> If we get a Tiamat servant that is not King Protea I will cry on stream. I guess you'd better not watch last arcade servant introduction xD

@klidge

2 жыл бұрын

My rage is unending

@mfthemattdetonados

2 жыл бұрын

Onore Arukaido

@aredjayc2858

2 жыл бұрын

@@mfthemattdetonados "I'll never forgive the Japanese"

@ghostshrimp5006

2 жыл бұрын

@@klidge and mother harlot aka best 666

@klidge

2 жыл бұрын

@@ghostshrimp5006 I’ve already done my due and cried on stream

Correction: A Beast must LOVE humanity, even in a twisted way. You cannot HATE humanity and be a Beast at the same time. Ashiya hates humanity, so he can't become a Beast.

@darkstorm2579

Жыл бұрын

It's been a year and people still make this mistake. I found someone mention Chaos as a possible Beast candidate, but in the same statement, say that Chaos has no love for humanity, ergo, eliminating him as a Beast Candidate entirely.

In an interview with Nasu for the heaven's feel movies he mentioned Angra Mainyu would have become a proper Beast (The beast of retribution) after merging with sakura after being born. So in some alternate universe outside of the main heaven's feel route Angry Mango did fully become a beast.

@thejudge1728

2 жыл бұрын

Pretty sure those timelines ultimately get pruned away.

@keiken8263

2 жыл бұрын

So basically every time that you died in HF route, you created a beast Angry Mango

@NoOne-Belongs

2 жыл бұрын

@@thejudge1728 I don't think they got pruned away just because a beast shows up. After all beasts of humanity are a part of humanity and are an obstacle humanity must overcome. The only reason a timeline gets pruned is if humanity/earth reach a stagnation

@anadaere6861

2 жыл бұрын

World: Shirou died? Alaya: Shirou died World: FUCKING SEND IT *world pruned*

@fbhnied

2 жыл бұрын

@@anadaere6861 i would really love if this is the real interaction between the World and Alaya xD

I kinda like the idea of Noah being grand rider. Edit: omg I was actually right.

@lekhaclam87

2 жыл бұрын

Too bad he is currently an Arcade exclusive.

@Missing-Ace

2 жыл бұрын

ONORE ACRCADEO!

@intrex6487

2 жыл бұрын

imagine they did noah like oddeysseus, change the boat to spaceship🤣🤣🤣

@lekhaclam87

2 жыл бұрын

@@intrex6487 Knowing Fate these days, that's probably how they'll do it. Or he can spawn unlimited animal work from his ship.

@williamcote4208

2 жыл бұрын

@@Missing-Ace him being arcade exclusive isn’t that bad… TIAMAT ON THE OTHER HAND! ONORE ARCADOOOOO!

spoiler: seriously dont open 7:48 literal clairvoyance

It's a personal headcannon that Artoria/Arthur are actually really close to achieving the title/position of Grand, but its their dream/Devotion to the people of Britan that prevents them from being a grand/grand canidate. They do not fight for all of humanity/the world, merely the people of britian, and i think this is very fitting and honestly thematically rich, given their characther motivations and flaws. Given that there are few individuals with as much noterity and influence as King Arthur, the only thing stopping a version of them from qualifying for the canidacy is their own deep rooted dreams and devotion is an amazing bit of characterization in my mind. While people meme and joke about proto-Arthur being the grand saber, its entirely possible as given his experiences in prototype, that he may be the closest of them all to qualifying for the position and given the fact that he is chasing after a beast, Its possible that a future event causes him to Qualify. Its also equally possible that, Given Artoria/Saber was featured in the promo art of Cosmos in the lost belt, but has yet to make a proper appearance (Castoria does not count, as much as i love her) That she also might qualify for the postion if she appears during lostbelt 7.

@Robofan998

2 жыл бұрын

This might also, provide an in universe explenation for the obession with Artoria, because while we know from a meta standpoint its because shes the face of the franchise, in universe the fact that there are so many Artoria/Varients could be because the throne is trying to create a version of Artoria to qualify for the title of grand, but theres something so ingranined in her very characther that makes it into every incarnation any version of her thus far from qualifying. It also, and this is something i didnt realize when making my first post, but from a meta standpoint, means that if Artoria or a version of her becomes the Grand Saber, it would mean it would not nesscestate a retcon of F:SN, as new charachter development would not change or recontextualize the events of F:SN.

@Urd-Vidan

2 жыл бұрын

I mean, Arthur is currently chasing 666 throughout multiple worlds, so I think compared to Artoria, Arthur is currently a lot more dedicated to kill 666.

@procrastinatingphoenix5396

2 жыл бұрын

Except Arthur's given up his wish for Britain to become a eternal utopia, instead he's decided to fight for a better future for the world as a whole. Hell his summon line is "I am Saber. I am a Servant who protects you and the world." His line about the Holy Grail "The search for the Holy Grail... That brings back memories. It's no longer important to me. My only goal now is to rid the world of evil." Imo he makes the most sense as Grand Saber and if he's not Grand Saber he's doing the job of a Grand as a normal servant.

@Urd-Vidan

2 жыл бұрын

@@procrastinatingphoenix5396 Exactly. He's basically a Grand Saber that's already doing the job of a Grand without being a Grand.

@Robofan998

2 жыл бұрын

@@procrastinatingphoenix5396 Definetly agree, on that front, hence why i said he's probably the closest. Its possible his contract with chaldea prevents him from qualfying for the position, but im not fully versed in all his interludes/dialouge. Its also possible that he has all the makings of a grand servant, but either isnt aware of his canadicy, or perhaps the existing grand saber trumps him, and his quest to defeat beast 666 will be what causes him to surpass the current grand saber

if we look at the Grand ability, they have something to screw with the Beast defensive ability King Hassan: he can apply concept of dead to Tiamat so that we can kill her despite her being primordial life Romulus: he can apply Rome trait and can hit thing despite distance, he no doubt counter Kama since she was an entire mini universe who we have issue fighting because of distance along side her trait stacking to screw with us, he can make her Roman to screw with her like how we use the Oku and Tokugawa trait to mess with Kama to force her to dump them and he can also hit her regarless of where she is in the mini universe Orion was noted to have a specific NP for animal, Fou and Vitch are animal, 1+1=2 Grand Caster was noted to need Clairvoyance, which probably mean their Beast to counter have a way of hiding which their future/past/present sight is needed to counter there more to Grand then just being the best at the class

@retunedsky7188

2 жыл бұрын

Noah: Can use his Ark in NP, because Beast VI will drown the world in mud.

