Me: I know all about WWII Mark: did you know Italians bombed Great Britain? Me: wtf

@hshs5756

4 жыл бұрын

Mark has an uncanny ability to pick stories even us history buffs have never heard of. I learn something from him every time he posts a video.

@Guhonter

4 жыл бұрын

Same here. What a great channel, so glad I subscribed

@BELCAN57

4 жыл бұрын

WTF indeed!

@thatguyoverthere9634

4 жыл бұрын

The Italians took part in every theater other than the Pacific although I'd imagine you are well versed in Mark Felton videos and have seen the footage of Italian troops at stalingrad. I dont think he has actually said anything about it but there are other channels that briefly go over it

@Marco187Polo

4 жыл бұрын

Tuljan i feel you XD

KZread: "Italian Raids on England" Me, An Intellectual: *"Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs"*

@ftv2376

4 жыл бұрын

Matodin IV This Deserves more likes

@thatonecrytian8997

4 жыл бұрын

Matodin IV: You clever bastard lol

@benwinter2420

4 жыл бұрын

Mum a mia

@aidanbrimmer1493

4 жыл бұрын

I like this one.

@lucignolo8333

4 жыл бұрын

I’m italian and this made me cloudy

Italy: i'm helping Germany: Not really...

@thecommentaryking

4 жыл бұрын

History: actually yes

@e-rj8984

4 жыл бұрын

Germany and Italy was allied during The World War 2! Please try Google and Wikipedia...

@hootsmon4723

4 жыл бұрын

Got to say ...i had to laugh at our post very short but extremely funny. 🤣🤣🤣. You sir are a wit ...🤣

@GaldirEonai

4 жыл бұрын

If Mussolini had been capable of recognizing the limitations of his country and armed forces, he could have achieved a lot more for the axis and not routinely bitten off more than he could chew. But of course, if he'd been capable of that he wouldn't have been Mussolini.

@Mike-tw1pi

4 жыл бұрын

So true! Even the Luftwaffe high command didn't want the Italian "help" because of the logistics issues and diminished performance capability, compared to the German aircraft types in use.

One of my late father’s wartime duties was guarding Italian POWs. He said that they were a great bunch of lads, very friendly and happy to be out of the combat zone.

@vk2ig

4 жыл бұрын

Quite a few of them captured in the Northern Desert campaign ended up as POWs in Australia, and were "hired out" to the farmers. And some of them returned as post-war immigrants after arriving home and discovering what a mess Europe had become.

@carmium

4 жыл бұрын

Che cosa?! Ima so surprise!

@lawrencelewis8105

4 жыл бұрын

yeah, they surrendered readily, probably thinking- "who's the smart ones?" A lot of them were taken to Canada where they worked on farms and in forests and a lot of them never returned to Italy, becoming Canadian citizens.

@jasonmussett2129

4 жыл бұрын

Some also worked on Mersea Island as gardeners. They seemed reasonably content with their way of life. They got on pretty well with the locals, so did any German POWs.

@keithheydenrych3961

4 жыл бұрын

Many were sent to South Africa as well, my father in law being one of them. He returned to Italy to fetch his young brother and they lived out their lives here in SA.

The RAF ace Stamford Tuck wrote about his engagement with Italian biplane fighters during the Battle of Britain period and was actually full of praise for the daredevil aeronautical skills of the Italian pilots and the versatility of their aircraft.

@jasonmussett2129

4 жыл бұрын

The Italians had some excellent aircraft, the CR42 was, as my late uncle would have put it; a nimble little kite.

@feetgoaroundfullflapsC

4 жыл бұрын

I read that book at around 1979 after I did my CPL. He said he shot at one bomber and the pilot did one loop with it. He had never seen a German pilot loop a bomber when been shot at. Any small twin can be looped or rolled. Those are easy to do aerobatics anyway. It can be also a nervous reaction from the pilot. Why? You cannot outmaneuver a fighter plane. Hell no.. By doing maneuvers 1-your gunners will lose aim of the smaller fighters. 2-Bombers CANNOT OUTMANEUVER A FIGHTER PLANE. Dam nervous GUIDOs.. LOL.. Those were just nervous reaction from those coward Italians. Not a feat by any bomber. Pilot Errors. Im a CFI of aerobatics and Upset Pilot Training.

@psdaniells

4 жыл бұрын

That where I heard about it also. Fly for your Life?

