I know 32 acp isn’t considered that great a round, and yet when I look at my situation, how often I’m sitting down at a desk, I’d rather have a Tomcat in my pocket than leave a gun at home/in the car.

@OldPackMule

2 жыл бұрын

I've always said the perpetrators never stop to ask what caliber is the lead that is flying in their direction.

@ChristofHarper

2 жыл бұрын

LCP2 in 22. Just noting it exists

@ronaldwoofer5024

2 жыл бұрын

@@OldPackMule if its a pistol round they wont care... look at what happened in newyork. the guy was struc multiple times with a pistol round from someone carrying and he perpetrator took the rounds to his vest and returned fire killing the concealed carry guy... the good guy with a gun doesn't work anymore...

@Leonix13

2 жыл бұрын

Check out the Xtreme Cavitator ammo for .32

@_Frank_the_Tank

2 жыл бұрын

I pocket carried a Keltec P32 for many years. I spend most of my hours at work strapped in a fall protection harness with a tool belt around my waist, so keeping any of my larger polymer pistols strapped to me and accessable under all my gear becomes a bit of a challenge. I did end up replacing the P32 with a Ruger LCP, which was then replaced by a LCP II, which was replaced by an LCP Max. People say .32 and .380 are too weak to do the job, but I still haven't met anyone willing to stand infront of one and have it unloaded into their center mass... With that said the LCP Max is definitely more "hefty" then the P32, but it isn't that much larger when laid side by side. I've gotten so use to having a small pistol in my front right pocket that it now just feels odd to not have something there, even if I'm away from work and carrying one of my larger pistols at my 4 o'clock I still have the LCP in my pocket.

The tilt up barrel is what makes it desirable for a lot of people who, for one reason or another, have difficulty racking a slide. My wife and daughter carry Tomcats. Me too, sometimes. I find them fascinating.

@niceguyniko

2 жыл бұрын

Yes. He said that in the video...

@talisikid1618

2 жыл бұрын

Wish they still made tipup 80 series.

@klowen7778

2 жыл бұрын

Yep, makes sense for folks who don't wanna rack the slide. Though unless you're willing to carry one in the chamber, seems like a big tradeoff to first have to fish around for a loose cartridge, and then pop open the barrel to insert it... before you're even _'ready'._

@michaelward9880

2 жыл бұрын

@@klowen7778 When we carry, there's one in the chamber with safety on. The double action is a little stiff so sometimes I carry with safety off. It's pickey about ammo so I use nothing but Fiocchi FMJ. No problem yet.

@otm646

2 жыл бұрын

That's mostly a failure in technique not grip strength. I've taught 67 year old 100 lb women how to do it with no prior firearms training.

I daily carry my Tomcat Inox, I love it. My specific Tomcat is the pistol shown on the Wikipedia article :) "If whatever you're shooting doesn't die after pumping eight .32 caliber slugs into it, it's probably a dragon." - Sterling Archer

@Beesa10

2 жыл бұрын

You own the actual Tomcat on shown on Wikipedia? Cool!

@drain_001

2 жыл бұрын

@@Beesa10 with banana for scale!

@Osprey1994

Жыл бұрын

You should know there are people who have ate up more than 8 rounds of 9, and even multiple rounds of 5.56 and were still capable of posing a threat. If you're a great shot then yes .22 or .32 might be a viable option, but most people aren't and that's where a larger framed pistol with a modern caliber is beneficial. Additionally if you live in an area with bear then you definitely want 9mm, 40, 45, or 10mm (ideally 10mm in Grizzly territory). Of course the last important part is the fact that heavy clothing that you see in areas which get cold can really frustrate smaller rounds like .22 and .32 unlike a properly designed 9mm defensive round.

@BB-1990

Жыл бұрын

@@Osprey1994 LOL, okay. Thick clothing stops a .32 FMJ. LMAO, everything else you said is just jibber-jabber. Lastly, it was a line from a TV show Character!

