When doing sound comparisons you shouldn’t go based solely on knob position. Just changed controls until it sounds identical. Parts tolerance and aging play effect

@knobsswitches

7 күн бұрын

i know and i did. but for the start and orientation i tried similar positions

@audiouy331

Күн бұрын

my thoughts exactly

@kevinellis4729

Күн бұрын

What you mean that comparison that @SpectreSoundStudios did on the Klark Teknik vs Pultec was bogus? Crazy pants talk! That was one of the funniest 'comparisons' I've ever seen. KT isn't even saying it's a clone. Knobs in same position. Does it sound the same? TRASH!!

Very detailed comparison. Well done, mate!

@knobsswitches

Ай бұрын

Thanks a lot, Marcus!

Great video Dirk. You really give a clear demonstration of the differences and the similarities. It’s sounds great!

@knobsswitches

Ай бұрын

Thank you very much. I´m flattered

Nice ! 👍🏻 The sound of this synth and your style reminded me of Grauzone Band ! Thanks for sharing

@LlewynDaviesTheThird

Ай бұрын

Well he did play eisbar

@mauriciomandara5946

Ай бұрын

@@LlewynDaviesTheThird… I believe they used a Promars… the original SH 5 sounded closer

Hey Dirk! I loved this - such amazing music in your sound examples section!

@knobsswitches

Ай бұрын

Thank you very much!

Very good review and comparison! I worked on the MS-5 prototype until Covid shut my workshop down. The MS-5 does use modern capacitors in the filters (ceramic rater than mylar) which can explain some of the differences. The Ring Mod sounds like it needs recalibrating. I will be releasing a set of 200 vintage patches for the MS-5 soon...

@TheDavidPoole

24 күн бұрын

Thank you for your amazing work bringing not only this, but a whole load of vintage synths and modules back to life. You, Sir, are suberb!

@xntricity6446

3 күн бұрын

Curious, when you say recalibrate, do you mean his Synth should be opened up for a calibration process, thanks

@amsynths

3 сағат бұрын

@@xntricity6446its easy to check if the ring mod needs some trimming. Flip the X input to ext in, with no signal. Put the Y input to the LFO sine wave. If there is any leakage of the sine wave into the ring mod output then it needs trimming. Hope that helps

First visit to your channel, I must compliment your intro music, it's a banger!

@knobsswitches

Ай бұрын

Thank you very much. I´m flattered!

I've subscribed to your channel as soon as I saw your Chris&Cosey t-shirt! Respect! 💙🤟💙

@knobsswitches

Ай бұрын

thanks a lot. together with Techno Primitiv is Songs of Love & Lust my favorit C&C Album

@theendofeternity4324

Ай бұрын

@@knobsswitches great job with your demo...sorry I forgot to wrote that! I love their LIbrary of Sound series!

Wow! These are both amazing synthesizers. There are some significant differences, but none that would deter me from buying the MS-5. Thank you for this comparison video, one of the best I have seen.

@knobsswitches

Ай бұрын

Thank you very much. It was a lot of fun

That was a well made comparison. Subscribed immediately.

@knobsswitches

Ай бұрын

Dankeschön!

GRAUZONE!!!!!!!! Well done, sir. (Cheers from Dallas, Texas!)

@knobsswitches

Ай бұрын

Cheers from Düsseldorf, NRW

Calibrating the filters can be found on the underside of the synth. You don't need to open it up to access. Just push the synth section to be upright and you'll see a bunch of screw access holes on the panel. Seems there are 24 adjustment options, so maybe some of the characteristics differences can be honed to be more similar with some tweaking.

@xntricity6446

3 күн бұрын

Do you mean on the behringer right?

@lesterfalcon1350

3 күн бұрын

@@xntricity6446 Yes. I have the Behringer Mono/Poly, which is in the same format. It has 25 adjustment screws with easy access holes. If you look of the Thomann site, you can see a picture of the underside of the synth section. And see the holes.