@SNP-1999

4 жыл бұрын

@@psdaniells That's right. I however disagree with the above viewer for generally calling all the Italians cowards. In the case of the looping bomber, who knows if the pilot hadn't been wounded during the attack? Stamford Tuck certainly couldn't, he only witnessed what happened - and even the feat of looping with a bomber must prove the pilot's flying skills, not automatically his cowardice. For an alleged qualified flying instructor, the viewer also wrote uncommonly faulty English, but I will leave it at that.

These italians are taking the pizza delivery way to far.

@chrisneedham5803

4 жыл бұрын

One question...... were pizzas delivered in boxes in WW11?

@toasterbathboi6298

4 жыл бұрын

Figuratively and literally too far

@hymatwat9412

4 жыл бұрын

Everyone's favorite neighbourhood nazi 😂 Luigi me no navigato

@TEA-fj3ut

4 жыл бұрын

Especially when more Italians suffered loss of aircraft & pilots on their sorties than the British.

@SnowBunneh

4 жыл бұрын

I used to work for pizza hut until my car got shot at. I would say even conventional delivery is still dangerous.

Didn't Churchill say when he heard that Italy was joining the War on Germany's side something along the lines of "that's only fair. We had them last time . "

@Beowulf_DW

4 жыл бұрын

One of my sisters taught engineering in Aachen for a semester or two, and told me that, occasionally, the Japanese students would go drinking with the German students. After getting sufficiently inebriated, the Japanese students would say to the Germans, "Next time we'll try it without the Italians." The Germans would usually grin and laugh awkwardly.

"Italians lose wars as if they were football matches, and football matches as if they were wars" - Winston Churchill

Technology comes at you fast. 5 years earlier, the Italians Air Force would have been formidable, by 1940...sitting ducks.

@riograndedosulball248

4 жыл бұрын

In Spain and Finland they were the absolute terror to communist aviators and ground troops... But against 20mm cannons and full metal fighters, there was no future for the Regia Aeronautica. Only when they got German engines under license that italian planes become worth something once again

@magoid

4 жыл бұрын

@@riograndedosulball248 you know whats funny? The Italians built the fastest Schneider Trophy plane, but while the British managed to create the Merlin/Spitfire out of the race efforts, the Italians didn't get a good 1000 hp V12 in time for WWII, while almost everybody else did.

@warpartyattheoutpost4987

4 жыл бұрын

The technological leaps in aviation during WWII were CRAZY! Biplanes at the beginning... jets, rocket fighters and spacefaring ballistic missiles towards the end.

@official_commanderhale965

4 жыл бұрын

The 202 was the only decent fighter they ever had in a war setting they faced

@BoarhideGaming

4 жыл бұрын

@@riograndedosulball248 By the battle of britain, the RAF still mainly fielded rifle caliber machine guns on their planes, though in great numbers, which were still easily enough to dispatch of the lumbering Italian machines. Fared well against the German planes too

I know they are the butt of jokes, but credit where it's due - it took a brave man to fly a CR.42 against modern fighters by late 1940.

@jinglejangle3287

4 жыл бұрын

Indeed, italians were very brave, not just in this event.

@elliskaranikolaou2550

4 жыл бұрын

True, and the Brits of the time showed the Italian pilots in their CR42's plenty of respect because they knew they could be dangerous. They even brought down Hurricanes. "A week later, a dozen CR.42s from 23° Gruppo appeared in the sky over Malta for a reconnaissance. Flight Lieutenants Peter Keeble and Burges scrambled to intercept them, and the resulting action greatly impressed the Malta defenders with the CR.42's maneuvering capability. Keeble attacked one CR.42 - probably the aircraft (MM4368) flown by Sottotenente Mario Benedetti of 74a Squadriglia that crashed, killing its pilot, but then came under attack himself by the Falchi of Tenente Mario Pinna and Tenente Oscar Abello. Keeble tried to dogfight with the Italians, but his engine was hit and his Hurricane dived into the ground at Wied-il-Ghajn, near Fort Rinella, and blew up; he was the first pilot to be killed in action at Malta."

@Cloudman572

4 жыл бұрын

@@elliskaranikolaou2550 Any enemy deserves some respect as there is no sure thing in war. However a lot of the respect was due to the quantity of Italian planes over Malta Vs the few British planes.

@vk2ig

4 жыл бұрын

Indeed. People should realise that it would be like Allied pilots taking a Brewster Buffalo or a Wirraway trainer out to fight Mitsubishi Zeroes.

@jasonmussett2129

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, definitely!