@thatoneotherotherguy

Жыл бұрын

@@Osprey1994know the limitations of the tool you’re using. For instance, don’t take a 9mm to a bear fight unless you’ve got a gruesome death wish.

I have 2 Tomcats and a Bobcat. I love them both but usually carry one of the Tomcats because of the more powerful round. I really like the tip up barrel because they are very hard to rack back due to the small size. They both fit perfectly in my back pocket. I also have a 9mm Beretta. I just like Berettas, especially the visible hammer.

@Ed-ig7fj

2 жыл бұрын

Berettas are grand pistols. They and Walthers (at least my P-38's) have the safety mounted on the slide. I find that this gives you an "ear" to hook your finger over when you rack the slide. This helps. --Old Guy

@zzxxooooxxzz4964

2 жыл бұрын

Ever use the Pico?? Definitely nothing Grand about that Pistol

@46god

2 жыл бұрын

there’s definitely something special about berettas. i’ve been thinking about getting a tomcat to keep my 92fs company

@DarknessNation

2 жыл бұрын

I am up to 5 Berettas atm.... love em all.

@boondogglet132

2 жыл бұрын

I have a love hate with the Tomcat. I hate them because I have long skinny hands and will walk away from the range with a few snake bites. Love that they are great for "casual" carry weapons. like shoving into a pocket or an edc bag and going about the day not having to worry about imprinting to everyone. *I should edit, that pocket carrying or not in a holster, its always best to keep chamber empty. yes it adds for a longer ready time, however it is the safest option

Having worked with someone who had severe nerve damage in the non-dominant hand I can say for sure that the tip up barrel is a wonderful feature for that person.

I've got my Dad's old 21A in the camera case he used to LEGALLY carry it in. Still laugh because he never had a phone with a camera, so he travelled with the 21A in one case and an actual camera in another. Former Marine, he also qualified (before online idiocy) for his CCW with a rare PPK .380 that I've yet to master. My Dad TAUGHT me how to shoot and took me to classes 40 years ago, miss him every day and thanks to those today that TEACH their kids about guns, safety and responsibility!

The tomcat fits perfectly in the overhead storage on many Chevy trucks while staying very well hidden.

@cagneybillingsley2165

2 жыл бұрын

perfect carry piece for children

@pughconsulting

2 жыл бұрын

@@cagneybillingsley2165 backup gun

@mrmicro22

2 жыл бұрын

@@cagneybillingsley2165 Autumn of Autumn's Armory disagrees.

@smartacus88

2 жыл бұрын

@@cagneybillingsley2165 Do better in life.

@davidmarkwald450

Жыл бұрын

@@cagneybillingsley2165 What? Surely you jest...🙄

My 950 is close to 40 years old, think of these as a a quality life time purchase. Better than a sharp stick - beats a knife every time - fits in your front pocket - unbreakable (gas) extractor - safest auto with a tip barrel and fast to clear a jam - learn old school army combat shooting to compensate for minimum (snag free) sights - if you have a thumb, works great on the hammer for cocking SA style - and, you can "park it" with the barrel open (tipped up) to show unload/load condition in your ...

@andrewstraub131

3 ай бұрын

The only issue that I have encountered is that a dirty chamber (read 60 rounds) it seems to hate to eject (not a problem in a defensive pistol ) and it seems to loooove aguilla 60gr sss

At 79 years old, I now only shoot the 22LR or 22 Magnum guns because of some nerve damage in both my hands. I love my Bob Cat and I also own 5 other 22LR/22Mag guns and I shoot them as good as I did with my more powerful guns in the past! I shoot at my LGR every week and I do carry my Bob Cat at times in my right front pocket, with confidence as a self defense weapon! Yes, I had to make these adjustments but I am having more fun than ever at my LGR and Life is good here in Sunny Florida, the Gun Friendly State!

