dying laughing over here... "It's like a BL Touch, but the BL has been replaced with a CR" hahaha

@Kalvinjj

2 жыл бұрын

Funny enough, as identical as they perform, the CR one does it completely differently in therms of the electronics: it uses an optical sensor instead of the Hal effect one of the BL Touch, being thus much less prone to interference.

@OrwinSantaCruz

2 жыл бұрын

I like the CR touch more. It doesn't feel as flimsy as the BL which is normally fine but my Sovol SV03 has bent the needle somehow twice on that. With the CR being a direct drop in replacement, it hasn't had that issue and being slightly bigger, the z offset was almost perfect whereas with the BL, you had to send a command to allow offset in the negative to get a proper level. So while it's simple to say it's just a knock off, it's better imo.

@CASSDesigns

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly pretty good description lmao

@joshua2400

2 жыл бұрын

Jesus Christ the good lord loves you all :" )

Great summary as always. But like I stated in my review, for that price it should have an all metal heat-break not PTFE to the nozzle. You realistically only get 235°C max long term as PTFE will degrade. For all metal you have to spend $70 more for the S1 Pro.

@Quad_Father

2 жыл бұрын

Can the heat break be replaced with an all metal one instead of replacing the entire assembly?

@3DPrintSOS

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. I guess they were really hoping to delegate that function to the Pro specifically.

@Fisheiyy

2 жыл бұрын

@@Quad_Father no

@Quad_Father

2 жыл бұрын

Fisheiyy why?

@jamesmoe

2 жыл бұрын

Its really too bad. An all metal hot end or heat break would have made this the shizzle. Not seeing value without it.

The s1 is my first 3d printer and It has made amazing prints for me right out of the box. I have printed the boaty and many other calibration type things and all of them came out pretty much perfect with stock settings and the pla filaments I bought to start with (overture brand). I printed a few articulated toys and they worked perfect first run. So far its way less of a pain than I was expecting it to be, very happy with it.

@osamabinlaggin139

Жыл бұрын

How is the 3D printer holding up for you? I’m looking at getting one as my 1st printer

@ici36

Ай бұрын

How's it holding up?

Have had the S1 for almost 2 months now and for the most part it does well. I did have an issue with the z offset that resulted in the stock bed taking some damage while trying to tune for petg. I've since replaced it with a rough and smooth pei flex sheet and both of those are working well. Note: features like pressure advance were disabled in the firmware and to avoid the constant back and forth of updating firmware, I switched it over to Klipper. Since the S1 is so new there were few resources to help with this, but it was worth the effort. It did highlight one issue, and this just might be my S1, but the USB-C connection drops sometimes. I've tried different raspberry pi's and different cables and the only time i have an issue with any of them is on the S1. I've never lost a print because of this, but sometimes it can take a few minutes to get it up and running. My plan is to replace the controller board with a BTT Pico if it gets any worse. Also, for taller prints, the nozzle would start hitting the previous layers. I ended up loosening up the vertical supports, clamping them in place with a couple squares, re-tightening things, and that appears to have taken care of it.

great review! 👏 ..if it only had full metal hotend at this price.. but I guess would be harder for them to market the S1 Pro then 👀

@Jakeypoo-di6hy

9 ай бұрын

What is normal percent For X, Y and Z ?

Fantastic printer - beats the heck out of my old Ender 3 pro. It really makes 3D printing practical. Super quiet, great UI, awesome bed adhesion, outstanding cable management, excellent print quality and very easy setup. I was printing in less than :20 minutes. Best investment I made in 3D Printing. Thumbs up!

I love my S1 so much. I've had it operating almost 24/7 for the past month. I exclusively use mine for tabletop gaming scenery pieces so I have only been using PLA at 200/60 with 5%-50% infill depending on what I'm doing. I've been using pretty much the cheapest 10kg at $13/kg PLA+ available through it and haven't had a single issue with it that took longer than 15 minutes to resolve.

@isaackvasager9957

2 жыл бұрын

Source for that filament? Brand?

@BeyondBeleaf

2 жыл бұрын

@@isaackvasager9957 I too would like the sauce for that filament.

@Mawyman2316

2 жыл бұрын

@@BeyondBeleaf I too am curious.