Great comparison video. I do hear the difference. The SH-5 has a lot more bite and grittier than the MS-5. It won't stop me from buying the MS-5. It will definitely join my Behringer collection of synths.

@knobsswitches

Ай бұрын

Yes, the ms5 convinced me more than the mono/poly. and the mono/poly was already good

@dannydaniel8975

Ай бұрын

If someone can get away with recording an entire album on the original Mbox, Marshall MXL mic, and the stock sounds from FL Studio 5 (and they did) and sell 10 million records, then no one will notice the difference between the Roland and the Behringer...

I am devastated by the lack of Tolex.

@knobsswitches

21 күн бұрын

Yep, more Tolex would be cool!

Great work.

@knobsswitches

3 күн бұрын

@@regplasma7906 thanks a lot

Toller Vergleich. Danke.

@knobsswitches

Ай бұрын

Prima. Lieben Dank!

Schönes Video! Eisbär geht immer :D Der Behringer klingt bissl anders aber immer noch sehr geil. Grad auch für EBM sehr nutzbar.

Thanks - this made me get my Roland SH-3A out for a jam.

@knobsswitches

Ай бұрын

My pleasure! It´s an exciting synth, too!

very nice video!

@knobsswitches

Ай бұрын

thanks a lot!

Sounds amazing!

@knobsswitches

Ай бұрын

I´m flattered!

Nice job!

@knobsswitches

Ай бұрын

Thanks a lot!

sounds bloomin good

@knobsswitches

25 күн бұрын

Yes, it’s a good synthesizer (both)!

Glad to have an SH-5. The MS is fine if you just need a monosynth but it doesn’t have anywhere near the character of the OG Roland

Nice demo. Thanks. I'm hoping they release a module only version as that would pair nice with my Roland System 100 101 keyboard

also the band pass filter section is the perfect example of the thing i can’t put my finger on with all behringer clones. You can clearly hear this difference in power depth and warmth when you try to get those tight envelopes the behringer just sounds thin in that area and i feel that with all the clones so far. they’re sooooo close tho

Sawtooth on the roland is splashy, but what do you expect, it's 50. Great content!

@knobsswitches

Ай бұрын

Thanks a lot!

Awesome stuff1 Seems like the MS-5 certainly is in the same ballpark. Personally I don't care if the same settings result in slightly different sounds, the more important thing is that they can sound similar, whatever the settings of the knobs are. So I'll settle for the MS-5 for 599, as trying to get a real SH-5 is near impossible and the prices are astronomical. I also like the small form of the MS-5 better. Lovd the tunes you made too.. some really nice stuff there!

@ralphhathaway-coley5460

Ай бұрын

To be fair the same settings on several original SH05s also sound different so ..........

@miffebarbez

Ай бұрын

I think the original sounded better in every sound.

@knobsswitches

Ай бұрын

@payt01 I see it exactly the same way

Thank you sir! 😊

@knobsswitches

Ай бұрын

I´s my pleasure!

Super Vergleich! Danke für die Mühe. Ich habe den MS-5 selbst privat bei einem Freund mit seinem SH-5 verglichen und das deckt sich mit meinen Eindrücken.

@knobsswitches

Ай бұрын

Danke! und Danke für den Tip mit dem GATE Out in Trigger in um den AR anzuschieben ;-)

What a beauty!

@knobsswitches

21 күн бұрын

The Original or the MS5? ;-)

Gut gemacht! Für mich klingt der Behringer ähnlich genug. I've had an interest in the SH-5 for a LONG time. This might scratch that itch close enough.

from the first words I understand that I listening a Deutscher Profi, very good comparison, thank you for this! But just one thing, a little advice - you need to reduce the music or volume up the voice sound, um die Gesamtlautstärke des gesamten Videos anzugleichen, weil du deine Nachbarn nachts wecken kannst)

@knobsswitches

Ай бұрын

yes, i know. The Intro Song was too loud. I will pay attention to it in the next video ;-)

I have a distinct and WONDERFUL advantage over you, Sir: OLD, sort of defective EARS. RESULT: the TWO sound SPOT ON IDENTICAL. WOW! What VALUE FOR MONEY!!

