Me: watches one farming sim video KZread ads: yee haw partner, wanna buy a tractor??

@mobb_vrc

4 жыл бұрын

@eddiewinehosen me watching on a tablet and not able to find functioning ad block

@Komiksti

4 жыл бұрын

@@mobb_vrc KZread vanced.

@tyler58701

4 жыл бұрын

My ads are all farm insurance and farming weather ads.

@_caydenb_27

4 жыл бұрын

Yep that is how it goes

@mobb_vrc

4 жыл бұрын

@eddiewinehosen I have looked and nothing works

It is true that we may know this info already, however it is great to see someone actually prove it. Well done.

@sincerelybemore4446

3 жыл бұрын

I'm late, new farmer lol, but yes, great video, I need these videos because I know nothing lol, I like learning through trial and error but sometimes I get stumped and need assistance. Great Job!

@jonlyn8372

3 жыл бұрын

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@jonlyn8372

3 жыл бұрын

I'm good now but I was late to

in my opinion, if you are souly a silage producing farm you may be better off going with grass with respect to profitability. Grass is cheaper to grow and feild grass doesn't require the same level of attention compared to corn. You will get more turnover at less cost. Depending on the map, you also get the added benefit of free headland and roadside grass to add to your total haul. Great video and very well done experiment Paul 😊👍

@julesjennissen3014

5 жыл бұрын

Atomic67 G the roadside grass is nomore in fs19 because you have to own that land in most cases you dont own it

@David-nk3kq

5 жыл бұрын

Another few advantages of grass is that only needs fertilising once in growth cycle. You don’t have to replant it or plow before. You might get more yield of corn but effort to yield I think grass will be better.

@Atomic67G

5 жыл бұрын

@@julesjennissen3014 ah yes, good point. I forgot about that 😊

@Forester-qs5mf

5 жыл бұрын

Plus you can harvest 3 grass crops for every corn crop ... grass is head and shoulders above everything. Which is not realistic but whatever.

@anillius4703

5 жыл бұрын

Is there any difference between mowing and forage harvesting the grass in terms of yield? Anyone tested?

Wow, You won the price!!! This neatly presented and well documented big test was perfect. The results are standing tall. You have made a really valuable video here. This should be linked as documentation on chaff production for FS19. For me, there were several surprises, so I got my numbers right now. Thank you very much for taking the time and do such a nice setup and test. I really appreciate this video. Mr. SealyP you are number One Sir. Great job and I honestly can't see any flaws in this presentation.

I do say the result was well needed and thank you for taking the time to do the test that we save a lot of peoples time, I do hope more test are planned in, a great video look forward to you next one

I'd say that's as empirical a result as we're capable of getting within the bounds of the game. Well Done Sir! And good info too. I sure hope these test videos make a comeback, I really enjoy getting hard answers on questions like that and letting you do the work for it! hahahaha Thanks MrSealyP

@itsandyb8239

5 жыл бұрын

I enjoy the test videos to

I’m always impressed and thankful for the time you take to set up these demonstrations and tests. I only ever do grass for silage, but I can see the attraction for corn.

Useful vid and beautifully set up. Thanks MSP and for sharing the results. Not sure about crop values though there’s been comments I’ve heard around yield vs price per 1000 litres. Must do a test of that myself

Appreciate the time spent testing this, good job!

First off thanks so much for doing this. I have been doing silage since FS 2007 and it has always been profitable. Grass is great as it requires no extra effort, plant once if at all and you are good to harvest many times. Note that grass gives 3 harvest to one corn, but...you get far more yields from corn = to 5 grass cuts once placed in Silo. FS 19 has added in breakdown of silage and therefore grass will decompose more than corn leaving you with less than corn it self. That said Thank you once again for the Video and wish everyone a happy farming.

Great video, so corn is the best but still the hardest, ploughing is a pain, so i stick to grass. Thanks MrSealyp.

This was a very interesting video, I was curious the chaff yields now with being able to do other crops. Thank you for doing the leg work! I am glad to see that corn is still chaff king, grass may be the better option when it comes to affordability, but I enjoy seeing the corn grow. Great video !

Thanks mate that was a brilliant test, we all know where we're going now, thanks for putting in all the hard work too.

Thank you for taking the time to do this test. From where I come from, the results were what I expected but I was curious to see what the other crops would yield. Another great vid MSp!! Hope you have a great week Cheers

@andrewinbody4301

5 жыл бұрын

I like a good fair test too.