"A big mistake by Mussolini." It wouldn't be his last.

@DrJones20

4 жыл бұрын

Or his first

When i was a kid i used to go to the local Italian Air Force Club (AAA) as my dad was part of the military. There i was well liked by the veterans, and i loved to hear the war stories. The most famous of them was a CR.42 ace which fought in the battle of Britain, and had some incredible tales to tell. While he was a short man in his 80s he was still capable of carrying me on his shoulders, the most sweet memory i have is when the Historic Museum of the Aeronautica Militare invited the club as they opened a new section, they presented a restored CR.42 to the veteran. He didn't see that plane since WWII, as Italy lost all of them in the war and none were preserved, i still remember that, immediately after the unveiling of the plane, he didn't pronounce a single word, he just walked toward the biplane and hugged the propeller, with tears on his face, while the crowd applauded and cheered.

@jasonmussett2129

4 жыл бұрын

I'd love to hear their stories.

@brainyskeletonofdoom7824

4 жыл бұрын

​@@jasonmussett2129 One of my favourite was when, in one of the last flight in the CR.42 (just before switching to the MC series) he had to intercept some bombers (he called them "Flying Fortesses" but im not so sure they were B-17s). After barely finding and catching them in a dive he and the other fighters soon found out that the armament of the biplanes did almost nothing to the bombers, so he kept firing all he had until he noticed that he was too close to his target. He pulled up with all his strength and the plane emitted a weird metallic sound, but he managed to recover and level the plane, just to see the faster bombers fly away. After a difficult landing, in a plane that behaved in a weird unstable manner, he got on the ground and saw everyone giving him weird looks, then his commander approached him and said something like "I now you want to catch them, but grabbing their tails seems a little too much", and he pointed at the nose of the plane, which was visibly damaged and scratched, along with a slightly bent blade. Probably, as most of the war stories, he could have sometimes... enhanced them for a laugh or two, but you could read the seriousness in his eyes when he told the most dramatic parts and when he talked about lost friends, but he was also sure to always follow with a lighter story or a joke to cheer up everyone around him. He was already a high ranking officer when i met him, but he seemed to not care so much about ranks, when civilians asked for his role he used to say "im just a general, nothing impressive", which of course only impressed more the interlocutor. His name was Giuseppe Ruzzin by the way, he liked to take photos of what he saw during the war, and some of them are on the Internet, very interesting subjects as well, like the Italian BF-109s G just before the Civil War/Italian surrender. (He sided with the Axis after Italy split in two, i was amazed to see that there was no grudge between the veterans on different sides, but everyone even joked about that!).

If the Italians had won, British high streets would now be full of coffee shops and pizzerias - oh, wait.

@jasonmussett2129

4 жыл бұрын

They are!

@thespamdance311

4 жыл бұрын

It’s a shame they didn’t. The coffee would’ve been palatable and the pizza wouldn’t have fucking sweetcorn on it!

@elwolf8536

4 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@unclestuka8543

4 жыл бұрын

Also, if the Germans had won, we would all be driving German cars and shopping in German super markets !

Mockery and criticism of the leadership is valid. But any aviator who flies in to combat is worthy of respect, especially if that pilot might suspect his aircraft is inferior.

@normanhewitt9345

4 жыл бұрын

Mike Well said Italian naval frogmen wrought mayhem in the port of Alexandria damaging several major battleships They were light years ahead of the allies in that field so much so they were sought out and turned after Italy sought peace in 1943 No lack of guts with those men Incredibly brave

@jasonmussett2129

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I agree with the pair of you. Well said guys!

I had an Italian parachute that came from a man who as a boy during the Battle of Britain had an Italian pilot officer land in their garden after his bomber was shot down. He said that his mother served tea and they had a nice conversation (he spoke very good English) while waiting for the authorities to come and "collect" him! They saved the parachute as a souvenir,

Italy is like the goof brother of Germany in WW2 “Can I try? can I try?” “Fine Italy” “Thank you thank you thank you

@emermbiemer302

4 жыл бұрын

Russian Bias 😂

@tommeakin1732

4 жыл бұрын

Italy: **Falls over,scrapes knee and bursts into tears** Germany: Oh for god sake you are useless. Let me help you up... Italy: No! You're not my friend anymore! **Switches sides**

@pickeljarsforhillary102

4 жыл бұрын

The true Fredo of the Axis.

@raedwulf61

4 жыл бұрын

"Fredo"

@billy56081

4 жыл бұрын

The Fredo of Europe!