Yo I love your chris and cosey shirt!!

@knobsswitches

Ай бұрын

thanks a lot!

Sounds great 🖐 What are you using to secure your guitar pedals next to your synths like that ? very cool ❤

@Steph_7d7

4 күн бұрын

It's just a sheet music stand but it works great.

Obviously too much to ask for a comparison video but it would be interesting to see if tweaking the trim pots on the back of the synth could get you closer to the tolerances on pots on the front of the one you currently have.

Amazing music !!!!

@knobsswitches

7 күн бұрын

Thanks a lot!

Love what’s going on at around 7:30

@knobsswitches

21 күн бұрын

Thanks a lot!

Interesting comparison. Do both VCF have the same slope? It appears as if the SH5 has a less steep slope.

@knobsswitches

21 күн бұрын

As always, there is no information on the Behringer website other than the Quick Manual. Both Synths should actually have a 24db multimode filter

Der Sound ist einfach besonders👍

@knobsswitches

21 күн бұрын

Ja, ist wirklich eigen und bei keinem anderen Roland zu finden

I sold my SH5 in 1994 for $650 Australian dollars, hanging for the MS5 to hit our shores. Great video.

@knobsswitches

Ай бұрын

Thank you very much

@arthurcrime

Ай бұрын

Have seen how much they go for now?

@knobsswitches

Ай бұрын

@@arthurcrime yes, on reverb was one in Canada and one in Australia . Both over 6000€ plus tax, if I order in Germany :-(

Due age of components it is imposible to compare two apples =D but the sh-5 sounds near the ms-5,...Thanks

I was surprised how different they sound.

Okay! Der erste Behringer Clone, der mich flasht. Fazit nach 57:10: Etwas entflasht aufgrund des hier und da schwächelnden Multimodefilters und leichten Abstrichen hier und da im Lowend. Wirkt generell etwas neutraler/steriler im Gesamtsound und in der Performance weniger smooth - zumindest mein erster Eindruck nach diesem Test. Den passenden Rotz in den Sound reinzukriegen, dürfte aber bei den aktuellen Gegebenheiten im Studio kein Problem darstellen. Man wird mit dem Synth genau dahin kommen, wo man hin will. Mal gucken, ob ich mir den nicht sogar noch zulegen werde.

@knobsswitches

Ай бұрын

War für mich auch nach dem Monopoly der zweite. Der UB-X hat mich z.b. nicht interessiert;-)

@user-wg6mt3se1n

Ай бұрын

try poly-d ;)

@wellenstrom

Ай бұрын

@@knobsswitches Kompliment übrigens für den Test. Vermutlich der erste hier auf YT und dann geht der auch noch voll in die Tiefe. Gute Arbeit!

@knobsswitches

Ай бұрын

@@wellenstrom lieben dank. Ich habe Rob Keeble eine Mail geschrieben, ob er sich das mit dem Multimodefilter erklären kann. Vielleicht lässt sich das nachkalibrieren

Way to blow my speakers at the start, dude.

@fiddlestickzmuzik

Ай бұрын

I know right I had to reach for the volume knob on my interface really quickly..

@knobsswitches

Ай бұрын

yes, sorry guys. that was probably a bit to much gain ;-)

Hast du den von Thomann? Geil dann kommt meiner auch bald? Super Video! Wirst du dein original nun verkaufen?

@knobsswitches

21 күн бұрын

Ja, meinen habe ich bei Thomann bestellt. Das Original ist nicht meiner, daher werde ich ihn nicht verkaufen ;-)

Very interesting, thank you The MS-5 sounded very good and much like the SH-5 on some sounds. On others, it really just did not sound as good

How did you manage to buy one of these already? They have not been available on Thomann as far as I know. Unless there were a sneaky few there at the start 🤣🤣 Great review!