@Khann_2102

2 жыл бұрын

@@retunedsky7188 now all that's left is Grand Berserker and Grand Saber, right?

@retunedsky7188

2 жыл бұрын

@@Khann_2102 yeah. A lot of people theories grand Berserker appearing in lostbelt 7 as Daybit's Servant. It probably either is some Aztec dude or maybe Cain. There are not a lot of clues on who grand Saber is expect its probably a holy sword user(holy sword for example: excalibur or kusanagi no tachi)

@sdbzfan1

2 жыл бұрын

@@retunedsky7188 if both grands have to connected to humanity, i would love susano'o as grand saber but think extella spoiled that grand saber uses a holy sword specifically, and grand berserker has to be from the region summoned to

@retunedsky7188

2 жыл бұрын

@@sdbzfan1 Susanoo is impossible to be summoned as a Grand or even at any normal way expect of as a Pseudo Servant. Roma boi himself said that he is the only Divine Spirit taht can be summoned as a Grand Servant because of his connections to humanity. Imma just keep praying in the corner its Yamato Takeru and not fucking Arthur/Artoria the Grand Saber.

If I recall correctly, Nasu said in an interview that Grand Candidates must have a strong mythological tie. Hence why we have a Demi God and a Chief God who was a man once as Grands. Solomon himself was a servant of God himself. And Hassan took orders from Heaven and received the concept of Death for it. Not saying your picks are bad, but I don't think them probable. But a Grand role for Herc would be believable. His sword was said to rival Excalibur and Arthur did use Myrmadose in his legends at one point.

@ruta9044

2 жыл бұрын

Merlin is the Grand Caster and yet he has no strong mythological ties. I’ve also never heard of Nasu saying that before.

@fromeggman

2 жыл бұрын

@@ruta9044 Arthurian Myth is exactly that a myth. The man in the myth was going to be born as the*Anti-Christ* but it was prayed out of him. He was still an Incubus hybrid. And the Arthurian myth is strongly tied with Christian faith and the Holy Grail itself.

@purpleenthusiast5814

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely agree. If they don't make herc a grand something, I will actually riot

@blazesona12

2 жыл бұрын

yea but herc is more kinda known for his bow skills...... his sword was just a backup thing and more like a club than blade....

@erenkruger5760

2 жыл бұрын

Herc is just busted in general lol he's probably a candidate for Grand Saber,Grand Archer and Grand Berserker because for Saber he has Marmydose who Castoria herself said is stronger than Excalibur, Archer because it's his best class and Alcides is said to be weaker than OG Archer Herc which is ridiculous be ausr Alcides already has a great showing in strange Fake and for Berserker because I can't think of anyone else who can be stronger than Herc in a Berserker form except for Berserker Enkidu

One of the most fascinating concepts in Type Moon to me is Alaya and Gaia, or the collective unconsciousness of humanity and the will of Earth to survive. The Throne of Heroes, Servants and the Holy Grail are all products of Alaya. Things like Phantasmal Species and Divine Spirits are natural products of Earth’s energy. Alaya is stronger in Fate, as to which Sorcery, Servants and the Grail are thematically prevalent, and Tsukihime has a stronger Gaia as to which True Ancestors etc are more prevalent.

@darkstorm2579

Жыл бұрын

Wonder what would happen if these two worlds were to clash.

"He TECHNICALLY does not forfeit his title of Grand." Sounds like Merlin, alright...

My head canon is that when the Master of Chaldea dies, they'll become the next Grand Berserker. Cuz you have to be special kind of insane to go through the FGO storyline and not have a mental breakdown because of the loss, guilt and horrors they have seen and maintain a positive outlook (We have committed genocide a few times over already) . That or Grand Caster for that absolutely massive mana pool we must have to be able to maintain 6 Servants at a time.

@amari7782

2 жыл бұрын

First off gudao does have issues their incredibly suppressed because of what happened in case files as for grand caster they don’t have any lvl of clairvoyance and Chaldea is actually the ones powering our servants for the most part

@DuoSanguis

2 жыл бұрын

@@amari7782 I was under the impression that Chaldea provided the mana for the undeployed servants but out in the field it was all Gudao, I thought that was the only notable thing about us: MASSIVE MANA, itty-bitty-teeny-tiny magic circuit. Could be wrong tho

@amari7782

2 жыл бұрын

@@DuoSanguis you need good magic circuits we mainly have a high compatibility with ray shifting and we only provide mana to mainly mash

@ayaya-

2 жыл бұрын

@@DuoSanguis well the party you use is only for gameplay, most of the servant you get in the story are not summoned by you, there is a contract yes but they are mainly maintained by the grail or the mana in the singularity, the only servant you directly provide mana to is our dear eggplant

@DuoSanguis

2 жыл бұрын

@@ayaya- I see, well, it just reinforces the Madness Enhancement EX++ vibe of going into Singularities/Lostbelts with only eggplant-chan as your only guaranteed support. Grand Berserker indeed.

Saber Hercules has been theorized to be the grand saber, it was hint it by Jason, that Hercules saber is the strongest form of Hercules

I believe that Nero is also counted as a beast candidate for Mother Harlet the beast that Proto Arthur is constantly pursuing through the multiverse. Other than that great video this is one of the most and least favorite topics because of the discussion that can come from it but also that no one can be sure until Nasu/Type-Moon says for sure.