When he said they were flying Fiats, I knew this was not going to end well lol

@Skyprince27

4 жыл бұрын

@David Madden As it does today, Fiat stands for “Fix It Again, Tony”.

@georgecoventry8441

4 жыл бұрын

Some Fiat designs actually were very fine aircraft when they entered service, but the planes they sent to attack Great Britain in 1940 weren't really modern enough to be fighting the RAF and the crews didn't have adequate navigational training. They lost a lot more planes to various accidents than they did in combat. Later in the war Fiat produced a really fine modern fighter, the Fiat G. 55 Centauro....just as capable as the later Allied fighters. It served in 1943-45 and fought on both sides.

@FallenPhoenix86

4 жыл бұрын

@@georgecoventry8441 great airframe... german engine though.

@ULTRA_2112

4 жыл бұрын

FIAT Racecar, 4 Cylinders, 28.5 Liters, 290 Hp at 1900 RPM.....and watch this.... 3 spark plug per cylinder, 4 valves per cylinder (16V) and it was a DOHC..... yes a double overhead camshaft in 1911 kzread.info/dash/bejne/lKeYucmmoJe6kbQ.html

When studying history it is important to remember that the Italians had a well disciplined professional military, outstanding generals, and advanced technology. Of course, they also called themselves Romans at that time.

@damyr

4 жыл бұрын

Except they didn't. Italians and Romans are two different things. :p

@thecommentaryking

4 жыл бұрын

What history? The one from memes, myths and WW2 propaganda or the real one?

@shelbyseelbach9568

4 жыл бұрын

@@thecommentaryking your cracking me up with that shit. You're woke, and everyone else are fools. Lmfao

@TheLocalLt

4 жыл бұрын

damyr not really. See fire of learning’s post Roman videos

@williamschlenger1518

4 жыл бұрын

Jonathan Schmidt Really?

I read an account by an RAF Hurricane pilot who flew against the Italian air force in North Africa. He said that the CR42s were very manoeuvrable and often skillfully flown. But "if you gave them a squirt with 8 Brownings they just fell out of the air "

Could you consider doing something about the Italians who fought on the Eastern Front, it is a little known part of WW2.

@jaroslavpalecek4513

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, much plese. Did they fight on the estern front incompetently like elsewhere?

@thecommentaryking

4 жыл бұрын

@@jaroslavpalecek4513 Shake more your head, it seems that your two brain cells are not connecting

@RadX_98

4 жыл бұрын

Jaroslav Look I found an Ignorant slav

@feden6840

4 жыл бұрын

@@jaroslavpalecek4513 Such a moron

@Handyman695

4 жыл бұрын

Alan Brown they fought extremely well first the CSIR and then the Italian 8th Army

"no hurricanes were lost during the battle" well i would hope so, seeing those planes xD

@thecommentaryking

4 жыл бұрын

Other war accounts claim at least 5 Hurricanes shot down

@feetgoaroundfullflapsC

4 жыл бұрын

@@thecommentaryking The Brit pilots lost control for laughing too hard at the Italians..

@feetgoaroundfullflapsC

4 жыл бұрын

@@thecommentaryking --Typical Italian lies and bologni.

You forgot to mention it was first military action against Britain from the Italian Peninsular since the Roman army withdrew around 410AD.

Thanks for this Mark, I was aware of the Italian Air Force using the biplanes during the very early stages of the BoB but not the bombing campaign. As a former RAF Airman and researchers I've learned so much from your channel. Thank you. Peace Charlie 🇬🇧

@trevillyan5515

4 жыл бұрын

I like your name

This I truly have not heard of.Good job

You have to feel bad for those men sent on basically suicide missions.

@jasonmussett2129

4 жыл бұрын

Suicide mission sums it up perfectly.

Good to know they were consistent with their incompetence.

@thecommentaryking

4 жыл бұрын

You instead are consinstent in your ignorance

@FallenPhoenix86

4 жыл бұрын

@@thecommentaryking What part of this pitiful saga demonstrated any fundamental level of competence exactly?

@JohnMacbeth

4 жыл бұрын

@@thecommentaryking Italy was a disastrous liability for Germany during WW2. You know it's going sideways when the Germans needed to occupy the northen half of Italy in 1943.

@davidearea242

4 жыл бұрын

@@thecommentaryking Perhaps you should learn to use spell check? You wouldn't want to be seen as ignorant would you?

