Bent is back!!! Type 81M review Variant 3, T81 Underfolder. Read below.

Correction, in the deviation test I said "degree" but I meant millimeters (it was late in the night, lol). Length Of Pull (LOP) is 12 3/4" on the Fixed. not 12".
This is not scientific but it appears the bent is common with 18.5" barrels (variant 1 or 3) which uses small barrel blocks, where as no bent occur with the 20.5" barrels (variant 2) that uses a long barrel blocks.
The deviation procedure in the video was suggested by the importer. I prefer another method (see below steps) which is more accurate but it requires a caliper. Comparing theirs result to mine, we were .3mm apart. Theirs were 3mm and mine were 2.7mm which is not significant considering the result were well below 4mm. To file for warranty claim, the deviation must be 4mm or more...
Step 1. use two sets of magnets of equal thickness, place them on the receiver furthest from each other... Step 2. Line the magnets against a straight edge like a glass table or granite counter top. Held up steady and level using a camera tripod... Step 3. Measure and mark from the front of the receiver towards the muzzle of approx 40 cm... Step 4. Using a caliper, measure the distance from the straight edge to the side of the barrel where it is mark... Step 5. Flip it around to the other side and repeat Step 1 to 4. Repeat the steps a few times on each side... Step 6. Calculation, deviation equal the difference in the two measurements from both sides divided by two. (Mine side A 16.2mm - side B 10.8mm = 5.4mm / 2 = 2.7mm deviation).
Legally, on the FRT, there are only two types of receivers, Type 81SA and Type 81SR. SR is the Dragunov stock and the rest are SA.
Variant 1: Light 18.5" barrel, Fixed and Side folder receivers (blonde), sub variant SE (red wood).
Variant 2: Heavy 20.5" barrel, LMG & SR (blonde, blued), sub variant Limited (phosphate).
Variant 3: Heavy 18.5" barrel, Underfolder & Fixed M (orange).
According to the importer, deviations of more than 4mm across 40cm length of the barrel are considered severe. Contact your dealer to file a warranty claim so if a scope was lined up with the receiver. At 100m, the bullet would land roughly 10" to the right for every 1mm of deviation. e.g.. 2.5mm equal 25" off, 3mm is 30" and 4mm is 40" and so on. Sadly, my Underfolder is bent by 3mm, not bad enough for warranty replacement.
They sent a replacement to my cracked wood top handguard after I sent a few pics to them without much fan fair.
Check out my other videos on the SKS, Type 81 and GSG-16, see description in.
SKS: • DIY SKS Underfolder. H...
Type 81: • DIY AK-47 magazine to ...
GSG-16: • 20 ways to Pimp my GSG...
Disclaimer: this video is for educational purposes only, free of charge. Any part you copied is at your own risk and should be inspected by a professional prior to use.
- Due to KZread's policy. Please do NOT ask for link or post information of where to buy.
- Please do not attempt to do my disassembly or mod because it's not made for novices who can't figure out what I'm doing on or off camera also due to the length of the disassembly, I don't often reassemble or include the FCG which is done separately.
- If you like what I do on KZread and you found some parts useful then please support my channel by pressing the LIKE and the subscribing buttons. If it was of no use to you then thanks for watching and please press next. Making videos are time consuming and not to mention expensive to do... Thank you.

Пікірлер: 254

  • @klinfield
    @klinfield3 ай бұрын

    I really like your videos and appreciate the time and effort you put into them. Thank you very much!

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    thanks. took me a whole day and over a dozen takes. as you noticed im not a natural speaker and i dont like to read notes plus i couldnt wait 3 days for the utubes to authorize ads on my video so im not getting paid till they do. oh well for the public.

  • @gcanada3005

    @gcanada3005

    3 ай бұрын

    Agree this gentleman taught me about SKS. Now he's teaching me about Type 81

  • @rhye_guy7717
    @rhye_guy77172 ай бұрын

    I've been binge watching your vids the last couple days and you've earned a sub!

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    2 ай бұрын

    Thanks.... You watched all 34 vids of T81? Then you deserved a medal 🥇, lol.

  • @JamesRumas3DArtist
    @JamesRumas3DArtist3 ай бұрын

    I got both options because I wasn't sure if I would like the underfolder, but like you it is now my favourite.

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    good to hear.

  • @ziggyz2958

    @ziggyz2958

    3 ай бұрын

    Is it possible to shoot the underfolder accurately? To me it looks like it would be hard to get a consistent site picture.

  • @streetfreak

    @streetfreak

    3 ай бұрын

    @@ziggyz2958to me it’s more comfy to get sight picture on the under folder. The fixed stock version has an uncomfortable angle so I have to tilt my head a lot to get proper sight picture

  • @ziggyz2958

    @ziggyz2958

    3 ай бұрын

    @streetfreak Can you shoot the underfolder with the same accuracy as the fixed? Also, was yours straight?