@Fronswath

2 жыл бұрын

Welp this comment aged well lol

Im surprised you didnt mention Amaterasu considering in CCC it was said she could be a candidate for Evil Of Humanity, anyways its a very informative video :D

@klidge

2 жыл бұрын

I'm wagering that they are gonna play on that with this Tamamo Vitch event, or just with her in the future

@young_dieg0301

2 жыл бұрын

@@klidge Ohhh kay kay btw, do you think one of the Grands will appear on Arcade? Considering Arcade rn is on going to Babylon and for the looks of it the Beast Of 666 is in there

@klidge

2 жыл бұрын

@@young_dieg0301 I would definitely not be surprised if they got one of the Grands before the main game. Honestly they’ll probably get grand rider before us, whoever that turns out to be. Either way I’d be super hyped

@rzhecheah4114

2 жыл бұрын

Didn't the leak say something about Noah being the grand rider ,the reason why adult Nemo is in Babylon.

@KhanMann66

2 жыл бұрын

@@rzhecheah4114 I thought it was Nero?

I think the Grand Saber is gonna be Yamato Takeru. He is The guy which owns Divine Sword Kusanagi no Tachi and also counts as the Japanese King Arthur. Also would make him appearing in Lostbelt 6.5 as it is highly implied the next Beast looking being which will appear is Tamamo vitch's nine tailed form. And the anyone who knows Kusanagi no Tachi's history knows that the sword was a present from Susanoo to Amaterasu. So kinda there is a connection in that way. But expect that I think the Swordsman which is above everyone is the Original Wielder of Excalibur which killed Sefar

@stardust8797

2 жыл бұрын

I was under the impression that the grand servant position was constantly changed (with the exception of King Hassan because Gramps is death) with the candidates being the pool to be summoned so they can take care of the beast’s nega skill and lead to its demise If I am right, the Holy Sword Wielder and Yamato could be summoned depending on the situation

@tonyinfinite5174

2 жыл бұрын

That's a god so it can't be counted as a grand as for which god we don't know

@retunedsky7188

2 жыл бұрын

@@tonyinfinite5174 heh? When was it stated that the original wielder was a divine spirit?

@stardust8797

2 жыл бұрын

@@tonyinfinite5174 Which one Because I looked it up and Yamato Takeru is a human and the Holy Sword Wielder was confirmed by Sefar to be a mere mortal

@retunedsky7188

2 жыл бұрын

@@stardust8797 no there can be only a single grand of a class out there. Yes both Yamato and the Holy sword wielder can count as candidates because technically both being strong in legend and power though but there should be only 1 which is one above them all. Tahst the grands. Both Roma boi and Chad Orion gave up their places as grands and probably are aldready replace by new servants. As the only class which was stated only 1 candidate exists is King hassan as assasin. If he leaves his place for a limited time of time nobody can do anything. As he is the only person which can be the Grand Assasin.

All the Beasts vs all the Grand Servants is something I wanna see

@monsieurromanbedlam5101

2 жыл бұрын

I can see the Beasts killing each other lol. Especially the L and R versions.

Noah is grand rider.

I will leave my roster of Grand Servant prediction (without taking in the story's context) Saber - male Musashi New Grand Archer - Rama Rider - Aurelian (though I doubt they would have two Roman being Grand) Berserker - Cain

@elegantamadeus9873

2 жыл бұрын

how does cain will be a grand berserker? The guy got Punish by god with a mark of cain he will be just weeping

Don't you love how dated this video got. Arcade showing Beast VI, *AND* Grand Rider Noah, with JP Showing that Koyanskaya was a candidate for (and became) Beast IV L(ost), with Taiko being a grand caster candidate. (And mentioning Noah as grand rider so maybe hope we get him in Mobile)

My bet for Grand Berserker is Psudoservant Taiga as Tezcatlipoca. Since Jaguar Warrior is a mask that Tezcatlipoca wears, and Jaguarmura-Sensei does have Mad Enhancement. That and there's hints in dialog that relate to Tezcatlipoca.

@lookingforlove839

2 жыл бұрын

Could be a cu caster case. Future taiga buffs otw

I think that Noah is the Grand Rider

As a person from Tunisia I will feel great honour to see Hannibal as a grand servant but I think he will most likely be a rider since his most famous thing is alternating between his elephant and horse during battle

@amari7782

2 жыл бұрын

He’s a rider in fate requiem

@Kyle19819

2 жыл бұрын

This comment aged well, cuz Noah is Grand Rider in Arcade

So uhhhh. Not be a God to be a grand....that aged well

@demothiguillermo2059

Жыл бұрын

You can only be grand and god if you have a close connection to humanity

Yeah, I know you have no control of what in the video gets contradicted later on, but in an interview Nasu basically said that are there are multiple Servant’s that could be Grand for each of the classes except for Assassin, the one that get’s summoned as the Grand for that class is the one that is the best matchup against the Beast that needs to be fought.

@klidge

2 жыл бұрын

Imagine me releasing this video and the next week both Tiamat and Noah are released. Pain.

There's a theory that says Castoria will be used as a catalist to summon the Great Saber. The Great Saber would be Artoria is her classic Saber form. Considering that Muramassa is the most OP Saber nowadays and he uses Shirou as a vessel, I wouldn't be surprised.

@vergiltheartofpower6616

2 жыл бұрын

It's either proto-arthur, guy is been hopping dimension-dimension to find beast 6

@durrangodsgrief6503

Жыл бұрын

@@vergiltheartofpower6616 I REALLY hope its proto arthur

I have been watching Lucifer recently, so I thought maybe Cain could be a Grand Berserker. He is human, betrayed Gods will, and committed the first murder.

