Lazy susans have been around forever because a good susan properly installed is still the most elegant and cost-effective use of a difficult space. I tell my kitchen clients: "There are no *good* blind corner cabinet solutions. You may choose from a list of increasingly bad and expensive blind corner cabinet solutions." Half-moon, peanut or figure-8 shelves sacrifice 50% of the cabinet volume, and they are just as likely to dump stuff as a susan is. Shuttling baskets require six actions to deploy. This hardware can run up to $1500. A full round susan is accessible with a 9" wide diagonal door; a pie cut susan with double-hinged door is superbly functional. Either costs about $100 per cabinet for polymer shelves, $200 for wood (plywood, and yuck) shelves. As Jo notes below, back access is the best solution to a peninsula corner cabinet. You can create a pullout on heavy slides if under a bar overhang, so you don't need to crawl. As Jo says, these spaces are great for occasional dishes & serving trays, table linens, and rarely-used gear like chafing dishes.

@thomasmcfarland8199

11 ай бұрын

Absolutely!

We added a door on the dining room side of our corner cabinet so we could pull festive occasion dishes out easily but store them when not in use! Best solution ever!

@thematerialbar

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Jo, thanks for tuning in! Love that option!!

@thekirksiffs5285

5 ай бұрын

we have something like that too.

@CC-1204

4 ай бұрын

Love this idea!!!

As a real estate investor who does a lot of rehabs this was such a great video explaining the Lazy Susan. Awesome share!

@thematerialbar

3 жыл бұрын

Hey Jason thanks so much for watching!! Love real estate!

My daughter is a Susan, and takes offense at the term "lazy Susan". We called them "Industrious Susans" in our household. Or just plain old turntables.

I have a small kitchen and the corner-less cabinet option totally changes everything!

@thematerialbar

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Kristina! Yes, thanks for tuning in!

Thank you for this great video. I have a corner Lazy Susan that I love but I always lose pieces of Tupperware back behind. These new options are great to think about!

@thematerialbar

3 жыл бұрын

That's funny, I've heard that before. Thanks for watching!!

I hope everyone enjoys these ideas for their corner cabinet sections!!

It was a little flimsier than I expected. I had to add a 2x2 piece of wood to the bottom on the rear side in order to stabilize it better kzread.infoUgkxXTh-lz-8W6GcB219vTLp27-MxbZYObBX . It is also starting to bow a little at the outer wall ( I've had it up for about 6 months), I've already had a shelf tumble down because of the bow and the fact that the little shelf brackets are quite short. I went out to home depot and got some longer ones so that the shelves don't tumble down again. Overall, it looks very nice for the price and it holds a lot ( I use it as a pantry). I am very satisfied with my purchase. I just strongly suggest reinforcing it before putting it up.

@thematerialbar

11 ай бұрын

thanks for watching!!

This is so informative, thank you for sharing this.

@thematerialbar

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching Marie!

Wow! This is brilliant! Thank you!

@thematerialbar

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and leaving your comment!! :-)

Love these ideas! Lazy Susans drive me crazy

@thematerialbar

3 жыл бұрын

LOL right?? Thanks for watching!!

love these ideas! so informative

@thematerialbar

3 жыл бұрын

Hey Ortal, thanks for watching!!

Hi! Love all your videos! Thank you very much for sharing. In general, by adding more drawers to the kitchen cabinets is more expensive than doors?

@thematerialbar

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Sarel! Thanks for watching! Yes, in general drawer boxes are more expensive than standard boxes with doors since the drawer hardware for the guides is more spendy and it's just more work in the factory. Don't forget though how much more functional drawers are, so maybe worth it for your kitchen?? Good luck and take care!

Or that could be some mini office drawers, or a drop zone/charging station from the other side. I look at my corners and know I can do better things with them from the other side of the cabinetry, not use them for the kitchen at all! One backs onto the dining room, and the other the main entry to my condo. So glad designers like you are starting to be more flexible and less precious about dedicated kitchen functions for those voids.

@thematerialbar

Жыл бұрын

Hey Vikki, thanks for watching and giving your input!!

@LaUnicaEsperanza

Жыл бұрын

The *commenters* are sharing great ideas!

I believe the “peanut” shelving is also called “Le Mans.”

@thematerialbar

4 ай бұрын

Interesting thanks!!

Wow! These are great solutions ! I have one corner in my kitchen design and builder suggested to place the sink there. What are your thoughts?