  • @streetfreak

    @streetfreak

    3 ай бұрын

    @@ziggyz2958haven’t gotten a chance to shoot lately but I definitely do want to see if they shoot straight…

  • @Canadianman762
    @Canadianman7623 ай бұрын

    I sadly missed the boat on the fixed version. I hope they bring in more so I don’t have to pay a GP scalper $1000 extra.

  • @MakaveliThaDonKilluminati

    @MakaveliThaDonKilluminati

    3 ай бұрын

    It was scalped from day one i see it selling for 2500 everywhere on gunpost

  • @LinDJack

    @LinDJack

    3 ай бұрын

    Would the Midwest ak mini dot optic mount fit on this underfolder? Thanks

  • @GUNWAR13

    @GUNWAR13

    3 ай бұрын

    Rumour is june-july for next batch plus more mags

  • @ryannorman8900

    @ryannorman8900

    3 ай бұрын

    Fuck the staplers. There will be more

  • @P_M1337

    @P_M1337

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@LinDJackA guy is making adapters to fit Mid Ind furniture on 81's. look up Chinookarms

  • @papermind4010
    @papermind40103 ай бұрын

    A Type 81 SBR would change my life.

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    especially a krinkov.

  • @deltadelta5095
    @deltadelta50953 ай бұрын

    Sweet lord that Snubby VZ must be a fire breathing dragon lol awesome gun and video.

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    yup, the fireball. no need to go to the beach or sun tan salon, lol.

  • @oscarpaz27
    @oscarpaz273 ай бұрын

    Very ckever way to measure the deviation of the barrel. Tip of the hat to you Sir. Thank you.

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    thanks.

  • @skyliner004
    @skyliner0043 ай бұрын

    Great content as always!

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    Glad you think so!

  • @JamesRumas3DArtist
    @JamesRumas3DArtist3 ай бұрын

    definitely interested in seeing more of this underfolder sks!

  • @1991tommygun

    @1991tommygun

    3 ай бұрын

    The only thing makes it 'sks like' is the short stroke gas piston. Its just as much an AK as it is an SKS

  • @streetfreak

    @streetfreak

    3 ай бұрын

    @@1991tommyguni was referring to the actual custom under folder sks that he made haha

  • @lexus9337
    @lexus93373 ай бұрын

    I was waiting for you to drop a vid on jt !

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    you know i was gonna, lol. next is the paracord the undie, lol.

  • @mattmorrison9379
    @mattmorrison93793 ай бұрын

    Ah yes , the AK, sks mash up gun. That being said, I want one lol. But the are very expensive in the states and uber rare. Great video btw. Very informative.

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    nice to hear an american visited my site... thanks

  • @jimmydigriz362
    @jimmydigriz3623 ай бұрын

    first off, thanks for the breadth of knowledge on Canadian firearms you've provided over the years. now for the sacrilege part: despite your affection for the underfolder, is there a chance you might make a video doing a full disassembly of the folding mechanism, to see if the back plate is removable, and basically whether it's possible to non-destructively remove the undefolder element from the rifle, and see if various Sigmaco stock adapters would fit on it. there are a lot of people who want the T81, but not the underfolder and since clearly TI brought far more of those models in, knowing whether stock could be replaced would make a big difference for many. either way, thank you for the informative videos. you've been upgrading these rifles long before there was Sigmaco or any custom Type 81 furniture for that matter, so I thought I'd ask if you would be willing to do a deep dive on the underfolder and the options of upgrade on it as well.

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    i havta stop you right there. the underfolder trunnion arent removeable but i have already done a vid on underfolder disassembly. kzread.info/dash/bejne/f6SEq8Z_g6-7fMY.html

  • @jimmydigriz362

    @jimmydigriz362

    3 ай бұрын

    @@gnutzguy oh I see, so there is no way to change the stock on the underfolder then? remove just the folding mechanism/wire stock and the back plate and put in the Sigmaco adapter? I guess the trunnion itself is different eh, no space for adapter there?

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    nope, nada, nil bupkis, lol. nothing from sigmaco will work with underfolder.

  • @jimmydigriz362

    @jimmydigriz362

    3 ай бұрын

    @@gnutzguy thanks, appreciate the information. keep up the good work!

  • @lexus9337
    @lexus93373 ай бұрын

    Im happy i got the underfolder its really good

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    so there are not bent undie out there, interesting.

  • @lexus9337

    @lexus9337

    3 ай бұрын

    @gnutzguy yeah mine looks perfect 👌. I did not measure the deviation on this one though. I did with my previous SE that was bent at the rear trunion it turned out be well in spec. With this one i will probably simply use a laser level to pull a straight line from the front sight to the center of the red dot to see if it's close enough but looking from the rear trunion cleaning hole it's close to perfection

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    Lexus: looking thru the butt hole also works. Lol.

