Excellent review. Really informative, processional and unbiased

I have a pair of the RST gloves, which I find are an excellent fit and comfortable, I tend to use them on mid power with a run time of around 2 hrs. So some spare batteries wouldn't go amiss. Overall very pleased with them.

Excellent clear and informative review, the best I have seen on these gloves, thanks.

@mancavemoto

2 жыл бұрын

I appreciate that!

Your reviews are fantastic! Brilliant conclusion 👏

@mancavemoto

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

This is one of the most informative most content relevant reviews I've seen on KZread about any product. You did a good job! And it sounds like if you chose either product you would win and it just comes down to preference.

@mancavemoto

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Jeff, and yes I think you would be happy with either glove

A very thorough comparison / test.

@mancavemoto

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks

Thank you so much for this great review!!!

@mancavemoto

3 жыл бұрын

You are so welcome!

Great video, very informative and unbiased as a Review should be, well done 👍👍👌👌

@mancavemoto

3 жыл бұрын

Thank You

Cheers Tony, gonna buy some Keiss tomorrow thanks to your vid 👍

@mancavemoto

3 жыл бұрын

No worries, there’s a link in the description to the KEIS Store 👍

Thank you for such review! Convinced me to buy.

@mancavemoto

2 жыл бұрын

Glad I could help!

Great review. Thanks, RST’s will suit me fine.

@mancavemoto

2 жыл бұрын

No problem 👍

Reckon if you're riding in conditions requiring the RST on the full heating pos; then riding for much longer than 2 to 2.5 hrs before calling it a day, the will accus should sufice. That's generally my way of winter riding, so I will definately consider replacing my worn outs with the RSTs next autumn. Good on ya, a very good and precise review with all the nessaceries and none of the fluffy talk, thx.

@mancavemoto

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks

Quality review. Thank you sir 🙏👍🙏

@mancavemoto

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Very timely review, I just started shopping for heated gloves after making a two hour ride at 4C with an old pair of snowmobile gloves 😜👍. Might be time to join the 21st century 😆.

@mancavemoto

3 жыл бұрын

Glad I could help!

Brilliant review, thanks 🙏🏻

@mancavemoto

2 жыл бұрын

Cheers

I’ve got the rst gloves + spare batteries for longer trips , their brilliant especially when used with good handgaurds. I’m never going back to heated grips ( you can’t take them with you to new bikes Ps great video 😊👍👍

Really good comparative video. 👍👍

@mancavemoto

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! 👍

I went with Kies701 and on a recent wet and coldish day's riding they were lovely and toasty. Not hot like heated handlebars but comfortable. I combined my purchase with an older model gilet in the clearance sale. Had to buy extra cables to link gilet to gloves. Note if you mix 2020 products with earlier items you will need to get conversion connectors which Kies will send you for free. Great product my only grip is they reset when the engine starts so had to remember to turn back on before riding off.

@mancavemoto

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, I didn't mention that, but the new gloves have a male connector and the older ones were female. Good Quality stuff

Fantastic video. Great job

@mancavemoto

2 жыл бұрын

Cheers

Great review - very clear

@mancavemoto

2 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

nice comparison , thank you

@mancavemoto

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Great video! Thanks a lot!

@mancavemoto

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it!

Kies way to go if the long sleeved jacket is anything to go by....it is fantastic and extends the riding season. I'm looking forward to your review of the jacket to see if you agree!👍

@mancavemoto

3 жыл бұрын

Fingers crossed!

Video appreciated.. I am deliberating between factory fitted heated grips and heated gloves.

@mancavemoto

Жыл бұрын

no problem, spoil yourself and go for both, its amazing!

@dgw1970

Жыл бұрын

@@mancavemoto that's £500!

@mancavemoto

Жыл бұрын

I was only joking, I’m just lucky that my bike came with heated grips!