@scatdawg1

2 жыл бұрын

We are collectively curious

@shepahotep

2 жыл бұрын

Sorry everybody I never received notifications from this comment. The company is GST3D.

I have one. I can honestly say that I love printing on the S1. It's my first printer and I did a lot of research on KZread before deciding on buying. The second runner up was the FLSun speed racer. I wanted a delta printer, so after I attained perfection with the S1, I bought the FLSun. I could not be happier with these two printers. The FLSun is a fast, accurate, and amazing printer to watch. The S1 is just about as good as it gets. I do have to say, that the FLSun SR is especially nice because of the fixed bed. There is no need to level the bed, and one auto bed leveling operation is all you need to do. But getting back to the main topic of the S1. The S1 is worth the money and it's a beautiful piece of technology. I love direct drive extrusion too.

@moonstryder1740

2 жыл бұрын

S1 for a 1st? Damn you went in swinging. I hope you're enjoying it

@ricardo-iw9sq

2 жыл бұрын

I've been in the same boat, watching and watching loads of reviews and researching and was about to pull the trigger on a prusa, but then saw the fl sun Sr and thought yes then saw the s1 and thought oh and now waiting for the s1 pro to come out, there were others in the line up but couldn't put a nail in the all rounder it's a nightmare trying to choose for a newb that wants to print and not continually tinker and up grade, those deltas look uber cool 👍👍

I have the original Ender 3 and have printed hundreds of things on it - this version looks so clean and awesome from the start. Thanks for the video!

@Grimmwoldds

2 жыл бұрын

It's also over 400 USD. Creality is great at 200 USD, it's a bad buy at 400+.

@nmfireman

2 жыл бұрын

I’ve had mine for a week. And I’ve had all kinds of issues. Run out sensor will not work when connected to raspberry pie. They asked me to do a firmware update it will not update. All the sudden it totally quit printing altogether so I’m playing a cat and mouse game with Support kind of a pain in the neck. It would’ve been nice if they would’ve told us the pro version was available when I ordered this one last week but now they did not. Back to my Prusa

@tommychiletti8506

2 жыл бұрын

@@nmfireman out the box its worked good for me so far ,had it for three weeks,after so many hours the metal board didnt hold prints as well,got the glass from creality,that lasted three days and started crapping out,I know there's a handful of variables to watch for, definitely woulda bought the pro,this is my first printer,

@DoctorrMetal

2 жыл бұрын

@@tommychiletti8506 If you ever take it apart, be carefull not to break the small wires coming out of the heater block. (thermister wires). I was doing some testing and wasn't carefull enough. Now I need to replace my heater block and with no spares to find its just a pain

@nmfireman

2 жыл бұрын

@D L What the hell are you talking about making anything up. I do love my Prusa and I also like my S1 one but we are having issues when we use it in Prusa slicer. When I start a print up if I don’t warm up the bed and nozzle first it will not print a purge strip. I don’t think the G code is exactly set up for the slicer I was asking for help on this. Why don’t you offer suggestions instead of BS

I have a quite modified Ender 3 Pro and I'm quite happy with it. I'm looking forward for the S1 Pro that can print hotter and includes a PEI metal flex plate. The mods in mine makes it able to print nylon, but the S1 Pro seems like it would be more straightforward

I’ve had my 3S1 for about 2 months now and am SOOO happy I lucked into this as my very first experience with 3D printing.

I have had my s1 for a bit now as my first filament printer, I have had a few years with resin. The only stuff I know about filament going into it was a handful of KZreadrs. Alright out of the box the thing prints amazing. Once I switched from creality slicer to actual cura (for tree supports). I have done all kinds of stuff so far including some print in place stuff and it has been absolutely great. Only complaint I have is that it is that it is kinda hard to remove support filament from the build plate, but I'm guessing that is an inexperience issue more than a machine issue.

Great review and I totally agree! I love hitting print and it just prints, no worries. I am about to put a pei sheet on it myself because I'm not a huge fan of buildtak surfaces, as they do crap out after a bit. Keep up the great work!

