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Team Reaper!! :) I love them 'em all, though. Except Pro Tools. We don't talk about Pro Tools.

@StevenMelin

4 жыл бұрын

Awww, I adore Pro Tools so much. What don't you like about it?

@composercode

4 жыл бұрын

@@StevenMelin In fairness, I didn't take the time to compose an entire piece in it (which is fantastic advice, btw). Mostly because I was too frustrated to continue! I'd have to go back to see exactly what was so frustrating, but I remember the Avid anti-piracy iLok program thingy that needed to be running in the background at all times to be very slow and buggy. So just getting the program launched was a pain. Once I was in, the GUI looked like it hadn't been updated since 2001, which is fine, I can overlook that. But after creating some audio and MIDI tracks I realized that I couldn't find a single editing function (batch editing, stem export, region management, etc.) that I couldn't do just as easily in Reaper without the bugginess and frustrating user interface. (Also, Reaper 6, a major update, was launched a few months ago and it fixed a ton of problems with the UI of the old versions. It looks super clean and sexy now, you should check it out!) tl;dr - I don't remember exactly what I didn't like, I just remember that I didn't like it. I absolutely respect Pro Tools as the godfather of DAWs, but I think it holds the crown for most ubiquitous DAW not by merit of its quality, but by merit of its longevity (the whole first-to-market thing and switching costs and all that). But I'm the least pretentious person about DAWs. I will never try to convert anyone either way. if you make a record in freaking Audacity, more power to you. Use whatever is most comfortable and don't let picking a DAW cause you to procrastinate! (Coming from a master procrastinator) :)

@StevenMelin

4 жыл бұрын

@@composercode I love everything about this! I totally agree. I adore Pro Tools because of what it can do and how easily it can do it, but I must admit that it is TERRIBLE with MIDI. But it's audio editing functions are soooo nice. I completely understand that functions are difficult to find and it takes a while to get used to, which is no fun. But Pro Tools saves my butt at least 1-2 times per week with some kind of batch audio editing function.

@composercode

3 жыл бұрын

@@montyzuma9365 Well. That escalated quickly. 😂

@jacobb5484

3 жыл бұрын

@@composercode To me Pro Tools feels like it was designed primarily for audio while the rest were designed more for music. If you are doing voiceovers, Foley, background music, or something similar then protools tends to make a lot more sense. Likewise Abelton has a focus on performance and working as both a DAW and instrument. Unfortunately if you are in a studio type setting the more active instrument style stuff can get in the way just as much as it inspires.

The most important thing you said, "Find one DAW and master that". I have used many DAWs and the one I ended up using was Studio One. For me, it fits my workflow really well. Once you master one DAW it is much easier to understand what it does and does not do. I don't do a lot of midi and I have been told Studio One is not strong in midi. Ok. Not a problem for me. The best DAW is the one that fits your workflow.

One of the most honest takes on these DAWS I've heard - with real, career-based feedback. I was considering my next try out to be Ableton but after watching this I'm gonna go with Cubase.

I was an early adopter of a DAW in the 90s with Ensoniq Paris (long discontinued now). It came with a huge PC card full of DSP chips to help out the host PC (they were not really powerful enough in those days). I also had the extension rack with 16 extra inputs/outputs for a total of 20 in/out (20bit IIRC), and the external controller. IIRC you could record & mix up to 128 tracks. Coming from analog, I thought it was truly awesome (and relatively quite affordable). Non-destructive editing, easy recalls, almost endless tracks etc. Things we all take for granted now, but back then it truly was a revelation. Sometimes I still miss how super quick and intuitive it was to make crossfades in the GUI of that long dead DAW. I only had to use the mixing desk for recording anymore. The stock plugins it came with pretty much sucked in general though, and when they started supporting VST plugins, Ensoniq Paris was basically already dead. I rarely used any plugins at the time though, unless I ran out of outboard gear and needed "something" more. IIRC it also didn't really support MIDI, so I had sync'ed an old Atari ST with Cubase to it for when needed (probably using SMPTE using the old box I still had from the analog days). /old fogey reminiscing

Excellent rundown. Thanks Steven!

You can't just skip over FL Studio like that and say "oh, that program is just aimed at beat making". It's just as capable as the other DAWs if not more! It's a shame because people are just going to assume it's useless for regular music making if they go by your statement. I'd say the best thing about FL is that it's very intuitive even for beginners, as well as the ability to have whatever workflow you want. Don't like working with patterns? Then just use the arrange window. Enjoy the live functionality of Ableton? FL has a performance mode too. And last but not least, the best freaking piano roll on the market. :)

@StevenMelin

4 жыл бұрын

Max Antar I’m glad you love FL Studio so much! FL was my first DAW and I agree that it has merits, however compared to the other DAW’s on this list, I don’t recommend it for film / game music production. Ultimately, so long as you can master one DAW, you can write amazing music easily.

@Nayah9

4 жыл бұрын

@@StevenMelin You're definitely right about FL not being suitable for video work, as you are about many of the other DAWs in your list. For composing music though, it's just as capable as any other DAW which was my original point. Like you say, master whichever DAW is best for your needs! :)

@RaviRomana

3 жыл бұрын

@@montyzuma9365 lol , Get well soon bro

@heryanmau

3 жыл бұрын

Fl studio has a flexible MIDI editor, this feature is my favorite. However, fl studio GUI is too cosmetic to sacrifice performance. Must rename each channel in the mixer. The creation of sub folders in playlist mode is very limited. Strange piano sound when importing midi files, piano sustain is cut off. and I don't think the reaper is the best either. But the reaper has a more responsive performance.

@AOD2.0

3 жыл бұрын

@Martin Garrixer yep, and it's still listed as best Daw out of all the above mentioned.