I purchased some Keis 601 gloves about a month ago, it must have been literally just before the 701’s were launched. I’d agree with your review and whilst the gloves are really effective (mine plug into the heated jacket and are powered from my bike), with no heated grips in really cold conditions at motorway speeds the tips of my fingers cool down (not to unbearable levels but noticeable). To get around this I fit bar muffs when it’s below 3c, and then the only limiting factor for me is rider fatigue, not the cold. Good review thanks 👍

@mancavemoto

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info Andrew. yep the finger tips are always the first to go.

I'm an expat Brit living in the mountains of Mongolia. I ride off-road around my camp.I try to ride year round at temps as low as -20C. I've found 7.4V heated gloves (or liners) to be insufficient. I need a multi-pronged strategy. I use electric glove liners, then off-road glove (Knox Orsa textile in a larger size than normal). This wasn't warm enough and my fingers go numb quite quickly. That shortens my ride to less than I want. So I just ordered Oxford hotgrip wraps and Oxford handlebar muffs. Between this layered approach, I hope to stay toasty, way way below freezing. The video was good except no testing of actually temperatures. These days with thermal cameras or even an old school thermometer, you can actually measure temperature. I think you'll find 12v will heat to a higher temperature than 7.4v. This is just physics.

@mancavemoto

8 ай бұрын

Thanks Martin, sounds like the more the merrier. Its really hard to offer a truly scientific approach to these kind of reviews, its really got to be anecdotal. Its a complex issue and depending on the elemets used a 12v doesnt necessarily heat to a higher temp than 7.4v, but it might heat to the sam temperature for longer. A thermal image camera is a specialist piece of kit with limited use. The cheapest i've seen is £150 on amazon, so you also have to doubt its effectiveness a little too!

It is the cold season in Chiang Rai right now. I've just done a morning run to the Mekong River on the 390. It was probably 25 degrees C.

@mancavemoto

3 жыл бұрын

You can go off people you know ;) lol

Nice comparison Tony. I think if i was buying it would be the kies ones for me as I do more touring than commuting and the hard wired opition is more practical....especially when camping with no charging option. Will Santa be bringing anything special into the man cave this year ? 😏

@mancavemoto

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Darren, its been a pretty meagre year so I think Santa will be skipping the Man Cave this year

Thank you. I ride 20,000 km in Europe every summer and about 10,000 miles per test of year in the USA. In all weather. Every day of every month. Heated grips don’t do it. They keep the undersides warm. I think I’m going to go with the ones that plug into the battery. I already have an SAE lead from the battery for charging battery (I keep it on a charger that strobes the battery 20k cycles per second which breaks up sulfate crystals and extends the life of batteries by twice. I also use it to charge my helmet communicator. I ride up to 17 hours at a stretch. I often drive in the snow. I have no car. I can’t be bothered with two hour anything. I am 75. Keeps me young.

Great review Tony, thank you I like RST stuff more and more It's always well priced, well styled and comes in the big sizes for fat arses like me (I have size 13 hands mind you!) Nice one.

@mancavemoto

3 жыл бұрын

Yep they get a bit of a hard time from some people, but it’s really great kit particularly considering the price point the range comes in at.

Excellent! Just bought the Keis…in May!! 🙄

@mancavemoto

3 жыл бұрын

I take it you live in the UK? ;)

Thank you.

@mancavemoto

8 ай бұрын

You're welcome!

Hi, Thanks for a great review on both these gloves. I am concerned that the Keis gloves with batteries would not go under the cuffs of my wifes oxford jacket, and would therefore allow water to ingress over the top of the cuff. I noticed that Keis have now introduced a shortie version of the 701 glove. These would hopefully overcome the battery difficulty, but would necessitate wiring to her h/vest, or h/jacket. I was wondering if you have a view on this recent introduction at all ? Thanks in anticipation

@mancavemoto

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Robert, the gloves should go over the cuff, but i have got them under a couple of my jackets with the batteries installed. I would say there is almost as much chance of water ingress in either situation. The Shorty version do like a solution for under cuff wear, but i havent tried a pair. You of course can run wires just for the gloves and use a battery pack in an inside pocket?

Nicely presented with valuable content,thank you.JHB-SA.

