I never in my life heard that the sundown e series isn't recommended for sealed boxes. I learn something new every day.

Thank you very much for this good unbiased review with the sound testing also, very complete. Has found out that Kicker is not that popular, but wonder why...

Im running two wov3 an on kicker at 1.33 ohms since 2012 on fosgate 700s. I'm impressed

Great Video.. this is how it should be.. During Covid, I went through about 7 different Subwoofers in my Car, all powered with 1500 Watts, Ive had in Dual 10 and 12 ported enclosures Fosgate P2, Skar EVL, Skar SDR, Sundown LCS and E, Kicker Com R, JL w3, infinity Perfect (amazing) and Allpine S and type R.. I ended up selling everything else and Kept 2 10 Type Rs! I guess my taste has changed as I want Loud and Great Sound. The W3s sounded on Par... but I sold them for Top $ to fund this little Covid Project. and The SKAR EVL (in Skars Huge Heavy Box) which I totally felt the weight in my 500hp vehicle.. The EVLs were CRAZY loud...but did not Sound good at all.. its possible I didnt let them Break in long enough but the Weight and SQ was a No for me. I honestly think the type R (version before the current) is the best Blend for getting Loud but staying composed and sounding Good with all types of Music. again this is my Personal Opinion. I always wanted to try the SSA Demon subs and I hear great things of the NVX Vcw (Carbon fiber look) as their FS is low @ 28hz even on a 10. I do favor 10s as the smaller enclosure is better suited for my vehicle especially being ported.

Would love a 10 inch comp as well.

I had 3 jl wo-v3's in a 5.25cu ft ported box(port was 10w x 4h x 16.5 deep) below center woofer in a 06 nissan maxima hooked to an Orion 225 HCCA and it was pretty loud for that little amp. I also used the sub channel of my XTANT X603 on them too and both amps sounded about equal. The Orion seemed to have a little more punch to it though. Box parameters were given to me by Carlos Chavez at JL Audio tech support.

You can get that JL in a JL Audio tuned box for $299.00 and it sounds spectacular! I've had 2 of them with a slash 500/1 and a 1 of them with a RF punch 500/1 and both sound great. I think the JL Audio is a best bet with the factory box. I have a 10" and now they're in 2 cars and both have more bass than I can handle (I like to hear the music) so I go JL and you should too you won't be disappointed.

Thank you reviewing how they sound

I was about to go buy that JL sub and then decdito watch this video. Looks like im still searching for a decent sub

I have a 2021 Tundra with a 4.2 ft cubic box, ported for dual 12's. I've done a ton of research and pretty much narrowed down my choice to 2 woofers that you've featured here on the channel and wanted your opinion. Memphis Mojo Pro 12 or Sundown Ev4 12 Any reply would be appreciated

Yo Mike I have a 2015 Nissan Altima and my sound went out i I’m looking to replace my front door speakers. can you recommend me one speaker that you think would go best. I have a aftermarket radio no amp. 🙏🏽

So how would any of them compare to a nvx vcw? Or a dayton ultimax?

Do high end stuff, why always low end. To everyone that reads this by no means am I putting anyone down or their builds I am just curious of other level products

@TokenTombstone

Жыл бұрын

most of us live here on the low end

@681_fuq

Жыл бұрын

@@TokenTombstone I understand budget, it’s just some of us don’t and have nice things and would never put that into our vehicles. This must be for teenagers because once you become an adult And drive a 30000+ ride you want quality that’s all I’m saying no disrespect intended but let’s see some non basic.

@BreakersStereo

Жыл бұрын

I’m glad to see we have some viewers that can appreciate better equipment. We can definitely get more into the higher end equipment. We haven’t featured a lot of high end equipment and we should mix it up. Thanks for the comment!!

@marcuslinton310

Жыл бұрын

If you think only high end stuff sounds good, you must also be high. High end only sounds great if you prep the vehicle to perfection as well, otherwise it makes little difference. And if you do that same level of prep with standard grade stuff you'll also get great sound. High end is for suckers and ego's, which tend to go hand and hand.