@durrangodsgrief6503

2 жыл бұрын

But that was out of Jealousy and not maddening rage or insanity

@hmmmooops

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds more like an assassin

I think the grand servent is actually friend that we make along the way

The founder of the Incan Empire could be a candidate for a grand Saber. He led his small city state to war against a larger kingdom and won despite being outnumbered. He then established an empire that spead along the Chilean coast and beyond. Keep in mind this was in the Andeas Mountains. The empire wouldn't fall until the Spanish came. (Suprising no one)

@ayaya-

2 жыл бұрын

he would be a lancer tho, it's a small head cannon that the grand lancer is someone who erected a civilization like ROMAAA boy, unless you refer to one of the 4 brothers in which case one of the 1 would a lancer l, other an archer(one of them made a ravine by throwing a stone far away) and I cant remember much of the other 2

Grand rider has been revealed to be Noah, the man who built the arc

I forgot where I read this but I heard Davy Jones was a candidate for grand Rider because of his significance to Sailors and his concern over life and death

Do you think with how we've basically have an Artoria in every class, that we'd get a Beast Artoria? Or an Alternative version who could SOMEHOW reach Grand/Candidate status? Like one who after having spent a century or a few protecting Brittain, they began to start devoting themselves to protecting the whole of humanity? Going out to extinguish any manner of otherworldly or supernatural threat to humanity. Something like Qin Shi Huang except on a more Artoria way. Like... Somehow during their time, a Beast manifested and before any Grand was sent, they found out and layed waste to them before that could happen. And not something like, "This country shall bring ruin, so I shall destroy them." But more like, "I shall impede their every step, but I shall let humanity be destroyed in any aspect. War if they must, but I shall keep every country intact without exception."

@klidge

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly that is kind of Artoria Lancer Alters whole deal. She became an alter after Camlann deciding to remain human rather than become the goddess of the holy spear. So there is the possibility that this version of her goes on to slay some kind of Beast or fall into the realm of human stubbornness, which can be perceived to be a sin

@fangthefabulous1132

2 жыл бұрын

@@klidge I thought that too. But my monkey brain had simplified it before putting it into words going "Lancer Artoria Alter... But 17 on an a scale of extreme that goes from 1-10."

@williamcote4208

2 жыл бұрын

Well… there is a Saber face beast… in arcade… since Nero’s body was used

@darkstorm2579

Жыл бұрын

Well, Saber's VA also voices Fou, who used to be Beast IV.

If there were to exist a grand alter ego, I could think of Jia Baoyu, the protagonist of the Chinese novel "Dream of the Red Chamber", who lived in his own world of illusion and pleasure and reached the mystical world by dreaming, and who also had another person named Zhen Baoyu who shared his name and kind of childhood but who developed his exact opposite ideals. To mention, an important element in the novel is the mirrors. If he had a beast counterpart, it could be one representing 'double-facing'.

@darkstorm2579

Жыл бұрын

There won't be. None of the Extra classes can become Grands.

In arcade Noah appeared as the grand Rider, which is a good choice and makes sense. In LB7 a lot of people around here are asking for Santos Dummond and Dom Pedro. Also, Grand Saber should be the OG Musashi, he is known up to this day as the greatest swordsman to have ever lived. Originally I would suggest the Grand Berserker to be a viking, but I can't of anyone good enough to fit the bill, not in south america at least, but we will see.

For Grand Saber, I personally think that it is the first wielder of Excalibur that killed Sefar the white giant.

The difference of a normal servant and a grand is the same as a granade and a nuke basically

I honestly thought Merlin couldn't be a grand candidate because HES STILL ALIVE. : P

I want Ado Edem to be the Grand Saber, cause nothing screams Apex Human more than a being from the far future who can kill Types.

@anadaere6861

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah this sounds cool af ngl Like he's the peak Saber class there can ever be

Maybe the grand rider is actually Santa Claus

I have a uniqe candidate for Grand Saber. I see his name gets thrown around quite a few times. The Islamic General Khalid ibn Al Walid, the undeafeted general. He never lost a single confrotation and was given the title Sword of Allah. He was so rereved that the Caliph Umar has to demote him. So people don't overly dependt on him.

Waiting for the inevitable appearance of Grand Ruler Gilgamesh and Grand Avenger Dantes

@darkstorm2579

Жыл бұрын

Then you'll be waiting for a long time because Extra classes cannot be Grand Servants.

I like the little bit of interesting details u give even when just going over them quickly, subscribed !

Daybit's servant is most likely Grand Berserker, considering the other Crypters' summoned servants were accurate to the profiles Chaldea had on each of them. Daybit was considered likely to summon a Berserker because he communicates very little with others, and a Berserker servant would not require communication to function effectively. My personal theory is that Daybit summoned Huitzilopochtli, the Aztec sun god. While he is a god, his major myth, where he was born a full warrior who killed his sister and chased his brothers into space, would be a good justification for Berserker class. Additionally, Huitzilopochtli was a god many people were sacrificed to, and in Lostbelt 4, Daybit's servant states that life is for being offered in sacrifice and death is for being consumed.

@mathieu9236

2 жыл бұрын

Hinako as failed for her Rider and a god can't be grand servant

The Servants that hold Grand titles all seem to be mythic. Solomon and Romulus we know for sure existed, but both have been heavily changed beyond historic roots to legend. Personally I think Akenhaten, the “First Individual”, would be cool as a Grand, or even as a Beast. He was born ever before Ozy, at the peak of the Egyptian Golden Age, and tried to destroy previous Egyptian culture to make way to worship his own Sun God, he was also attempted to be erased from history. And since we don’t have any Female Grands yet, I was trying to think of one that fit the bill. The first evidence of a modern human we have is a skeleton dubbed Lucy, and I think a prehistoric human would be fascinating as a Servant, especially considering in the Nasuverse she would have lived 1400 thousand years before the Age of the Gods, which is as early as we get in Fate.

@nouveauscripter1718

2 жыл бұрын

Not that I didn't enjoy your suggestions but Lucy was a couple of steps removed from a modern human being more like an upright chimpanzee, still having an excuse to add a cavewoman into the game would be cool.

Man I love your speculations on the Grand Servants. But now I would love to see what Grand Musashi would be like.

i come from the future , Grand Rider is Noah

Don't think they'll do it but really hope grand berserker is Cain. He's the first person in history to fly off the handle and kill someone. He would also be a potential grand Assassin candidate in my opinion. Seeing how Solomon, David and Moses are all confirmed in universe makes this even more possible to happen.