@ZekenStreak

4 жыл бұрын

Andrew, you can rely on MSp to make the test fair and even across the board. I believe the time between harvest would give another advantage to grass. No need to plow & re-seed so you could harvest grass twice to once for corn. Less output for equipment also.

Super useful to know 👌🏻 grass will be my go to, but when I’m bored of mowing I’ll be planting corn :)

Gr8 vid m8 👍😁👍i have been wondering about this, so thank you for the in depth video. Keep it up 😁👍

Excellent work MSP. I've used grass for my silage for awhile now. Solely due to the fact it that it regrows.

You're starting to become my goto for information, short sweet and to the point.

What a great comparison video. Thanks so much for your effort and patience.

Nice video, must've take a lot of work to set up. Interesting fact I learned about corn silage is it's used improve dairy yields, it's sweet so cows love it and therefore eat more. That's why some dairy farms chaff corn for silage as well as grass. Be good if that was reflected in Farm Sim

Great video Mr P! Another nice thing with grass is you don’t have to chaff it, just load it in a loading wagon. So no need to buy an expensive forage harvester!

its good that someone has taken their time out to prove it and it’s grate video definitely got your self a subscriber keep up the good work

With the up coming seasons release, and their statement that miss timed plantings may result in crops that do not mature prior to winter, it is a good reminder that there is a forage header that can chaff those fields so we can get something useful out of another wise failed crop

@andrewinbody4301

5 жыл бұрын

Good thought. Better to get something than nothing.

Great vid ! I chatted sunflower on 17 before I could of swore after buying a field on lone oak.

Better farming simulation through science. ;) Nice to see this; thanks! I've never exactly tested it, but back-of-the-envelope calculations have always pointed at corn for the winner in the quantity game, and at grass for the winner as regards ease; good to see that confirmed. I always do grass silage in early game because the required setup is cheap and once I've seeded it continued care is much less than for other crops. I'm still curious if grass were the overall winner if one calculates the total cost over a certain time (not only seed and fertilizer but also cost of plowing), because grass also grows faster and one never has to plough.

Another bonus for grass - when using seasons, you can harvest grass 3 times in a year, where corn only once! One thing it would be good to know: I understand you can chaff grains in the final stage of growth(??), thus if you can, is there any benefit to waiting until the grain is "ready to harvest"?

@MAXQ14

4 жыл бұрын

keep in mind though, it is possible to plant grass after corn harvest and than you can cut it before seeding the next year. giving you a bit more chaff than just running corn

Great test video and I'm sure you made an easy choice decision for a lot of people on best to use! Thanks for the work as always Sir! Thumbs up of course!

Thanks again for another informative video. I didn't read all the comments, but the first thing that came to my mind is that with the grass you don't need a forage harvester ($$$$) all you need is a loading wagon; you can't do that with corn. I know you used it to keep everything equal. Of course you could also bale and wrap it but that's not good on a big scale. ( I had to edit, I spelled bale as bail, I guess that would be if it was not your property. LOL)

Nice setup, good test, but WOW, such a big difference in the result.

Nice work. I appreciate you doing videos to research these things so I don't need to.

Great video I would have never guessed grass would be second to corn and in the long-term it could be more profitable

Cool test, thanks for the very useful info MrSealyp.

Not just that - you never have to replow or relime a grass field the way you do corn. I've rarely had to even weed my grass field if at all. AND one of the modded mowers has a trailer hitch, so you can attach a forage wagon to it - or a baler - and it will work even with a worker. Just make sure to turn the trailer on before you send the worker off with the mower.

Outstanding work, thanks for the time spent. BC.

Another informative video! Would love to see a logging one...... especially with the new 13m cutting lengths

Great vid, great info, and very well planned - thank you!!

I saw your other test this one is just as cool!!!

Well done thanks for a new farm simmer it helps a lot!

Thanks, Mr. SealyPP. Great job.

Thanks for the effort you put in testing. These videos are really helpful

Thanks for doing the research for me. I truly appreciate it.

Hi MSP. Thanks for a great video! Follow on test suggestion: I've read that grass yield doesn't change depending on fertilizer 1 or 2 state. Would love to see the yields of both states with this test bed. Also after a few mows, a grass field will still say 'needs lime'. Would love to see if that impacts the yield.

Favorite map so far myself and thank you for this information good sir

Wow that surprised me too! I think I'll stick with corn and grass for chaff! Thank Mr. SealyP!

Great video. Informative. You did the hard work for us.

Amazing test Mr.Sealyp Grass is the best with less re-investment of time and money. Thank you for taking the time to make this great video and sharing it, this helps tremendously with planning.