@knobsswitches

Ай бұрын

Thanks a lot. I ordered it online from Thomann on 04.04

@mbrombert

Ай бұрын

@@knobsswitches Ha! Nice one. All the best to you!

@knobsswitches

Ай бұрын

@@mbrombert for you too!

Behringer is a great company.

ITS ALWAYS THE ENVELOPES!!

5:10 Ich möchte ein eisbär sein, am kalten polar 😂😂😂 zu geil

@knobsswitches

Ай бұрын

Das hat sich irgendwie so ergeben ;-)

Great demo but here's a tip: Weak sync works when VCO1 is set to a higher pitch than VCO2 - as opposed to Hard sync. A lot of unique pitch effects emerge from soft sync instead of just clicking.

@knobsswitches

Ай бұрын

Cool. Thanks for the Tip. I will defintly try this

I have the Behringer MonoPoly, which shares the same keyboard as the MS-5 and the Poly D. Man it's heavy! It was just too big and cumbersome for my set up. So I removed the synth half from the Keyboard and case. It's a shame the MS-5 didn't move features like the portamento from besides the keyboard to the Synth section. These two would have gone nicely together in my Keyboardless set up.

@knobsswitches

Ай бұрын

I had wondered why they didn't offer the keyboard as a frame where you could then change the synthesizers as modules.

@lesterfalcon1350

Ай бұрын

Not a bad a idea. I wonder if they had pre planned this range when they made the Poly-D. Or whether it's success led to re-use of the format. I got the idea of separating the synth from the keys from a someone who did it with the Poly-D. Selling just the synth would have really cut down on weight and shipping, it's about half the weight and a 3rd of the size. Still feels hefty. Not too fussed about the poly D, but the MS-5 sounds really different and more my kind of thing. A shame it doesn't separate down without the portamento, but my wallet is happier.

Which synth is playing at 5:32?

@knobsswitches

27 күн бұрын

The MS-5!

Watching this and comparing to my own experience with an SH5, I wonder if that SH5 needs service/calibration. It’s not in bad shape, but there are some things (the ring mod) that definitely sound a bit different. Having watched the whole video, I’m going to blaspheme and say I like the MS5 a bit more.

👍

The Sh5 was my first synth along with an arp omni. The sh5 could really scream. You can hear it on run through the jungle by Sacred Cowboys.

The MS-5 might be the only B synth to ever pique my interest in sound alone. At 20:50 it sounds very good and much like the Roland. Thanks for showing modulation instead of just sterile patches, helps to hear the real differences.

@foxate

Ай бұрын

Same!

@knobsswitches

Ай бұрын

Glad that you like it. That's how it was meant to be

I bought an original TB-303 in 1994 and when I bought TD-3 it sounded very bad next to the original, too grating and the distortion was not doing its job well, the problem was that VCO and VCA were not in their correct calibration, the BPM were also wrong and can be calibrated. After a few minutes I managed to calibrate the machine and I already had my second bass lines to make identical double bass lines. I bought the MS-5 this year, I have mine configured and calibrated with an original SH 5 from a colleague who recommended this Behringer synthesizer and we did the same as with my TD-3. We did some measurements and testing, you can definitely sound the same as an original. Behringer never gives the machines calibrated and many make that mistake before comparing, I suppose they do it this way to leave each user under their responsibility. So in the TD-3 you have the problem that if you open the machine you lose the warranty, but in these keyboards you do not need to open the machine, they are completely manipulable from the rear panel of the adjustable module, and you will not lose the warranty. Greetings and thanks for the purchase.

@xntricity6446

3 күн бұрын

Interesting, by the way did you upgrade to the td3 Mo version? I didn't know people were recalibrating them as mine sounds OK but not fantastic.