@681_fuq

Жыл бұрын

@@marcuslinton310 well that’s your opinion I would have to disagree but your right it’s the setup but then again not all speakers are capable of doing what others are so my opinion is this that you have never heard nice high end stuff that is sq. I would never put low end products or base line in my 100000 truck if you would that’s fine but I wouldn’t

I run 2x JL 12W0v3-4 12" subwoofers in my SQ build. Reaaaaally clean sounding subs and comes from a brand known for high end sound quality.

@plark7323

Ай бұрын

Ya he definitely didn't have that jl hooked up right. I run 3 10's and it pounds.

@jpfarris33

9 күн бұрын

Ya I have the JL AUDIO bass wedge 10" . I had 2 in my sedan with a slash 500/1 and it was as much bass as I could handle. Now I have 1 and a RF punch 500/1 and it sounds spectacular! I am planning on replacing to a 12" bass wedge JL with the slash 500/1 and I am looking forward to it. They say when in doubt always go 12" so I am gonna see. JL has my money they just make such good stuff and for such a long time. How's your 12"? Low and punch sealed, ported etc.?

@jpfarris33

9 күн бұрын

​@@plark7323JL is the best IMHO. I have been an audiophile since 1995 and RF was my introduction and I still think they perform great but JL has been my go to for a long time now and nothing beats them. People have for a long time hear my slash 500/1 with one JL Wo3 and can't believe it's just a 300 watt sub. JL is the best BANG for your buck for sure.

A great subwoofer is only good as the box !!!!! !!!! Hands down 💯Don’t matter how much you spend!!!!!!!!!!! Kicker hands down for me 😉👍🏽

@davidlavalle7583

2 ай бұрын

I agree I've had my comp r 12 for 4 yrs now with my cxa 800.1 pushing it for everything it's worth everyday with no issues great combo

Can pioneer be considered against JL subwoofer. And where does pioneer subwoofer stands?

Bashing a 300 watt sub, but i bet the JL will last longer than that sundown, still haven't seen a sundown that doesn't burn out!

Looking to run dual 12" JL subs similar to the skar EVL subs any suggestions

Thank you, for this video. It helped me to make up my mind, in which subwoofer to buy. I have the Pioneer DMH-W4660NEX head unit, alpine s series speakers in the doors and in the backseat and an alpine Amp.

@BreakersStereo

Жыл бұрын

Yeah! Glad you enjoyed it. So what sub are you gonna get??

@jessecortez9202

Жыл бұрын

@@BreakersStereo the alpine. I figure, since I have alpine speakers and an alpine, I might as well get the alpine sub.

@Grommet2007

Жыл бұрын

@@jessecortez9202 If I had to choose from the subs tested, I'd probably go with the Alpine as well (I might be biased - I use two 12" Type Rs in a sealed box in my car, LOL). It was tested in the smallest box, so its measured SPL might have been impacted by that (the old "Iron Law" at work). However, with its larger voice coil and greater Xmax (16mm), it should produce the loudest and cleanest bass if given enough power.

@onesikm3

6 ай бұрын

I’ve never had the alpine type S woofer tested in this video but I’ve had all type s cabin speakers and i was so impressed with the sound back then (this was pre2012) that I had to complete the package but instead I went with the type r 12” woofer and a Sony xplod amplifier that looked like a tube down the center of it lol and man that thing shook the entire car for over 5 years! Now I feel stupid that I threw it away because the cone punctured from flying around in my trunk so many times self inflicted damage brought that thing out of commission once it started to sound as if it were blown 😂 and I got to say good Shit alpine !!! I knew nothing about anything back then and it never skipped a beat!! All I knew then was that the gain is the volume knob and we had them beotchz cranked up to the moon LMAOO 🚀

@Demoric152

4 ай бұрын

​@@jessecortez9202 Being a year later, how are you liking apline type s sub?

I have that same Kicker 12 and wasnt happy with the bass until i plugged the port. Its a night and day difference. When i had a temp cover over the port and was playing really loud the bass dropped of dramatically and i could figure out why and then i noticed the port cover fell out. For hip hop music I've always found sealed boxes to perform MUCh better for those low deep notes

@BreakersStereo

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for the info!

sundown E-12 or American bass E-1222???