I am completely new to 3D printing and that flexible bed made me feel like I was Insane and couldn't get the bed level. Finally realized it was the flexible bed and slapped the glass it came with on there and it's been perfect ever since. Love this thing

Indeed I think it's a great printer, well thought about it by Creality, I think that the S1 Pro is even better/more improved. I do look forward to get my hands on this printer. Great video Joel

I have been a very happy user of the Ender 3 V2 and I'm stoked to hopefully get an S1 sometime in the near future.

I was waiting for your review now i got a new ender thanks to you happy printing:)

I can't wait for the Prusa XL video!! I've got one pre-ordered myself! 👍😁

Great review Joel. I just wrapped up shooting my review last night and it’s hilariously similar in thoughts. Haha. Only difference is mine got a bit damaged in shipping. But that’s irrelevant to the actual machine. This is a solid “benchmark” in this price range.

Great review Joel. I hope that Creality extend the upgrades from the 3 S1 to the other bigger models.

Totally agree with the bed surface comment. I have upgraded our S1's with the double sided PEI...they work "preety freaking" fantastic, currently putting the Build Plate from Wham Bam through its paces. Your fan comment is right on the money.... call me OCD but we clean our fan every 100 hours or so since our machines are running pretty much 24/7. Now if they only had Silicon Socks in stock for the South Pacific that would be nice. We did change a few settings for our PETG and carbon filament requirements, other than that we have only come across one issue...two of our machines bed plates will not heat up to the edges arrrrgh!!!!!!! that seems to be fairly common talking with others across the globe with the early releases; but realistically those sized and shaped prints are few and far between for us. Keep up the great work Joel, Sean and David.

Even my ender 3 from 2018 worked really well and was quiet. I can only imagine how good this version is.

Having one (my first 3D printer) I would say that NOT having a touch screen is great! The knob is fast, precise and - best of all - tactile! E.g. When adjusting z-offset I don't have to look at the screen. One minor gripe though; when moving between icons with the knob, I would have liked the the icon selection order to be go going round like an O; the 'Z' jump movement always surprises me. But. eh, whatever. I also like the SD-Card. Good thing they didn't do a micro!

absulately love you joe keep doing what you do

I've been looking into this because it has auto-bed leveling! great review!

I am at the 3d meet up in sweden right now

I was considering this one today, but this sold me. Thanks, I’ll be buying the S1 and laser too… I’m excited to try some basic laser engraving and see if I might invest in a Glowforge or something in the future.

This review is very helpful👍👍

Great review. Subscribed.

LOVE mine. Absolutely love it. $hits all over my Hemera on my cr10 pro with bltouch. All I am waiting for is the high temp heatbrake I ordered from creality so I can get back to printing my high temp filaments.

Cool video! I'd love to know if you have any fine-tuned settings that are a must? I really like my Ender 3 S1 so far; picked it up maybe a month and a half ago from Micro Center for $399. I haven't done any sort of major prints on it just yet, just a few figurines here and there but that's kind of what I want to do with it anyway. I figured I'd probably be spending the same amount of money getting an Ender 3 Pro and some upgrades opposed to the S1, but given my limited experience I've found the S1 to be great as I go through my first roll of Inland PLA+.

Thank you so much I’m new to 3-D printing and I will be buying this printer

I have an S1 it's my first 3d printer and it fulfilled the reason I wanted it over the cheaper Enders at Microcenter, the easy set up. HOWEVER, I have had bed adhesion and tolerance issues. Also I accidentally set my first print too close and some of that first layer is still stuck in the texture of the build surface. Edit: Upon rewatching I remembered that the fan is also a concern of mine, I wish it cooled from multiple sides.

got one as my first printer, have put about 4kgs through it now and still love how it performs. ordered the pro hotend from creality as an upgrade. the only issue i have had is the bed not being relatively flat. on small prints it wasnt a problem, i could usually move the location of the print around to find good adhesion. but on bigger prints even with the auto leveling i would have some localized hills where the nozzle would make ghost lines and other areas where the filament would just pop right off. i have had to use a lot of rafts. the other issue is the little spatula that comes with it, mine was stamped metal and no burs were removed. i didnt inspect the tool and on first use trying to separate a part from the bed gouged a line into it. i havent used it since and havent even needed something similar because everything releases well with the spring steel. why even include it if the cheapness makes it a danger to the very product it is supposed to be used on. any suggestions for a bed upgrade? i love the ease of the spring steel type but if it means having a much flatter surface i might try glass.