@inperfectsequence7840

2 күн бұрын

@@xntricity6446 I won't upgrade to the Mo, I'm already covered in that type of sound with 303 and TD-3. Everything sounds correct between my 303 and TD-3. The same for my MS-5, that was brutal, very satisfied with the only 2 purchases I have from Behringer and that is fantastic for my tracks. 👍

@xntricity6446

2 күн бұрын

@@inperfectsequence7840 very cool, I'd like to recalibrate my td3 - mo to get it sounding better, is there information online on how to do it. Thanks

useful comparison but I think it is more about the character rather then having exactly the same with behringer. Also new fresh components will never sound like tired 45y old gear, like both off them 👍

nice grauzoneee jam haha

How will the MS 5 sound in 50 years?

@VincentPresley

Ай бұрын

it won't work in 4 weeks

@Heathcliff_hensel

Ай бұрын

check back in 50 years and let us know.

5sec and you hear the difference in sound quality

Can’t wait for my MS5. Thanks Behringer ❤

When you clone a big muff the vintage almost always sounds better, unless you use all the exact same kinds and values as the original example (including odd values for resistors) The tolerances are also much tighter with modern smd than older carbon resistors, the caps also sound different. So the Behringer if it can last 40+ years will probably never sound the same or as warm. It just needs to be viewed as a modern component basic SH-5 Clone.

@vernellshelton90

Ай бұрын

Exactly ❗️

@hanzvolt

Ай бұрын

yes!

@knobsswitches

Ай бұрын

True!

a synth youtuber who makes cool songs? color me surprised! the roland definitely sounds more lively and interesting, and the behringer sounds more hollow and thin, but the clone sounds pretty cool. I watched this by not looking at the screen, and Every time I heard a sound and thought 'oooh whats that' it's the roland.

Sounds like Nitzer Ebb!

hast n abo vom süden erhalten 🙌🇨🇭

@knobsswitches

Ай бұрын

Dankeschön!

Great effort in this comparison. What I dislike most about the MS, apart from differences in behaviors, is perhaps that consistently harsh top end that’s not present on the original. In my experience this is common to other Behringer clones.

@user-wg6mt3se1n

Ай бұрын

hello mark levinson, how are your golden ears? it's a shame that you don't make your own synth that you could criticize :) ps. you won't achieve anything with your behavior, sorry. now quickly back to bullyingslutz where you are better off

@PietroTaucher

Ай бұрын

Regardless of the 50-year age difference, comparing two tools will always lead to the same result. I was also brighter 50 yrs ago!!! ;) If you listen to a Rhodes now and what it was back in the days seem so far away. I prefer the MS-5, way more on tune, more contemporary,clean still warm, useful. you will never use an SH-5 on a recording nowdays. We need instrument for playing music not for bookshelves. sorry.

@payt01

Ай бұрын

I wouldn't call it harsh. Maybe a tad brighter, due to newer electronics, caps, etc. In 40 years the MS-5 probably sounds just like the SH=5 does now :) Either way I don't think there's an alternative if you want something like a new SH-5, which doesn't need constant TLC to keep it going. Even the example used in the videos had crackles and pops going all over the place, as well as double triggers.

@PWMaarten

Ай бұрын

@@PietroTaucherexcuses you? Never use a SH-5 on a record nowadays? That’s a wild statement.

@AdamTheAd-vanc3d

Ай бұрын

​@@PietroTaucher😂😂😂😂 word ! and I'm not even 50 yet

Had a few Behringer synths, they always lacking something not much character and today there a so much little synth manufacturers which deserve my money more than behringer.

@knobsswitches

14 күн бұрын

valid point!

Although there are some obvious differences when compared with the original, the Behringer MS-5 sounds very good. Thank you for this wonderful demonstration and comparison.

