"Monsieur McCollum, it almost sounded at the end as if you wanted to take my extremely rare weapon home with you." "Ah ha ha. No, I just misspoke. Say, does this rag smell like chloroform to you?"

@ronaldh2886

4 жыл бұрын

The Rogue Wolf nah he gonna have one made.

@jabbafo

4 жыл бұрын

@@ronaldh2886 I made it for his sisters brother.

@ronaldh2886

4 жыл бұрын

_ who is I ?

@vandahm

4 жыл бұрын

@@ronaldh2886 He did!

I'll be right back, I need to convert my Remington 700 to take M60 belts.

@meezo9980

5 жыл бұрын

No, do the m60 that is 12 gauge belt fed, it will be a lot better

@thundersh0ck158

5 жыл бұрын

Imagine a LMG shotgun hybrid...

@meezo9980

5 жыл бұрын

@@thundersh0ck158 no, I need a GAU-12 gauge!

@avzed1789

5 жыл бұрын

@@thundersh0ck158 A game already did that...

@thundersh0ck158

5 жыл бұрын

@@avzed1789 what game?

Brilliant! With a regular Berthier a soldier can only fire 3 times before he has to reload. With this magazine he can now fire 4 times before it jams!

@Warptenlololol

5 жыл бұрын

Hahahahahahahaha

@marcomenabue7717

5 жыл бұрын

@@Warptenlololol ez

@yuithgf4524

5 жыл бұрын

i feel like someone hasnt watched ian's video on the chauchat...

@fien111

5 жыл бұрын

@@yuithgf4524 I watched that one and the C&Rsenal video their gunsmith Mark did on repairing those POS magazines (Specifically Ian's!). They're the weakest part of the gun by FAR, the rest works fine.

@yuithgf4524

5 жыл бұрын

my bad. just thought you mixed the normal and 30-06 chauchat magazine problems, as the mle 18's mags were the ones that had the most jamming problems (and by far). its just that ive seen some make that mistake and say it was the mle 15 that jammed all the time

7:24 "It'll be interesting to get this back.. err.. to take a closer look with this in mind" - Ian almost blabbed out a secret desire there.

I don't usually like the "assault weapon" meme but goddamn, this really is a bonafide Compact High-capacity Assault Berthier.

@kabob0077

5 жыл бұрын

This and the Yeet Cannon shall be my go to weapons.

@QUIROPTEROHOLLOW

5 жыл бұрын

"Possible modifications" meme intensifies haha

@mitchellpatterson1829

5 жыл бұрын

Absolutely an awesome historical piece, you can always tell when Ian is presenting, and when he is geeking over something. This is defiantly the latter. However, I should mention that since the barrel is over 16" (US law, may vary internationally) and it is defiantly not full auto this is not an Assault Berthier. Not pointed at you, that word just gets tossed around too freely.

@nothim7321

5 жыл бұрын

@@mitchellpatterson1829 assault weapon has nothing to do with barrel length, just select fire.

@mitchellpatterson1829

5 жыл бұрын

@@nothim7321 It does in the U.S. Any firearm with a rifled barrel (excluding a slug barrel on a 12GA [0.55"] that is configured as a rifle (has a separate grip and stock) must have a barrel over 16" (18" for shotguns). Having a rifle with under a 16" barrel is considered a short barreled rifle, and is classified as an title II weapon (the closest thing we have to a legal definition for assault weapon) under the National Firearms Act of 1934. Interestingly enough, if you have a handgun, and you mount a vertical grip to it, you have "manufactured" an AOW (any other weapon), which is treated as a title II weapon. Slanted grips are not treated as such though, to you can put an AFG on your pistol, and it's legal (I don't recommend trying it). 18 USC 921 There are several other laws, but this covers the bulk of it.

Lol, nice Freudian slip there at 7:24: "So it will be really interesting to get this back... to get... to take a closer look at that with this in mind and see how closely we're able to get the mechanism for converting to the magazine".

I always liked how subtitles spell "Shousha" for the Chauchat.

@dbmail545

5 жыл бұрын

My favorite was the Swiss arsenal translated as "coffee fabfic burn"

Ian: "The perfect gun doesn't exist." Berthier Carbine with Chauchat Magazine:

This looks like a H3VR mashup. I love it.

@Wolvenworks

5 жыл бұрын

we should get anton to make this

@DinnerForkTongue

5 жыл бұрын

Forgotten Weapons cameo when?

@kabob0077

5 жыл бұрын

@@Wolvenworks Send it to him, all shall bear the curse of seeing this.