@13thGenPatriot

Жыл бұрын

Look into Federal Punch ammo for self defense. CCI is supposed to be coming out with a self defense round called Uppercut. Both are designed to fire out of short barrels. (Quick burn powder)

I’ve had my 21A for over 30 years. Still works great (as long as I use CCI mini mags).

@MrBurn14me

2 жыл бұрын

Mine too man. 40gr solids and its damn near 100%. The 36gr hollow points also work almost as well, but i noticed even with its short tube, those 40s hit and drive deep. Its def a cool little gun. 200 feathers I paid for mine.

@smartacus88

2 жыл бұрын

I've found mine works great with anything just about, so long as I flip the barrel up and take a q-tip to the chamber and feed ramp after firing a few mags through it.

I've been carrying a Tomcat for several years. It has become my most used summer carry and I consider it an ideal tee shirt gun.

@andrewgreiner4681

2 жыл бұрын

how do you carry it?

@jacka55six60

2 жыл бұрын

@@andrewgreiner4681 Like a pack of smokes in the 50's 😂🤣😂

@augustolima1317

2 жыл бұрын

@@jacka55six60 Jesus im gonna buy one just tô put behind my pack of smokes in brazil...

Thank you for such a great presentation as always. I completely agree that these firearms are woefully under rated. Beretta 21A is the first pistol I ever shot in my teens, getting an Inox version just a couple years ago has satisfied a decades long chase.

@LuckyGunner

2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome! Hope you're enjoying the Inox

@lordhellfire153

2 жыл бұрын

Good lord they made an Inox??

@Vtfilamguy

2 жыл бұрын

@@lordhellfire153 yes and now I need a blued model to compliment it.

I actually finally took my new Tomcat to the range today to try it out (I bought it like 7 weeks ago). I've never fired a 32 ACP, and I was surprised at the lack of recoil. It's like a .22 LR. Very fun to shoot. As a pocket pistol, it's so much smaller than my P365, LCP or S&W Centennial revolvers like the 642 and 351C. I can't believe these aren't bigger sellers. I think most people see them as a novelty gun for some reason.

@GunFunZS

2 жыл бұрын

I would say the power is a major factor. Also will I like these pistols shooting them accurately fast and much harder than doing the same thing with something like an LCP2 or a Taurus 738, sig p238, etc. I'll also add that on most of these I find they manual safety to be kind of awkward and if you add all of the actions required to get it into to action, It's another major deficiency for the older design. Often with these things you're going to fumble it out of your pocket holster use two hands to disengage the safety or break your firing grip and do an awkward contortion, then wobble around a little bit to find your site picture because they don't quite point right, and they have tiny little black sights. For a fair amount of them after you take your first shot you're going to have to fix your grip again. .... Now I know you're going to say you don't have any of those problems and that you've learned to overcome that. Yeah me too but go take one of these to the range and hand it to five or six random people and you will see exactly what I'm talking about. These aren't the guns that are mostly owned by people who shoot a lot they're mostly owned by people who don't shoot a lot. And they're a little bit more difficult to use easily for everything except for the barrel tip of feature.

@never2be07

2 жыл бұрын

32 is a lot harder to find than 22LR. You can still get 22 from Walmart

@davidmarkwald450

Жыл бұрын

@@GunFunZS well... If you're going to carry a gun, maybe having some idea what to do would be helpful. Or then just hope for the best I guess. 🤔🙄 A last option would be to just run and hide.☹

@davidmarkwald450

Жыл бұрын

@@GunFunZS You made some valid points. But if those are real worries perhaps that type of person shouldn't even consider carrying, for their own safety. I know I'd feel safer if they didn't fumble around near me. No disrespect intended, just throwing my 2 cents out there.

@Osprey1994

Жыл бұрын

The issue is they are freaking small, and they don't offer you a caliber that most people are willing to trust. Combine that with the fact that I know some people like myself prefer to stick to very specific commonly found calibers.