My own 15 year old son is an RAF Full Corporal, 2428 ATC Squadron, he did not believe that Mussolini's Italian regime contributed to the Battle of Britain offensive until he watched this! Thank you Mark for helping to educate the next generation! Mark Barraclough.

There is a good documentary about this event it's called Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs.

@lafeeshmeister

4 жыл бұрын

omfg

@lafeeshmeister

4 жыл бұрын

I am going to hell for laughing at this

@trashman7906

4 жыл бұрын

Lol

@jakedee4117

4 жыл бұрын

Aye Thats A not a very A spicy meatball !

@termatron0812

4 жыл бұрын

THECITYHUNTER lmao

My dad grew up on a farm in Gloucestershire and he remembered Italian 3 engine bombers flying over the farm on the way to bombing RAF Kemble.

Me: "Drinking coffee sees new Mark Felton video" Cleeeeeeeeek!

@Roller_Ghoster

4 жыл бұрын

I think I've heard that before a few times (or two) 😯

@edsmith4995

4 жыл бұрын

Me: "Drinking Woodgate Pear Cider, £1.99 for a four pack from Lidl, sees new Mark Felton video" Yeeeees!

@shelbyseelbach9568

4 жыл бұрын

Cleeck? Oh, you mean cliiiiick. Got you.

I've read several books regarding the Battle of Britain and never once saw a reference to this. Thanks for providing another piece of history that should not be forgotten. For those who laugh at the Italians using biplane fighters, you might be interested to know that if not for one man, the Brits would have also been flying biplanes in the BoB. In the mid thirties, when the concept was "the bombers will always get through" and fighters were considered unimportant, fighter command was still flying biplanes. It was Air Chief Marshal Sir Hugh Dowding who fought tooth and nail against both the high command and the politicians for the development of modern fighters. He was the one responsible for the RAF adopting the Spitfire and Hurricane fighters to replace their own biplanes only a short time before the start of the war. He also fought for the development of early warning radar stations and the central command of all fighter squadrons for coordination of defence which played a key role in the BoB. If it could be said that any one man saved Britain during those dark hours, that man would be Sir Hugh Dowding. Sadly, since he was not popular with his superiors, the RAF official history of the BoB does not even mention his name. Doctor Felton, you may want to consider an episode about this remarkable man. He deserves it!!!!

Thank you, Mr. Mark, for tolerating all these ironic comments about the Italians, these demonstrations of respect are always appreciable.

People: What's that? Is it a bo... It's a me Mario!

@doctordarkness100

4 жыл бұрын

Oh hey its canadian mosley!

@NoFlu

4 жыл бұрын

Hey it's bikeseat sniffer mcgee

@hite.4322

4 жыл бұрын

@@doctordarkness100 every comment I post I get this or some other thing....

WWII history has been a hobby of mine since I was a little kid in the 1960s when my dad purchased Churchill's Second World War Life Magazine books filled with photos and illustrations of WWII, but this is the first time I've ever heard of Italian's bombing England. Thank You MARK!

News to me Italians bombing England , thanks for sharing, a CR42 gave my father a cut wrist when the pilot dumped his bombs half heartedly on a rock outcrop in North Africa early 40’s ,the shrapnel sliced his wrist , bloodied he managed to get the wound stitched up at an aid station, the scar was still visible when he died in 92’ .

Daily dose of history from our friend Mark Felton. Thank you sir!

it is a good day when Mark Felton uploads a new video, keep 'em coming and huge thanks for all your hard work.

As a born Essex lad, and living in Ipswich, I found this particularly incredible!

Thanks Mark for answering a previous request to do this.

Me: I know WW2 like the back of my hand Mark Felton: I am WW2

Absolutely love this channel.

Italian submarines were used in the Atlantic also.

@KVDC2008

4 жыл бұрын

They probably also got lost and the crew scuttled their submarines...

@siwokmuda6961

4 жыл бұрын

Impossible?

@Handyman695

4 жыл бұрын

In 189 patrols 32 Italian submarines operating from Bordeaux France sank 189 merchant ships and several warships totaling 568,573 tons sunk and another 200,000 tons of merchant ships damaged while losing 16 boats. So for every submarine lost the Italians sank 6.5 enemy ships

@pregno1421

4 жыл бұрын

It was actually planned to raid new the new York harbor

@Ingulf_The_Mad

4 жыл бұрын

@@KVDC2008 The submarine Leonardo Da Vinci became the top scoring non-German submarine of the entire war, with 120,243 tons sunk. And the atlantic operating italian submarines sunk a total of 593.864 tons of allied ships in less than three years. Pathetic, uh?