Steinberg has a flagship DAW Nuendo didn’t see it Reaper is a monster of a DAW and it comes with lots of default plugin FL studio is more than just a beat making it can do everything I’m a Cubase and now Reaper user and I love it Overall all DAW are very good today it doesn’t matter is how creative you are You got some good info great video

@jaydy71

2 жыл бұрын

As a Cubase user, I'm actually sometimes tempted by FL Studio because the workflow seems very cool for music production, especially for certain genres. Maybe I'd still mix in Cubase because that's what I know best.

Finally, someone who says that there is no best-ever-DAW, what count is your creativity & your knowledge to use it. They all have Pros & Cons. Go with what feels natural to you.

@StevenMelin

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much! Here’s your golden ticket for learning more like this: www.stevenmelin.com/25questions

I love this video so much.Thank you.

Great video. Thanks for the upload!

Great video!!!! Really helpful !!!! Thanks!!!

Bro..You have opened up my eyes completely. Thank you so much!

Extremely useful info, thanks a lot

@StevenMelin

4 жыл бұрын

I’m glad this is helpful!

Excellent video! Very informative. I love DAW's. When i got out of hardware recording and into software recording, it was so intimidating. But after about a year i was able to run a DAW with no problems. Switching from hardware to software was the most musically life changing thing i ever did. CUBASE is my go to DAW, but i find them all to be wonderful things.

One of the greatest pro of REAPER among other DAWs is its CPU low usage and fast loading. Those who have an outdated PC or MAC, I highly recomend it. And it is super affordable. I think it is the most underrated DAW due to its GUI and low price. But it does the work you need and almost never crushes even if you overload it with plugins.

@timsamsung3736

2 жыл бұрын

Cubase now on par with Reaper 😉

Reaper update: With version 7, you can loopback audio and now midi as well! Translator's note: You can cheat Digital Performer's V-RACKs & Chunks via loopback & Subprojects. Includes streaming video files across all subprojects with the right toggles. Stability-wise, I'll follow-up as a reply to this comment on how well it works. I have faith since Reaper's routing engine is quite a beast.

awesome... thanks mate ..

This is great, thanks

@StevenMelin

4 жыл бұрын

Sean Rowland Pianist Thanks for watching! Sub for more vids like this every Wed.

Nice video bro!

Very useful comparison of the top (well known ) DAWs with pros and cons for each. Thanks Steve!

Been using DAWs for a long time and I love Live's horizontal sequencer. I use it 100% of the time over session view.

Sorry bro. You lost me when I saw you excluded Studio One.

@StevenMelin

4 жыл бұрын

It’s ok, not everyone is perfect 😉

@jonathanparismusic

4 жыл бұрын

@@StevenMelin Hey Steven love your videos! Just a thought but would love to hear your thoughts on Studio One. I've been an Ableton Live guy for the longest time but i recently got my hands on Studio One and I think it might be worth checking out. God Bless!

@StevenMelin

4 жыл бұрын

@@jonathanparismusic Heyo, some guys here in the comments love Studio One. I've never tried it personally, but I've also never felt the need to since it doesn't have any unique features that set it apart. I've asked the guys who use it why they love it and they have a hard time coming up with a reason aside from "it's good for all purposes", which you know I don't agree is a great reason :) By all means, try out the demos of all the DAW's you want to give a shot, but then most importantly - choose ONE to master and start writing!

@woodbreaker89

4 жыл бұрын

@@StevenMelin I think Studio one is the mobile version of cubase. The same intuitive workflow and one window approach but without that annoying dongle. ☺️ Oh how many times I forgot that thing at home 😂

@Ultima2876

3 жыл бұрын

@@StevenMelin the thing is, there's a HUGE difference between saying (in your video) that you've never used it, or that you 'don't recommend it'. Presonus is a great DAW with a feature set similar to Reaper, and a very intuitive interface. You can't just say it might be worth a try 'cause it's cheap - because it's absolutely not. In fact it costs more than Logic.

I didn't find Reaper's midi editing hard at all. The GUI has been updated in 6 and it customizable with themes you can download. I've heard of lots of people ditching Pro Tools and moving to Reaper. Plus the support community has been outstanding.

@hsn10

3 жыл бұрын

Sorry but MIDI in reaper is just tragic. I tried first time yesterday. lol. UI is terrible unless you download some sane skin. Look for example how Cakewalk react to track resizing - adding more controls if they fit. Reaper is about: You have basic program, go to finish it and customize. I have to say that reaper has some functions that I really didnt expected there. You probably can get used to it but for 225 USD you can get "real" DAW.

@kacklerot

2 жыл бұрын

@@hsn10 the ability to download and add scripts in Reaper can make midi a better experience. I'm not a great keyboardist so I have a function in it that locks what key I want the song in so I'll never be offkey.

Hi Steven, I need a little help from you. I work with the Spitfire library, it is not clear to me why the volume in Kontakt is always at -6 and therefore my signal is weaker. Can I set it to 0 as I am doing? Do I lose anything by doing so?

I would add Reason 12. The community has become quite immersive, as has the tools to create. It's ability to exist in other DAWs as a rack is quite excellent.

@StevenMelin

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, this vid needs a serious update for 2022! A lot has changed in the last few years.

Hi @Steven Melin Cubase has become hands down my absolute favorite DAW. It is so powerful and versatile! Cheers!

I'm a long-time DP user but I'm considering Logic Pro. Can I import sessions started in DP into Logic?

@StevenMelin

3 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately no DAW sessions can be converted into another, so you’d have to start a new session. MIDI & audio tracks can always be exported / imported.

Hey Steve! I am curious how you axiom 61 works with windows 10? I had trouble in the past finding software patches to get it to work with Studio 1.... And I wonder if you had any better luck or did you go with an older windows version?