Got a 21A about 30 years ago. It had numerous problems as well as jamming. Sent it back to Beretta. They returned it with a long list of items they fixed. Since then it has been flawless! It is now the one I pickup to walk around the block or a quick errand. Good pocket holster, no fuss. Sights such but I do just fine at 5 yards. Yes, I have bigger fancier guns but this ca go anywhere. Good review especially comments on front sight.

One thing I like about these firearms is they fit very well in my hand, very meaty.

Strange for an old guy who has carried a 1911 .45 for that many years, but I must admit a fascination with those tilt barrel mouse guns, especially the .22. Any pocket pistol is likely to need a “shakedown” and maybe some fiddling. There’s a company making better springs, so with a little fiddling and a simple mod or two, you can make even a Phoenix HP22 into a decent gun.

@thingthingsss

2 жыл бұрын

Considering I had a HP25 break the breach face, I wouldn't touch one with a 10ft pole anymore.

@Ed-ig7fj

2 жыл бұрын

As they say, that .22 in your pocket is way more useful than the .45 that was too big to bring! --Old Guy

@lanedexter6303

2 жыл бұрын

@@thingthingsss wow! That’s an eye opener.

I picked up the 21A Covert recently and combined with a De Santis pocket holster, it has become my minimum daily carry. Shoots accurate and reliably with CCI ammo, looks cool and a great little suppressor host. I've shot the Bobcat at 50 yards on a DPS man silhouette, and surprisingly able to score center chest hit every time. If my attire allows, I also carry my G19. Either way, I'm 100% sure the little Bobcat can handle any typical situation I'm likely to ever encounter.

I had my bobcat front sight milled out and a custom rmr mount made and mounted to that area. Now, I can aim while suppressed and it’s alot more fun.

@LuckyGunner

2 жыл бұрын

Seriously? I wouldn't have thought there was enough meat on that slide for a mounting plate. Would love to see pics of this setup if you have any.

@sjc1412

2 жыл бұрын

@@LuckyGunner not on the slide but where the front sight mounts. I figured the added weight on the slide would induce malfunctions.

You have some of the best pocket pistol information on KZread. I carry a Beretta 950BS as a second pistol and I love it.

My wife has a 21A. It's a great little gun. It's reliable with super Sonic ammo. It loves CCI Stingers.

I got a 21A brand new in 1984 and still carry it in my pocket. It's all you need close up.

A review of the Tomcat on the release day for Top Gun: Maverick? Love it.

@LuckyGunner

2 жыл бұрын

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@starkparker16

2 жыл бұрын

Greetings. 🖕🏻

Both of these guns are hammer fired, DA/SA with a tip up barrel and manual safety. The DA/SA trigger combined with the manual safety provides optimal safety for concealed (pocket) carry, and the tip up barrel makes it easy to load for many who do not have adequate hand strength to rack the slide of the other so called pocket pistols. You have spent considerable time and effort finding the "perfect" DA/SA gun in other videos. I've been around firearms my entire life, but has suffered through an accidental discharge. I will not carry any pistol without a safety nor will I allow my wife to do so. She carries the Tomcat, and is a good shot for a 78 year old lady. I switched from a P365 to a SCCY CPX-1 for the reasons mentioned above. I just don't feel comfortable carrying a striker pistol. Either of these pistols is well suited for self-defense, and to assume these guns are designed for other purposes is misguided.

I always enjoy your reviews. You give a lot of info without a lot of fluff. You speak to both experienced and new shooters. Please do more reviews!

The tip up barrel is very handy for those with a weak grip, where racking a slide is near impossible. Also the sights, paint white on the rear sights, and orange in the front. Makes it much easier to see.

I love my tomcat! Such a fun gun. Small yet substantial feeling in the hand.

Got my 21A when I traded something and was offered a .22 or a .25. I knew I'd shoot the .22 a lot more, and time has proven me right. between this and the Walther TPH I have 2 deep concealment guns, and this is a lot lighter than the all steel TPH. Thanks.

@Localjadedealer

Жыл бұрын

CIA used the tph and 21a with a pill bottle suppressor.