I saw one of these rifles at the French Army museum in Paris last year. I wrote a comment asking Ian about it in a related video and much to my surprise he responded! He advised he was planning a video highlighting the weapon and here it is 10 months later.

for people who really hate reloading due to the berthier's 3-shot en-bloc

@mohammadwaled409

3 жыл бұрын

And love fixing jams

The replacement was a MAS36 with a Chatellerault magazine, and is the survival rifle issued to Dassault Mirage pilots

@charlesdemers1197

3 жыл бұрын

Does the Armée de l’Air still use the mirage fighter?

A desperate Ian makes searches the French countryside to find Chauchat magazines

this seems like it would make a excellent trench raiding gun if you sealed up the magazine

@Imbeachedwhale

5 жыл бұрын

captain derp Until you try to load the magazines. C&Rsenal has a couple good videos on the Chauchat and its mags (I recommend Anvil 52), and trying to load the magazine without the holes is a nightmare. Add to that how flimsy these magazines are, making them easy to damage especially when you go prone, and this would be a terrible weapon on the ground in any context. Even in the air they preferred the Winchester 1907 and 1910.

You need to run your repro version in one of those 2 gun challenges.

@nicholaspatton5590

5 жыл бұрын

I recall a French pistol with a horseshoe magazine. He should use that with the rifle, for continuity.

Wow, Ian revealing even more of those intriguing guns I saw years ago in Gazette des Armes ... Here have a truckful of likes !!!!

@screaminlordbyron7767

5 жыл бұрын

So why watch?

@rotwang2000

5 жыл бұрын

@@screaminlordbyron7767 Some weapons were usually in full color page spreads, subscription promo without any explanation or briefly discussed in reader's column "Does this take actual Chauchat mags or were they modified ?"

Cheers to the owner for letting you check it out!

It looks like not only the trigger mechanism is a complete build from scratch,the stock also appears to have been built specifically and not converted from an existing stock. I suspect that these were not conversions in the sense of converting an existing rifle, but were new factory production of two things cobbled together. I also wonder if that trigger mech has been refinished. It looked *really* clean.

@sethsherlock9694

5 жыл бұрын

Insert cliche joke about "never fired, dropped once .

Ian: I need this Mark: why Ian: more boolits more fun

@BoitoHunter

5 жыл бұрын

Andy the M320 Guy 8

Did he say he's getting a repro? More WW1 2GACM!

@WonderHogl

5 жыл бұрын

It's Mark Novak from Anvil (C&RArsenal uses him for gunsmithing) that is making him one I believe there is a video on it.

@pyro4squirrel

5 жыл бұрын

@@WonderHogl that's what the link is to

Merci à la Galerie de Mars !

My God, this thing is in flawless condition. What a beautiful rifle.

Impressive piece of firearms history. Equally impressive is your reputation, that a private collector would allow you such access. Keep bringing us these gems.

two of my favorite guns in verdun combined

@blakebramley9171

5 жыл бұрын

Peter Wunstler you’re a mad man, the 1907/15 in Verdun is such a hassle. Lebel is where it’s at

@BobtheHobo324

5 жыл бұрын

@@blakebramley9171 the Berthier may seem like more of a hassle until you have to do a full reload on the Lebel

Next Ian will come up with this and added Howell system for even more firepower. ;-)

@levifontaine8186

5 жыл бұрын

Dang that would actually be amazing

@FumbleSquid

5 жыл бұрын

I instantly thought of that too. I would love to see someone do that (obviously with a reproduction and not an original).

@cheshire4856

5 жыл бұрын

I think they made a select fire version in New Zealand, I would want to see that, not that it would boost the rate of fire or anything, what with all the jams.

That's what you would call a fully boltimatic assault rifle with a large capacity magazine!

Pretty good idea to increase firepower of a single soldier.

@MrSolLeks

5 жыл бұрын

The US also had similar ones, a 1903 with an extended fixed magazine (IIRC 20 rounds as well). I'v seen one in person at a gunshow.

@amirbutcher2147

5 жыл бұрын

Jack Andersen you’re pretty much right, the difference is hardly there. That’s probably why we tended towards semi-automatic weapons for quick firing and detachable magazines for quick reload.

@skygrasper_47

5 жыл бұрын

@@MrSolLeks that must be the 1903 Air Service. It was designed for use in planes, hence the very long fixed magazine

@herosstratos

5 жыл бұрын

AstrraTV Non, non, non, la baïonnette ne manque jamais.