@lucasbranc

2 жыл бұрын

I also thought of him, as for Grand Rider i think it will be cool if it was Noah.

@anadaere6861

2 жыл бұрын

I really liked the idea of a grand assassin Cain He did invent murder and assassination in concept Of Gramps is death incarnate, then Cain would be the master of death itself

@ScumbagKazuela

2 жыл бұрын

@@anadaere6861 its heavily implied that gramps is actually cain.

@ayaya-

2 жыл бұрын

@@ScumbagKazuela where forehead curse and 7 times damage reflect then, as cool as it would be if gramps is cain it would be also sad cause cain would be an interesting character by himself

@darkstorm2579

Жыл бұрын

@@anadaere6861 Except it's stated in canon that only King Hassan qualifies for the Grand Assassin title. Also, I'd say that calling Cain the master of death is a stretch because all he did was kill his brother. Yeah, sure it was the first recorded murder in the Christian Bible, but I'm pretty sure that was the only time he killed (plus God punished him for it). If anything, outside of certain deities, I'd say that Gramps is the true master of death because he's death incarnate. He got the drop on Ozymandias in his own palace and was stated to be more than a match for Goddess Rhongomynidad.

My favorite part is that Hassan is so much further ahead than any other assassin that only he can be grand assassin

I think that Artoria is probably Grand Saber. She is the King whose failure lead way from the Age of Gods to becoming the Age of Man. A sword that cuts a path to the future.

Speculation that the last beast is actually mother arlot aka nero and the dragon she s riding has actually something to do with elizabeth. Somehow they keep teasing nero as mother arlot but it has yet to happen. As for the elizabeth part, it may sound crazy but the last halloween (cindrella one), even though it was supposed to be a joke event did make some hint in the epilogue that elizabeth could be used for something extremly dangerous. (not elizabeth herself but her body/spirit core/saintgraph whatever you want to call it) And keep in mind this was mentionned at the end of the event by molay while she mentionned that she wasn't even the one who created the singularity so it can hardly be seen as an actual joke. Also in one scene of carnival phantasm nero is literally rising elizabeth (and the 2 mecha eli chan) in a horse war which is basically a blatant mother arlot reference.

@Pein718

2 жыл бұрын

Well mother harlot is definitely going to be in arcade's babylon. You know, after years of building up hype and dropping hints about Nero and why she goes to hell and back to avoid her true class.

they could bring out a grand rider Santa Claus due to his popularity worldwide and such since he had a historical counter-part in history as Saint Nicholas or grand rider could be Genghis and would be a lot more reasonable then Santa but hey Santa is a reasonable target I guess

@monsieurromanbedlam5101

2 жыл бұрын

Santa Claus should definitely be real and a candidate, just look at the Santa Servants we have. But what is he gonna do to a Beast? Give coal? Ain't doing much. Although, I can see him being like a super support with his presents and Christmas spirit. Imagine him pulling a Bazooka out of his sack of presents.

i hope dante alighieri writer of the divine commedy would a day become one of the grand servant, the commedy is one of the faoumos "book"of the world, it was foundamental for the creation of italian language because it was used as a model for it; It also define the structure of hell, purgatory and paradise, a servant has 3 stage, they can rappresent dante in the 3 stage of the opera, i really hope so

great vid as always! looking forward to the next one!

Thinking about it there's a possibility of the grand servant of daybitt be Sango the African God of thunder and justice (that could explain their fixation with balance) He was a god but orixás could incarnate as humans with God like powers and him of all others had the most connection with humanity being called ruler of man and showing more compassion to them than other orixás For the reason why would a African God appear on south America could be because is the place where African couture is strong and they worship yorubá religion to this day If it is him he's definitely a beserker due to some of his legends having moments like when he broke his brother's legs to the point of killing his entire family due a burst of anger

@klidge

2 жыл бұрын

That would be sick to see, but I’m not sure how the Grand system handles things like god avatars. It may be a loophole in the system or it may just be flat out not allowed. At the very least it would be cool to have him as a servant

@darkstorm2579

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@@klidge Usually it's impossible for a god to become a Grand Servant. However, if their human ties, or roots in humanity is strong enough, then it is possible for them to materialize as a Grand. That's how Romulus was able to appear as the Grand Lancer in Olympus, despite him being one of the demiurges of Rome.

I would like it noted that Tamamo should have technically been on the list of beast candidates, as Koyavich is supposed to be another one of Tamamo's 9 tails, and Tamamo has stated she would become a beast if she manifested with all 9 tails. Also on Grand Servant speculation one possible candidate for Rider comes from Abrahamic mythology with Noah and his arch that was able to hold a breeding pair of each animal, with purely aquatic species being the only debated exception. Another point for speculation to think on is Extra Classes could have a possible Grand Servant as well thanks to Angry Mango and Jeane being non FGO exclusive characters means there are bases for Extra Class Servants to be part of the normal system though extremally rare and aside from Foreigner would most likely be the Grands specifically reserved for the Counter Force.

By the way, beast of 666 mother harlot was revealed in FGO arcade. Also the grand rider was revealed to be Noah. And tamamo vitch achieved the title of beast in the Tunguska mini-lostbelt.

I have a candidate for Grand Berserker, but there is a thing, if we realize that every grand servant is oppose to its class, merlin using more excalibur than magic, hassan wearing a full plate armor instead of something less noisy, Romulus shot lasers, and orion literally punch the shit out of you intead of using a bow. Then my idea is that for a grand Berserker should be the opposite, someone who left everything to archive knowledge and wisdom without stop been the One Man Army Thats why my choose is..... The Great Sage Equal To Heaven, The One Born From The Stone, The One Who Archived Nirvana: Sun Wukong. My reasons: 1º He literally solos the entire chinese pantheon that is by far one the biggest in human history 2º We could consider him a god but in the journey to the west he spent more time with their tribe and humanity than in heaven, and the journey helped him to clear his mind and find friendship in humans and monsters 3º Come on, the guy has 72 lives because of the 72 early transformations and he is 4-5 times inmortal, if that is not a berserker nothing will be. His Staff weight 17,550 lbs and he just hide it on his ear 4º At the end of the novel he is grande Buddhahood and archive Nirvana. So basically he became one with everything and become a sage 5º He is probably the most powerful none omnipotent character in all fiction because if you are not omnipotent he can transform into anyone gaining powers and abilities, and each hair of him can do the same 6º He was born from a stone, he is basically something created by the world itself, like the counter-force create and call the grand servants 7º We know his outfit from the FGO game and if Nezha who hates him, and Xuangzan who is his master, why he is not? 8º MONKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!