Great video as always Chris. Always a treat, the classy DA/SA gun reviews.

I have an old Beretta 81BB, and I love that thing. Now you're making me want this .32 Tomcat.

Good report on the Tomcat and Bobcat. Both are fun and reliable. Also classy.

Bobcat was my first firearm purchase ever back in 90/91 cool pistol fit behind my wallet couldn't hit the barn if it was more than 6or7 yards

@inpalpatine2067

2 жыл бұрын

Same for me with a p32 and snubby. Bought some 6" guns I learned on and love to shoot and can now proficiently shoot the small ones.

I own the 22 version. It’s an awesome little gun. Very high quality. Easy to use. With stingers, I think it’s quite formidable

@davidmarkwald450

Жыл бұрын

I believe that Beretta recommends not to use stingers as a steady diet with this gun.

@2Atreehugger

Жыл бұрын

@@davidmarkwald450 yeah they will lead up the barrel too. So only testing with them. My Ruger 22/45 leaded up bad with them.

@d.g.n9392

Жыл бұрын

@@davidmarkwald450 I’ve used the stingers and velicitors some in the past. But this week using some stingers hollow point , they wanted to jam. I went on the use some mini mags round nose, those feed just fine. No jamming. So I came on here tonight looking for other opinions. I certainly don’t want my little pocket carry to possibly jam.

I've wanted one of these two for a while now. I have a Beretta 81BB in 32 acp and I absolutely adore that pistol.

I’ve carried a Tomcat for ages cocked and locked and dropped it one or twice on the hammer, no problems-though it definitely should be avoided. In a nice pocket holster, I carry it L & L with confidence.

Heavy for a pocket pistol is just crazy i wear it while sleeping 😴 in my pajamas never had a problem with it. Forgot one too many times that it was even there while walking to the grocery store and back!

The accuracy of the Baretta is where it shines best. That and low recoil for accurate follow ups. Train to hit where you aim.

The point of the tip up barrel is not to assist those with weak hands. The point is not having to lower the hammer on a loaded chamber in order to carry it safely in double action mode. Actually a pretty cool solution to that problem.

@aguilayserpiente

10 ай бұрын

Arthritis, carpal tunnel, tendon injury, disability, etc.

@01rcpena

10 ай бұрын

@@aguilayserpiente So true! I once developed severe tendonitis in my right wrist at the age of about 35. It was extremely painful and incredibly debilitating. It was physically impossible to hold a washcloth, let alone pull the trigger on any of my firearms with that hand. Lasted about one year and then gradually healed. I was in great shape besides my wrist. I learned the importance of training to shoot one handed with both hands. It's not only older folks battling arthritis.

@aguilayserpiente

10 ай бұрын

@@01rcpena I am happy for you that you recovered, from what for many is a permanent injury. What handgun do you prefer? Stay well and keep practicing.

@01rcpena

10 ай бұрын

@@aguilayserpiente Thank you for your kind words. I typically carry my Sig Sauer P238 or a S&W Shield Plus PC.

@aguilayserpiente

10 ай бұрын

@@01rcpena I will look into those suggestions or there equivalents.

I wouldn’t trade my 21A bobcat for anything, It’s never the size of the round but the placement😎

I have the Tomcat and its literally sitting right next to me right now. Love this little gun and use it as my quick run to the gas station gun.

So timely, I’m literally picking mine up today, the exact same walnut coverts

I had an Alley Cat and loved it. Super reliable very easy to carry but needed higher performance loads.

I just bought the Bobcat in March and love it. After a few test rounds of different ammo it has settled on CCI Mini Mags and Stingers. It lives in my pocket as I work from home and always nice to have at the barn in case of snakes in the chicken coop.

I bought that exact version of the 21a awhile back, it’s a neat fun gun! Can’t wait for my little can to arrive! 👍🏻

Been thinking of a tomcat. I work a route job and make multiple stops a day in bad areas and carry customer cash payments often. I need something light that can fit in my pants pocket and be quickly drawn and deliver accurate fire center mass from 3 to 5 feet in a rapid manner with minimal recoil. Maybe a tomcat ? It makes sense. I can always have the Glock 19 in my truck.