@mancavemoto

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Hi, good video, just wanted to know if there’s a big difference between the Keis gloves? Should I go for the 601 or 701 in terms of comfort, heat and dexterity? Any thoughts, cheers, Ed.

@mancavemoto

3 жыл бұрын

It’s largely down to the construction, I personally found the 701 a bit more flexible and more resistant in the wet. In terms of heating and warmth, there’s not much between them

damn i came here all set on the RST gloves..... Now i'm rethinking life!

@erroly100

3 жыл бұрын

Keis. all the way for me! Great comparison video!!

Nice!

@mancavemoto

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Hi - great review and I bought the RST. Any issues charging them ? (Connector fit, permanent green charged light )

@mancavemoto

3 жыл бұрын

I’ve only charged them a few times and they worked OK, I did have to wiggle one of the connectors a bit to get it to charge on the last one. There could be a problem there, sadly I didn’t experience it until after I’d released the video so I may have mentioned it

@jezevans8697

3 жыл бұрын

@@mancavemoto thanks for the reply and there does seem to be a few issues with the charger quality. Still waiting for it to arrive so haven’t had a successful charge yet but ‘luckily’ I’m locked down.

I have Savior and like them a lot.

As someone with small fingers - I usually size in at XS - how padded is the palm on each model?

@mancavemoto

3 жыл бұрын

Not a lot of padding on either, which I like. Of the two the Keis is slightly thinner

The RST look more durable with a leather palm. The RST you can get extra battery form other battery brands for 38euros. It is a standard 7.4v with 3.5mm connector.

Hi! Having never used such gloves, how would one wire them when connected to the bike? Would that be under the jacket, up through the sleeve and out to the glove, or are the wires just left dangling about?

@mancavemoto

3 жыл бұрын

Correct. The y lead that comes with the Keis gloves runs down each sleeve so you have a single connection point coming from the bottom of your jacket.

@SsiolisP

3 жыл бұрын

@@mancavemoto much appreciated. Take care.

I bought a pair of the keiss G601 gloves. The battery packs are unobtainable or I'd use the battery packs for short journeys. The cable harness is the biggest niggle, it's just awkward to have in the jacket. The index screen wipe is just too short to be practicable. GPS use isn't good. In saying all that - it's really good to have warm fingers and makes up for the unwieldy cable.

Just bought a pair of the RST's and went walking the dog, only got 45 mins on the high heat? Also when I plugged them in the light on the vharger was red for 1 minute then it went green, does green mean they are charged surley not after approx 5 mins??

@mancavemoto

2 жыл бұрын

It doesnt sound like they were fully charged? Some people have commented that they have had issues with the charger, so it be worth speaking to RST?

Hi, great video. Can i ask how the keis gloves work connected to a keis vest without sleeves

@mancavemoto

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, yes sure, you just run the cables up the sleeves of your jacket and the pug into connectors in the armpit of the heated vest.

@Theorangeman.

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate

I just received a set ( didn’t buy any batteries yet ) hooked them up to the bikes battery and the top of the fingers are cold. Only from the knuckles back to my wrist nothing from the knuckle protector forward over my finger has any heat with the gloves turned up full. How are your gloves at the fingers ? I’m trying to work out if mine are faulty or if they only heat the middle back of the hand. Lovely gloves and fit great so I’m hoping mine are faulty and can be swapped out.

@mancavemoto

3 жыл бұрын

They don’t sound as if they are working correctly, I’d send them back or drop an e-mail to Keis

@NorrieChristie

3 жыл бұрын

@@mancavemoto done both of that today and waiting for replacement. Did you find the back of the fingers as warm as the back of the hand ? What I can say is they are incredibly comfortable and well made. I was surprised how thin they were very comfortable.

@mancavemoto

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, the heat seemed to be pretty even to me, although all the bikes I’ve ridden in them have some form of handguard

Could you please tell me how is the sizing comparing to rev'it itf you had them? By size guide i would need L or XL, and I have XXXL revit 😅. I'm a big guy with long fingers, so it makes sense to me to take XXL, but size guide doesnt say so..