Infinity makes excellent high note speakers.

Rate the top 10 inch square subs.

Alpine all day. Smallest boxes and unquestionable build quality.

Thanks for the comparison man! I know you didn't test in Sealed enclosures, but could you say what your pick would be in a sealed box based on your experience with car audio and these subs? I'm more of a all sound quality person, not interested in spl really

@johnnycorn7225

Жыл бұрын

Bro I've been a sealed addict for the longest time and no question you need the stereo integrity SQL 12. So much less distortion than normal drivers special xbl2 motor structure, super high sensitivity at 92 DB on the 12, I mean flawless sound quality check out the video where they got $162 decibels out of two of the 15s. They might be more than 200 but they are so worth it

@mackenziebullied4900

10 ай бұрын

@@johnnycorn7225 only ever heard of xbl2 tweeters lol gotta check that out

I have a 1991 2 door jeep Cherokee I wanted to know what I'm gonna need for a sound system. I have 4 speakers and deck that were upgraded from stock by the previous owner. I wanna put better door speakers and 2 12 inch subs. I'm new to audio so I'm not too sure what I need to finish the system. Any help is appreciated.

@lloydhudson6463

5 ай бұрын

If you haven't done anything yet, Crutchfield would be a great starting point.

I have the kicker key 500.1 and the 12” CompR ported enclosure. Could I get the 12” JL basswedge for that amp? My Q5 is picky with Amps. How different would the basswedge sound? The CompR drowns the rest of the system and I have the premium speaker that audi has. I remember 20 years ago my ex girlfriend’s brother had JL 12” sub running 200W. That thing hit hard in low volumes. Felt like a heart attack with each thump. I’m trying to find something like that.

@oginmylungssmokingclean9225

4 ай бұрын

The old days in cold damp night with your mates smoking a bong with bass

The Image Dynamics ID12 should have been on the list IMO as it sounds better than all the subs you reviewed except for maybe the JL I feel.

Was the Alpine tested in a smaller box? Would love to see what it would have done with the same box as the others.

@Guerito4life

Ай бұрын

I put an alpine S-series 12 in @ 2ohms in 2.5ft³ spl box to test out limits and it sounded loud and smooth.. did a whole lot better than expected.. box makes all the difference.. bought used on eBay for $80 bucks

Do you think the order would change at all if you had tested the subs in a sealed enclosure?

@253SB3ST

Жыл бұрын

almost as sure as the sun is gonna come up tomorrow :) im just talking shit... but yeah im pretty sure things would be a little different with sealed considering some of these subs weren't even recomended for a sealed box

@RemingtonSteel

2 ай бұрын

I have that same kicker in the same box. I wasn't happy with the punchy sounding bass and then I plugged the port and my god does that sub hit hard. Ported, my rear view mirror barely moved. When I played it in the sealed version of the box, my mirror shakes like crazy. So I always keep something in the port yo simulate a sealed box

Josh please recommend between DD audio 512 ,JL 12W0,or Ground zero which would sound good

@BreakersStereo

9 ай бұрын

Which ground zero?

@tanukapoor2255

9 ай бұрын

You recommend the models of Ground zero. Iam currently using Rockford R1 sealed enclosure from pioneer 8704 amplifier

@tanukapoor2255

9 ай бұрын

I want to upgrade my car stereo

Great comparison, it would be cool to see this done with 10 and 8 inch subs as well.

@BreakersStereo

Жыл бұрын

Yeah. Maybe on another video this one was pretty long… thanks for the suggestion!