  • @lexus9337

    @lexus9337

    3 ай бұрын

    @gnutzguy like you suggested it is indeed slightly bent to the right. But i really had to look for it and with the laser level it seems to be only a couple mm off at the middle of the red dot. So i think I will have to zero it and see how it changes the poi at different distances. I will measure the deviation properly to have a point of reference.

  • @vb7913
    @vb791321 күн бұрын

    Very interesting and informative video!

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    19 күн бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it

  • @3DVIDEOSMurray
    @3DVIDEOSMurray3 ай бұрын

    I think Tactical Imports has the ability to make most of these from scratch now... or maybe they always have... idk. These M variants along with the SR provide good evidence to support the notion that these arnt just repurposed and modified LMGs. The forgings / castings are different, the tin work is different, the barrel profiles are different. The SRs front sight base has no cleaning rod retainer like the LMG and M. The M has a cleaning rod loop on its gas block that neither the LMG nor SR have. The Ms front trunnion is bored to accept a heavy barrel blank like the LMG and SR however it does not have the carry handle holes. Both the SR and the M have no barrel step to support the LMG bipod. And obviously the SR has a totally different gas port location and the required change to the gas system tin to accommodate that. Interesting stuff for a Type 81 enthusiast.

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    i never thought that bcos i've heard the LMG was commissioned by norinco (not polytech) who use a different factory which had no bent inspite of a longer barrel so obvious the M wasnt built in that LMG factory.

  • @thomassimpson6901

    @thomassimpson6901

    3 ай бұрын

    @@gnutzguyNorinco is the export organisation not an individual factory. Polytech is one of several factories which receive orders from Norinco which acts as a single point of contact for foreign purchasers to approach these companies. So all contracts will be commissioned by Norinco.

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    @@thomassimpson6901 you are wrong. Norinco and Polytech are both exporters. Both belongs to government but different wing. Example PLA or ministry of defense. They do not manufacture firearms. They commission the production of firearms with different factories. The Canadian importer has been dealing with Polytech and thru Polytech to a factory that builds for norinco.

  • @ilovefreeski
    @ilovefreeski3 ай бұрын

    Great video, did you do anything on the cherry red t81 "se" furniture to make it look so good and shiny? i have some birchwood casey gun stock wax but have been debating using it.

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    nope, as is.

  • @gordtron
    @gordtron3 ай бұрын

    hopefully they will do a run of underfolding buttstock with underfolding bayonet. just wish they had a stripper clip guide.

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    Noooooooo, not a fixed bayo.... its front heavy already.

  • @ziggyz2958
    @ziggyz29583 ай бұрын

    I was interested in one of these but I don't want to pay that much and then get a bent one. Or have to deal with the bs of trying to return it. Unfortunately, there are not a lot of options for canadians at this time. Is there any way to avoid getting event one in the first place?

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    yes, be patience for underfolder. for a fixed you are SOL. some underfolder owners will not like it and sell it at cost. just asked them if its bent

  • @GUNWAR13
    @GUNWAR133 ай бұрын

    Do any of the sigmaco mlok slots clear the hole in the underfolder stock for a foregrip when folded?

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    Unfortunately, my sigmaco is a gen 1 , it won't fit variant 2 and 3 T81

  • @Gristle111
    @Gristle1113 ай бұрын

    You might want to look up the 1 in 60 rule. You need the distance between the 2 measuring points length to turn those mm into degrees. That being said.. that length would have to be less than 60mm which from your diagram is not the case.. Nice review as always!! :)

  • @sadnessinside123

    @sadnessinside123

    3 ай бұрын

    Do you mind elaborating. I'm a bit nervous about the barrel bend situation.

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    Gristle: im guessin you didnt read the description. i made the correction there already. has nothing to do with degree. it was late and i was tired, i got confused, lol

  • @auntjemima247
    @auntjemima2473 ай бұрын

    Can you do a tutorial on installing the new M-LOK HANDGUARD FOR TYPE 81 LMG?? That would be a big help!

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    Only if you live in Vancouver, I can install it for you. Otherwise, no, I can't afford it.

  • @LinDJack
    @LinDJack3 ай бұрын

    would the MI mini dot optic mount fit on the 81m underfolder? thanks

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    if its made for ak then no.

  • @dantheman4751
    @dantheman475120 күн бұрын

    Thanks for the video. How does the deviation translate practically? Does it need to be compensated for some how?

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    20 күн бұрын

    @@dantheman4751 ya welcome. only if you use a scope. See description.

  • @molonlabe420
    @molonlabe4203 ай бұрын

    Hello gnutz guy, do you know if any of the new minty chinese sks are pinned internally like on many russians and yugos? I hate the rivet look but would love one of the unissued ones

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    Lol. This is a T81 vid but to answer your question is no, all chinese mint sks has tiny rivet showing

  • @molonlabe420

    @molonlabe420

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@gnutzguy LOL sorry just realized was watching a few of your vids. Thanks for the reply. I might try to source an extra magazine.