@knobsswitches

Ай бұрын

My pleasure! Glad you like it

@mysynthpunklife

2 күн бұрын

Redundant 😂😂😂😂😂😂

@kvmoore1

2 күн бұрын

@mysynthpunklife Yeah, I agree. For me, it would be redundant considering all the other synths I currently own. Although the MS-5 does sound pretty good, I'm definitely not GASing for one.

Roland sounds vintage warm and great, but behringer sound modern and nice

Maybe recalibrating my SH5 could bringt it nearer to the MS5 (it's at least my 3rd one, after selling it 2 times for money reasons) - to my ears the overload of the BPF was higher on the MS5 - the intensity of mod and lfo sort of influence the max possible modulation etc - over all there have been quite a lot good moments. all of my SH5'es where not sounding the same and even the behaviour was different on all 3. I like the clicky sounds when playing around with S/H and ADSR and filter. don't know how newly calibrated units my differ.

I love me some good synth

Thank you for the video. But i have to ask you to be a bit more careful with the volume. The intro tune is at -2 Lufs. This was brutally loud and the rest of the video ranges mostly between -14 to -20 Lufs.

@jumpingman8160

Ай бұрын

Seriously? You are using that jargon on a yutube transmission? Did you watch some mixing tips about LUFS recently? 😅 Confess

@hanzvolt

Ай бұрын

omg... what do you expect from a behringer video

@bojangprodoktschns5428

Ай бұрын

Constructive criticism isn't hate. Verstaerker not only put his criticism in short and concise language (which is exactly what jargon is there for), he even took the time to do the measurements to do so. If this isn't showing love, I don't know what is!

@jumpingman8160

Ай бұрын

@@bojangprodoktschns5428 it's not love. It's watching vids.

German + synth dungeon + Chris & Cosey shirt = subscribe

The filter on the original is where the magic is, cannot copy these nuances

✅ The Behringer clone sounds like a Behringer clone.

@oblitafier

Ай бұрын

No shit. What’s your point?

@ElectroPanPipes

Ай бұрын

@@oblitafierIt’s supposed to actually sound like what it’s cloned from. Not a Behringer

The originals usually win the A/B comparisons but in a mix with EQ and effects few people could tell the difference if they didn't know.

To me the behringer “sounds” significantly more available, affordable and reliable than an original 50 year old SH5… funny but i bet if Roland reissued the SH5 today no one would dare say it was a clone even though the only actual difference would be the name and significant hike in price. Well done Behringer for bringing us synths and gear that we actually want to own.

@JustDoIt-xq9pi

Ай бұрын

If you step outside your own cheap bubble you would know many have been complaining about Roland not sticking to the OG's sound wise and milking their history. This doesn't mean a cheap knock off made in China (cause that's why it's so cheap) is therefor better. All you're looking for is the placebo effect that's as cheap as possible. 😉

@jumpstar9000

Ай бұрын

If Roland re-released it, then it would probably be VA as well.

@jumpstar9000

Ай бұрын

​@JustDoIt-xq9pi You went straight to the adhominem attacks huh.

@kevingort4926

Ай бұрын

​@@JustDoIt-xq9piQuit talking stupidity.

@JustDoIt-xq9pi

Ай бұрын

​@@kevingort4926 Uli wants you on your knees with your mouth open. Stay down like you're told. 😉

Thank you for this. Yes, It is a difference between them, and Behringer sounds better, however is the question if better is what we want compared to the vintage sound. Its up to the individual to decide, but in the end who have the possibility to choose? Behringer does a great thing bringing back the old classics alive in the best way it is possible including modern functional updates.

Chris and Cosey tee shirt

Shame Behringer didn't nail the raspiness of the SH5, that was main part of its sound..It won't stop me buying the MS5 though. Peace

Old instruments are just better!! But for the price that Behringer is ridiculous 👀

Reminds me a lot of my old Roland System 100 (the original 1975 version, not the 100M). Yes, the old one sounds a bit warmer, but they're both good IMO.