@MILITARY-TUBE

5 жыл бұрын

@@herosstratos Blitzkrieg has verified that :)

Ian finds unrequited love while in Paris. 🥰

I love seeing these interesting stop-gap firearms from the early days of aviation/military aviation. We cant put a machine gun up there, but we can put something that shoots just as many bullets!

My great, great uncle, Air Cmdr D’Arcy Greg was shot down behind enemy lines in France in 1918. I’m sure he’d have appreciated one of these. He made his way home with just a bicycle pump as a weapon! Details are in his autobiography ‘My Golden Flying Years’. If you’re interested in the early history of the RFC/RAF, it’s worth a read.

The idea of this is brilliant, honestly. I kind of wished we had chauchat magazine replicas. Something utterly charming about the style of it. I’d buy a bolt action with one of these myself.

So finally you went there. I was sure that you would come to this shop one day. It's my favorite place to go when I have some free time. It's a real museum there!

Ian is the Bob Ross of obscure ordinance.

a vid showing a bunch of magazine & clip types would be cool ther's a lot of

@idontwanttoputmyname403

5 жыл бұрын

I think he's got a long video on the differences between magazines and clips.

Now we are talking, ive been waiting for a video explaining this weird trench mod for a while.

This has quite a satisfying simplicity to it, having basically to manufacture only one new part and just cut off the rest to fit

Everybody is a gangster, until somebody making a bolt action rifle with Chauchat Magzine.

Ian , nobody has ever done such an astounding job on the french rifles , years after years.You diserve a statue in the Musee des Invalides.

At 4:05 , I'll just assume thats not a Timney flat trigger kit there

@idontwanttoputmyname403

5 жыл бұрын

They make Mosin triggers. One never knows.

Great looking rifle, would be great to see this in action.

That's some very fine machining work

Thank you , Ian .

I suppose the main reason for it was that fumbling with stripper clips, especially three round stripper clips in an airplane or a balloon is quite difficult, so not having to worry about reloading is nice

This is something that seemed incredibly mechanically goofy at first glance but actually makes a good amount of sense when you examine it closely. Very interesting!

But does it take Gl- I mean Chauchat magazines? Oh wait...

Best youtube channel! Thanks Ian!

This gun looks amazing

Hooray! Ian finally did the video!!!

Their is one of those in the Musée de l' Armée on Paris, a very interisting gun to see in person

I love this gun, it's fascinating. to be fair, I have a fascination with firearms and the way they work.

Galerie de Mars has some amazing guns for sale online. True rarities.

I’ve been waiting for this one

Very Cool Carbine Ian !!!!!!

The French put a detachable magazine on a rifle 40+ years before the US.

@ArcturusOTE

5 жыл бұрын

And so did the Brits

@STRAKAZulu

5 жыл бұрын

The French were always at the forefront of military technology.

@FyurianPrime

5 жыл бұрын

@@ArcturusOTE Brits had them before the French. Late 1800's.

@WALTERBROADDUS

5 жыл бұрын

Actually, the US had a extended mag version of the 1903 rifle for flying use also.

@FyurianPrime

5 жыл бұрын

@@slamblamboozled1245 Before the 20's... Off hand I can think of at least 2 fielded weapons using detachable magazines. BAR and earlier Chauchats chambered in 30.06.

They were only asking if they could, but never thought about whether they should.

Very cool. The variations of WWI guns is very interesting. They tried everything once War wer declaired. Cant wait to see the Ian/Mark version get a video.

I saw one of these at the Australian War Memorial! They've also got a German A7V Tank from WWI. Pretty neat if you ask me

The fact that this is bolt-action and may never see this much shooting at once is great.

That odd lashup reminds me of the "long magazine 15 round" Mauser M98K and that "long magazine" rifle for "aircraft use."

Very interesting. I hope you have it in your book.

7:18 ya my very first thought when I saw this video was “hey Ian is taking a look at his own rifle.” Really cool that these kinds of rifles actually existed.

I wonder how people made sure to keep their fingers off the cutouts in that chauchat magazine. Since the mag is curved it is more compatible with prone shooting again except for the cutouts that allow dirt in. but for use in a balloon or plane that was not likely an issue. Ingenious and a totally french solution to a problem. I wonder if something like that could be made for the 91 mosin nagant that also uses a rimmed cartridge. Not practical use, but there are people that would buy it.

Little bolt gun got the xtendo on it. I like it!

Quite an incredible idea really

Very impressive, I bet it took a lot of gunsmithing to make a berthier accept a Chauchat magazine

Berthier with Chauchat: *Exists* Warfare conditions: I'm gonna end this gun's whole career !