@thematerialbar

3 жыл бұрын

If you end up with the sink very close to the corner you may not be able to utilize the corner at all. I've did a few kitchens with the sink in the corner and sometimes the layout will not give you another option. I don't thinks it's an ideal spot as you are limited with the size of your sink. The larger you want it the further it has to sit back in the cabinet and / or you'll have to cut into your cabinets.

@anaidyhomerovillarreal672

3 жыл бұрын

@@thematerialbar excellent point. Thank you so much !!!!

@orangedevil1006

2 жыл бұрын

Don’t expect builders to be designers :)

I wish your video explained what solutions would work for blind UPPER cabinets.

@thematerialbar

Жыл бұрын

Hi Susan! Great tip and I'll make a note to add it to another video topic in the future. Thanks much for watching!!

Love watching these videos before I remodel. I’m 75 and am having trouble utilizing the top corner cabinet. Thing disappear in the side areas and the back ,on top, is so far back it’s useless. Is there anything that I could choose to help my access or do I just wrote it off.

@thematerialbar

11 ай бұрын

Hi Sheila! Thanks for watching!! I’m happy to hear you are enjoying the videos ☺️ I suggest using a square wall corner cabinet. These days it will have a double hinged door almost like a lazy Susan and you will be able to see & access the full cabinet. I hope this helps!! ☺️

The base magic corner seems very practical. Is it easy and smooth to operate?

@thematerialbar

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!! Yes it is, operates with blum soft close hinges and works beautiful!

What do you think about putting a wall oven in a corner

@thematerialbar

3 жыл бұрын

You know it's a bit tricky...you end up loosing a lot of space surrounding a diagonal tall unit sitting in a corner. I know most designers usually shy away from it. I'm not saying a clear no just really lay it out with blue tape in your kitchen to see how it will impact your space. I hope this helps, thanks for watching!!

Help! I’ve been banging my head trying to figure something out. My corner cab has my sink. Ergo I keep cleaning products under it. But it’s always getting messed up. I had created boxes for organizing in the interim. But I need something! The cupboard door is angled as well. It’s a really big cupboard. I want to use as much of it as I can. I worry a standard lady Suzanne won’t be good to push up into my sink and the bottom of the cupboard. I like the pull out idea but is there a way to have a pull out on each side? I can’t really fit 2 layers of cleaning products due to their heights and clashing with the sink. They can fit around it but not under. Hoping you have advice.

@thematerialbar

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Shannon!! Thanks for watching and leaving your comment. I also store quick reach cleaning products under my sink, well let me correct that...my husband because he's the chef in our kitchen - HA! I like to first cut in a sink liner as it helps prevent keeping my cabinet bottom protected from liquid. Not just in the event my plumbing should ever give up but also from cleaning bottles cleaning. In every sink base I've ever had I have a sink liner like this installed first: www.amazon.com/Resilia-Diamond-Plate-Under-Black/dp/B07G59DVRX/ref=sr_1_20?crid=E5QNWR2TA69K&keywords=sink%2Bcabinet%2Bliner&qid=1655875722&sprefix=sink%2Bcabinet%2Bliner%2Caps%2C125&sr=8-20&th=1 And then I have at least one of the cleaning pull out organizers installed on top of it. Keeps the sink liner nice in place and I love pulling items out towards myself. These organizers have a smaller top tray to help keep clearance for your plumbing: www.amazon.com/Under-Cabinet-Organizer-Tksrn-Basket/dp/B08S7BFH8W/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?keywords=sink%2Bcabinet%2Borganizer&qid=1655875804&sprefix=sink%2Bcabinet%2B%2Caps%2C135&sr=8-2-spons&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExNUxMT1hBV05RVTdGJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMzA4NDA0MkJKUjlFODZLMTY1SCZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwMzY1MDMzMlRQME1FOFdSRE9TOCZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU&th=1 It's always important to measure the clearance space you have in your current sink base though to make sure everything will fit. I hope this helps and thanks so much for watching!! Kerstin

@crazysmiler

2 жыл бұрын

@@thematerialbar that liner is a neat idea. I’ve bypassed those shelves before though taking a closer look it’s not a bad idea. I think what deterred me is I have an abundance of cleaning supplies. I love having everything under the sun. I’m so bad. I had misplaced my measuring tape but once I find it I’ll see what I have to work with and shelves. Reply if you find any other ideas.