@StevenMelin

3 жыл бұрын

I’ve never had any connection issues on my Windows 10. But I’ve also never used Studio One.

nice video!

Excellent presentation, I have been using Performer since the very first version (1985?) and your comments are spot on. Thinking of going with an ARM based Mac and switching to Logic Pro since it already runs natively in Big Sur and many 3rd party plug-ins have shown that they work with an M1/Big Sur Mac running Logic.Thank you!

I'm a windows user. And I have tried demo some of the existing daw. I fell in love with the reaper, the most responsive daw I've ever tried. The GUI is non-irritating to the eyes and can be customized.

@reapertutorials1947

3 жыл бұрын

The customization is Reaper is truly remarkable. You can even edit the image files of icons. Its amazing

Hi, what kind of computer keyboard do You have ? It looks well ... thanks for Answer !

@StevenMelin

3 жыл бұрын

My full studio setup: www.screenmusicacademy.com/blog/218516/studio-setup

You have a great cadence in your presentation ! Clear and concise ; thank you !

You’d recommend Ableton, Pro Tools, and REAPER for composing over Studio One?!? 👎🏾

@StevenMelin

4 жыл бұрын

Yep, I sure do

@electricpurple4112

3 жыл бұрын

I don’t get it either.

@MyFeltMusic

3 жыл бұрын

E R Yeah that’s why I gave the video a thumbs down/dislike.

@ryand4533

3 жыл бұрын

@Matt Prince Cubas is GARBAGE for mixing the fact that you think otherwise is hilarous.

Good video. I have a question, ¿which DAW has the best mixing native plugins (EQ, Comp, Reverb, Sat, Delay, etc.)?

@StevenMelin

3 жыл бұрын

They’re all about the same, but Logic Pro has the largest selection of native plugins, followed by Cubase.

Great video.. I am using cubase and i love it.. But as you mentioned there is no freedom with the videos. Do you think Neuendo is a suitable option? I expect that I will try it if a new version is available (10.5) . What do you think, have you ever tried it?

@StevenMelin

4 жыл бұрын

Ehab Mohammed - ايهاب محمد I’ve never tried Nuendo, but if you’re looking to dive into film scoring I can’t recommend Digital Performer enough.

@Ehabmxd

4 жыл бұрын

@@StevenMelin thank u steven for ur reply i will try it 🌹🌹

@johnstaf

4 жыл бұрын

I use Nuendo for film post-production. For writing music, it is identical to Cubase. You can have a second video track, but I don't think there's any advantage for the composer.

As a former DJ / Recording Artist I`ve started producing in 1997 with Cubase VST 3.5 on an old Power Mac 8600.. later as a 3 Person Producer Team we have used Logic Audio until 2006 .. since i left the Music Industry i am producing just for fun and to stay creative .. Now i am on Studio One 5 / Presonus Sphere and its really great ... gives me a much more better workflow than any other DAW and it sounds great ..

Your explanation is very clean and clear Thx

Limited mixing options in Cubase ? What do you mean ?

Thank you for putting this together...I wonder if your DP review also applies to Performer Lite which ships free with MOTU audio interface.

Ive used Pro Tools and Studio One. Like S1 better. What are your reasons for not putting S1 on your list?

Nice break down Bruhhh🤙

@StevenMelin

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much! Here’s your golden ticket for learning more like this: www.stevenmelin.com/25questions

Nice video! I've learn them all! I've used PT for 20 years and now it seems the right time to finally ditch it after studying Reaper for a week. I use Logic, S1, Live sometimes and have used Mixbus, Bitwig and Reason. All Daws have their strengths and flaws, you really have to put the time in learning it and then decide what's best for you. Or just stick to the one that works for you and go make some music.

Hi steven! I actually dont have a gear budget to record my playing or MIDI keyboard. Would be viable to use a DAW like fl studio to get my first composing jobs? Cheers from venezuela 😃

@StevenMelin

4 жыл бұрын

Regardless of what DAW you use, I strongly recommend investing in a MIDI keyboard. Here’s a list of my favorite: www.stevenmelin.com/budgetmusicgear#keyboards

@NickieHartsvideos

3 жыл бұрын

@@StevenMelin The link is broken?

@StevenMelin

3 жыл бұрын

Updated link: www.stevenmelin.com/myperfectsetup

DP is really good for music making. I would use it for film scoring, song producing, etc. Pro Tools is more for sound design and stuff.

Thanks for this video: It was very helpful. I'm going with both Cubase and Ableton Live. Since moving to Windows10 on your custom computer; What is your experience with the stability of Windows 10 vs. MacOS? I'm looking to move to Windows 10 for the studio on a custom PC as well. Thanks in advance.

@StevenMelin

4 жыл бұрын

My fav DAW since switching to PC is Cubase. I thoroughly enjoy Windows 10 and will never go back to Mac. I adore the interface, keyboard shortcuts, and full customization.

@StevenMelin

4 жыл бұрын

@@darryllcorpening2062 I adore my PC build. Full specs and build vid (in 2017): kzread.info/dash/bejne/qpOml8ydodW1ZZc.html And my recent studio tour (2020): kzread.info/dash/bejne/op-Z1cpvh7K1Z7A.html

Hello Steven, Cubase is Your goto DAW - which mixing options are limited ?

@StevenMelin

4 жыл бұрын

Mixing isn’t necessarily limited, but it doesn’t have batch audio functions like Pro Tools.

@AliAlZayer

4 жыл бұрын

@@StevenMelincontrol room , stock plugins ,direct offline , temporary link , object selection, loudness meter, side chain ..etc are they a feature of pro tools so you said cubase is limited in mixing ? i am surprised your opinion, by far cubase better for mixing tools

@StevenMelin

4 жыл бұрын

Ali Al Zayer Yep, PT has all those functions and more

@AliAlZayer

4 жыл бұрын

@@StevenMelin dear I have PT . and these features that I mentioned is not there . good luck

So far I've tried Live, FL Studio and Cubase and Cubase is the most intuitive to me both in terms of setup with hardware etc. and just making tracks as a beginner.