@Kyle-mr9mu

2 жыл бұрын

Wukong's also my pick for grand berserker, though your first point about being the opposite of his class doesnt really apply to him. His entire story up until getting captured by the Buddha and being sent on the Journey to the West is basically just him being pissed off at the gods and waging war against them out of spite. And one extra reason that he could be Daybit's servant is the line heard about keeping the balance of life and death. Wukong literally erases the names of himself and his army out of the book of life and death, it could be that his line is him trying to redeem himself for that after he goes off with Sanzo on his path to Buddhahood.

@monsieurromanbedlam5101

2 жыл бұрын

Sun Wukong has like 2 layers(at least) of High Divinity and isn't really a god connected with Humanity, moreso connected to Sanzang. But, if we see his connection and influence on monder media and entertainment, cuz, I mean, he basically originated anime tropes. I can see that connection but if that is the case...i feel like he's gonna act like Oskabehime, which is...something that fits his trickster personalty I feel. Idk Monkey just seems enough of a troll to do it, especially the younger him before meeting Sanzang. SPOILER I also feel like, with all his power, he's wayyy too strong to be summoned, normally(even for Chaldea) and would need to be degraded from their original form enough to be summoned, like Tamammo no Mae who is a Divided Spirit of Amaterasu. Who we know is strong enough to be above Time and Space by summoning her in-the-far-far-future self. Ofc, she was still defeated by Sefar but they are comparable and I feel Sun Wukong would be comparable to her, as well.

Personally I subscribe to the idea of Noah being Grand Rider. He’s got a ship containing (supposedly) every animal on Earth. Not only is the Ark one of the most iconic vehicles in history and myth, but having the ability to ride/tame any beast sounds more than worthy of being a Grand candidate.

@darakkriess1030

2 жыл бұрын

Yh a lot of fans believe he is the best candidate for grand rider as well, myself included

@ayaya-

2 жыл бұрын

and it would also include the beasts that future riders would call their mounts, so in a way Noah was the gilgamesh to all riders

@nargacuga4597

2 жыл бұрын

@@ayaya- not all riders have an animal mount fyi lmao

@Wolfbane420

Жыл бұрын

In F/GO Arcade in Japan he is the Grand Rider and is available for summoning.

@GoldLight73

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@@Wolfbane420 Yup, made the comment before Noah came out, and needless to say I was quite gratified when he did.

Imagine the "man in the iron mask" as grand beserker

I’m making a prediction here in regards to the grand saber servant but I think it would have to be Sir William Marshal aka England’s perfect Knight. Seriously, look him up cause the dude’s life was pretty wild. He was born from a low rank in the nobility only to rise to become the most powerful man in the Kingdom. He served under 5 kings witch include Richard the lion heart and King John, you know the a-hole king from Robin Hood. He won multiple knight tournaments and fought in multiple wars, and he saved England from the invading French army at the battle of Lincoln… At the age of 70! He also helped in the founding of the Magna Carta which laid the foundation of the constitutional monarchy. If they put this absolute Unit of a Chad in the game all of the knight servants would loose their shit.

@artoriapendragon5062

2 жыл бұрын

I bet saladin is better candidate he already wiped floor with that knights king lol

@Khann_2102

2 жыл бұрын

@@artoriapendragon5062 Since We already got Richard to be canon in Fate Strange Fake, we need Saladin to be canon as well, that guy deserves some spot in Nasuverse NGL

@artoriapendragon5062

2 жыл бұрын

@@Khann_2102 yeah he is da goat

@tyryonolofing3405

2 жыл бұрын

Well ok there is also another possible grand assasin candidate, whose clear death rates - just on his direct orders - were uncomparable. He also has that specific reversion to an Hassan, since Hassan was someone, who brings you death with his own hand as a finish, this dude is someone, who enforces you to want a finishing of your life. The only trouble, that he is a little bit too modern - but FGO lore can cure it, stating that hi is known every where in the world.

@darkstorm2579

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@@tyryonolofing3405 Not possible. Only King Hassan qualifies for the Grand Assassin title. Also handing out death sentences (no matter how gruesome) is very different from literally killing someone, especially without them knowing about it. King Hassan was death incarnate. If he didn't want you to sense his presence, then you won't and before you know it, your head's sliding off your shoulders. Even Ozymandias, who's basically an Egyptian version of Gilgamesh couldn't sense Hassan even within his own palace and only survived through sheer dumb luck.

the amount of lore that has been retconned by fate here is astonishing

Loved this video! Musashi is my all time favourite servant and I would love to see a grand version of her coming back, or at least a skin and powerup :_)

This might be a little biased but I often think Arthur(Prototype) might be a candidate for the Grand Saber. He’s the more powerful wielder of Excalibur compared to Artoria along with his persistence of chasing Beast 666 even going as far as to chase it to the world Chaldea is in. Along with this, he has completely given up on the dream of Britain becoming utopia and focused his efforts of protecting and making the world a much better place and fighting for humanity. Another possible candidate might be the original wielder of Excalibur but that probably won’t be a thing until the seventh Lostbelt.

@darkstorm2579

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I think it's been said that to qualify for the Grand Saber, you have to be a wielder of Excalibur. But that's just something I heard from comments, not in any official works.

I guess you gotta update this video now. Well, at least once we get the stats and abilities of the new Grand class servant and the new Beast.