@tonyporter4132

5 жыл бұрын

😄👏

I'll see if I can make something similar to mount to a Mosin using the existing magazine spring/door mounting points.

That gun must be restored because the only thing that looks worn is the bolt handle, the magazine and the rear sling attached groove. Regardless; it's an absolutely beautiful gun. Edit: I bet it was a barn barnfind or similar, probably looked like shit.

@88porpoise

5 жыл бұрын

There is a good chance it never saw actual use. Stuck in a plane or a balloon somewhere until they were removed from service and then some warehouse packed for long term storage for a few decades before being stuck in someone’s collection as a novelty. The thing thing would suck for a sporter rifle due to the bulky, unreliable magazine and no practical benefit over a stripper clip in. And you could probably get another rifle cheaper than converting this to a whilst Berthier. Similarly for regular combat, over time throwing in regular three round clips would likely be faster than dealing with the magazine and even a marginal theoretical rate of fire increase isn’t likely to be a big deal militarily. The only places it really makes sense are in a balloon where the motion likely makes reloading difficult or as a survival rifle where the pilot may “forget” to carry a bunch of clips for a gun he never intends to use.

Ian is in France, in a gun shop. R.I.P. Ian.

I can imagine this would be a fun rifle. I had a Mauser with Trench mag and it was fun to plink with (as far as plinking with an 8mm can be lol)

Yes finally! The ULTIMATE banana magazine!

Thinking of the timeline, could this be the origin of the Chauchat magazine rather than the other way round?

Makes me want to create a 03 Springfield that accepts BAR mags

At the Galerie de Mars, did you also have a look at the Chassepot modified into a repeating rifle in 11mm Mauser that they're selling?

Only thing it needs is antiaircraft bayonet.

I just got an ad on a FW video? Didn’t think yt would let this happen

This gun must be like catnip for Ian.

I actually saw one of these in the Army Museum in Paris. I completely forgot to send you a picture of it and now I feel stupid

High capacity bolt action rifle... Because reasons.

Gun Jesus looks genuinely impressed

This reminds me the 20 round trench mag for the Gew. 98. Is there any hope we can have a video on that?

Pilot: (getting Chauchat mag rifle from stock before flight) Ok, they don't want me back, they want me dead.

Can’t wait to see your clone when it’s done

Look good, but i wonder how reliable those magazines were back in the day after what we'd seen on C&R Arsenal.

@ragnarragnarsson3128

5 жыл бұрын

Probably better than you'd expect in aviation use being away from the mud and blood of the trenches

Technical question: I was looking at some specs for different cartridges and noticed that the dimensions listed for the .30 Pedersen (which of course went on to be the 7.65 French longue) were very close to the dimensions of the 7.63 Mannlicher (the one used in the 1901 pistol), just about a half-millimeter shorter case. Are they actually that close, or was it a misprint? Could 7.65 French longue be made just by trimming back 7.63 Mannlicher? Could John Pedersen have based his cartridge on Mannlicher's?

I'm very curious how you would hold it in the shoulder considering that magazine is where you would normally place your off hand

I love it. So cool

didn't like the Anvil guy from C&Rsenal made one of these conversions too?

@WonderHogl

5 жыл бұрын

I think he said in the video that he was making it for Ian.

Hi love your videos . Looking at the video though it looks more likely to me that the trigger guard was cut and welded prior to re working evidenced by the marks that look like weld sink marks where the forward magazine well joined the trigger guard and possibly something similar was done in the receiver as well towards the rear visible when you rotated the rifle to view the new mag port. This approach would be a lot cheaper and quicker for only a few rifles .Robert

Awesomeness wish i could shoot one. Thanks for showing 😁

Dice, Please! I need it!

Somewhere in France 1910 French General: Monsieur we need the best weapon ever for our troops French Gunsmith: Hold my croissant *creates thing* French General: Monsieur Bubba you're a genius!

It's beautiful

Gun Jesus has left RIA house for the first time in years. Incredible.

I need this thing in my life

Fantastic.

French gun design: Frog officer: What if we took an alright bolt action and made sure it jammed if it even saw mud? Frog engieer: Oui, we have a terrible open machine gun magazine! Frog officer: Tres bien, mount it to a carbine!

Love it!

I'll be curious to know how comfortable this was to operate and fire in the hand. It seems there is not much space for the forehand in front of the magazine and the front magazine retaining mechanism doesn't seem like gripping the magazine would be particularly stable

Dang---that's a cool rifle.