chain from the hitch rail ? A thief could just replace your locked up chains for his own loose one. Just wondering.

@RoughRidersTV

5 жыл бұрын

They are welded on the inside of the rail.

@Z-Ack

5 жыл бұрын

Then still couldn’t the thief just bolt on his own if you could unbolt yours? Lol.. my best protection i use is i drilled two lag bolts way down in my driveway with two steel 1” i bolts and on the trailer i have 2 links of a boat anchor chain from an old army ship and both are locked together with 3 keyed locks i had re-keyed to take the same key..

@RoughRidersTV

5 жыл бұрын

@@Z-Ack Yes, there are always ways to defeat any solution. However, if often takes knowing what you are going to need in advance and be prepared to overcome each. Locks are deterrents...the harder it is to defeat, the more likely they are to move on to an easier target. However, if determined enough, a thief will find a way past every security measure in place.

I dont think the additional wheel lock is overkill at all its a worthy addition to slow down the mongrels so you can have more time loading the hollowpoints

I would love to know if there is a GPS tracker that works without a monthly fee and has the range. If any of you have something like that, please post a link.

@ilovecjy1001

4 жыл бұрын

You can hide a toll tag in the frame.if stolen, you can track the toll tag and report to police the number of the car

hitch lock look strong , (chains can be removed by un-tightening the screws), wheel can be removed with the lock so the wheel lock is more a deterrent, is same thing like remove the wheel completely

@RoughRidersTV

4 жыл бұрын

actually, the chains are welded on the inside of the frame. Wheels have locking lugs so they would need to bust the lugs to remove wheel. However, all of this is just a deterrent because any lock can be bypassed with enough effort and h/w.

awesome video thanks man

@RoughRidersTV

4 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it! Thanks for stopping by and sharing your thoughts.

I have both on my trailer, feel they are Great

@RoughRidersTV

5 жыл бұрын

Yep, pretty pleased myself.

I was pretty hot on getting 1 of these...but saw a vid on a gent who had one. The drilled out the key area on the puck in minimum time. His Wheel lock from same co. they could not drill out...it saved his trailer. Now... I am back in thinking mode if worth all thse pesos...

@RoughRidersTV

5 жыл бұрын

Interesting. Have not seen that video. I would agree, if there is a weak point on this lock, it would be the brass cylinder. It is hard to get to since it is on the bottom. I supposed you could drill through the puck multiple times to clear it out. I know they have a stainless steel puck now as well which would be much harder to drill through but still the cylinder would be a weak point. Overall, I think it is still better than nothing or better than the really cheap locks. I have their wheel lock as well and it's not bad, I think the hitch lock is better but nothing is fool proof, that is for sure. Thanks for the comment.

What thieves typically do? They thieve, and they are not normal. I have Crosby chain connectors onboard with ample enough extra chain to reset an anchor or whatever. Leaving one link open to slip a connector in is quite enough to lok-a-loy another chain to. All in all, this does look like quite a good system, so, salute.

Wheel lock was a good idea. The hitch on a dump truck could still haul that trailer with the lock attached.

@robbarber7253

Жыл бұрын

Yeah everyone driving around in a dump truck

On my trailer I've gone as far as letting the air out of the tires then they'll need an air compressor

@kd5you1

5 жыл бұрын

If you can keep the weight off of the tires then it wouldn't be bad, otherwise that will ruin the tires.

@alaska-bornfloridaman

5 жыл бұрын

I lower my trailer on 2 cinder blocks after removing all four wheels with my half inch Dewalt impact in about 10 minutes. Put the wheels in the trailer.

@Artman1

5 жыл бұрын

@Dudester That's the best plan, they need a truck to take it away then.

@PatrickBaptist

4 жыл бұрын

Take the wheels and bearing out and drop it on the ground, way better than a lock.

@user-ug9nn

4 жыл бұрын

@@PatrickBaptist ultimate solution and the best one (just for winter storage,)

I would use removeable tires with built in jack stands.

Did you put the wheel lock on both wheels? I am a widow recently and am on my own to protect my Tear Drop. I have kept your video for when it was time to go on my first camp trip by myself. Thank you for your great information I needed it.