I look forward to your videos. The forgotten or obscure events of military history never fail to fascinate.

So glad I found this channel! I love WW2 history and I'm constantly surprised with how much I didn't know. So impressed how you can knock these excellent little slices of history out so quick Mark! Oh and 'obsolescence' new word to me, Thanks, keep em coming! :)

One Fiat CR42, after the attack on Harwich Crash landed by Corton rail way station north of Lowestoft, Suffolk. The pilot Flight Sergeant Antonio Lazzari, a 23-year-old from Milan was captured by members of the Royal Observer Corps who were off duty but working near by.

Unbelievable ,I've never heard of the Italians bombing England , these videos just get better and better !

I never fail to learn something new and interesting on your channel. Just splendid !!

There's so many incredible stories in World War 2, that I would otherwise probably never hear if it weren’t for Mark Felton helping bring these stories back to life, with a great theme song, concise straight to the point information, and a voice that makes you want to listen anyways. Youre the history teacher I wanted but never had! haha.

You tell the most amazing stories!

as always mark great video!

Very nice high quality video with flawless commentary. Well done Mark!

Thanks for another video. 👍🏻

We are definitely having an Italian segment recently. Very intresting to watch It always surprise me how people don't class the Italians as old enemies as much as the Germans .

1 - Thank you for an interesting video. 2 - My mother (died in 1979) lived in London during the Blitz, and believed that Italians had bombed London. 3 - I wish we could prevent the rude and smart-Alec replies made by those who've never had to fight or endure a war. It means one has to wade through so much rubbish to find the occasional interesting and informative reply. 4 - Perhaps sadly, Britain isn't run by Jews (myself anglo-saxon). I feel sure they would have run the country much better than the existing politicians over the last few years. But then so would the average Boy Scout troop. Daniel please note.

Love this subject!!!! Thank you Mark!!

Crikey - what other virtually unknown historical nuggets do you have in store for us I wonder! Brilliant work Mr Felton.

You should post also the Italian Navies midget submarine attacked in Alexandria where several British warship was sunk and damage.

So 70% of the Italian airplane casualties were essentially self-inflicted? "OWN GOAL ITALY!!"

@matthewpaine6908

4 жыл бұрын

I fairly Certain that 70% of ferraris burst into flames before they reach 100,000 miles. It is an Italian tradition.

you are spoiling us.thanks Mark!

Great, great channel. Please keep this stuff coming!

Bombsights and bombing procedure remained rudimentary in the Italian Air Force: the SM79, for example, lacked an intercom between pilot and bombardier. To confer with the pilot or request a second pass over a target, the bombardier had to crawl up to the cockpit. The lack of communication led to an entire formation to drop its bombs on the Italian fleet rather then on the British during the battle off Calabria.

Bet they dropped pasta sauce

@steventhornton4716

4 жыл бұрын

Spicy meatballs eh

@pickeljarsforhillary102

4 жыл бұрын

Ragu or Prego?

@goodguy4life889

4 жыл бұрын

Traditional or old world ?

@AndrewTubbiolo

4 жыл бұрын

Pesto made with the finest of pine nuts, the freshest of basil, and real extra virgin olive oil except the oil left behind for the engines.

@feetgoaroundfullflapsC

4 жыл бұрын

@Caliban777 Food centered fighters?? LOL. Diabetes and heart attacks all over. Been Food Centered is for Fredo's..

This is the most interesting channel I've ever found, all good info no bullshit.

This what I love about Mark Felton's videos: they shine a light on little known episodes of history that have gone unnoticed in the overall bigger picture of WW2.

When you showed us the Italians in the Blitz in that Rafwaffe vid you knew you were teasing us!

I was reading an accounts by British pilots , of fighting against the Italians. One reported as he chased a BR20 . It dived and just broke up in med air ! Another said, that the Fiat CR 42 was so nimble, it was impossible to shoot down . The Italians being masters of aerobatics . But after listening to this , some of course must have been hit in the air and crashed.

Never knew about this before! Great video!

After watching your last video and learning about this I was very interested to know more! It’s like you know what we want to see!

The Italian planes are just beautiful!

This isn't completely accurate. The Brits didn't like getting into a dogfight with a CR.42 because of how nimble they were and the skill of the pilots flying them. The pilots flying all the varied types in the African theatre were also known to be absolutely fearless against overwhelming odds of success.