@gustavogo2915

Жыл бұрын

@@BreakersStereo Just installed my new 12” JLAudioW0V3 in a 1.5 Cu Ft Sealed Box and not impressed at all. My 10” Rockford Fosgate P1 in its ported box sounded better and twice as Loud. I felt the bass much more on the 10”Rockford Fosgate P1. The 12” JLAudio W0V3 sounds anemic. Do you recommend I return it and get a Rockford Fosgate P2 instead? I would probably be using the 1.5 Cu Ft box as I’m not sure I can return that too. Everything is connected to a 5 Channel Alpine Amp . Thank you and great content

@253SB3ST

Жыл бұрын

@@gustavogo2915 dog a ported box will blow away a seald box every single time especially if tuned correctly... ported boxes are what you want always if output is your top priority or even a small priority... if sq is your thing sealed is okay but I still think ported boxes are better even for sq you just gotta amp and upgrade your mids and highs to match the output of theported sub!!!!! anyway put that dub 3 in a ported box tuned to 33 hrtz anti will get just as loud and sound even better than that p1 guaranteed my friend

@oscarishandsome5150

11 ай бұрын

I have sundown e10. They slam video on channel

after 1 min I knew who would win . You appear not to be neutral in comparing. More profit for you when selling Sundown and Memphis products ?

I hear good things about American Bass, Sundown, and Rockville K9 (if you run it at 800 watts or below).

I own sundown x12's I was hoping they pulled it off 🔈🔉🔊🔊

@BrandonKTG

Жыл бұрын

Sundown FTW!

@vatican35

Жыл бұрын

Me too. They shit on everything else all the other brands mentioned make and still sound amazing doing it

@gabrielgalaxygh

10 ай бұрын

​@vatican35 if you're just looking for bass then yeah. JL the best sounding though. Only ones that have patents and do R an D. The rest just buy baskets and parts from China and also then together from China

@delvinchandler

10 ай бұрын

@gabrielgalaxygh I had jl before they sound good, but they are mainly made of plastic. The sundowns are beefy and they should good to me. I now people who blew the w7 13.5 on recommendationed power, im in my 40s been threw alot of equipment. But I love your opinion. Thanks 👌🏿

@gabrielgalaxygh

10 ай бұрын

@@delvinchandler what part of jl is mainly plastic? And jl always under rates their subs. You full of it

Love the videos dog would love to see some skar audio reviews

@BreakersStereo

Жыл бұрын

Thanks man. We’ll get to some skar gear soon

@joshholden8561

Жыл бұрын

There's a million skar reviews . The world pretty much knows what all skar subs are capable of.

Audio pipe, skar, and american bass would be some nice additions

@henrywal

9 ай бұрын

People don't like Skar for exposing bass heads as brand poser's

American bass Elites are the best subs for money. It will crush these all and they sound great.

@PatientXero607

8 ай бұрын

AB, CT, and SKAR can't handle the endurance that the prime manufacturers use in their testing. The only off-brand that would make the cut is Deaf Bonce.

I'm looking at the sundown E 12

@BreakersStereo

Жыл бұрын

Get it!!!

@DarrinLintz710

Жыл бұрын

Definitely the best woofer in the video. I have 2 and they are loud and sound good.

@TokenTombstone

Жыл бұрын

@@DarrinLintz710 Thanks for the reply. It's nice to hear from people who have experience with a certain product. It's been a while since I've had a decent system so I've been looking all over for reviews on different products while planning the build.

@DarrinLintz710

Жыл бұрын

@@TokenTombstone I got the d4s 2 e12 loaded box with the jp8 amp. A week later I upgraded amps to a ct sounds at2300. The subs love it. They do get smelly on it tho. I did order a salt3, so when the Es give out I plan on getting sa.

Just installed my new 12” JLAudioW0V3 in a 1.5 Cu Ft Sealed Box and not impressed at all. My 10” Rockford Fosgate P1 in its ported box sounded better and twice as Loud. I felt the bass much more on the 10”Rockford Fosgate P1. The 12” JLAudio W0V3 sounds anemic. Do you recommend I return it and get a Rockford Fosgate P2 instead? I would probably be using the 1.5 Cu Ft box as I’m not sure I can return that too. Everything is connected to a 5 Channel Alpine Amp . Thank you and great content

@adyandrey23andrey

Жыл бұрын

I just bought a JL 12w0v3-4 😢 maybe in my case it will do a better job at playing bass.

@gustavogo2915

Жыл бұрын

@@adyandrey23andrey I returned it and got a much better sub that I’m happy with

Decaf Wiz Khalifa Hustlin. Excellent for testing subs

@BreakersStereo

Жыл бұрын

Got it we’ll use it next time. Thanks!!