@RoughRidersTV

4 жыл бұрын

Cindy, I am sorry for your loss. I hope adventures in your Teardrop might help you find some peace. As to your question, I only put it on 1 wheel but the more difficult you make it for potential thieves, the more work they have to do to steal it, the more likely they will move on to something easier. Thieves generally look for fast, easy targets. If they have to take more time to defeat locks, it increases their risk of getting caught.

@cindyhall6453

4 жыл бұрын

@@RoughRidersTV Thank you so much.

@RoughRidersTV

4 жыл бұрын

@@cindyhall6453 You are very welcome Cindy. Best of luck to you in your travels. Thanks for stopping by and checking out my videos.

The biggest weakness with the Proven Industries lock is the puck lock that is optionally purchased with it. As the Lockpicking Lawyer showed (The link is at: ​kzread.info/dash/bejne/dYmhrshmh9bYYNI.html)​​ the puck lock has a major fault that takes seconds to enable the lock to be removed with a drill. A better choice would be the Mul-T-Lock TR100 or something equivalvent. Note, the Lockpicking Lawyer rarely recommends a lock and this is one he advises using, with another puck lock instead. The link where the Mul-T-Lock is recommended instead can be found at: kzread.info/dash/bejne/qoqoqsuRYZW6hto.html

@RoughRidersTV

4 жыл бұрын

Actually, that is a really old puck. They have sense updated the puck with several improvements. Unfortunately, the Lock Picking Lawyer did not review the newer puck design. However, I have it here kzread.info/dash/bejne/lHpmlcqtpKmbfLQ.html where you can see the evolution of their puck design.

The one for the wheel you can get one that covers up the lug nuts so they can't just pull off your wheel

@RoughRidersTV

2 жыл бұрын

I've seen those as well and also a good idea. However, they won't work for my trailer because I've got brakes on the trailer and those locks won't work for my setup. Hence I put locking lugs on each lug of each wheel. So they would need to split each lug off and have fresh lug nuts as well as an extra wheel with the right lug pattern.

Harden steel housing aluminum lock🤔. I installed a gps!

@RoughRidersTV

5 жыл бұрын

always good to add more security. I've been looking for a good GPS solution...seems like most require a monthly subscription.

@Pescadora515

3 жыл бұрын

Wouldn’t they be able to remove a gps?

A link or even a name of the products in the description would have been nice.

@RoughRidersTV

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback. I will add it to the video description. I don't belong to any affiliate programs so I don't think to add links and stuff to my video descriptions.

Very good. 👍👍👍

@RoughRidersTV

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you 👍

I'm giving you a thumbs up and a comment thanking you for the video because of all the jerks posting snotty comments. Of course, as you noted, someone with a portable torch could cut off the locks, but someone that prepared is going to get you no matter what. I hope your trailer stays safe.

@RoughRidersTV

5 жыл бұрын

Don Coumbs thanks for the comment and watching the video.

Battery operated grinder will take anything off and of. Also a length of chain you could tow it off lock and all. Save some money buy a normal lock. Probably the best way to secure it would be chaining the axel to something in an inconspicuous way that way when they try to tow x out away it really effs their tow vehicle up mabey large chain anchor to concrete underneath. Wouldn't work at campground but would in driveway where it sits most of the time.

@RoughRidersTV

5 жыл бұрын

Completely disagree. Normal locks can be snipped off with a bolt cutter in seconds. Sure, with enough time any lock can be defeated. However, the longer it takes and the more noise you make in defeating a lock, the greater the risk of being caught. Thieves look for quick, easy targets to reduce their risk. The point of this lock is to make it harder for them, increase their risk so they move on to something easier. This lock does that exceptionally well.

2021 code still works!

@RoughRidersTV

2 жыл бұрын

awesome.

Dam good salesman.. I tell you what.... I want one

@RoughRidersTV

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment. Appreciate the feedback. Note, I don't work for nor do I get paid by either company if anyone buys a lock. I am just sharing how I secure my trailer.