@StevenMelin

4 жыл бұрын

I agree! It’s become my favorite recently.

@Thadnill

3 жыл бұрын

@@StevenMelin I hear a lot of good things about Cubase, for mixing, audio work and for composing, how is the workflow to produce EDM music in Cubase compared to Ableton Live? I am to buy either Ableton Live or Cubase, I tend to make a lot of electronic music, but I also like to score & compose a lot of classical/orchestral music, and I also play a lot of rock & metal, so there are a lot of genres going on here. I also want a DAW that can handle audio editing & mixing well, which one would you recommend between ableton and cubase for my case?

@StevenMelin

3 жыл бұрын

@@Thadnill Go with Cubase! It’s far more versatile than Ableton. Ableton is the best choice if you plan to perform live.

@donharrold1375

3 жыл бұрын

Have you looked at Logic? Super easy; only downside is the Mac only option. I think of Cubase as almost a Logic equivalent on PC.

@timsamsung3736

2 жыл бұрын

@@Thadnill Cubase got almost all the features from all the DAW's. I would say that it is the most versitale DAW outhere. Reaper also has nearly all the features but it is very unintuitive and hard to work with. Since you going to write EDM, rock and classic I would defeneitely recommend you Cubase 😉

I have tried almost everything and finally settled with Cubase. In my opinion is the most completed daw.

Been using digital performer from ver:3 MacOS9 and am still here in 2020 DP10 Its the best in all Class

Does cubase element work with Window 10 home version 2004?

Any thoughts one way or the other on Harrison Mixbus 32c?

Which one would you say it's the best one for cinematic or epic music?

@StevenMelin

3 жыл бұрын

DAW’s aren’t genre-specific, they’re workflow-oriented. So how do you compose best? Do you usually start with a beat? Do you use a lot of orchestral instruments? Do you like to use markers? In general, Logic and Cubase seem to serve the cinematic / epic community best.

Doing a comparison is always really hard, no doubt, but here's a short list of things I was surprised you did not mention. Features wise Cubase's strong point has always been having a solution for just about everything, it gets new features like Expression maps etc. before most of the rest. It's weakness has always been bugs and stability. Logic's biggest weakness IMO is the MIDI input by port limitation, you're stuck with 16 MIDI channels so setting up an MPE instrument along with a regular instrument mapped to a MIDI keyboard isn't possible. It's strength is by far it's amazing embedded instruments, Sculpture and Alchemy, the AI drummers etc. Live's weakness is CPU use, it sucks up more CPU than the others about 30-40% more on average. It's also arguably the most expensive, since Suite is pretty much necessary if you want LFO's and Max 4 Live. Ableton are slow as molasses lately update wise as well. Max 4 Live is amazing though, and the video editing features that brings (Jitter) while not suited for film composing are perfect for accompanying live performances etc. Digital Performer is not near the most expensive, that would go to Pro Tools with it's subscription model. I completely agree DP can be confusing at first to work with, but Chunks and V-Racks are as unique as Clips were to Live 5 years ago. I think a basic truth about DP is that MOTU are smaller than Ableton, Avid, Yamaha and Apple, so they always struggle for new features compared, Articulation/Expression maps in Cubase and Logic are a film score composers friend, and MOTU I'm sure want something like that in DP, it's just a smaller team etc. Reaper suffers from that same script ability that you mention, getting it to some level that's comfortable and streamlined for your own use is a long arduous task. Pro Tools, you nailed, but it's easily the most expensive, even using Live Suite as an example, and it's clunky in many ways.

@StevenMelin

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the extra points!

Subbed!!!!! I bought Logic in 2014 and it still works. It updates frequently and free. I like that. I'm going to add the xtouch universal controller and later on switch to M1 Imac

I have compared all of these in the past except Logic because I don't do Apple but switched to Studio One at version 3 and haven't looked back.

Reaper comes with default plugins. When you're download Reaper you'll get a pack of plugins with it.

@StevenMelin

2 жыл бұрын

Good to know!

Which daw has best quality stock instruments and sample library ? Only one question

@StevenMelin

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely Logic Pro

@rajkamaljangir3618

3 жыл бұрын

@@StevenMelin thanks brother

Excellent review! Went from Cubase to Digital Performer. why; three words; streamers and punches!

Studio One 5

@TNPOne

3 жыл бұрын

S1 is kind of a Cubase clone, not bad at all.. but try out Cubase pro 11 and Nuendo from steinberg for one week and you will understand. Take Care.

@jannatinkarlen8702

3 жыл бұрын

It is quite different, I move from cubase to studio one. The thing that I don't like is studio one playback sounds worse. The mixdown however is identical

@JochyEstrella

3 жыл бұрын

​@@jannatinkarlen8702 maybe in your system sounds different, in my system i hear no difference in sound quality/perfomance between all of them, FYI my desktop computer is no slouch do, its a workstation class built ... I also have trialed Cubase and Nuendo 11, and they're nice and so but since am more into Media production, mixing and conceptualizing than music creation am honest to say that I can accomplish with studio one pro 5.1.1 what cubase or nuendo or both combined can do (except for dolby atmos), but since I also work with Da Vinci Resolve Studio 17 as my main media compositor, fairlight now includes Dolby Atmos mixing and encoding and it should be enough for what I do, they are both a lot easier to work with imho.

It’s worth to take your time to learn a pro DAW if you are going to use this for the rest of your life. I am so glad DP was my choice a decade ago….

@StevenHardy

2 жыл бұрын

Mine too!