@knobsswitches

Ай бұрын

yes, it was really fun to work with the ms5 and and it has a bit of that system 100 vibe ;-)

i suspect most of the differences you're seeing are down to component tolerances, and the aged components in your SH-5. Realistically, they sound as close as any two SH-5's would...

The great thing about the original analogue synths is put 3 next to each other and they’ll all be different, put any of the Behringer’s recreations in a mix and there won’t be enough of a difference to really notice.

@PietroTaucher

Ай бұрын

right on!

I can't wait to see what the clones look like in the same amount of time since the original was made.. plastic vs a metal chassis

@user-wg6mt3se1n

Ай бұрын

So the poly-d and monopoly have a metal casing with a wooden bed, how did you come up with plastic?

@jumpingman8160

Ай бұрын

Pro 1 was dreadful. The Behringer version is built like a tank. WASP was a piece of garbage learning toy. The Behringer version eats it for lunch.

@Sandelec-gm2cl

Ай бұрын

But the poly D..monopoly..Model D..Neutron.. Edge..and deepmind 12 are fantastic..!! Expensive brands hates Behringer because brings us great synths with an affordable price.✌🏻

Honestly, it's no surprise to me that I like the sound of the Behringer MS-5 more because it's got new components in it. It largely sounds brighter and more 'full'.

you need to balance the volumes between your voice and the intro, almost hurt my ears :D

"OSCULATORS" 😂😂😂

@dankeplace

25 күн бұрын

Given your leader Sam can't pronounce anything correctly, I doubt you should be laughing at someone else where their native language is possibly not English. WD in proving your worth.

@jumpingman8160

25 күн бұрын

@@dankeplace off the meds again, I see.

I believe you can make it 50 years to see how it ages. Although your hearing might not be the same :)

@knobsswitches

Ай бұрын

probably 🙂

Sounds interesting although the original killed it from start to finish. If they tried a little harder with the look and feel I might be tempted but every time I get one of their synths I feel like I'm playing, and looking at, a playschool toy. Can't they even pay a graphic designer? The original is great but I wouldn't pay over 3k for one and even that is a bit much. Beh synths look and feel so bad that I feel ripped off even when they are $150.

That SH needs some work done on it.

MS5 looks like the coolest clone imo

It’s frustrating that they make clones of keyboard instruments with less keys than the originals. You literally cannot play them the same.

Behringer should have included a sequencer and a way to control the BP filter. Why some of their clones have sequencers and others don't is baffling.

@oblitafier

Ай бұрын

Baffling? If the original has a sequencer, you’ll get a sequencer. Not that baffling.

@jumpingman8160

Ай бұрын

@@oblitafier the Arp had no sequencer

@ernestomartinez5296

Ай бұрын

What is so special about having a sequencer that you can’t do with an external one?

@leftmono1016

Ай бұрын

⁠@@ernestomartinez5296- agreed, no point in having a built in sequencer on a synth like this. Imho.

@dankeplace

Ай бұрын

Behringer should try making a synth they don't have to clone, but we all know that's too hard, just like adding a sequencer no one gives a shit about.

You can't beat the originals for looks and sound, but the Behringer clones come VERY close and my experience of over 30 years owning and using older machines means I don't miss faults, servicing, rare or completely obsolete parts, and crazy asking prices (although that bubble has burst and 'vintage' prices are falling faster each year). I also like the form factor of rack mounted clones too, the Pro-1 and D are amazing for the money, and this SH-5 clone is too. I hope they clone a Moog The Source (I have seen poly source mock ups on line) as that is a gorgeous sounding mono. If they do clone it, I hope they put knobs where that dodgy membrane panel was fitted.

close, cheaper and new with a warranty..come with midid too and looks nice

@knobsswitches

Ай бұрын

true!

All depends on Behringer formware updates i guess .good enough for me , all these knob heads that think they coukd tell the difference after a proper mixdown, .lol.