  • @MrCheesypickles
    @MrCheesypickles3 ай бұрын

    Is the gas regulator removable from the gas block/housing like on the other models? I've seen a few reports of people saying they can't remove them.

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    yes, same as other variants.

  • @MrCheesypickles

    @MrCheesypickles

    3 ай бұрын

    @@gnutzguy Thanks that what I thought. Those people must just not understand how to remove them.

  • @superdupermax
    @superdupermax3 ай бұрын

    one problem i got with my folder is there no positive stop at the open position. i have to wiggle it. hope it get better with use

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    mine stop ok.

  • @ebblank468
    @ebblank4682 ай бұрын

    do you think It would be worth it to get rid of a french tickler for an underfolder 81m?

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    2 ай бұрын

    But the FT is only $500 while the UF is $1200 so there is no comparison.

  • @CODMONSTER4LIFE
    @CODMONSTER4LIFE2 ай бұрын

    I have a compatibility question, do you know if the top cherry wood handguard from the type 81 SE SA would fit on a type81M the new one orange wood from this year? I would like to swap it easily and not see any gaps/shims / do any machining. I see you have many versions I’m hoping you might know!

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    2 ай бұрын

    that depends on whether you are talking about the woods on the upper or lower HG. on the upper all are interchangeable except the dragunov variant 2 also bare in mind the orange wood has a deep finger grove where as the red and blonde dont. on the lower, the red are not interchangeable with variant 2 and variant 3, only with variant 1.

  • @CODMONSTER4LIFE

    @CODMONSTER4LIFE

    2 ай бұрын

    Yeah I’m looking for an upper handguard for my orange M from this year, so for the red SA SE upper does the compatibility also extend to the metal piece it’s attached to? The metal part that goes over the gas block, I’m hoping I can go back and forth between these two without messing with rivets each time. Thanks!!!

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    2 ай бұрын

    @@CODMONSTER4LIFE red and orange uppers are interchangeable, both wood and metal.

  • @CODMONSTER4LIFE

    @CODMONSTER4LIFE

    2 ай бұрын

    @@gnutzguy exactly what I was looking for. You’re a savior friend!

  • @Michael-io8ge
    @Michael-io8ge3 ай бұрын

    I'm new to these guns but does the bend even matter (other than aesthetics) if you are just shooting with the irons? I gather this barrel / receiver misalignment is somewhat common in mass produced military rifles.

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    if using iron sight or red dot on quad rail HG then no. it effect scope users so my deviation is 3mm. my bullet lands 30" off center. but we arent paying mass produced military rifles prices? at $1200 they should afford better QC.

  • @Michael-io8ge

    @Michael-io8ge

    3 ай бұрын

    @@gnutzguy I agree, I just wanted to understand what effect the issue had on accuracy, so I appreciate the reply.

  • @MrCheesypickles
    @MrCheesypickles3 ай бұрын

    Are they noticeably more front heavy compared to the version ones with the pencil barrel?

  • @eman2498

    @eman2498

    3 ай бұрын

    I can only speak for the underfolder and the side folder - yes they are heavier in my opinion. Not a deal breaker for me.

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    totally agree.

  • @legroston3
    @legroston32 ай бұрын

    I would like to cut down the barrel sleeve to original length; are you saying that would make the rifle restricted? I haven't measured everything but, the overall length should be fine. Love your channel. Truly a reference for the Canadian gun community. Thank you.

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    2 ай бұрын

    To my knowledge, you can't cut barrel to restricted. Best to consult with a gunsmith plus the bore is chrome so you need to be careful not to chip it around the muzzle then you need to crown it.

  • @legroston3

    @legroston3

    2 ай бұрын

    @gnutzguy I meant to cut the grenade launcher sleeve to the original 2-rings length plus add the longer ring at the muzzle. Maybe even the groove for the bayonet. I'd prefer not to mess with the barrel if possible. Of course, I would consult a gunsmith for the same reasons you mentioned. I also don't have a lot of the required tooling and would probably ruin the rifle if I did😅 Thanks for answering.

  • @realestateuploads176
    @realestateuploads1763 ай бұрын

    I got a type81m fixed and it is noticeably bent, disappointed and dont want it anymore, going to try and send it back.

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    I hear ya but they won't take it back without proof of the deviation test.

  • @AthelstanKing

    @AthelstanKing

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@gnutzguythat's because so many people have become convinced that their gun is bent when in reality it's perfectly fine. No doubt some have issues, like TI said .05% of all previous rifles had the issue. One guy screaming out of 2000 makes everyone think the issue is universal. It's good they require proof or else theyd end up refunding perfectly fine rifles.

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    @@AthelstanKing you are wrong. The truth lies somewhere between universal and what importer says.

  • @chinbb
    @chinbb3 ай бұрын

    Tks for posting your reviews. How is the fit and finish of 81M compared to the LMG?

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    not as good . the LMG was the best (thus no bent) and you can get blued finish. this variant only comes in park.