@ColdSig

2 жыл бұрын

Glass would resolve your bed lumps issue, but you'll have to fuss with glue sticks or hairspray whereas my regular ass flexible mat hasn't needed a spray-down/wash in... months. My bed is uneven in the center - a piece of tinfoil underneath solved it, now adhesion is *too* good.

@mrsamot4677

Жыл бұрын

@@ColdSig tinfoil is Genius holy

Great video! My dremel 3d20 is finally starting to die, now it’s time to decide on whether to get the ender or the Neptune. Thanks for the info .

Thanks for this review. I currently own a Ender 5, which is a great machine by all means. But it is also really bulky. I'm looking to change to a more compact machine with similar volume and so far my eye has been on the Ender 3 V2, the Ender 3 S1 and for a bit the CR6 SE but the reviews on that one has been spotty so far

Really good review!

Thanks for your thoughts on the S1. I’d love to see you do a video on making the S1 work with octoprint with all the stuff like filament loss working.

@TH3DStudio

2 жыл бұрын

We have that all working correctly with our firmware + LCD kit. We fixed all the issues with the software that Creality couldn't do: kzread.info/dash/bejne/gpyDq5mck9CdaLg.html

At around $400 will love to see how it compares to a prusa mini as they are pretty close on price. Sure, it is not as large, but it has an all metal hotend as well as the PEI bed and the amazing support from Prusa. I wonder how it will stack up.

Really happy with my S1 ❤ prints like a champ and easy to get around!

i got my ender 3 in august as my first printer and it worked great right out of the box

I picked one up as my first real 3D printer. Thank you for the review!

I got my S1 a month ago, for a bargain at £299.99 which was a saving of £110. I am having a bit of trouble now with bed adhesion, what build plate would you recommend as an upgrade i like the spring steel one that come with it but as you say it seems to wear out over time, or a good spray on adhesive i could try to get a bit more use out of the one i have. Great show👏👍😎🇬🇧

I have an Ender 3 V2, and an S1, and the S1 though more expensive gets a lot more work from me now than the V2. For me, it's just a lot more polished and requires a lot let maintenance.

Looking to purchase my first 3D printer, and I know absolutely nothing about them... however, the multiple videos I've seen, it looks like this might just be the best beginner printer for me. Thank you for sharing your knowledge on the subject.

Thank you Joel! These low-cost printers are certainly getting dialed in…..but I ordered another Prusa kit❤…..which never need any necessary tweaking from print No1😎

I've got a 5 year old Cr-10S that I love. I will keep it until it no longer works, but I do want a second, updated machine. I'd prefer to go no smaller than 300x300... I'll still keep this in mind though!

I really liked this review, could you compare it to the Anycubic Vyper in the future because it is one other 3d printer I am considering.

I wonder if turning the fan upside down would help? But then the air would be going over the extruder motor, that often gets pretty toasty too... but it still might help!

Short and sweet, thank you!

I have one and yes I did replace the bedsheet. So far I have a problem where the back right of the bed is lifted so far that when I changed the nozzle to the ruby and had to reset the bed I noticed it. The fan has sucked up some stuff but it's okay. I wish that the fan duct was a full circle setup or even offer different setups. I would love to see this on the Ender 5 Plus or even the Cr 10, or even have this as a DIY upgrade system for other printers.

FINISHED! there is a line I have NOT heard in a printer review in a while....

Thanks for the review. Just ordered an S1 some days ago and can't wait to start working with it. Is there a recommendation you have on a replacement build plate?

@user-sn5yv9ke8f

11 ай бұрын

Id say pei

Ended up here looking for S1 Pro review but S1 review was great enough. Certainly getting my first 3D printer. Gonna be an exciting journey. GG Content.

A while back you review the CR-X 3D Printer did you ever review the CR-X Pro . Did they listen to your advice? They added the BL touch like you wanted did they fixed anything else? Have you reviewed other dual extruder printers?

I'm using the original spring steel sheet, but not the original surface. I ripped the coating off and replaced it with a PEI sticker. It's amazing. Took way too damn long though. Mine never got to the point of bad adhesion, the cat test print stuck so well that it took part of the surface off with it.