I'm one of the FL Studio guys. I tried Live since the lite version came with a keyboard I got, and I've tried Reaper, both of which have me a headache trying to figure out. I don't know what it is, but FL Studio just makes sense to me. I can get it to do what I want it to without having to read and reread the manual trying to figure out what the heck's going on. Admittedly, I do everything with MIDI and virtual instruments. I've used Pro Tools in an audio production class and agree it's great for recording live audio, but that's not really an active concern for me.

@StevenMelin

4 жыл бұрын

JRokujuushi That’s awesome to hear! I’m glad that you’ve at least tried Ableton Live. Live is meant for vertical sequencing, so if that’s not your thing I totally understand why you prefer FL Studio.

@JRokujuushi

4 жыл бұрын

@@StevenMelin I had a thought the other day. I wonder if the reason FL Studio clicked so well with me is because I switched to it after using tracker programs (FastTracker, Impulse Tracker, ModPlug). After thinking about it a bit, it seems kind of similar on a conceptual level. Set up your instruments, compose your patterns, arrange those patterns, but those capabilities are magnified in FL Studio. Each channel can now play multiple notes and lets you tweak multiple parameters at once. You can have multiple patterns playing simultaneously instead of just setting an order for them to play. Patterns can be as long as you want them to be. The output of each instrument is now directed to the mixer where you can process it with effects.

@StevenMelin

4 жыл бұрын

JRokujuushi Cool observation!

@SteelShirt99

4 жыл бұрын

@@JRokujuushi FL is a nightmare to work with when it comes Kontakt based composing, atleast for me. Top that up with the fact that everything has to be manually added into the mixer is also a big headache,

@Nayah9

4 жыл бұрын

​@@SteelShirt99Since version 20.5 you can add any instrument or sample to a track in the arrange window and it will automatically be linked to a mixer track which will be auto-coloured and named as well if that's how you like to work. As for Kontakt, you can route all Kontakt instruments to the mixer as with any DAW. Any clunkiness associated with that comes from Kontakt itself.

I use cubase for 2 years and go to reaper for 3 years. Trying out cubase 11 now, can't believe how much its more complicated than reaper. One thing i found out is that even if cubase has more size, its faster at loading up some vst than reaper. I just can't the workflow for now, midi track, instrument track is killing me lol. While in when you import midi, in reaper you only need midi track and add fx for vsti. My problem in cubase when you import midi track, it shows up as midi track and can't insert vsti, you need to add instruments track for insert vsti. Gotta learn more about cubase

@StevenMelin

3 жыл бұрын

It always takes time to switch to another DAW, so give it a few weeks! Cubase is incredibly deep & powerful! It’s become my favorite.

Hey guys i'm very new to DAW and i cant decide between cubase and reaper. I want to learn to record songs/demos with my band and maybe let them mix by another person. Do you have any tips what program would be better?

@StevenMelin

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely Cubase.

@futariTV

3 жыл бұрын

@@StevenMelin thank you!

@davidracine869

Жыл бұрын

I recommend Studio One for music production.

You did a nice, concise overview of those. What I am looking for is DAW software that I can record into with my keyboard, guitar, bass or drums (composing). And also something I can add additional sounds into that I don’t have on those four instruments. And then be able to mix those tracks and play any or all of them back together minus the keyboard, guitar, bass or drums or whatever instrument I am playing live along with the backing tracks I created. And also a DAW that has basic features such as reverb, delay, echo etc… that I can add to all those tracks if needed. Which I’m sure they all have. In other words, I want something I can be a “one man band” with. What do you recommend? I am an older guy and when I played in a band in the 80’s none of this digital stuff existed so the choices are a bit overwhelming. And if it matters I am NOT into EDM or hip hop. Thanks!

@StevenMelin

3 жыл бұрын

You can’t go wrong with any of these choices, but the most accessible DAW will likely be Logic Pro (if you’re a Mac user); otherwise try Cubase!

Hi, great video! Maybe I missed it, but how are film scoring features limited on Cubase?

@StevenMelin

3 жыл бұрын

Take a look into Digital Performer & Logic Pro and you’ll see the lack of features in Cubase for film scoring!

@jannatinkarlen8702

3 жыл бұрын

Isn't nuendo the software dedicated for film scoring, cubase bigger brother

Great video. I just moved off DP after 35 years. It IS the best for scoring, but the GUI needs a serious overhaul. The mini-menus inside of mini-menus get aggravating because the app is so deep. The routing is wonky compared to other DAWs, too. And they need more market presence. Younger composers don't really hear about it so it's sort of esoteric. They used to be the clear market leader. Tried Logic and was going to stick with it, but 10.5.1 doesn't have persistent undo history anymore. Total dealbreaker. Working in TV, being able to go back to old cue setups keeps things from getting lost in the shuffle. It's saved me dozens of times. Also Logic, Reaper and PT can't audition discrete MIDI selections on the fly. That's baffling to me and seems so rudimentary as a function, especially for orchestral work. Reaper's smart cursor is pretty cool and really speeds up editing in the piano roll. But it looks like I'll be landing on Cubase for a while. It appears Steinberg has addressed a lot of past issues in 10.5. Guess we'll see!

@StevenMelin

3 жыл бұрын

I’m right there with you! I’m using Cubase for almost everything now for many of these reasons.

It's great to get this kind of comparison. I would like to hear a 2022 version with Studio One V6; is it professionally comparable to industry standard DAWs like Pro Tools, Pro Logic, or Ableton Live? I'm advancing into pro sound design for Music and Film, as a freelancer I want to be able to communicate on the same level with major studios; Skywalker, Marvel, Bungie, Bad Robot, Netflix...etc. Is sticking with Studio One 6 worth it or should I be working with the Same DAWs they use? This is a hard answer to solve as most everyone chooses DAWs as their preference. I'm used to Studio One as long as I stay in my lane, but what if I work remotely with a major studio?

