Mr McMahon at 25:01 speaks with great wisdom and compassion. Can you imagine the same thing happening to you at his age and yet he handles the situation with grace and a complete lack of self-pity. Only that there were more like him.

@kevinmcmenamin260

4 жыл бұрын

Why you only have 2 likes is beyond me !! You encapsulate the cure by referring readers to him. His words and attitude could 'cure' ills & thoughts of retaliation, in so many similarly based revenge attacks anywhere in our world! I'm glad of your comments anyway.

@danruinsfood4002

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah this was a good interview.

That old man being interviewed is one of the real heroes of NI.

@johnd2058

4 жыл бұрын

26:30 -- Right on. I've got Irish ancestry and Catholic faith, but I'll take living & working with the Calvinists I've known over a gang of murderous thugs.

Thank you for this clip!.

god bless that old man,,!! he talk wise !!!!

the young woman who speaks around 20 minutes in is an angel. that's our norn iron and that's our soul x

This is amazing footage. That elderly man was an angel.

Great channel, great contribution, it's a great reminder of what we do not want to see happen ever again. We should not and will not forgot the past but we will never move forward by focusing on the wrongs of the past. As one man said in this film , Education and Integration is the only solution. There are many fantastic people both Catholic and Protestant in Belfast, now is their time to be heard.

the girl in that video talked more sense than all are politicians ever did in this country

I'm an American and therefore anything I say on this subject would sound unforgivably ignorant. However, I must say that Ireland is full of brave men and women who deserve peace. My heart is with you.

@PS-ru2ov

Жыл бұрын

It's Northern Ireland not Ireland 🙄

@irishmade8136

Жыл бұрын

@@PS-ru2ov Soon to be Ireland. Watch this space🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪

great video, thanks

War is old men sending young men to die. Incredible video. Thanks.

@disobeytoday4685

3 жыл бұрын

Rich men sending poor men

The interviewee's are surprisingly calm and articulate.

Yeah, i've looked into the Stevens Inquiry before, thanks for the suggestion though. I've began to watch the Panorama documentary about it tonight, however as far as im aware it is in several parts, so it might take a while to get into an entire evaluation of it.

My heart goes out to the woman at 19:40

Can't get any sound 😥😥 and going by the comments here, it looks like this would've been a good documentary to watch.

@wheechie

3 жыл бұрын

The audio starts from 16:39 👍

See I work in public relations and my intentions are to get you the publicity you so deserve. So thanks for your generous offer and all. I will be in Derry in the coming weeks and a wee visit to a couple of agencies combined with a few hundred press releases in every news paper in the land and in Poland suits me far better. Would nt you concur that is a far better strategy..And certainly no joke.

800 years of this hatred. If neither is obviously going to triumph over the other then it's time to learn to live with one another in peace. There is NO other way. For those who have lived a lifetime in bitterness and hatred, has it become your wish to condemn future generations of Irish to live such a depressing life as well?

most interesting post,thank you

As usual - more sense spoken by ordinary people than all the politicians and activists put together

@orangejoe204

6 жыл бұрын

"When we were in Ballymurphy, we had those people really fed up with us; terrified, really. After every shooting we'd order 1,500 house searches. 1,500. Skiing or mountain climbing has got nothing on a cordon and search when you're kicking old Snodgrass out of bed at 4 in the morning and going through his house. It really makes people think." -remembrances of a 2 PARA Cpl. Civilians are a different matter, but I'm hard pressed to find a more destabilizing, harmful and biased actor in the entire fiasco of the Troubles than the Parachute Regiments. They created nothing but new IRA members and Catholic civilian corpses wherever they went, and were a drastic net negative for the cause they hamfistedly attempted to intervene for.

@francisboyle3271

6 жыл бұрын

+Alex Tocqueville. the PARAS were the cause of one of the largest recruitment drives for the IRA after they slaughtered unarmed men and boys in the Bog side. TAL32

@orangejoe204

6 жыл бұрын

Aye

I love belfast

was a 1 year old back then, but lived up on the north coast , bushmills ,!

The old boy 27 mins into the video I'm guessing his very first words in his life were "Don't ya know" lol.

@arfer

8 жыл бұрын

+John Maddin He's got the right idea though.....don't you know?

@DavidHughesEire

8 жыл бұрын

+John Maddin He speaks probably the most sense out of everyone, in between all the "don't ya knows"! He had a very modern viewpoint for the time, very progressive. He had the right idea, and if more people had have thought the same way he did back then, maybe the "troubles" wouldn't have dragged on for so long, don't ya know? ;) Respect from Davey

At 20:52 she says it will go on until it becomes at battleground and that's exactly what happened.