  • @chinbb

    @chinbb

    3 ай бұрын

    @@gnutzguy sounded like you prefer blued rather phosphate... Any reasons why? For the looks?

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    @@chinbb yup. Prefer blued but park is more durable and cheaper to process. Somehow the M park still doesn't look as good as the lmg park. Weird,,?

  • @chinbb

    @chinbb

    3 ай бұрын

    @@gnutzguy I tend to agree. My blued LMG was built like a showpiece while my underfolder M looks like it was built on a Monday by some guy who had a hangover from the weekend.

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    @@chinbb lol

  • @louislavoie1238
    @louislavoie1238Ай бұрын

    I'm buying a T81 underfolder. They are priced lower than most other T81. Will put underfolder on SKS for the ultimate ruck sack rifle. Then will fiddle around putting either a fixed stock or VZ58 side folder on the T81. Problems to my perfect plan?

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    Ай бұрын

    when i first posted a vid on installing a underfolder on SKS, the problem was there werent enuff of AK underfolders in canada, plenty in the US. the T81 solves that problem. good plan, i wanna do the same vid but the only problem i see is how do you plug the large gapping holes (looks fugly) left by the underfolder? hoping for an upstart company to make an alloy adapter that will solve that problem, similar to the AK underfolder to M4 stock in the US.

  • @louislavoie1238

    @louislavoie1238

    Ай бұрын

    @@gnutzguy Yeah, I'll end up with holes to plug somehow. Cant be to fussy when youre broke hehe. I'll let you know how I go about it. My Bubba spirit is strong and I'm a toolmaker so I'll figure out something. Also, I'm in touch with NorthernArmoury on Gunpost he produce nice 3D printed stuff for the T81. Plenty of SR owners with buyers remorses to help too!

  • @mr211595
    @mr2115953 ай бұрын

    The deviation is for horizontal bend . Is there a test for a vertical bend or does that matter ?

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    For T81? Yes , same test, very easy to test from the top but how do you verify the deviation from the bottom?

  • @CodieWard-md7ib
    @CodieWard-md7ibАй бұрын

    Watch out for a chip in the barrel just below the crown ....I had 3 separate replacements with the exact same issue in the exact same spot...tactical imports said it was a manufacturers issue....said they couldnt garuntee how many were like that.. seem ok with selling them to people though

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    Ай бұрын

    lol. thanks for pointing that out altho this is the first time i've heard of it, nothing on CGN.

  • @ditchdigger9612
    @ditchdigger96123 ай бұрын

    I just got mine and measured using your method but with paint sticks cause I didn’t have magnet lol. Seems to be bang on ! Can’t wait to shoot and thanks for the video on checking the barrel

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    Ditch, glad to hear. Was yours a underfolder?

  • @ditchdigger9612

    @ditchdigger9612

    3 ай бұрын

    @@gnutzguy yes it’s a underfolder, I was never interested in the lmg or sr versions, and the folders were never available for a fair price. This one I’m very happy with

  • @savvykavvy9507
    @savvykavvy95073 ай бұрын

    How do you remove the "grenade launcher" muzzle device?

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    link in the description.

  • @MKx01
    @MKx013 ай бұрын

    at 21 minutes you mention the future for the t81 and mentioned RESTRICTED. gosh, i would buy an "ak74U" aesthetic one so fast, just like i bought the "sniper riflle" aesthetic SR.

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    like i said, its following the same path the VZ58 had taken, i dont see why this would be any different. hint hint to the inporter, lol.

  • @FronkG

    @FronkG

    3 ай бұрын

    @@gnutzguy oh man I would love a SBR

  • @nicklesacc1427
    @nicklesacc14273 ай бұрын

    I cant wait to get mine! I ordered it optioned out!

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    What does "optioned out" means?

  • @mouthbreather280

    @mouthbreather280

    3 ай бұрын

    @@gnutzguy he means he got the mlok handguard variant, added a muzzle device, picked up extra mags and sling, and whatever else was available on the order screen when buying off TI. They had a couple options you could add on.

  • @prsee5969
    @prsee59693 ай бұрын

    lol yo I’m totally an under folding fan boi as well lol heck I paid so much to just find an adapter for the vz58 to slap a folder on it lol I feel you dude!

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    we should start an underfolder fan club? lol.

  • @prsee5969

    @prsee5969

    3 ай бұрын

    @@gnutzguy100% I would be in lol I’m also crazy for the dong lol😂 I had made a custom one for my compact, full wooden set (no stock) but the pistol grip, the small top hand guard and the bottom hand guard had sort of like a shark fin coming out that would grip your finger/hand real well. I’m still waiting for mine to arrive.

  • @christoto7y
    @christoto7y3 ай бұрын

    Is there a knowed way to try fixing the bent or its a way of life ?? I have an 2020 folding

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    Nothing

  • @christoto7y

    @christoto7y

    3 ай бұрын

    @@gnutzguy rip

  • @nicholasarnold8028
    @nicholasarnold80283 ай бұрын

    Does anyone know if the sigmico gen 2 handguards fit the new type 81m?