I believe the saying goes JL under rates the power, so next time measure it please.

Why no one talks about the G7-12D2 gravity 12s on amazon 2 of them for like $489 4800w each (2400 rms) i have them in a cheap box off amazon as well these su s BUMP!!!

You did a subwoofer test and didn't play magic mike

I'm with Rick shit ridiculous

Be cool if you tried out american bass subs. They are quite beefy for the price. I have a 12" xfl.

The sundown classic 12 is only $149. I think its 750rms

@BreakersStereo

Жыл бұрын

Sundown SA Classic 12” $219 and yes 750 RMS. That’s a hell of a woofer for the $$$!

@charlesreedy9330

Жыл бұрын

@@BreakersStereo my bad, its $149 on their yard sale site.

Where has MTX been???

I would love to do this test live with all the ego maniacs who truly believe they can tell the difference between subs. Subwoofers are going to all sound pretty much the same when setup and powered within proper specs. 50hz is 50hz, so on and so on, you would need meters to see, not hear any difference. If the woofer didn't produce the sound right, it would never make it on the market. The only time things get iffy and woofers start to sound odd is when pushed beyond their specs. People want to cheat the system and want to buy a 500rms woofer and put 800 through it.... 1,500 woofer and put 2,000 through it. That's when certain brands will fall apart over others. But all played within specs, nobody would be able to select which woofer was playing in a blind test. The results would equal the same as guessing. Take a look at Josh Holden below, overpowers and blows all his subs and then complains about the build quality.

I got one 12 sundown zv6 and I'm telling u its a beast......

@samuraijose817

3 ай бұрын

But does your music vocals sound good and clear or is it all bass

@xiongxiongloft5937

3 ай бұрын

@@samuraijose817 super clear

I've owned almost every sub sundown Memphis alpine is my top 3 altho the prices are close the level of sub isn't entry level for each brand is different entry for kicker is a plain comp or fosgate isn't a p2 entry a R1 is entry so that's brands falt like alpine is the bass series other than the company's own price differences it's easy to assume the company with the most performance for the price will win a jl w0 will never compete with another 200 dollar sub it should be a 80 dollar sub at best I e video tho. Also my experience with the subs I've owned I had 2 12 alpine type s they lasted about a hour before coils locked up kicker comp r would get stinky but never damaged Memphis never got damaged jl audio smoked the coils then locked up sundown no damage whatsoever fosgate p3 had 2 sets come unglued on surround and spiders came unglued using provided clamp ring all subs was powered by kicker kxa 2400.1

@marcuslinton310

Жыл бұрын

Typical jerkoff, overpowers and blows all his subs and then complains about their build quality.

@joshholden8561

Жыл бұрын

@@marcuslinton310 pretty much that's why I buy them to abuse them.

@joshholden8561

Жыл бұрын

@@marcuslinton310 no sir rockford p3 2 sets ripped up on a 1500 watt amp after impedance rise they each seen around 360 rms well within range but cry all u like

@joshholden8561

Жыл бұрын

For the price some brands should do alot more like the p3 alpine also

@marcuslinton310

Жыл бұрын

​@@joshholden8561 Keep on keeping on, nobody said to stop abusing your stuff, you paid for it, blow it up all you want. It's just that your opinion on the stuff is F'n pointless because it's based off pushing everything beyond their limits all the time and most speakers will not handle it well over any length of time. BTW, you're the one crying how speakers just can't handle your pathetic abuse, you're just too hardcore man, Mr. badass who maxes everything out, puts things to the test, just to awesome for the rest of the world, you're the man!!. You should join in with Parker the Basshead, he likes to blow speakers for pointless tests.

I mean no offense but use some trap instrumentals to hear simply bass

I'm kicker all the way. I like the square subs better. Kickers last long an have a hard hit. They aren't good for lows. 1 kicker 2 sundown 3 alpine 4 memphis 5 Rockford 6 jl

its called a wzero

try a audiopipie sub they cheap and good

What happen to pioneer?

@BreakersStereo

Жыл бұрын

Lots of good subs at this price point, tough to get them all. Thanks for the comment!