@mancavemoto

6 ай бұрын

I would say slightly more generous than Rev'it, although i've not tried their heated gloves on

@RaAlby

6 ай бұрын

@@mancavemoto thanks a lot! I find Rev'it a bit short fingers (not heated tho, but tried a lot and I own some summer touring), so I guess these will be perfect 👌🏻

What motorcycle were you riding in the video? I don't think I had seen handlebar controls like those (bicycle rider I am, I might miss a lot).

@mancavemoto

3 жыл бұрын

It’s a Honda Africa Twin

@KKhhoorrnniittee

3 жыл бұрын

@@mancavemoto Thank you.

I did notice the glove is a male fitting as is the battery pack ? Do you need to buy an adapter or does it come with the gloves ?

@criticalcuda

3 жыл бұрын

My Keis jacket is a male fitting so the gloves will not plug in unless an adapter comes with them ?

@mancavemoto

3 жыл бұрын

The gloves come with a suitable female y lead. If you want to connect the new gloves to the old jacket KEIS will supply you with adapters. FOC as far as I’m aware.

@criticalcuda

3 жыл бұрын

@@mancavemoto that’s what I need then as just purchased some 701s 👍

I have gone for the RST £149 in the sale with the batteries. The RST batteries are £89ish on their own plus the gloves are over 200quid

@mancavemoto

Жыл бұрын

Thats a good deal!

Had both. The RSTs overestimate how long those batteries last and the time is depleted after a number of recharges. Keis probably overestimate too. But I prefer the Keis wired in

Hi Tony, Do you think there is a glove out that will keep my fingertips and thumbs warm around 5c without heated grips? I don’t want a gloves that I have to connect to my battery. To much faffing with wiring and plugging in and out. Cheers, Jamie

@mancavemoto

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Jamie, Theres a lot to choose from, but really hard to guarantee that theyll work for you. The Knox Zero3 gloves were warm, but i found them a bit thick (I prefer thin palms), I've recently worn some Triumph Rutland GTX gloves and they were a good mix of warmth and feel, I must admit they did surprise me. What about heated gloves with batteries in the cuff like the RST paragon 6? What size hands do you have?

@jjnewman65

2 жыл бұрын

@@mancavemoto Hi Tony, I will investigate the Paragon 6 further. I was tempted with the Gerbing XRPro but with the 12v battery packs for the cuffs you are looking at close to £300! That’s too much as I am not commuting. Thanks for your help.

@mancavemoto

2 жыл бұрын

@@jjnewman65 you can always try mine if you like?

@jjnewman65

2 жыл бұрын

@@mancavemoto Bless you sir. Very kind. However I bought the Paragons via SportsBikeShop Harlow who priced matched them to £160 from £180. I took a ride today to Blake House to visit Armadillo Customs. The gloves performed adequately in temperatures between 2-5c. My fingers certainly weren’t toasty on a two hour round trip but they did just about neutralise cold finger and thumb tips on the high setting. The light settings did start flashing low on my return. So I got 2hrs out of them. They are back on charge so perhaps it takes a few charges to get the batteries fully juiced? I think they will be fine for my needs which is occasional winter social rides. 👍🙏👍

I just bought the Keis 701's last week and tested them yesterday in a 200 km log cold ride(5/6 degrees) What I can tell people is; They are not THAT warm, once under 5 degrees you need level 3 to heat,I can imagine not being warm enough around 0 degrees(certainly without heated grips witch I had onion my gs) The palm protector is extremely annoying, you always feel the pressure of that plastic thing. The knuckles,are hurting after 45 minutes(and I have small fingers) They do feel comfortable, but I regret I bought them

@mancavemoto

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for commenting your feedback... I found the heat fine, I have been using these on a bike without heated grips and they have done the job. I guess it will vary depending on peoples difference in cold tolerance? I've never felt any pressure from the thin grip on the palm. Likewise the knuckles, so this could be a sizing issue?

How are these as summer gloves?

