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Behringer bdi 21 VS Caline cp-60 (Wine Cellar)
I compared these very similar preamps ( Sansamp clone) with the same settings without adding any post processor effect.
Dry bass track : Fender Precision classic 50 mod. with Seymour Duncan SPB-3 p/j set.
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That snare in the full mix is really overpowering dude holy shit lol - otherwise great demo
I feel like the Wine Cellar really punches out of a mix a lot better. They both have a similar overall sound but the Caline is more clear and present to my ears.
Behringer has a more noticeable top end which is fine for slap bass and such but the wine cellar is more suited to rhythm and sits better in the mix because it specializes in lower frequencies. Both are good and iam sure they could be tweaked to sound very similar.
Drums are very loud... But honestly that's kind of useful because you can still hear wether or not the bass cuts through the mix. And they do! I like the Caline a tiny bit better in the mix I think. But it's mostly just a bit of extra low-end that you could probably crank on the Behringer. It being a P-bass with really nice pickups might also help. Any p-bass should cut through the mix in most circumstances, that's why studio engineers love them.
I have the Caline. I use it for my home studio PA. I think it sounds great! Great bargain too!!
@carlothekeeper
15 күн бұрын
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Your dry bass sound sounds freaking great... hard to imagine what this would do to my bland basses.
@carlothekeeper
2 жыл бұрын
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@jessicagarcia7558
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it dose... What kind of strings are you using?
@carlothekeeper
Жыл бұрын
@@jessicagarcia7558 I used rotosound rs66ld. Sorry for the delay ...
@Ralferator
5 ай бұрын
just get a cheap Precision Bass, like an SX, put in some Tonerider Pickups, a good set of strings and you are set
Awesome demo and comparison. 😎🤘🏻🎸both preamp pedals sound good. And it’s pretty cool that you demoed these pedals on their own first and then demoed it with a band mix. Between the two, I kinda liked the caline wine cellar the most. I was thinking about getting one since I’ve been looking to get an affordable preamp pedal.
@carlothekeeper
2 жыл бұрын
The Caline box is more solid than Bdi, i think it's much better for pedalboard and long time use
@alexskibicki2262
2 жыл бұрын
Agreed…I’ve recently purchased one and it sounds incredible. Especially with distortion pedals. 😎🤘🏻🎸
@drixxv2435
Жыл бұрын
@@alexskibicki2262 You mean you used in guitar distortion pedal?
@alexskibicki2262
Жыл бұрын
@@drixxv2435 no I use bass distortion pedals
I love the riff you’re playing…I could listen to it all day!
@carlothekeeper
2 жыл бұрын
you're too kind...thank you
Wine cellar seem to have more headroom, volume, and clarity. At personal taste, what's your favourite?
@carlothekeeper
2 жыл бұрын
Wine Cellar
@nesjo7777
2 жыл бұрын
THE BDI21 A little level up. The same the wine cellar.....
Hi! Just want to ask, is it okay to use preamp for an active pickup? specifically i'm using fender jazz bass with active pickups. thank you!
@carlothekeeper
Жыл бұрын
Yes, you can use It with active pick up
Great job, hoss! I wish ALL pedal demos were like this!
Amazingly I have these two pedals in my guitar case.The Behringer has served me well over ten+ years starting out with a Yamaha RB and Peavey tko amp.The Caline I have had only 4/5 months with a Fender Jazz and Mark 11 head and Hartke cab.I have yet to A/B all my options including running through my Eden World Tour rig( collecting dust),but I have to say that the Caline is a great pre-amp for the money.Yes I want a Tech Geddy Lee MP but finances don’t allow.The Behringer is no slouch either.And it still works and never let me down.The Caline has more punch.Ps.The Caline Pegasus overdrive for guitar will give a Klon a good run for its(lot less)money!