3:34 Did you have some frustrating audio issues while you were talking about that.. or just decide to use your computer's external mic for one sentence? :D

@StevenMelin

3 жыл бұрын

Ha, I overdubbed that one sentence 😅

Great idea to make a video about this. Are there many other for 2020?

@StevenMelin

4 жыл бұрын

I'm glad this is helpful for you! Not to my knowledge.

Logic now has live looping and a pattern editor. It has all the features Ableton live has, and more. Don’t forget, Logic has Logic remote for iPad or iPhones which you can use as a mixer, drum pads, chord strip, or, most importantly for film scoring.......customizable keyboard shortcuts at the tap of the screen. And it’s only $199 with free updates until Logic 11 comes out. Which will likely be years.

@DavidAnthonyFlores

2 жыл бұрын

Doesn't work with my PC though. Abletone works on both platforms, which I do use.

Which midi controller to you have???

@StevenMelin

4 жыл бұрын

Watch this vid @ 15:15: kzread.info/dash/bejne/op-Z1cpvh7K1Z7A.html

What about Digital Performer vs Nuendo? Nuendo is basically cubase + post production, based on the Steinberg's description.

Reaper is criminally underrated. I made a top 10 list of why reaper is the best

I gotta ask and any help from anyone would be great! Whether is logic, reaper, studio one or pro tools, does it really matter which daw u use? Like does the daw u choose do any change in audio quality? I’m asking Cuse I want to get reaper but I want to know if it can achieve professional level quality like pro tools or logic? Any help would be appreciated thanks!

@StevenMelin

3 жыл бұрын

No DAW has any audio advantage over the other, just workflow advantages to each.

@bolodmata

3 жыл бұрын

@@StevenMelin so I can use reaper and get the same pro mixes like any daw correct?

@StevenMelin

3 жыл бұрын

@@bolodmata Yep!

@bolodmata

3 жыл бұрын

@@StevenMelin great! Thanks for the info! Looks like I’m getting reaper

Hey just learned this video posted on April 22nd my 59th Birthday. I am building my recording studio. Album recording & film scoring. I am choosing "Cubase Pro 11" My sound libraries will be Spitfire ALBION ONE, BBC SYMPHONY and ABBEY ROAD Symphonic.

Great video - I've been using Performer/Digital Performer since the mid-80s, and while I can work well with it, I still consider it weird and janky in so many ways! Thinking about switching to something more aligned to my hobbyist needs - perhaps Reaper or Logic Pro.

do you mix in that springy room, no treatment

@StevenMelin

4 жыл бұрын

Yep, lol. I mostly use headphones in this small untreated space.

Hey buddy great job I’ve been working with Logic Pro X for a couple years now, but few of my friends tells me that Cubase sounds more tight and strong, when listening to the mix My friends wants me to buy Cubase Do you hear any differences between the two I either buy the artist or the Pro version Please help

@StevenMelin

3 жыл бұрын

I don’t believe there’s any difference in the mix quality between DAW’s since they’re all digital. Each DAW has different preset plugins, which may contribute to a different sound, but otherwise it all comes down to your workflow preferences.

@kishorilalkishoreda5719

3 жыл бұрын

Steven Melin Thank you so much I mostly use my on plug-ins , such as Nexus and Kontakt Player , so in that case I believe I don’t need to buy Cubase

Studio One hase become pretty huge I would say. Especially through it's tight integration with Vienna Symphony Libraries. No more messing around with expression maps. It's all there once you install the libs.

Is the midi functionality of PT really way behind all other DAWs?

I love using Ableton for recording/tracking and mixing in pro tools.

@actualchrisreid

4 жыл бұрын

Also, I record horizontally in Ableton and have no issues.

@StevenMelin

4 жыл бұрын

Stock Music by Chris Reid Great combo! But ooof, you would have an amazing time if you try writing in Logic or Cubase - their horizontal composing is vastly deeper than Ableton. But hey, Ableton is super quick!

@actualchrisreid

4 жыл бұрын

@@StevenMelin I used logic back when I was in audio school. I love it for doing midi stuff. I am just a PC user personally. I have wanted to check out Cubase, but don't really need it at the moment. Lol.

@StevenMelin

4 жыл бұрын

Stock Music by Chris Reid Welp, give it a shot sometime! It has a fully-functional free trial.

@actualchrisreid

4 жыл бұрын

@@StevenMelin awesome! I will give it a shot sometime when I have some down time. Thanks for the suggestion!

This is really useful - thanks! I'm a Cubase user and have done orchestral music on that for a while, but I'm planning to get more into out of the box stuff with hardware synths, and make more experimental and electronic music. I'm thinking sticking with Cubase is my best bet since I'm already familiar with it, but if you have anything to add on that, I'd appreciate a comment! Thanks.

@StevenMelin

3 жыл бұрын

Stick with what you know! Cubase is great at recording analog gear too, especially since you can record both a MIDI & audio track simultaneously, allowing full control of hardware synths.

@macronencer

3 жыл бұрын

@@StevenMelin That's great, thank you for replying!

I'm having serious latency issues with Reaper. Are all the other DAWs like that??

Tbh, Logic Pro is the only DAW that has the best stock plugins in my opinion. Because when I did some research on how producers make classic Hardstyle kicks, I figured out that people were using the Logic Pro stock plugins for making kicks. For me, if I had to chose a DAW, my answer would be Logic.