Great video, I have always wondered about this. I think I will stick to grass though. A mower setup with a loading wagon is a fair bit cheaper than a forage harvester.

@piranha5211

5 жыл бұрын

Yup; it's still the best way to go in early game as well. Grass never needs reseeding, only needs one fertilizing cycle, and never needs plowing. Plus it grows faster than anything else. It's simply the easiest bang for the buck. I only chaff corn when I have a huge cow operation and want to produce silage fast and in great quantity.

Corn is king. Everyone knows that. BULL. Most of us figured but weren’t positive so I for one truly appreciate your video. Thanks Sealy!!

Hi amazing vid and thanks , nice to have a Brit doing tutorials for a change .

I've always looked at this way. If your in a bind and need a lot of silage as soon as possible go corn. But for the long term production of silage for continuous support of the cattle, grass is the way to go. Takes an extra piece of machinery depending on how you cut and pick it up. But the long term investment return is far superior to corn. In my mind corn is good for silage when you are running really low and get in a bind, or just starting your cattle population and need to get that quick big influx of feed to get you going on milk production and sell cows as they breed. I haven't made a huge cow population in FS 19. But in 17 I have 258 head currently. I have 2 fields in grass and rotate back and forth between using it for hay and silage. Saves time and the money for the hired workers by eliminating the need to plow each time as you would with corn. Again long term investment far superior with grass over corn

10 out of 10 for this info mate,very good well thought out,keep slinging on the slurry,,grass for me,,,,

Thank you Mr SealyP. I use grass for making silage and on Stevie's Fenton Forest map you can make digestate from grass so the fertilising costs are minimal. Regards James.

Thanks for doing this test! Good idea and very informative. I agree on grass being best for silage still.... there's a reason why the Irish love there grass silage

Fantastic video mrsealy p What about foraging the crop before it's ready to for harvest? I seen people do oats while still green

Thanks for this test video always been curious on this.

This is helpful, thanks for doing this video!

What would be nice also is to compare yield and straw between weat, barley and oat if you didn’t done it. For people like me who need straw more than the crops for animal bedding and food (TMR).

@andrewinbody4301

5 жыл бұрын

I didn't test the difference between wheat and barley on '17 but I did test fertilizing states. Straw was the same regardless of plowing and fertilizing state. Only the crop yield changed.

Anyone watch 'In the Tall Grass' on Netflix and just think, "Wow, look at all that grass. I bet it'd make great silage!" Kinda ruined the movie when I kept waiting for a mower to come by....

@miningzeus7252

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I did too xD

Nice as always

Excellent work

Another great vid! thanks MrSP !

when Seasons are out, you can get 2 or 3 cuts of grass in a single season while you can only get 1 of corn. You do need to mow it multiple times, but no soil prep is needed so that kind of evens them out in terms of labour.

That is nice to know! Thank you! 😉😉👍

Came here to get my question answered, and you did that. Was setting up for corn,,but will now sell off my expensive machines and go for a cheap ass mower instead ^^ Should have looked here first. =P Nice vid, thanks got yourself a like o7

Great vid Mr SP - there are comments below saying grass can be done with a mower and forage wagon, but this won’t generate chaff, just grass. You have mowed it and then foraged it, so chopped it into chaff. Is there a comparison between same strip of grass mowed and forage wagon collected, then put in a clamp (believe you can do that) and as you have done it? Different product should end up in the trailer/forage wagon, so presumably there will be a difference in the volume? That would be interesting test. More mod reviews please! Brilliant videos - I used to favour another KZreadr but you have a greater knowledge on farming!

Very helpful video mate

Great test! We trust your tests.

@andrewinbody4301

5 жыл бұрын

I like a good fair test too.

Awesome videos and great info

Great test pretty much knew the result but it was nice to know anyway thanks for that have a great day

Great video thanks for the tips

awesome vid, I always was curious as I only ever cut grass all day every day for silage. once its in it only needs one fertilizer pass each cut, once I have the money i use the grass mower header for forage harvester with raydon trailers. also if I'm not mistaken if you unload it into a compatible silo it unloads as hay. I used to use that setup on ravenport way back before any patches

Great video/test...love the set up! Have you done a test on amount of yield having weeds/plowing and lime turned off, but doing 2 fertilizer runs vs having them turned on and taking care of all three + doing the 2 fertilizer runs. I wonder, because there is more cost and time involved with lime/plowing and weeds on vs off, so you would think the yield would be more...but it would take a test to know for certain. ;)

@mperk12000

5 жыл бұрын

If I remember correctly turning plowing, lime, and weeds off make the yield count obsolete for those. In which case the would give the full yield as if they were done. I could be wrong, but that was my understanding from previous research on the subject.