@anthonybrown6143

Жыл бұрын

@@BreakersStereo I can respect that my brother and it's true. Keep making those bomb ass videos, thanks for replying.

Every time they do a video like this I just laugh at what this people think is good.

@lloydhudson6463

5 ай бұрын

Any sub that puts up big decibels is a great speaker to a lot of people.

"JL doesn't get loud enough" you do realize 130 db will damage hearing over time right?

These boxes change so much, should have been all in one box

Not surprised sundown won lol. Saw that coming

Terrible test tonez man pick better songs

All these brands are so outdated except the Sundown! All the others are brands I used in the 80’s & 90’s so can’t even come close to today’s SKAR,Sundown,AmericanBass, products currently and thats just a few I’ve owned and used!🔊❤️

@lloydhudson6463

5 ай бұрын

Outdated brands, that's an interesting thing to say. Do you think brands should just stay in business for a few years and then shut down? I would think every company wants to stay in business for as long as possible.

@bondalero0074

3 күн бұрын

No, I’m still running a new pair of 10” Kicker Gold Comps now and love them! Rockford Fosgate amps pushing them. These 2 brands and JL AUDIO will always be 🔊👑 in my opinion because I’m from the late 80’s/90’s. Just alot of new technology that’s really impressive like Focal, AudioFrog, Morel just to name a few.@lloydhudson6463

No skar subs or american bass

@knifen2478

Жыл бұрын

Skar no goot

@knifen2478

Жыл бұрын

American bass is assembled in Taiwan

@mikec4585

Жыл бұрын

@@knifen2478 what does where it's made have to do with anything

@mikec4585

Жыл бұрын

@@knifen2478 skar evil 12's slam not sure what you are talking about

@knifen2478

Жыл бұрын

I'm just saying "American bass isn't American. And skar sells old tech. Just sayin

None of these are great speakers for the money, your buying the name we all know this and there are new names in the game and they are much better.

Spend $50 more and have a 10" that outperforms all of these lackluster half ass 12's , which would be an American Bass HD-10

Skar is the best sub on the market

@lewokejames

Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@MrT-lh1bw

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

Those are some useless subs for that price

@BreakersStereo

4 ай бұрын

Not in a name brand. Let me guess you’re a skar type of person?!

@nikyclau3966

4 ай бұрын

@@BreakersStereo no here in UK we have dB audio,edge,vibe, ground zero and that JL sub is the most useless sub I ever seen for that money all the above subs I've mentioned are on the same price as JL and you can't compare it to them just saying

American Bass XR 12 1,250 rms can be had for under $200 is a better option vs those cellar dwellers you guy's are pushing.

@johnnycorn7225

Жыл бұрын

Hey man I was actually looking at those and thought they looked very interesting how would you rate the sound quality as I listened to everything

@arizonaf2503

Жыл бұрын

@@johnnycorn7225 I love them. Get loud and sound good.

@matthewguynn5745

Жыл бұрын

So is the hawk.. and the tnt.. and pretty much every ab sub.. lol ab is the undespute budget king.. no questions

@johnnycorn7225

Жыл бұрын

@@matthewguynn5745 I heard it's all the outdated( but still great) digital designs stuff from yesteryear at a good price.

@matthewguynn5745

Жыл бұрын

@@johnnycorn7225 that's correct.. look at the passmag review of the old dd3500.. it exactly a new ab hawk.. basket , the magnet. Cooling drill . Whole 9 yards.. except ab used 4 spiders .. also look at the xfl surroundings.. same

I am speaking on magnet size, foam/rubber surround, basket construction, and RMS handling capabilities of Sundown, Skar, & American Bass subs! But since you are intrigued by my comment I will mention a few that I used in late 80’s & 90’s that haven’t changed designs by much in round subs like MTX, R.F., & Kicker were the big three back then. They pale in comparison with the above mentioned subs and I have purchased and used ALL of them over the years.#❤️🔊@lloydhudson6463

@BreakersStereo

5 ай бұрын

I agree the old school stuff was DOPE made in America! Not like today’s stuff….. the market has changed but it is what it is! Thanks for the comment!