Super helpful 😊

Nice revue! What abuot the new S1 pro, will you make a revue of that also? ( I hope so!) 😉

Should I get this one or the pro version ???? I see them both on Amazon $100 difference, thank you for your help

I just got mine on 15th, and gotta say it's amazing!

I can confirm that the Slice Engineering Copperhead g2 bimetallic heatbreak is compatible with this printer. They go for about $35 on Amazon and I would highly recommend it as a first upgrade. I would also recommend against buying a clone as the machining required to make a bimetal heatbreak work properly is super precise.

A friend of mine picked up the s1 and loves it. I have an ender 5 already or I'd be looking at getting one too.

I like the machine, I have 5 of them. However, after 4 months of intensive use they started having problems, but the hardest part is to figure what is happening. Accessing extruders, nozzle, and so on is hard, takes time and replace the whole kit as a quick alternative will cost you at least $100. If I compare this machine and an original CR10 for intensive budget printing, I'd choose 100 times the original CR10. I have 2, after more than 5 years I just replaced the extruder kit and updated the bed. I know, the CR10 is ugly, bulky, and looks cheap but it's just reliable, with great quality and it's easy to fix. Once you level this thing you won't need to do it again. The S1 is a great design probably the best, in my opinion for light use but if you need printing large quantities, long term, this isn't the machine. If you still want to it because, I'll recommend paying for the insurance so you can replace it. I've replaced two of them already after 4 months of work and probably I'll need to replace another two this week. I have other machines industry grade, more expensive ($.1.2K) and the one that has given me the less problems is that cheap CR10 🤔.

Thanks. But what about two things respecting its maintainability and upgradeability: 1) what heatbreak it uses (PTFE passthrough or fullmetal, and what type - some standadrd or something new)? 2) What about stepper drivers and MCU - is all of them 2208 and what abou LA support? Does MCU have enough flash space to enable LA (256 or 512 kb)?

I have the s1 pro, it's pretty much the same except the build plate is more of a bronze color and really aggressively textured. I've run it for about 80 hours continuously now and the only adhesion issues I had were while tuning it Initially. I've found that the cr touch is kinda unreliable as you'll find yourself having to mess with the z offset every time you try to use auto level. Though not just with this printer specifically, I've found myself not setting offset with paper but just by eye. I also turn the knobs and guage the nozzle gap by eye as well. I don't recommend doing this if you don't have a calibrated eye. You'll know when you get one, takes alot of experience in metrology.

Got mine a couple of days ok. Incredible upgrade on my E3V2. Like he said - build plate isn’t great and will get a pei plate sound. Well worth the £319 I paid.

Have you tried cleaning the print plate with 90% or higher concentration IPA? That works really well to rejuvenate my textured print surface although it's not that printer. I suspect it is cleaning out clogged pores. I print PLA only so I don't know how it might work with other materials.

I said this a couple times but now I think I'm sure, this will be my next printer. I've had all the ender 3's, except this one, and right now I have the ender 2 Pro and CR6SE, which is almost the same, but I think I want direct drive for TPU.

Had my 3 S1 for a month or so. Is there a way to show on the display, layer numbers? great videos. regards

Very subtle "It works, untill it do not!". I did actually lol.

From 4:17 on, exactly why I'm not going for Creality anymore. I did learn a TON from the previous models, as they indeed needed not only mods.... but MODS! :) There's always something I have to throw in the bin (in this case the sheet and maybe a redesign of the fan) and I just don't like that. With the experience I'm just saving up for something better.

Hi! Thank you for the information; I am thinking about getting one, I have never used a 3D printer before, and I have a few things I would like to know if I can use my own 3D files with this printer. Thank you.

I was looking at this printed and also the Ender-3 V2 Neo 3D Printer. It looks like for $50 this is better. If I get one would you recommend the S1 or for the extra money S1 Pro 3D Printer? This will my first 3d printer and I want one that i don't have to upgrade out of the box.

I have a Ender 6 SE over a year now. And it has been awesome.