@JacobSnell1998

8 жыл бұрын

Truth & Justice Really, when 50,000 people die in a period of a mere 30 years that is a full on war, not an occasional occurrence of violence. And, I had visited many times during the Troubles, I'm not even old enough to have been there in the early years but in the early 90's it was terrible still. Bombings, Rocks being thrown daily, people being shot dead in the streets. I was even there during September of 2001 when I saw pre-school girls from Holy Cross crying and running away from a bunch of Protestant scum who were throwing rocks at them.

@JacobSnell1998

8 жыл бұрын

Truth & Justice I did not delete it. And I re-read my comment, I meant to write when 50,000 are injured, not killed. So what I meant to say when 50,000 are injured, in thirty years that is a war. And you are not really going to believe it was really only 3,600 that were killed are you? The PIRA killed well over 5000 alone.

@JacobSnell1998

8 жыл бұрын

1) No need to get snappy with me. 2) Like I said, I meant to say 50,000 were injured, which is a fact. 3) The 3600 didn't count in many deaths that occurred because of Irish Republic terrorists groups. 4) No, I was born in the US and then at 17 I left for seminary to become a priest, and moved to France where the SSPX had accepted me. After a year, I left, moved to England and began working for a priest along with a nun. He many times sent me to Ireland on business and I spend much time in the Irish Republic but did many times have to work in Northern Ireland (mainly Belfast and Dungannon). During the time I would serve the faithful there, Protestants would see my cassock and throw food at me. The tension was horrible, and many times I saw acts of violence.

@JacobSnell1998

7 жыл бұрын

tinman749 God bless you.

@JacobSnell1998

7 жыл бұрын

Seamus666Seamus I don't listen to people who have the number of the beast in their profile name.

People were more articulated back then despite lacking internet, tweeter and social media

what they say makes a lot of sense in retrospect

@flute4hire Thank you.

@thomasgangsta in 1960s the Irish Army couldn't fight anything as they were so run down,basically a spent force, the Loyalist would run rings round them in no time ! RUC overwhelmed, it would have been slaughter on the scale of Bosnia, that was prevented by the British Army.

My bad lancer my reply had been meant for the educated LordWellington15. peace to you Mo Chara.

Just listen to this women speak at or around the 19:35 mark... & that's exactly what happened it turned into a battle ground...

@johnd2058

4 жыл бұрын

The old folks seem to have come to some accord. As far as I've seen, the fighters in the Troubles were a pretty youthful bunch.

Séamus Mallon said in 1998 that the Good Friday Agreement is Sunningdale for slow learners and yet it seems that Sunningdale was a treaty for slow learners even then based on what most people on this clip said. Even in 1969 the people wanted an intergrated education system and the removal of ghettos with integrated housing. How sad that it's taken until now to even start gaining those objectives. Why did it take so long? We must all be so thick!

1969 to 2013 and sadly history seems to be repeating itself.

I love reading the comments here. No surrender.

Yes those "pissed the bed" comments are really savage!!! Do you think he got them from reading "Tolien"?

these poor people didn't have a clue what was about to happen for the next 30 odd years with over 3000 people losing their lifes and countless injured.

@RobertK1993

8 жыл бұрын

+stuart parkinson They knew was going to last a long time in fact in still ongoing it just died down.

@stuartparkinson4998

8 жыл бұрын

These civilians, only thought it would last afew years. We don't hear what's going on, here in England, its kept quiet.

@RobertK1993

8 жыл бұрын

stuart parkinson Not during the troubles anyway 1969-1999 it was headlines in England IRA started bombing in N.I in 69 followed by the loyalist UVF and UDA basically if IRA bomb Protestant area UVF would bomb Catholic area went on and on it wasn't until 72 that IRA bombed England.

@davidcoultous2790

7 жыл бұрын

The 'IRA' bombings in '69 were in fact UVF false flag bombings. The UVF (formed in '66) sought to discredit the civil rights movement, and end the reforms being made by the O'Neil administration, by leading people to believe the IRA was carrying out a bombing campaign, and that this was all part and parcel of what was happening in the late 60s. The bombings weakened O'Neill to the point where he was forced to resign. The bombings convinced the unionist/loyalist community that they were facing an IRA insurrection (they already believed the civil rights movement was a Republican Trojan Horse). This was a major factor in the vehemence of the Aug 69 Belfast riots when loyalist mobs burned out entire Catholic streets, and thousands of people were displaced from their homes. It was in response to this violence that the IRA remobilised, with the more militant members splitting off to form the Provisional IRA in Dec 69, to take a more 'proactive' role in events. They started 'defensive' operations in early '70, moving to a full insurrection against the security forces by '71. The UDA formed in response to the upswing in Republican violence. (The UVF had formed in 66 after Easter Rising 50th anniversary celebrations convinced them a Republican campaign was on its way).