I am fortunate to own both and I love both of them. Thanks for the video.

What a coincidence! I was just looking at Bobcats yesterday and here you are!

@LuckyGunner

2 жыл бұрын

We made it just for you!

the tip-up barrell is genius... it helps a lot everyone, not just people with medical conditions or difficulties on their hands

Great video. Beretta has stuck to what they do and believe in and I like it.

I love that pistol😀 looks great and easily confirmed easily to carry

Love both my Bobcat and Tomcat. Bobcat with a suppressor is a blast.

Nicely presented as always, and very informative, as always.

Chris shooting like Agent 47 is thing I need more of. 10/10

The Bobcat is to prevent the random ass-kicking. Point, scream, run. Also, I used an Arkansas stone w/oil on the slide rails, and it became a lot less picky on the ammo. Buttery smooth.

Have always wanted one of these, either of them. As someone who will never be able to carry what apparently is the mainstream CCW choices, a shootable little gun with useful mag capacity is just the ticket.

each and every vid is superb and enjoy this channel immensely ... I have my 21a suppressed and it's a delight ... we have wild apple trees on our property in the woods and it's a fun time trying to knock them off the branches. I shoulder holster a 92fs for work and love Beretta.

@davidmarkwald450

Жыл бұрын

Boy that sounds dangerous for anyone or anything down range even a little..

I owned one. I couldn't hit anything with it so I sold it for a .380 Bersa. The gun weighs a few ounces more than the Bobcat but I can get a full grip and can do much better at hitting a target. And, like the Beretta, the Bersa is still small enough to slip into my coat pocket when I go out.

Thanks

Great informative presentation style his seasoned enthusiasm is a pleasure to be shared

I have the 3032 I brought last year and it's sweeet..I just use it for range fun.

My stepmother’s back up gun when she was on patrol in the early 2000s was a Tomcat. She liked it and it seemed to run fine. My big issue w a gun like this is, as you note, the draw stroke.

Awesome video. 21a has been on the list for a while. Time to pull the trigger.

Great review of two of my favorite pistols

The slide on the 3032 is very tight when new but after shooting and practice racking it does become much easier to use. It gradually becomes a nice gun to rack. I think this due to very tight manufacturing tolerances.

I have owned a 21A since the early 1990s. It is everything you say it is, plus it is a well-made bit of kit. Yes, if I carry something smaller than my J-frame, it is likely to be my KT P-32, but I still keep the 21A around for range fun and to let recoil-sensitive shooters who may be intimidated by a larger gun have something fun to shot. Have not hoped on the .380ACP pocket pistol bandwagon, though I still have .45ACP and .40S&W pocket pistols.

I have a 950 Jetfire in.25 and love it. It's my "not carrying a gun" gun.

@scooter5940

2 жыл бұрын

My brother brought down his 1967, Italian-made 950B last weekend. Has only about 100 rounds on it - still has the original box - and not been fired in 50 years. I cleaned and lubed it, and we sent 50 rounds of 25 ACP down range. Never missed a beat! What a cool little gun! When my trigger finger is extended, it sticks out past the barrel!

I have .22lr version of the PPK/S, Beretta 92 and Colt 1911A1. They are all very fun.

The point of both the Tomcat and the Bobcat is their classic beauty or nostalgia. It's not always about power and capacity. If you were attending a "Black Tie Affair" your obvious choices are these two guns or a Walther PPK but the Walther is heavy and of questionable reliability. An LCP Max and a Tux screams "hillbilly in a rented suit."

@macriggland6526

2 жыл бұрын

showing off your gun at all screams hillbilly in a rented suit.

@PERK-30

2 жыл бұрын

@@macriggland6526 you are cringe.

@macriggland6526

2 жыл бұрын

@@PERK-30 showing off your gun at a formal event is cringe.