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    Their web site says it fits lmg so it will fit the M also

  • @nicholasarnold8028

    @nicholasarnold8028

    3 ай бұрын

    Ok thanks

  • @winstonholmes5566
    @winstonholmes55663 ай бұрын

    How precise are magnets stuck to the side of a stamped piece of steel and then also using a ruler that could have a bend in it ? I’m not saying you are wrong, but I wouldn’t be convinced it was bent using this method. And does it really do anything ? The barrel isn’t bent. It may not be perfect on the receiver but that could be on anything and i don’t think it matters much with a rifle that has both sites on the barrel. I could be wrong. I’m curious on someone else’s input.

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    i didnt finish reading your post bcos this is the method the warranty call for. ofcos there are other method but probably most owners could do this.

  • @aaronpestano6921

    @aaronpestano6921

    2 ай бұрын

    Hi! I got interested in the type 81s recently and order an underfolder on TI a couple days ago. Now, after reading through forums and watching your vids reg canted barrels, now im kinda worried. In your case you said it's

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    2 ай бұрын

    @@aaronpestano6921 a bent T81 only effect you if you use a scope, otherwise no issue. just not perfect.

  • @aaronpestano6921

    @aaronpestano6921

    2 ай бұрын

    thanks you so much for the clarification! much appreciated! this is the answer i was looking for. ​i thought it was something so critical that affects the overall functionality of the firearm especially, safety. my firearms knowledge is still limited and the info you provide and videos you do provide a wealth of knowledge. @gnutzguy

  • @tweakohgy4471
    @tweakohgy44713 ай бұрын

    I really like the red wood variants but the m is the nicest so far

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    the red stain is to cover up the cheap wood and finishing is poorly done.

  • @evansaw293
    @evansaw2933 ай бұрын

    What models all had bends? The se is the only one I can think of

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    variant 1 & 3 had bent . none from variant 2.

  • @evansaw293

    @evansaw293

    3 ай бұрын

    @@gnutzguy 1 was the blonde. 2 the lmg and 3 the se/folder? What is the SR?

  • @qd3mt
    @qd3mt3 ай бұрын

    I learned a new word' deviation, thanks

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    lol.

  • @FronkG
    @FronkG3 ай бұрын

    Mine has a canted gas block, stuck gas plug and piston dont even ride smoothly in the gas plug. My old SE did not have the issue. Man im heart broken

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    the import will replace it.

  • @FronkG

    @FronkG

    3 ай бұрын

    @@gnutzguy i hope so. The gas plug is literally stuck.

  • @cristianx9581
    @cristianx95813 ай бұрын

    is the gas regulator similar to the russian Dragunov?

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    Nope, they did not copy any one. That's why it was allowed into Canada

  • @superdupermax
    @superdupermax3 ай бұрын

    Someone did a break down and SR has different pinning on the barrel. Pins are further apart.

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    dragunov and clubfoot has bigger barrel blocks thus no bent.

  • @superdupermax

    @superdupermax

    3 ай бұрын

    @@gnutzguy clubfoot 😂

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    yup the LMG

  • @dougjudy2305
    @dougjudy230514 күн бұрын

    Can you change the stock on the underfolder?

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    13 күн бұрын

    yup, you can but first you need to watch my underfolder disassembly (not easy) and secondly, you dont mind gapping holes left by the underfolder. some people are making 3d printed adapter that cover up the holes and attach a m4 tube but suspect it wouldnt last. needs to be made of alloy.

  • @dougjudy2305

    @dougjudy2305

    13 күн бұрын

    @@gnutzguy thank you for your answer. most appreciated

  • @CharlesConover
    @CharlesConover3 ай бұрын

    That’s not available in USA?

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    nope, they banned firearms from china back in 1994.

  • @ShaneThrice
    @ShaneThrice3 ай бұрын

    you can also use a cartridge to adjust the gas.

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    Yup . I know , lol.

  • @ShaneThrice

    @ShaneThrice

    3 ай бұрын

    @@gnutzguy yea I figured you did it was more for chat.

  • @vitalyyazamir606
    @vitalyyazamir6063 ай бұрын

    Underfolder is awesome... except of the issue that you can't switch safety lever positions while buttstock is folded!

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • @Maxiusmilianio
    @Maxiusmilianio3 ай бұрын

    The method to check if line is centred on the barrel doesn't seem right. In your example, if the line is drawn 2mm off centre to either side, the 2 measurements would still add up to 44mm.

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    correct. see third example and they do add up to 44mm. dont take the diagram as actual.

  • @zhuravl-m2285
    @zhuravl-m22853 ай бұрын

    Prefer my Type 81 SE still, but more options are always good, and I'd keep both

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    you mean more variants? yup, we need a T81 krinkov, lol

  • @zhuravl-m2285

    @zhuravl-m2285

    3 ай бұрын

    @@gnutzguy That is precisely what we need next. And after that, a T81 PCC xD

  • @mr.awesome8424
    @mr.awesome84243 ай бұрын

    I’ll take my 858 4v over one of these anyday!