I think we got our wires crossed. I know you didn't say every Catholic was a liar, Jim Spriggs did, which is whom I was responding to when I got a reply from you :)

Great comment m8.

he spoke about the best sense of the whole lot,been a few more like him running things and a few less of likes of Adams and Paisley,itd all have been sorted decades before it was..sadly he will have died never seeing peace again

Clint Eastwood at 34:49

@finglaspete

7 жыл бұрын

Definitely, must have been when he got involved in politics!

No sound😢

Are there any books that outline exactly what occurred in Belfast in August 1969. What mob or culprits were involved. Arrests or identities seem to evade the history books as to who exactly burnt who out of their homes

@Drifty40

Жыл бұрын

No arrests either.....for... The protestant families burned out of their homes in Thistle Court, Duncairn Gardens or Farringdon Gardens.......nor for the protestant families ethnically cleansed from the border counties in the 80s......or the 40,000 protestants forced out of Ireland in the space of 3 years after partition.

I agree with a lot of what this young fella and girl are saying at the beginning. But, can someone show me any footage of the actual assault on Bombay Street? Even in 1969, if a whole street was being burnt out, then the tv cameras would have been on hand. I have seen footage of people leaving houses unhindered. But then that could have been any street in Belfast. Protestant or Catholic. Correct me if I'm wrong, but was Bombay Street the only street to have been attacked by 'The Other Side'?

This is Springfield Road Belfast

"one of their worst crimes was denying the catholic minority one man one vote." You make it sound as if catholics didn't have the right to vote which is just bollox... this video is great...getting to see all the old streets in the Clonard/Cupar/Shankill area is fascinating....been straining my eyes to try and recognise some of the street signs but no joy...anyone have a better insight into the actual street names???

@texpeare cheers

My Da there at 34:30 being interviewed. Holy feck!

@markyinbelfastxx9088

4 жыл бұрын

He said well

Awck I know pal..Hurts a wee bit now that you realise you are light years behind us.

if eire released itself from its papist shackles i think you would find a lot more of the people in the north may be sympathetic to some sort of unification

True but gullibility is no reason to hate people.

Were they really ruled with an iron fist from Westminster before everything got out of hand ? I don't think so.

I can't watch it. Too many bad memories.

@blenderocean

9 ай бұрын

They were correct, that extremism with the lack of direction from the British government made the place a war zone. The UK government wasn't really going to make the place equal, it was in the interest of the history of occupation. Now the protestants are British or cling onto that identity.

Blonde guy near the end has it squared off. Talking like that in 1969??! Smart. Must be a stickie.

@afulle02

7 жыл бұрын

arfer -G'day. Just wondering. What's a stickie?

28:32 "Get out of the way kid, we are filming" lol Hope you all can live in peace .

What is the "catholics eiother"?? is it one of their religious ceremonies?

Hey kid that's identical to a Mickroach remark made to me in February, but then you'd know that as you said you'd been through all his posts to me!!!.

Thanks for that suggestion, but im well aware of Northern Ireland's history, i come from there and have studied the politics of Northern Ireland at degree level. My point was not, what have the people of Northern Ireland done to ensure that they have equal rights, it is - If they are such a mighty people, why would they be in such a position where they need to ensure they have equal rights?

Bullseye ! perfect analogy, bro, curiously the same thing is happening in palestine...

wow, that girl...

No way to talk about General ! He'll get you back, he'll be saying terrible things like you piss the bed and that REALLY hurts!!

Ah semantics, if that's really all you have left to resort to, that speaks volumes Jimmy Nobrains :)

Got it in one, the Paisley influence. He is the one who was to blame for the troubles lasting so long. Both sides said as much in these interviews."Its the extremist element."

People that support the institution give it steam, life and existence.

I feel sorry for the children.

Ps, It's just a report though, and not an actual full public inquiry, so some of the evidence given cannot be verified as being 100% reliable. The whole sentiment throughout my messages however was denounce those who had supported paramilitary groups on the messageboard for this video link. I would argue against anyone who supported the IRA, as sometimes they killed innocent civilians, just as i'd argue against the UDA, UVF etc.

See if your aul fella said "Don't ya know?" one more time...... lol

Doesn't mean we'll surrender.

@Beirutien Where does that leaves the Protestant who were born in NI, they didn't choose where they were born, its their home as much as it is the Catholics ?

No one was disputing how the troubles started, or that the Northern Irish government was corrupt at the time, hence why it was dissolved. I don't think that you can reasonably compare Martin Luther King to Republican paramilitaries though, as far as i knew, Martin Luther King was led peaceful protests, and that's part of the reason why he is held in such high regard to this day?

these people are the real irish, isnt it a pity that their mentality and spirit is a thing of the past

No Surrender!!! To what exactly?