@nunya5084

5 жыл бұрын

@@mperk12000 well, by reading the in game helps...plowing and weeds can give a deficit if turned on and not taken care of, but lime is included in adding to yield if done. So i can see not getting the deficit to yield if plowing and weeds are turned off, but I wonder if the lime would add or not.

I figured that corn would be #1 was not sure how the rest would do thanks for finding out for us. Also patch 1.4.1 is coming out Monday for consoles and that should fix the forage help issues fyi.

a cool test MrSealyP 😊👍

Idk why but ur rlly satisfying to listen to

Nice video!

Another great MSP video, thank you sir! I was wondering if you have any interest in testing the theory that many commenters have mentioned here, that you are better off in the long run doing grass for silage. Cost wise it is better but would grass overtake corn in quantity over time considering the additional time with plowing and planting. Also how would they compare if you didn't plow and only fertilized once?

Great vid,great info.thank you

Saved me doing it so cheers bug guy

@andrewinbody4301

5 жыл бұрын

I like a good fair test too.

great job was a big help to me thanks

I’m wondering if those headers will come in handy with seasons. I know it has crop rotations, getting caught between ‘good’ silage crops with no silage for TMR might make the decision for you to chaff a certain crop even though it may not be highest yield, but that’s better than unproductive cows.

Great video as always, you have proved that not all mods are worth downloading 😁

in game corn when it is still green before fully ripe yields more for silage than when it has dies off and is ready for harvesting with a combing. i think same aplies for cerial crop if you are going to whole crop silage it

Brilliant and fascinating :)

Iv just started on FS... this is a great test...

Well done👍

There are some more advantages of grass then that it grows forever: no replowing needed ever. Then only one 'harvesting tool' needed for all uses, this means you mow it and then decide AFTERWARDS what to do with it: store it at grass, dry it to hay, ferment it to silage. Whereas with all the crops you have to decide BEFORE harvesting: harvest as crop or as chaff? Then you need a crop harvester with header(s) and an additional forage harvester. So if you only need it to feed one cow enclosure, I'd say go for grass. Thanks for testing that in detail - I kind of expected these results, but I really had thought that sunflowers would be close to corn and better yielding than grass if not even more than corn, as if you compare the plants in real - there is a lot more mass in these plants as this test would let you think (at least for me it is hard to believe that corn has five times the amount of a comparable sunflower)!

Also with grass, you only need a mower and forage wagon. No expensive forage harvester required. Interesting vid 😀

Good test ☝🏻

It's generally a tie between corn and grass. Grass is king when it comes to feeding cattle, since it produces the grass, hay, and silage you need to feed them. Grass does have a downside in that, with budget equipment, does have a habit of tying up your tractors with things like windrowing, tedding, baling, wrapping, and general manual management. Corn choppers just hucks it all in a trailer for the silo with no fuss. When the bunkers are full, you can crop the rest for cash.

you could do a test seeing what crops can be harvested before they are ripe for silage like the cereals and corn. i am supersized how low the sunflower yield was

Can u do a spread sheet and bang it on your fb page so u can always look back and ref it ? Gr8 video

Very interesting if running seasons you can get 3 cuts of grass per season i do early cut hay when weather is right if it rain its silage and make hay on second cut in that summer but that can clash with harvest of combine crops and always get late cut of grass for silage making . You may all ready done this but need to look at crop yield less inputs seed fert etc on a given acreage to see where most profit is

Thank you for the video.

Even the video is a year old, thanks its informative^^

Why not see if anything changes putting the oil seed down first as that only came out in fs17 and is meant to help with yield

can you chaff the straw from the wheat, barley, oats etc...

Great test Mr Sealyp, thanks - Question 30k of Chaff from GRASS, but if you just mowed that grass and picked t up, what quantity would you get - so would it be better to put chaff in a bunker or just plain grass? I never even thought about chaff from grass and all this time I just put grass into a bunker. Hmm.

@myidashish

3 жыл бұрын

There is no chaff from grass. Its the grass only

Thanks for the great video

Yea would like to see how hay stacks up with grass ! Just saying lolz.. so grass hmm kinda makes sense and mite be big help on seasons mod! You could plant grass around all of your fields and then add it to the corn at end of the year!