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    lets change the govern first.

  • @ryaningham904
    @ryaningham9043 ай бұрын

    For the deviation test- It would make more sense to measure to one side of the barrel (as in the side furthest from your straight edge, regardless of the side you measure). The way you do it does NOT correct for if you aren't exactly centred on the barrel with your marks (if you are 2mm to the left, then that side shows 2mm less and the other 2mm more). Great info though, thx.

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    Lol. I know what you mean but this is the procedure they recommend for warranty.

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    did you read the description?

  • @captaincj2778
    @captaincj27782 ай бұрын

    Please be a hero and try to install an underfolder adapter to ar15 buffer tube stocks. We need to see if that works for us who didn’t get the chance to buy the fixed stock and don’t like underfolders like you loved them

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    2 ай бұрын

    sorry, i dont import parts for prohib.

  • @captaincj2778

    @captaincj2778

    2 ай бұрын

    @@gnutzguy sorry i’m not fluent in english i think you misunderstood me, i’m talking of the adapter to put a buffer tube style stock on the type 81 underfolder.

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    2 ай бұрын

    @@captaincj2778 no misunderstandings. The adapter is made for AK and AKM which are prohibited in Canada. We are not allowed to import any parts made for prohibited guns so it's risky purchase. It could be ceased by CBSA.

  • @captaincj2778

    @captaincj2778

    2 ай бұрын

    @@gnutzguy ooh okay, didn’t thought of that, it’s a damn shame i hope someone manufactured something in the near future

  • @nicholasfrancoeur3897
    @nicholasfrancoeur38973 ай бұрын

    Worth it in your opinion ?

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    Every penny

  • @superdupermax
    @superdupermax3 ай бұрын

    Give me under folder for the sks... i need it.

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    lol. no way.

  • @superdupermax

    @superdupermax

    3 ай бұрын

    @@gnutzguy i got xcr kit on my sks. Folding stock would fuck pretty good. Well... i want a triangle side folder

  • @aarontitusz8655
    @aarontitusz86553 ай бұрын

    I need a 556 type 81

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    yup, 308 wouldnt hurt either.

  • @eman2498

    @eman2498

    3 ай бұрын

    Yes!

  • @aarontitusz8655

    @aarontitusz8655

    3 ай бұрын

    Range friendly (non corrosive non steel core) 223/556 is just so much cheaper than 762x39

  • @nicholasarnold8028
    @nicholasarnold80283 ай бұрын

    Does it fit the same aftermarket handguards as the other models?

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    which aftermarket HG?

  • @nicholasarnold8028

    @nicholasarnold8028

    3 ай бұрын

    The Gen 2 Handguard from sigmico

  • @MrFunguy8739
    @MrFunguy87393 ай бұрын

    People are already selling them on gunpost💀

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    thats what free market means, lol.

  • @jluvs2ride
    @jluvs2ride3 ай бұрын

    VZ 58 with a stamped receiver.

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    Nope, no even close. the vz58 are completely different. vz58 has striker.

  • @jluvs2ride

    @jluvs2ride

    3 ай бұрын

    @@gnutzguy yeah, the vz58 is striker fired.

  • @Mr.Rakija
    @Mr.Rakija3 ай бұрын

    what thee lord almighty vz58 is that thing. muzzle flash city.

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    muzzle flash city?

  • @CharlesConover

    @CharlesConover

    3 ай бұрын

    We want fireballs

  • @Mr.Rakija

    @Mr.Rakija

    3 ай бұрын

    Charles knows. 🎉

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Mr.Rakija if you said fireball , I would get it but WTH is city?

  • @hardstyle719
    @hardstyle7192 ай бұрын

    Has anyone tried straightening the receiver ?

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    2 ай бұрын

    It's not the receiver nor the barrel, both are straight. It's at the barrel block, not something any of us should tackle. Best left for a gunsmith.

  • @hardstyle719

    @hardstyle719

    2 ай бұрын

    @@gnutzguy are there any negatives to this ? I thought it was the receiver because my side mount for the scope doesn't center and is way off, plus looking down the receiver it looks pushed out on the left side.

  • @hardstyle719

    @hardstyle719

    2 ай бұрын

    @@gnutzguy I was referring to my own gun btw but I'm guessing most barrel blocks are offset or is the block actually warped/bent?

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    2 ай бұрын

    @@hardstyle719 how much is yours deviated? If your receiver is actually bent then you would experience fail to feed and fail to eject.

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    2 ай бұрын

    @@hardstyle719 the problem lies with the short barrel blocks, no issue with the long barrel blocks used in the lmg and sr so don't know why they can't fix it?

  • @johnjohnyjonock
    @johnjohnyjonock3 ай бұрын

    My fixed stock type m is bent also, so dissatisfied

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    What's the deviation?