@elliskaranikolaou2550

4 жыл бұрын

Very true.

@rocknral

4 жыл бұрын

Well at least 3 hurricane pilots didn't mind. "I say old boy, what do you call those 2 winged contraptions?" "Target practice"

@gwtpictgwtpict4214

4 жыл бұрын

The RAF learned very quickly not to dogfight a CR42 in a Hurricane or Spitfire because the CR42 could turn better. Rather you used superior speed to 'Boom and zoom' ie gain altitude then dive to make a firing pass, then climb for altitude, then do it again.

Another fascinating fact Mark. Thanks for sharing!

A WWII story I did not know. Thanks. Great job.

Fascinating. I heard of these raids but knew almost nothing about them.

The crew of the two Br 20’s that “simply “ bailed out, bailed out because of the lack of fuel-which you failed to mention. It was not uncommon for axis aircraft to be lost over England at this time and the crews being forced to ditch there aircraft. I detect some biased. The Italian biplane fighter the CR 42 proved itself quite capable over Malta in 1940 and East Africa. The ace of aces during the East African campaign was Mario Visintini flew a CR 42 Falco w had a number of Hawker Hurricane to his credit along with a slew of other aircraft. British Air Marshal Maynard often berated RAF fighter pilots for shying away from tangling with the nimble Italian fighter

@jasonmussett2129

4 жыл бұрын

I've learned quite a lot today. Thanks guys!

@feetgoaroundfullflapsC

4 жыл бұрын

italian Ace of Aces shot down 765 allied airplanes, 46 aircraft carriers and 84 battleships.. All in one day. And Columbus discovered India too. Dont forgetta.. They are a dam Bunch of liars..

Idk if anyones ever told you but the theme song for this series is absolutely amazing. Please never change it. It excites me every time.

Great video as always mark 👍

"Squadron Leader George Denholm, CO 603 Squadron, described the combat: The Italians looked quite toy-like in their brightly-coloured camouflage, and I remember thinking that it seemed almost a shame to shoot down such pretty machines. I must have been wrong, for the pilot who saw six going down at the same time said afterwards that it was a glorious sight. But I must say this about the Eye-ties: they showed fight in a way the Germans have never done with our squadron. " Interesting Book on the subject is The Chianti Raiders: The Extraordinary Story of the Italian Air Force in the Battle of Britain. Some records have claimed British aircraft shot down. "Between October, 1940, and January, 1941, Italian fighters based in Belgium flew 454 offensive and 480 defensive sorties (including 113 offensive sorties detailed in the foregoing table). Thereafter until April, 1941. two squadrons remaining in Belgium flew a further 662 sorties, all defensive. Apart from the action over Harwich on November 11th the only fully authenticated encounter between British and Italian fighters occurred 01 the 23rd of that month, when 29 Italian fighters making an offensive sweep were engaged near the South Foreland and lost two aircraft. Pilots concerned claimed the destruction of at least five British fighters." Brits of the time showed the Italian pilots in their CR42's plenty of respect because they knew they could be dangerous. Over Malta they even brought down Hurricanes. "A week later, a dozen CR.42s from 23° Gruppo appeared in the sky over Malta for a reconnaissance. Flight Lieutenants Peter Keeble and Burges scrambled to intercept them, and the resulting action greatly impressed the Malta defenders with the CR.42's maneuvering capability. Keeble attacked one CR.42 - probably the aircraft (MM4368) flown by Sottotenente Mario Benedetti of 74a Squadriglia that crashed, killing its pilot, but then came under attack himself by the Falchi of Tenente Mario Pinna and Tenente Oscar Abello. Keeble tried to dogfight with the Italians, but his engine was hit and his Hurricane dived into the ground at Wied-il-Ghajn, near Fort Rinella, and blew up; he was the first pilot to be killed in action at Malta." Thanks for posting video.

@feetgoaroundfullflapsC

4 жыл бұрын

You posted; "Pilots concerned (italians) claimed the destruction of at least five British fighters." that number of sorties and planes shot by the Italians are just huge lies. Italian press put them as winners of the battles at all times, and no losses at all. Liars...

"Higly beneficial to the allias"... I was near suffucating from my pizza when I heard it... you are a joker, Mark! Well done!

I live in Ramsgate - I honestly didn't know this part of the BoB story, thanks Mark!

Awesome, thanks Mark.