@rapartist43 Can you show me evidence about the last you wrote in this comment? The one saying that the Brits where arresting loyalists as well? Yes the Catholics welcomed the brits at first but then the brits showed why they really came to the North. And by the way. What did Nelson do for the Irish? I can´t see any sence at all why the UVF have behaved like they have. It´s called secterianism and it´s from the Protestant side of it all.

Sorry freakette; going around in circles is not my style. I ve made my point, you ve made yours..So be it.

In what way are they worse than terrorists, how could that ever be seen as being 'fact'? Surely it's easier to hold the British Army accountable for their actions than the paramilitaries which operate without their face on show. If you look at the statistics, in Northern Ireland the IRA killed more people than any other paramilitary force or the British Army, so by what yardstick do you use when measuring the severity of 'terrorists'?

Those people are gullible, not evil like the the institution itself.

Aye.

Do you think the Scots will go for independence?? England has little strategic interest in the North... but we have to try and live with respect and decency towards neighbours. Would some good manners and tolerance go part of the way??

1969 and they have a HOPELESS mountain of shit ahead of them to deal with. Doesn't bear thinking about.

General Cromwell !

Tell that to the infallible Roman pontiff who donated Ireland to England in 1179. Word up. "England" is NOT in Ireland. Northern Ireland is part of a UNION with the UK, much like the ROI is in "UNION" with the EU.

Awck aye, The Roman / Irish enclave connecting to Ardoyne- Hooker St, directly across the road from Disraeli st- Hooker st. been gone now for years. One of the first streets in Belfast to have the lovely "peace wall" in between. You could say the streets across the Crumlin road were no more than a stones throw away from each other..So if you consider that "deep loyalist section" I am beginning to think YOU re the one who is not from here.

Wrong M8

what do you mean....no retreat and no surrender????

politicians split the people. One man one vote etc.

@skoi87 the UDA was not formed till the 70s the UVF was the first active Loyalist Paramilitary organisation. The first recorded Loyalist 'hit' was McGircs bar .. I think you may have your fact muddled a little. To be honest bickering like this on who did what when is not progresive. we should be looking at what we have in common not what we dont. Common ground and shared values is what brings peace.

Ah ha..I doubt it.

Well said Martain Luther King was 100% peaceful like Gandi.

My cousin was killed by mistake I believe in Stockmans lane in Anderstown Belfast Aug 31 .1971. Unarmed but Sgt was and round went thru his flak jacket. Day after 18th birthday. Been over 1 day. No one claimed responsibility. Why.. Fired from Oewhvannagh gardens. Ok if he didn't mean to kill him but least have the honour to say you shot. One thing I can't understand and I am all for a united Ireland. Ripped family to bits. I was only 6 so it's a blur. Won't someone come forward and say it was them.. They must be in 60s now with grandkids of own so must understand the need to know. Not name just the organisation cos I.r.a didn't claim... Come on you had honour too as soldiers.....

I love the way that people try to claim the moral highground and then actively show their support to paramilitary groups such as the IRA, UDA, UFF, UVA etc. If you're protesting against people getting killed, don't show your support for these groups.

Do you mean English surname????

That's funny, Mickroach (son of a coward) wrote exactly the same!

23 minz that woman talks alot off sence #live in peace

That s because they learned those things from their Roman / NOT Irish masters. That s the Roman -Irish way. Deny, counter charge and cry havoc.

this war in ireland is for the indenpdence for our nation from the british, its not the same as going to war in afganistan for gas and invading iraq for oil. So there are those wars that are justified and those that are not. TIOCFAIDH AR LA.

Here s a wee cyber hanky away and dry you tears.

The protestants didnt have those rights eather.

I was differentiating between hating the institution and hating ordinary church goers. One is common sense, the other is bigotry :)

TIOCFAIDH AR LA

@quagmire77

5 жыл бұрын

Send location

@oisincoulter6538

4 жыл бұрын

fuck off gobshite

@oisincoulter6538

4 жыл бұрын

@@Edvard.Munchkin I was talking to quagmire . FUCK THE QUEEN

@MarkyMarkDCU Yeah i heard about that. Seems to be only the Sinn Fein website or vastly Republican websites which present the information though. Perhaps if there were some well sourced evidence to back that theory up it may be more widely believed.

dont u know...

To dynamitesout, I live in a Manchester thats a lot closer to NI than NH! And If a bomb ripped your city apart, as it did mine not so many years ago...im pretty sure you would have a different opinion on the situation...although im also pretty sure that would never happen in sleepy NH! And just for the record Im from a proud Irish catholic family living very happily in Manchester, England....And the sad reality for you my friend is this...you really hav`nt got a clue what its all about. Sad

Aye, ah ha whatever you say Mr Foley, is that an English sir name?