The grand rider was already shown in fgo arcade who is noah and beast 6 who is mother harlot

When you talked about Eras a few popped in my mind the ones I thought that would work one being Brutus but with Romulus their it wouldn't happen. but I also thought of George Washington since someone from the same Era as him or a forward or back a little in time could make sense, if George Washington did become one of them then he would be a rider but for all we know it could be ones each of us said or someone we have little info on

@evanolsen6925

2 жыл бұрын

Washington is part of Edison. The Presidents agreed to default to Edison if any were summoned.

@lilsmurfy8349

2 жыл бұрын

@@evanolsen6925 interesting

Awesome video as always! Unrelated rant: I wish we get at least 1 Brazilian servant in LB 7 Anyway, thanks for sharing this info! ^~^

Hannibal already exist as rider in the fate universe. He has a role in fate/requiem

I love lore related videos like this

Grand Berserker must be Cain. He is the only character who I can think of that is as well known around the world that even today people still know him. Entering a berserk state and commiting proper human history's first act of murder. Truly, there is no better candidate. ... ... Except maybe Samson.

@klidge

2 жыл бұрын

I hadn’t even thought of Samson! He’d be a great candidate!

@harrya9458

2 жыл бұрын

I like the idea of Cain, because along with Noah, it solidifies Abrahamic beliefs in humanity’s history. Two Grand Servants are from the book of Genesis, the foundation of the most prominent modern religions. You see Christianity and Muslim in practically every country. To have two characters from the book of Genesis be Grand Servants would really be a testament to the sheer influence of Abraham’s descendants in society as a whole. I like the concept of Cain as Grand Berserker

I would love for the grand rider or berserker to be Ivan the boneless or Ragnar lothbrok (their influence on the Europe is undeniable. The grand saber could be the male mushashi that is referenced in piper human history. Also I agree on Cortez fitting with Daybit

I've seen a lot of people mention the Whore of Babylon as a beast and that ties in with Nero because in we haven't even seen her a full power since her strongest class is Rider and Gawain calls her Whore of Babylon in Extra. Plus in real life, a lot of biblical mentions of the anti christ are references to Nero.

@zero123alpha6

2 жыл бұрын

Hard called out

This is my list of the grands (I don't care if no one asked for it): Grand Saber: Artoria/Arthur (pretty much confirmed) or Musashi Grand Rider: Agustus, Genghis Khan or (most likely) Noah Grand Berserker: Bödvar Bjarki, Ragnar Lodbrock or Tlahui Colotl (the bastard threw himself alone against the mexica empire with an unsharpened wooden sword and actually managed to put up a great fight)

@klidge

2 жыл бұрын

If they did Noah I bet you they’d go with his Mesopotamian counter part Utnapishtim. In hind sight, Rider Caesar is a possible candidate for sure

thanks for making the video ❤️

i was not spoiled for musashi before this video and when u said u were i didn’t think you’d actually say what happened lol

in my opinion I feel the grand berserker would be cain from the bible. Because there some version of story were cain kill’s Abel in a rage and can’t really think who would the most famous berserker then the first person to murder somebody( as the most famous story of the first murder) sadly cain is not linked to south American but I can dream

Hearing that the last losbelt gonna be about here and seeing the importance fate give it, also being the end, gives me a lot of hype, it makes sense considering the concept of fate deals with the theme of the age of the gods and the mystery of the ages, like when Arcueid says that only some weapons from here could damage it and things like that, I'm very excited. I am from Paraguay, one of the countries that preserves their pre-Hispanic language, if you need information about any topic from here, I can gladly help you.

I find it funny how a week or two after this vid was made the Grand Rider was revealed. Type moon really gut punched you here lol

I honestly think the grand berserker is a viking because thats where the word berserker comes from one idea may be ivar ragnorson because he was a crippled and was still abel to fight and make a name for himself and was in real life a king slayer and a berserker. I also think that's completely justified by the notion that berserker came from the vikings its in the same vain as how the word assasin came from king hassan and he later became the king of assasins.

Since it’s December one of the Grand Rider candidates should be Santa. Literally the most well known figure through out the entire world and has the fastest mount through out the entire world. Both he, Noah and the Khan tie as the Grand Rider candidates.

Watching this now changes things

Before I heard about the divine rule my idea was that the servant for grand berserker it would be the Aztec God of panthers and the night Tezcatlipoca mostly because he got mad enough to rain down panthers and wipe out his iteration of humanity

I think Daybit summoned the Grand Rider and who is better for that title (if we think he summoned a South American character) than Simon Bolivar, he is extremely important in South American history and he is really known for having a horse and going to fight with him (paintings of him in battle usually show him riding his horse).

@kasai-san7332

2 жыл бұрын

yeah simon bolivar did a lot of things in south america, between them leading a rebelion to free the slaves, he also was influence in the gran colombia and so on

@Amahankage2004

2 жыл бұрын

@@kasai-san7332 Cant believe i forgot bout mentioning gran colombia, he pretty much was the founding father trought we know how that ended.

@fran411

2 жыл бұрын

That's a pretty solid option, another that comes to mind for a South America grand rider is San Martín, seeing how he, along with Bolivar, was the liberator of Chile, Peru and Argentina, and a very characteristic trait is his white horse.

@Amahankage2004

2 жыл бұрын

@@fran411 San Martin is other great pic aswell, i just hope we get some South American characters.

@oceanicmage

2 жыл бұрын

was he crazy or weird? If no? then he ain't a rider, we all know all riders are either crazy, weird, or don't actually ride anything other than their master. (I'm memeing rn, dont rwoooosh me)

Just got done watching your stream and was listening to this while grind out some proof of hero. Another great video. Remember Jesus finds the joke funny.