@thematerialbar

2 жыл бұрын

@@crazysmiler Sounds like a plan and you'll be surprised how much you can fit in there, especially if you have room for two!!

@crazysmiler

2 жыл бұрын

@@thematerialbar oh man I do have space. I made these box baskets years ago n they weren’t bad but from people just shoving things in and the weight has taken its toll. I hope to find something inexpensive soon.

I'm surprised you did not suggest a vertical lift for corner dead space

With the peanut and magic corner designs, I won't be able to reach past them to get pieces that fell off in the back.

@thematerialbar

2 жыл бұрын

Hi there, yes you can actually reach back there. I have dealt with many of those and we have them installed at our showroom. It's quite accessible. I hope this helps!!

@llkg9

2 жыл бұрын

@@thematerialbar Thanks for the reply! I'm 4'11" so I don't have much reach (unless my kids are around to lend their long arms). Do you think a tiny person can still reach back there?

@thematerialbar

2 жыл бұрын

@@llkg9 Hi !! You might not reach the very back corner but you should still be able to get in there. But the trays also have sides so things shouldn't be constantly falling off the tray. 🙂

@llkg9

2 жыл бұрын

@@thematerialbar Thank you!

@thematerialbar

2 жыл бұрын

@@llkg9 You're most welcome!!

What do you do when you already have a lazy Susan and want to change it.

@thematerialbar

10 ай бұрын

Hi, there is not much you can do when you have a lazy susan in place really....unless you actually swap out your cabinets.

Thank you for explaining the square inches of wasted space for abandoning the corner

Besides losing the entire corner, I don't think any of the other solutions make sense for a rental unit. I could put open shelves on top but the base is a tough nut to crack.

@thematerialbar

2 жыл бұрын

thanks for watching Marina. True, corners are always tough for using the space in the best way.

The problem I have is finding 1 that will fit my cupboard, as my door width is to small for them all and sometimes my depth. 😭 even the ones shown here won't fit. As all need minimum 40cm door width mine is a random 37cm. Can't change the door or expand it all.. anyone ideas what I can do?? As it's big 3ft length waste cupboard

@thematerialbar

Жыл бұрын

Yes, the size of the blind corner does have to be a minimum size for this to fit which is why this is mostly all part of the initial cabinet planning stage.

@snowywinterforest2507

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your reply.. Unfortunately I didn't have a choice in this. And currently not able to redo the kitchen. It would be the perfect kitchen if it was down to me , can see the kitchen of my dreams now😍🥰 but have to make do and improve what is here xx

@thematerialbar

Жыл бұрын

@@snowywinterforest2507 I totally get it 🙂 Thank you for watching friend!!

Can you just open up the corner cabinet with both doors to show both sides. That way you can see. Put in shelves. No stile and then you can see what is there.

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@thematerialbar

9 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching 🙂

I was unaware that there were varieties of cabinet!

@thematerialbar

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching and leaving a comment!

You didn’t really explain “losing the corner.. what can I use instead of a blind base and lazy Susan? I don’t want to put a cabinet there at all

@thematerialbar

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Tamara, thanks for tuning in!! Not having a corner base at all, or "VOIDING" the corner is also an option and will give you more room for larger cabinets on both sides of the corner. You just have to spec for 3" fillers on both sides where the inside corner meets to have enough clearance for all adjacent cabinets to full function. I hope this helps!

Typical karen down talking the lazy susan that regardless of how long it has been around it’s as versatile as always

@thematerialbar

7 ай бұрын

it really is one of the best solutions and the most cost effective!

your not showing us anything new. i was expecting some new. same old same old !

@thematerialbar

3 жыл бұрын

I can't wait to see fun new things either!! I'll report back if I see something :-)

@llkg9

2 жыл бұрын

Respectfully, not everyone is as informed as you are, and we all start somewhere. That said, I know we're all hoping for new solutions to old problems.

4 "solutions," one of which was "nothing. Lose the space." No decision-making criteria shared for any of them, *except an off-camera description for the "no solution" option. ☹️ Not helpful.

I have used cabinets that have only two shelves inside. The door has a piano hinge and opens wide. I found the cabinets good for large items. I also have used them for upper corners.When you have a piano hinge on the door you have great access to the cabinet. I really hate the lazy susan cabinets and the uppers with the angled fronts.

@thematerialbar

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for tuning in!