Thanks was literally trying to decide if I should get the S1

That comment at the end about it being in big box stores really got me because that's how I got mine lol. Bought it in Microcenter on sale for a hell of a steal

I just ordered the Ender 3 S1 Pro Version here in Germany. Can´t wait

Just ordered this printer and would like to buy some extra nozzles. Are the thread standard for all the printers or each manufacturer could have different specifications?

Yo Joel are you ever going to do a review on the sprite extruder upgrade for the standard Ender 3 I bought the upgrade kit and it had been really great

Great Reviews! I am starting the quest for my first 3D printer, I am a HAM radio operator with some tech experience. What be a good recommendation in regards to printer and software? Also have kids that would love to print their game characters. Is there a repository of 3d models that you can download and print? This are basic questions I am sure everyone here knows, but new to me. Regards !!! Keep up the great videos.

as someone who is looking to get into the printing hobby what would people reccomend as a good starting printer, mainly to do smaller stuff ( hoping to do masks in the future) my budget is around 200! thanks

With the build plate issue you mentioned round 4:20 ish, would hairspray on the flex plate work? Honestly I have not used a flex plate at all, I have an Aluminum plate on a old MK1 Purusa i3. Looking at the Ender 3 S1 as my replacement... High time.

how does the Ender 3 v2 compared to the Ender 3 s1 so could it be up dated or would it be to much money great video good job

Hey! :) You should make a video talking about the new CR-10 Smart Pro which is one of the newest Creality releases ;) Great video btw.

Would you say that Anycubic Mega X still is worth it? Or should I go with something newer? It's on sale here in Sweden for just 280 USD.

I love the build area on my Sidewinder X1 and i'm thinking about getting a new printer to add to my print farm. (I have a M2P and a Saturn resin printer also) Thing is I really don't want to go down in bed size. I saw one somewhere (from Creality) that had a larger bed (500x500x? would be awesome) but I really want NO BODEN tube, and I saw interchangeable heads so that you could put on a laser engraver, yes please. Is there one you can review? I've heard a lot of bad talk about Ender 5's. What's your take...

@futuremapper_

2 жыл бұрын

Cr 10 max with a after market direct drive and tool change system, expensive though

Would cleaning between prints the printing bed with rubbing alcohol help with the sticking issues ?

You didn't have trouble with the dual rods? I had to add a timing belt to the top of my CR10S Pro to make it behave.

you gotta review the S1 PRO!

Would you recommend getting the sprite upgrade kit for an Ender 3 pro?

Managed to get one of these for $200, and at that price point this thing is an absolute steal. My Prusa Mini is still a much better printer overall in spite of its smaller build volume (it prints better parts and is hours faster on jobs) , but right out of the box this eliminates 90% of the problems I had with my first Ender 3 (mostly bed leveling and underextrusion) and is actually very usable.

@user-sn5yv9ke8f

11 ай бұрын

Same

I bought this printer as a spare to my aging Prusa Mk2. It works great, but my one little nit pick complaint is the cable. The cable sticks out so far to the side of the printer, that I feel like it wastes desk space. Any ideas on how to tidy that up? I've been trying to come up with something for several days.

I think it is about time i upgrade from my old CR10S v1 that I have had for nearly 4 years now and this looks perfect... smaller build plate... sure but I don't really use it all anyway so I think I will be fine.

I’m looking into printers for Christmas, never had a 3D printer before but seems like a cool hobby. There’s a few ideas I have already like printing some Replica guns from the game series Destiny and put them on display cuz theres a few I would like to physically display cuz they look so cool. Maybe make some side money too by selling prints lol.

@bpepviper1963

9 ай бұрын

It is pretty cool this printer is still very good but a new great option is the ender 3 v3 se

Great review. I think an interesting idea for video would be retrofitting a Sprite extruder to a Ender 3/Pro. How about it @3D Printing Nerd? @CHEP ?

Between you and Uncle Jessie your killing me - was all set to get Neptune 2s; then I see this and I'm doubting myself

Thanks a lot Joel, your voice was heard. Now we need a Creality end printer 400x400x400

Awesome. Don't forget about the pro version, it has improved hotend for high temperatures

Question: Does thermal runaway protection come enabled or do you have to update the firmware?

I’m looking to move in from my Tevo Tornado and it feels like I no longer understand the printer space. Where can we get an honest and experienced perspective of what printers are out there for 2022?