Great demo man ! Really like both, but have to say the Wine Cellar had a bit more punch. In your personal view would you say the Caline can get a bit more dirty than the BDI ? Keep up the great work
@carlothekeeper
2 жыл бұрын
The gain levels are quite similar but at max level the caline sounds more fat and with a greater sustain
@Mr.Steve-O
2 жыл бұрын
@@carlothekeeper I thought that was the case, thx again !
If my main pedal, I'd go with the Caline because of its metal encasing. As a replacement, I'd take the Behringer because it's half the price. Both sound pretty much the same. Note: in the first comparison (all knobs centered), the Caline sounds hotter because the blend is at max, whereas the Behringer is at 50%.
@carlothekeeper
2 жыл бұрын
The blend it's always at 100%. The image isn't correct
The Wine Cellar sounds better in both mixes i feel its hotter than the Berhinger
@carlothekeeper
2 жыл бұрын
hi man, when i play Caline, reminds me of the same roughness of the sansamp. Anyway the BDI seems to have more headroom and still sounds good. They're very similar pedals, cheap but with a great sound...
@timematrix
2 жыл бұрын
The blend on the bdi was at 50/50 during the mix demo while the caline mix knob was full up
@carlothekeeper
2 жыл бұрын
@@timematrix the blend mix audio is always 100%. There's an error on the two bdi fat tube preset images. Sorry....It's my mistake
Been using a BDI for the last year or so... Might have to get a Wine Cellar as well, and use an a/b splitter so I can have both of them in a mix
Can a bassist use a bass driver and bass eq pedal together?
@carlothekeeper
2 жыл бұрын
Yes off course
sorry for the dumb question but when you run a pedal like this do you run it in the loop or before the loop? This BD21 seems like a good option to start with and learn with
@carlothekeeper
2 жыл бұрын
????
@joaoalcantara6676
2 жыл бұрын
I like to use my Sansamp into the amp's input, but as they are all preamp pedals, they should sound good in the loop, too. Matter of taste. Try both methods!
@AndyPanda9
2 жыл бұрын
It's really meant to be run in place of an amplifier. When you add it to your bass amp it's just adding an amp simulation and bass EQ and cab sim to your bass amp that already has all that. Doesn't usually sound good that way. Plug your bass into it and send the DI out to the PA system or to your recording equipment. That's what it's for.
@ernieD
2 жыл бұрын
@@AndyPanda9/@Joao A. I've run a couple different preamp pedals into the effects return, bass plugged into pedal. Thereby bypassing the amp heads built in pre. Just uses the pedal as preamp alone. With amp head like a power amp. Or i run a pedal into the front of the amp as well. This for rehearals/live gigs. Works well for my use. Try both ways n see.
Too much drums in mix! Too much...
what is the frequency of the low?
Do they work directly connected to the headphones?
@bipoti534
2 жыл бұрын
Behringer cannot
@carlothekeeper
2 жыл бұрын
They are connect to a focusrite scarlett
I dont think the Caline comes with a power adapter. WHat do you have plugged into it?
@carlothekeeper
8 ай бұрын
In the box there is a short cable for 9v battery
The Behringer and the Wine Cellar have enough XLR volume for a mixer/PA or to pilot a Power amp like the Sansamp?
@carlothekeeper
Жыл бұрын
I really don't know....
@WilDBeestMF
Жыл бұрын
Yes, definitely. Whether it's a good sounding DI, I'm not so sure.
@oliverrenacia3201
Жыл бұрын
Yes. I'm using this for like 3 years now.
@juniorpavon
Жыл бұрын
@@oliverrenacia3201what's your chain? I want to buy it for di sound.
@sparkyguitar0058
10 ай бұрын
@@oliverrenacia3201 Which are you using?
Drums is too loud
lol, 98% THIS SOUND IS BECAUASE PICKUPS AND STRINGS WITH HIGH QUALITY
@Ralferator
5 ай бұрын
it's an important part, yes, but the preamp clearly forms the sound too
My wine cellar does next to nothing on my active and passive basses. Total waste of money.
I used the BDI 21 in the past and afterward I realize that I can only wipe my ass with it for all I care ...you know what I'm sayin'?
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