@johnshepherd8687

2 жыл бұрын

Are you serious? If you are wearing a tux then you can conceal almost anything. Do you ever actually ever wear a coat and tie?

@macriggland6526

2 жыл бұрын

@@PERK-30 the women would get nervous and the men would literally suck air through their teeth, shake their heads, and CRINGE.

Thanks Chris great video buddy!!!!

Fun presentation! Thanks you. I have both the bobcat and the LCP II 22. Like them both, but the bobcat is definitely more interesting.

That Bobcat 21A jams a lot. A LOT. Plenty of stovepipes and it likes premium ammo due to light strikes on primer. Fun gun to shoot along as you know what to expect.

Those wood grips look super good!

My 21 bobcat in 22 long rifle. LOVES Remington yellow jackets and viper Conicle shaped bullets ! Not one jam or misfire.. with the Remington yellow jackets and vipers

Great review

I have a 950 in 25 ACP I carry it all the time in the summer. It’s a great gun to wear with gym shorts or sweatpants. I’m not looking to run towards trouble with that but it certainly enough to get someone off of you.

My Bobcat 21a is fun to shoot and indeed it is finicky regarding the ammo. I tried 14 different types of ammo and the all around, always cycles, doesn't fail to eject, etc. is the much maligned Remington Thunderbolt! Good Memorial Day to all and thanks for the good video.

@lornenoland8098

2 жыл бұрын

Same ammo issues here. I found the no longer available Yellowjacket to be best

@walterthompson5417

2 жыл бұрын

CCI mini mags works with mine

@PetuniaIii-pd1ww

2 жыл бұрын

We use thunderbolts for our range autos...I might be blowing smoke, but I've heard the thunderbolts are maybe .0005 skinnier than other .22 ammo, and thus cycle more reliably...all I know is the stuff works...

I used to have one of the Bobcat models with the stainless finish. Back then I worked in a job that required a uniform that made it effectively impossible to hip carry. For context, I’m 6’4 and pretty chubby; I have larger hands than basically everyone I know, to the point I couldn’t even get a solid 2-finger grip on an LCP. The Bobcat was a perfect size. It was thinner than anything else I had, though the grip was much larger than they actually needed to be. In my case it worked out because it was just chunky enough to feel like you have a good grip, just minus the pinky finger. There is a reason I don’t have it anymore, though. Malfunctions started only after about 50 rounds because of how dirty the feed ramp got. It was wide enough that it widened the top of my pocket for people to see any time I was facing a different direction, and at one point my boss even saw it. For that reason alone I can’t call this a true pocket carry gun. And although it had a sizable grip in the hand, my hands were large enough that I encountered an accidental barrel unlocks while drawing, a potentially disastrous thing if I ever actually needed to use it. Turns out the latch would sometimes work loose from sitting while in my holster and would finally unlatch, or accidentally engage the barrel lock which was already in a weird half-lock position due to the small spacing of the controls. This would happen about once in a hundred draws, definitely worrying enough that I couldn’t trust it. Too bad though - these things scream class to me, almost like the Walther PPK

I grew up being told the bobcat was best for new shooters. The tilt barrel button and trigger really make it easy and safe. when not pointing down range keep the action open nothing can go wrong if you stress that the action stays open (till they’re confident)

Cool little guns, great video, awesome channel 😉

I have a Bobcat 21A covert, I swapped the very pretty wood grips with Beretta rubberized grips to reduce width and increase grip for pulling from a pocket holster. The grip change works but it's a shame because the walnut is so pretty. But anyway, when I received mine the slide was so stiff that no amount of normal field cleaning was going to help. I was very stubborn because I really wanted it to work and I was hearing other people were having the problem as well, so I simple hand racked it over and over and over while watching movies or whatever. I didn't count but I bet it was near 2K before I thought it might actually cycle with a small 22LR for power. It worked and now cycles, but it's a big disappointment for some people, I'm sure it gets returned or sent back to Beretta for that. As to ammo, Federal has that new light weight 22LR Punch, self defense ammo, I think it's only 29g and a flat nose, nickle plated for weather resistance for EDC week after week. Did you get a chance to test that in your Bobcat? I don't have a suppressor for mine and was curious if it was too light to cycle properly then?