@mancavemoto

3 жыл бұрын

Warm...seriously though they will be ok up to high teens maybe 20c before they get too hot

The build & fit on the G701's are very very good but that's sadly where it ends. The main heating element is on the back of the hand with the other elements running to the knuckles. Your finger tips remain cold, a real school boy error by Keis at £200 too.

@mancavemoto

Жыл бұрын

The main heating element for any glove would be on the back of the hand as thats the largest surface area. I found that the heat radiated down to my finger nails, which would suggest the finger elelemts run further than the knuckles.

@markjenkins905

Жыл бұрын

@@mancavemoto riding in town or below 40mph these gloves are okay but not at highway speeds that's why I had to buy handlebar muffs too.

I need one that doesn't have to be charged on the bike. I ride an e bike and not a motorcycle and don't want to buy a pair I can't even use. Can you please help me find a good one? I cried on my porch the other day because my fingers were so frozen, I physically could not make my key work in the lock. Every time I ask for advice for heated gloves, people give me other answers. I WANT HEATED GLOVES, not something else. I got a pair, and they stopped working within two months of purchase. I NEED HELP. But I'm scared these ones might charge by plugging into the motorcycle. You seem like you know what you're talking about, can you please help me

@mancavemoto

2 жыл бұрын

Both of these gloves can be run from either batteries in the cuff, or a powerpack inside your jacket. The RST ones come with batteries and in fact that is the only way to power them. The KEIS rerquire the batteries to be bought separately, It's all in the video. For your scenario the RST ones would be the one to go for, but for cycling I'm sure there is a lighter weight version out there

can't find the RST gloves for love nor money!

@mancavemoto

3 жыл бұрын

I think the initial stock that went out sold through quickly and the next batch have been held up with the chaos at the ports? The Visor Shop look like they have some in stock?

@TheNonsenseAdventures

3 жыл бұрын

@@mancavemoto yep, sportsbikeshop had some but seems to say price is back to full and can't choose any sizes. Lets hope stock comes back soon, J&S are selling the old ones for full price

How can you have a meaningful heated glove review when you don't include Gerbing the market leader. I've tried Keis and didn't get on with them too cold when compared to Gerbing and I didn't like the connectors.

@mancavemoto

6 ай бұрын

This is just a comparison between two gloves, not a group test.

@bampie1

6 ай бұрын

@@mancavemoto No the title of the video is "Best Heated Gloves" not a comparison between two glove manufacturers so the expectation is that they are reviewing the best two heated gloves on the market which they are clearly not.

@mancavemoto

6 ай бұрын

@bampie1 No, the full title is ‘Best Heated Gloves RST Paragon 6 vs KEIS G701’ it’s a shootout between these two, no suggestion it’s What’s the best heated glove on the market.

heated grips or heated gloves? pick one :P

@mancavemoto

3 жыл бұрын

Why not have both!

@twowheelsoneleg5672

3 жыл бұрын

I prefer heated gloves as I find heated grips only warms one side of my hands, however the best winter set up I ever had was heated grips with waterproof handlebar muffs. Looked dreadful but very toasty

@redjacc7581

3 жыл бұрын

@@twowheelsoneleg5672 cheers

Im sending my batteries back! I like the gloves but I was sent batteries with male connectors like everyone else including the female to female connectors. The proper batteries should have female connectors so they fit properly over the male connectors on the gloves and perform a waterproof seal, with the female to female connector attached this is not the case. I can understand if you can get your jacket sleeves over the cuffs of the gloves then you might be ok but for the price of the gloves and batteries it just looks like a bad bodge job to me especially as the cable has to come out of the waterproof zip on the gloves! I was told by Keis that the proper batteries will not be available until winter 2021.

@mancavemoto

3 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure why the changed the connections?

Most important to have toasty fingies 👍🏻

@mancavemoto

3 жыл бұрын

Indeedy. Merry Christmas to you and yours Dave

Keis aren't really a bike glove, not much protection at all, they're really a winter ski or snow mobile glove.

@mancavemoto

Жыл бұрын

Yet they are CE rated……