Reaper #1 as it supports all plugins, highly customizable, best linear work flow coupled with Adobe Audition as its external editor. (Reaper uses less system resources than the rest and, loads fastest and, the custom themes available by users makes these other DAWS look like dinosaurs). Ableton Live Intro #2 for its vertical sequencer. (I wish I could get a version with just session view by itself for clips to output into Reaper via Rewire midi triggered by my MPC).

refuse to believe you constantly cycle through 6 DAWs. but you have made your points very well. helpful video

@StevenMelin

4 жыл бұрын

Ha! I cycle between them based on the project. I actively work on film, TV, video game, & podcast music (4 different mediums) that require different approaches, so I find myself bouncing between them constantly. On an average day I find myself going mostly between Cubase & Pro Tools. Ableton Live & Digital Performer are for more specialty projects. I no longer use Logic Pro because I’m on a PC, but my Mac still sits in the corner for the rare cases that I need to access old Logic files.

@Kevinschart

4 жыл бұрын

@@StevenMelin that's crazy...again thanks for the video.

But, in where of them i can wright traditional note music?

@StevenMelin

3 жыл бұрын

Use Finale, Sibelius, or Dorico to write sheet music! Cubase & Logic Pro both have score editor windows that let you write basic sheet music.

No Studio One... No list... S1 is magic.. An ableton and FL studio user for many years.

@Scars_on_my_nose

3 жыл бұрын

Is S1 the best?

@RishavBaruah

3 жыл бұрын

@@Scars_on_my_nose without any doubt

@Scars_on_my_nose

3 жыл бұрын

@@RishavBaruah what kind of music do you make

@RishavBaruah

3 жыл бұрын

@@Scars_on_my_nose Future Bass, chillstep,melodic dubstep, and similar genres..

@Scars_on_my_nose

3 жыл бұрын

@@RishavBaruah where can I check your music

You've missed one huge Pro for Cubase Pro, that's unique to it. It contains a fully fleged score layout section! And, no I'm not talking about a score editor. Those are included with most DAWs. I'm talking about a real score layout program, like Finale or Sibelius. This makes Cubase Pro the cheapest investment (especially if you take advantage of Steinbergs recurring deals) of all the DAWs, for anyone who needs to print sheet music. Maybe you're composing for (non-Hollywood) films or music theaters. Having the score layout program integrated into Cubase Pro, is a big time saver. It also saves a lot of money. Finale and Sibelius aren't cheap! And no, I'm not being paid by Steinberg. I just think that this, unique to Cubase Pro, feature should have been mentioned.

@StevenMelin

3 жыл бұрын

Great input, thanks! My most used DAW is Cubase Pro and I didn’t even know this was a feature.

@gitaar70

3 жыл бұрын

@@StevenMelin Hah, that's funny! You really know your way in these programs and learned something new, that's awesome.

@Cat-hw1vh

3 жыл бұрын

Would be nice if the score editor notated midi as well as Quickscibe in DP, althoughI think the Cubase score is getting better. I think DP has the edge for me personally when trying to work with notation when composing music. I'm not a fan of composing in the midi editor that much other than for single lines. How can you get any idea of a composition harmonically if you're writing for more than one part in a piano roll midi editor?

@Dzineboy

Жыл бұрын

Digital Performer has advanced integrated orchestra scoring

I dont care whats the best, so Ableton works fine for me! :D

@StevenMelin

4 жыл бұрын

Great answer!