  • @johnjohnyjonock

    @johnjohnyjonock

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@gnutzguylet you know when I'm back in a couple of weeks

  • @MM-kv8ly
    @MM-kv8ly3 ай бұрын

    One of the biggest reasons that I have never bought one is the chance that it will be bent. That would drive me nuts!

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    but my love of underfolder over came my dislike for bent, lol

  • @jalexandermt
    @jalexandermt3 ай бұрын

    Because I like math I did it for yall Numbers rounded and going off 3mm over 18 inches. 50m shot puts your point of impact 0.7 inches over 100m shot puts your point of impact 1.4 inches over If your using the irons, the bent trunnion isn't an issue. If your using a receiver mounted scope sighted in at 50m your point of impact at 100m will be ½" off

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    your math is wrong. using basic math. 3mm= 18" 328mm= 50m (1968") 656mm= 100m (3937") .... 656mm is 25.8" not 1.4"

  • @jalexandermt

    @jalexandermt

    3 ай бұрын

    @@gnutzguy I redid my math. You're correct. It's a .4° angle. I somehow got lost and was going with .004

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    @@jalexandermt No worries. So can imagine my first rifle was 5.5 degree deviation. Almost hitting the next guy 🎯 target, lol. Joking

  • @markcomisky7106
    @markcomisky71063 ай бұрын

    It seems cheap is it worth it

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    every penny for the underfolder.

  • @popemobile12
    @popemobile123 ай бұрын

    I want a 5.56 version

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    me too, lol.

  • @williamdevitt7866
    @williamdevitt78663 ай бұрын

    You say 3 degrees is that not 3m/m if so that gun would shoot like shit 3 m/m at the tube will be like how much off center at 100 yrds 30 feet just saying i was going to buy one of these but after seeing some videos on how they are off well they can keep them now that being said is it bent or is it just not centered in the trunion block oh and that vz58 what happened to that gun did you chop the barrel down and if you did um i sure the hell your not up here in CANADSTAN LIKE IAM because i am pretty sure the little thing would be classes as prohib in fact that would be um worse the chopping down an old side by side shot gun actually that would be good old rcmp bait i like my rpal to much to have that kind of gun

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    im guessin you didnt read the description. i made the correction there already. it was late and i was tired, i got confused, lol.

  • @MakaveliThaDonKilluminati
    @MakaveliThaDonKilluminati3 ай бұрын

    why couldnt you wait to relese this lol it will be sold out in 10 minutes

  • @Mr.Rakija

    @Mr.Rakija

    3 ай бұрын

    Take the loan, jump on that boat. dont wait.

  • @tarzanstrickland
    @tarzanstrickland3 ай бұрын

    27:51 results

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    they wont warranty with deviation of less than 4mm. i got 3 so no result

  • @tarzanstrickland

    @tarzanstrickland

    3 ай бұрын

    @@gnutzguy 👍

  • @Phasmomancer
    @Phasmomancer3 ай бұрын

    Spending 1.5k On a rifle and having to do your own QC to see if its bent or not is a absolute joke.

  • @stoop14

    @stoop14

    3 ай бұрын

    I just canceled my order, I'm not supporting this scam company. Not to mention the non existent customer support or communication. Or 3 weeks and still no rifle shipped.

  • @lexus9337

    @lexus9337

    3 ай бұрын

    @derweissewolfe348 i would accept it on a AK that's for sure.

  • @johnjohnyjonock

    @johnjohnyjonock

    3 ай бұрын

    Maybe these are rejected guns from another contract and then TI buys them cheap and sells to us

  • @user-ib8in9uf5t

    @user-ib8in9uf5t

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@derweissewolfe348 the canadaguns reddit is both funny and disappointing rn. Someone received their t81 with no mag release😂

  • @teddynaicker2997

    @teddynaicker2997

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@johnjohnyjonockI get your point. It's a hit or miss kinda deal. But if you get the perfect one then it's a solid and reliable gun that eats and spits any ammo and built like a tank. These modern tactical version guns will break way before these beast.

  • @qianshuixiang4852
    @qianshuixiang48523 ай бұрын

    thank you . now I dont want to buy🙃

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    but... but... but... you could be lucky, lol

  • @remicharbonneau9800
    @remicharbonneau98003 ай бұрын

    these rifles are 200$ rifles, no way any african country is paying 1000$ a piece

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    Those China subsidized.

  • @OBrienx666

    @OBrienx666

    3 ай бұрын

    What was the short underfold you shown that wasn't a sks or type81? Still obtainable in canada?

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    @@OBrienx666 VZ58 and it's prohibited a few years ago.

  • @OBrienx666
    @OBrienx6663 ай бұрын

    These rifles are pure trash and only look cool ... like a ak... but its not a AK

  • @gnutzguy

    @gnutzguy

    3 ай бұрын

    yup, looks very COOOOLLLL !!! meant to be better than AK