This is very interesting as it is not well known that the Italian Air Force ever attacked Britain. A pretty persistent albeit brief lived effort. Sounds like a strategic error, but a very enlightening video

Dr Felton I believe this is the funniest video I've ever seen on Mussolini's Italy war "effort". Starting off they used Fiat made bombers known for being temperamental, the air crews we're ill-prepared and trained. At least they made great stylish uniforms. Lol

@jaroslavpalecek4513

4 жыл бұрын

You know Italians were always used to fight in style and luxory. They had female officers for male officers. And some Italian general said that he likes war very much. The reason was that he could looking forward to his portion of great pasta every day.

@thecommentaryking

4 жыл бұрын

Your comment = ignorance

@starkraven7362

4 жыл бұрын

@@thecommentaryking sez the self.appointed fusspot

First time I heard of this. Great channel!

Fascinating stuff Mark.

It seems as if Italy did everything they could to exit the war as fast as possible. lol 😂 Great video Dr Felton!!

@DieterRahm1845

4 жыл бұрын

Or to prevent Germany from winning the war🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

Test flown by the RAF....the Italians heard them laughing at their Belgian airbase. Good job Dr. Felton.

@KVDC2008

4 жыл бұрын

Test flying the Italian bi-plane was just insult to injury. Let's just say the Brit didn't learn any technological secrets from the plane...except the fact that it was inferior.

@brainyskeletonofdoom7824

4 жыл бұрын

@@KVDC2008 It was still better than the Gladiator...

@mebsrea

4 жыл бұрын

KVDC2008 It’s generally considered the best biplane fighter ever. That just ceased to be a very useful distinction after about 1940.

Another excellent video!

Thanks! You really cover some little-known areas.

I keep watching this one. It just blows my mind, I had no clue

It's 2.45 AM, and I see a notification from Mark Felton of another video. Under 500 views in 4 minutes. Oh Baby, I'm in, sleep can wait!. Yeah, I know that the YT metrics are suss, but I got excited.

Thank you Mark.

Thank you Mark 👍

where do u get all of your information i love all of your content just wondering did you go to school in history or what

@doogleticker5183

4 жыл бұрын

Ummmm...he is an historian...books available on Amazon.

@chrisneedham5803

4 жыл бұрын

Mark Felton invented history......... there's probably a book about him on sale

@lafeeshmeister

4 жыл бұрын

felton is the real deal, yeah

Haven't heard much about Italy, this should be interesting.

@camillomancini5619

4 жыл бұрын

@@bobsemple7660 so true 🤣

@Alvi410

4 жыл бұрын

George Pearson Except when they actually manage to do shit. Like disabling two battleship with six men. Or the engagements they won with the soviets in the east. And the retreat after the entire collapse they made managing to break out of an encirclement. . . On foot . . . During winter . . . With no mechanized components and lacking heavy weaponry. Of the role they played in every single victory of rommel in africa. Usually overlooked but fundamental since you know. Whitout them the Afrika Korps wouldn’t even have a front from wich manouver, to say the basic. Yes the Italians did not perform well and jokes are fun. But hell. There are quite the interesting istances in wich they actually do shit.

@blueeyeswhitedragon9839

4 жыл бұрын

@@bobsemple7660 :- Not if you were being killed, tortured, or gassed by Italian forces.

@thecommentaryking

4 жыл бұрын

@@bobsemple7660 It's more humorous that peoples like you has brains

@hertzair1186

4 жыл бұрын

Hunny Fox : because Italy didn’t do anything during WW-2...Germany had to do all their fighting

Thank you Mark for yet another interesting video. It was certainly news to me that the Italians were involved in the Battle of Britain. My father was a regular soldier, he joined the Royal Artillery in 1917 and was part of the B.E.F. After his return from Dunkirk he was posted to the Middle East via India. In your extensive research have you found any information about a false front in the Middle East. My father said that he was involved with Operation Bertram. I have found very little about this operation online and hope that there is a chance that you are able to feature this on youtube in future.

Love to see that he expanded upon that little bit about the Italian aircraft in the RAFwaffe video!

This is the first time Olive Garden tried express long range delivery

@1981menso

4 жыл бұрын

As a person of Italian decent I am offended that you equate that swill to Italian food!

@thecommentaryking

4 жыл бұрын

Olive Garden is not even Italian

The Italians also used the Fiat G.50 monoplane fighter over SE England.

Love your use of present day maps with the motorway network and bypasses around major towns

this one i was surprised..i had no idea whatsoever. thank you!