Good report on the 6 DAWs you chose to discuss. Of course there are many DAWs on the market today and it's difficult to cover them all so I appreciate you covering the software you were most familiar with. Honestly, all of the DAWs on the market today are massively powerful and can do amazing things. All depends on how people want to work. There is no best DAW so I was glad to hear you address that, too. I like that you included Digital Performer. I have version 8.07 for Windows and I used to use the Mac version years ago. In terms of power it is off the charts, but I recognize that MOTU DP for years failed to keep up with some GUI improvements. Fonts were tough to read, the piano roll was confusing though powerful, and the CC editing was a jumbled mess. So I've been following the development of the updated version 10.1. In terms of popularity DP fell behind the more popular DAWs like Logic Pro, Cubase, Cakewalk Sonar, Studio One, and of course two of the most popular programs going today are FL Studio and Ableton Live. I love the film scoring tools in MOTU DP and find the chunks and virtual rack design amazing. If MOTU can get the new audio/MIDI clips feature moving in the right direction and continue to improve the GUI with less clutter then I might be back on board. The power is there for DP, but can they make it cool, fast, intuitive, and popular again? Not sure, but it is one heck of a program. Even though I have DP 8, I have mostly shifted to using Reaper and FL Studio. Love both. FL Studio is my choice for loop-based or groove based composition, and then I mix and master in Reaper. For orchestral or band arrangements that I do I use Reaper for everything. The thing that may turn people away from Reaper is the routing matrix. It takes a while to get your head wrapped around setting up tracks, routing MIDI to audio, setting up sub mixes, effects, etc. It is a different way of working. Once you get used to this it is amazing what can be done, especially with freezing and rendering or batch file processing. The power in the MIDI/Audio regions to setup specific bounces for each and then do it all in one click is similar to Pro Tools. The region playlist lets you setup multiple songs based on content on your timeline and you can play any of your content in any order, with loop points set to whatever you want. The MIDI editor and piano roll has come a long way with excellent notation view/edit. You can recall many different mixes and can utilize sub projects in many ways, essentially giving you many projects within one project. The interface has come a long way too. Reaper's version 6 look is pretty good. Maybe not a pretty as other DAWs, but there are hundreds of skins out there for whatever look you want. I personally prefer Reaper's 6 theme with a few modifications that I made. In terms of sounds, Reaper only comes with a basic synth plugin and the ReaSamplomatic5000 (which is a BEAST for sampling instruments and percussion, building your own library, etc.). Reaper works with every sound library out there and it does come with loads of DSP plugs. Under the hood, Reaper is like a Ferrari with almost no equal. On the surface it may look more like a nice mid-priced sedan and that is what likely keeps some people away, but I think this is why Reaper operates on such a small footprint and super fast. The development for this program is super quick, so this is definitely software to keep your eyes on. Reaper is coming on fast and I know many Pro Tools folks who are switching over to Reaper for mix and mastering. It was until I spent a lot of time with Reaper and really dug under the hood that I realized what a BEAST this software is. Whatever it may lack there is likely a custom tool already out there that may solve the problem, and the rest is coming very quickly. It is truly a unique piece of software that is rising very quickly. I know you chose Ableton Live to discuss, and LIVE is amazing. I have played with it some. For me, I prefer FL Studio. This is another piece of software that just works the way I think when putting together rhythmic tracks, grooves, or other types of media that utilizes looping or minimalist elements. The ease and power under the hood of FL Studio is vastly underrated by many. The mixer is amazingly powerful and blows Ableton Live out of the water in that respect. The plugins and DSP effects are stunning, especially if you get the Signature Edition plus a few additional plugs. Live definitely comes with great plugs as well, and Live easily whips FL when it comes to hardware controllers, especially the Push. But a new Akai controller did come out for FL that is quite nice and very powerful. Both are fantastic programs, but for my preferences I give the edge to FL Studio. Cubase, of course, is always a great choice. It's super capable with one of the cleanest and most readable interfaces going. Studio One has many similarities since it was developed by former Cubase folks. Logic Pro is also fantastic! I have used it a few times for some mixing and mastering on a friend's project. I do not like how it handles audio, but in terms of total power, built-in sounds, DSP effects, and MIDI it is an obvious choice for Mac users. If you have a Mac you can have Logic Pro for $199. That's a lot of power for a small price. Pro Tools is what is it: a rock solid master of audio recording, mixing, and mastering. Some hate it, some love it. The software often seems very Windows 95ish or Mac OS8 like. It's roots are much older, much like MOTU DP or Steinberg Cubase, but unlike Cubase the Pro Tools folks have always been at the mercy of the HARDWARE. What people often forget when it comes to PT is that it was built ground-up to work with the most high-end audio interfaces, pre-amps, control surfaces, and PCI cards (internal or external). Most of what it was developed to work with was built by Digidesign (now part of Avid). It's what they used to call "Turnkey Systems" back in the day. Very similar to Apple building their own OS, software, and the hardware -- and all-in-one system. The system itself was really the hardware and they would give you the software for free. Of course, now days Pro Tools can be run with Apogee and other audio interfaces, and even certain 3rd party hardware control surfaces. So if you want you can keep the cost down some. But if you're working in a top-notch studio why would you want to do that? For those looking to learn or work with PT I strongly recommend giving their free software a try. While there are some less-expensive options with Avid, a solid and professional PT setup will likely involve a $3000 - $4500 audio interface (and you may need 2 to 3 of these), a $2000 PCI card (and you may need 2), a $1200 control surface (one of the cheaper ones, but these can be as high as $55,000 and up), and the software. The amount of equipment you need depends on how many channels you need to record. But this is the true cost of PT. If you are recording in a top-notch studio you will want these high-end audio interfaces, controllers, PCI cards, mics, etc. It just so happens that the PT software is built to work with some of the best hardware on the market...and it does this with near zero latency and rock solid editing and mastering. For the best studios this is why PT is the standard.

@StevenMelin

4 жыл бұрын

This is quite the review! Sounds like you should make your own blog / video about this topic :)

I think you forgot to mention that FL Studio has the best piano roll. And piano roll is the most important part of DAW for many users.

@PeteS_1994

4 жыл бұрын

@@r8indr0p88 I just downloaded a Cubase trail yesterday. I found the stock sounds better than the FL stock sounds so far. I have to get more use to the UI but also think once I master it it will be more organised than FL. I find FL Studio's piano roll better but that's cause I'm more use to it. With FL the piano roll is good, I think the grid/timing options can be made clearer though.

You forgot about reason, it’s really powerful. I’m a logic user now but I often go back to reason for some reason

@StevenMelin

4 жыл бұрын

I mentioned Reason as an honorable mention at the end ;)

@danielstimson2168

4 жыл бұрын

@@StevenMelin You mentioned you wouldn't recommend Reason but didn't say why.

@StevenMelin

4 жыл бұрын

Daniel Stimson I made a general sweeping statement about it + Studio One 🙃

Having an option for a video frames strip in the lower zone editor would be nice in Cubase, as this is a useful feature in DP, having the video frames strip at the top of the sequence window. Maybe I can experiment with the position of the video track in Cubase but having it at the top in the main window is not always that useful. Maybe workspaces is the solution?

Which one is better for classical music?

@iwannadance3070

3 жыл бұрын

Cubase is great for classical music. Hans Zimmer uses it. I think that says it all :)

@fingerhorn4

3 жыл бұрын

@@iwannadance3070 Hans Zimmer is not a classical composer or arranger. Nearly all of these applications can be used for arranging music, and nearly all of them require a dedicated score/notation app separate from the DAW.

Great reviews, but I think Cubase is one of the best for mixing. 😀

@StevenMelin

4 жыл бұрын

Interesting! Have you tried Pro Tools?

@johnstaf

4 жыл бұрын

@@StevenMelin I have indeed. It's great for mixing too (the expensive "Ultimate" version). I use Nuendo for film post-production. They're all great at something. 😀

I really find it funny what's considered a high learning curve these days.

@StevenMelin

4 жыл бұрын

Touche.

🎹 This review on Logic Pro X is misleading. It pretty much does what all the other DAW programs do. More so, Logic Pro X is best suited for composers. Just get a Mac and Logic Pro X and you’ll thank me. Logic Pro blows away all the other DAW programs. All music on my channel is Logic Pro. Enjoy! 📀