Ha! I just got one of these and a TacSol Aeris suppressor! Fun as hell, I love mine!

I love my little Berretta Tomcats and a Bobcat.

Great Video! I have both the Bobcat and the Tomcat in Inox. Two of the most enjoyable pocket pistols around to shoot. I have very large hands and those big Beretta grips made the Tomcat my go to for pocket carry until very recently when I discovered the Ruger LCP Max with the 12 round mag. There's a pistol I would love to see you review!

I have had a Bobcat 21A in .25 caliber which was stole and now have had a Tomcat .32 wide slide! Both awesome built guns! So small & so dangerous if you have no training. I love these guns, but better be withing 35-50 feet of your attacker or target. The tip barrel is also nice if you want to train someone with a single shot! I've never had any issues with any type of ammo rounds!

Traded some herb for a 22 in the mid 90s.have the Ruger & luckily got one that worked fine. Glad you are feeling better.

Very interesting. Thank you.

Great vid, you obviously enjoy your job!

I own a Beretta Jetfire 950 BS 25 ACP I purchased back in the mid-90s.. very reliable in fairly accurate within reasonable distances.. approximately 4 years ago.. I purchased a used in mint condition Beretta21 bobcat..in .22LR .. blued steel wood grips.. manufactured sometime during the 1990s I believe..cci mini mags work but.. the gun really loves Remington yellow jacket and viper conical shape bullets.. absolutely not one jam with those

I have 22 short version of this, the Mynx. It's a neat little piece fun to fire, tiny mag and slide work with break action.

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Yeah, those are neat. The Minx is the .22 Short version of the Model 950. The .25 ACP version is the Jetfire. They're actually a bit smaller than the 21A and the 3032 and they're single action only instead of DA/SA.

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My first gun was a 950BS M4 Minx with the slightly longer 3.75” barrel instead of the 2.5”. Great little gun. Very accurate (soda cans at 20 yards were toast!), beautiful finish and style. I had a leather speed scabbard holster and carried it when I got my concealed carry in the eighties. It cycled any standard or high velocity cartridge but the CB Caps were manually cycled - but with no extractor it was easier just to pop the barrel open, the empty would fly out and then single load the next round. They wouldn’t let me shoot it at the local range as it could be concealed entirely by my hand and the range officer could not monitor it. Lovely pistol.

Nice to hear some nice words about the KelTec P32. I would strongly encourage anyone considering the P32 or her near-sister, the .380 P3AT, to get the 10 round extended magazine. It makes it into another, much better, gun. Gives you real control over the weapon. It feels wonderful in your hand. )The magazines have been solvd out online and everywhere I've looked. I hope this changes soon. I see you've got your summer haircut. Looks good!

Dual wield suppressed! Excellent

Many Thanks

I have an older Tomcat with the thinner slide. Very nice little pistol with just enough grip area for my larger hands to feel comfortable. Agree the .32 is underrated. Would enjoy a Bobcat to go with my Tomcat. Good review. Thanks

Very nice - thanks ! 🙂😎👍

I wish I never sold mine years ago. It really was a cool little pistol and a great hot weather carry.

Yes a very good pocket pistol. At a few feet in .32 acp it’s great for self defense

@8:24 the Bobcat manual recommends using CCI ammo. I've had some success with Aguila ammo matching CCI specs. Seems like slower speeds does it.

Thank you!

Wow, I want one of these.

As an old guy I’m going to get a 410 derringer as my aim isn’t as good. I figure a buckshot load to the face or family jewels will stop about anyone and bypass the protective plate issue.

I've got a Tomcat 3032 Stainless... I will have to reacquaint myself with after watching this video! Thanks ';-)