Servants: atomic bomb. Grand servants: nuke

The list of Grand servant we know as of lostbelt 7 are… Grand Saber- Unknown Grand Berserker- Unknown Former Grand Caster- Solomon Grand Caster- Merlin Grand Assassin- King Hassan Grand Assassin- Tezcatlipoca Grand Lancer- Romulus-Quirinus Grand Archer- Super Orion Grand Rider- Noah (Extra) Grand Rider/ Caster- Taigong Wang (He self proclaim him self GC but is called GR because he summoned as Rider and he take the place in U-Olga Marie dream battle. Grand Foreigner- ORT Xibalba Hopes for Grand Saber are Sir Galahad alter, Sir Cid, William Marshal, Johannes Liechtenauer, Sigmund Ringeck, and Jan Chodkiewicz. Hopes for Grand Berserker are Sun Wukong, Hel, Ivar the Boneless,Beowulf, or Cain.

My guess is the guess everyone else has, Daybit's Grand Servant will be the Mexica (Aztec) god of Jaguars Tezcatlipoca. In the real myths he's described as a judge that rewards and punishes humans for their actions accordingly, he would even encourage us mere mortals to overcome the hardships of life and our darkest desires in order to become the best version of ourselves. This would align with how the Grand Servant acted in Lostbelt 4, thinking they had a say on the fate of the dead. And in the real myths he was treated as being basically omnipotent, dude was even stronger than all his brothers (including Quetzalcoatl) and he could do whatever the hell he wanted. He was so omnipotent that the christians thought he was TOO similar to God. This would align with the Grand Servant's description of being able to make the impossible possible. Plus he's deffinetly not an idiot, an asshole to Quetzalcoatl sure but not dumb. An another thing, Tezcatlipoca was omnipresent due to his relation with obsidian and the *SHIT* ton of stuff the Mexicas used that mineral to create, the night sky, and also the fact he represented the "darkside" or evils of humanity (more specificaly their darkest desires like lust, greed and all that jazz), a darkside the humans had to overcome to become the best versions of themselves, a darkside that because it existed in every human it by proxy meant Tezcatlipoca is inside every human that existed. And his smoking mirror showed him anything and everything, basically omniscience. My point is, it would make perfectly good sense for someone who is not an idiot, is everywhere AND has all the knowledge in the universe at his hands to make the impossible possible. And Mesoamerica is pretty close to South America. Now, before you say gods cannot become Grand Servants, the Mesoamerican gods are NOT like the other pantheons, they are alien body snatching bacteria, if an exception to the "gods cannot become Grand Servants" rule can be made then Mesoamerican gods would make the most sense for creating a loop hole. (Also, for those who are interested in Tezcatlipoca supposedly being all the evils of humanity, one his *MANY* names literally translates to "The Enemy"). But anyway what do YOU guys think? Am I wrong? Do I have the dumb?

@anadaere6861

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I'm on board with Tez being grand servant Everything about him scream "I'm gonna cause chaos" That or Cain Seriously, Cain is a great I for a servant, and I'm still disappointed they haven't touched upon him yet

For memes my prediction for Grand Saber is simply King Arthur wielding an unrestricted Excalibur.

In my opinion, Don Quixote should be the Grand Rider. It's a fictional character and a complete parody of chivalry, but his influence is massive all over the world, with all manners of interpretations of his tales. He is the representation of what really means to take a job such as cavalier, with all the morals attained to it, in a world where chivalry is a thing of the past and nobody really believes in what you are doing.

@klidge

2 жыл бұрын

I love Don Quixote and hope he appears. He would be such a fun character

@felixroldan2798

2 жыл бұрын

Porfavor no.Mejor genghis khan o moisés o utnapish

@rhazortrhazort3003

2 жыл бұрын

I mean, he could be a Grand Berserker. His most defining feature was that during his history his Dementia and Obsession with Chivalry brought him to the path he followed. His Noble Phantasm would probably be a Reality Marble that brings to life the world as he saw it, putting him as a Knight in Shining armor instead of the madman he was.

@rhazortrhazort3003

2 жыл бұрын

@@felixroldan2798 Fue confirmado que el Grand Rider es Noe, y es el Grand que ayuda en Babylonia de la version Arcade

im personally betting on the saber being the version of raikou that we were teased on long ago. Saber raikou, minamoto no yoshitsune. The most famous yokai slayer killer of the likes of tsuchigumo, shuten douji and such. If not that then it may be Tsukahara bokuden, another famous samurai who has never lost a single duel in his lifetime. He created the shinto-ryu style which was based on countering and not striking first at your enemy. the grand berserker might be bakasura the gluttonous monster appearing in the mahabharata

IMO Beowolf would have been a great Grand Berserker

I doubt it'd happen, but i think Michael would be the perfect grand Saber. Could even be a saberface.

@ayaya-

2 жыл бұрын

the angel? if so divinity is a problem, angel are basically valkyries but on mega steroids, even more with michael with his title being one of the highest in the Christian mythos

Correct me if I am wrong, but Grand servant its just a Saint graph, meaning grand servant candidates can also be summoned as regular servants, only when the requirements are fulfilled they can be summoned as grands, I say this because I remember Nasu saying Gilgamesh was the strongest servant despite not being a Grand candidate (not the archer version at least)

I think Grand Berserker might be Caine, he is the first murderer and killed his brother out of anger and envy (thats why Berserker not Assassin)

For Grand Saber, I feel it would have to be a combination of someone with incredible skill and a legendary weapon to go together. We already have a LOT of sabers that have one or the other or both: Arthur, Artoria, Musashi, Okita, etc. but the thing is, all of these have a lot of one, or are really high in both, so the GrandSaber would have to be absolutely absurd in both fields imo.

I feel like a grand seems to embody the class as a whole. Hassan the very orgin of the word assassin. Merlin, probably the first name that comes to mind when anyone thinks the word "Magic". Orion, a huntsman equal too and loved by the goddess of the bow herself. With this in mind, Grand saber, be it Arthur or otherwise, has got to wield excalibur. It's quite literally the most famous sword on planet earth, and a weapon fated to defend the world in fate lore. If that doesn't sound like Grand Saber I dunno what would.

@evanolsen6925

2 жыл бұрын

I THINK it's been said somewhere that the one that killed Velbur (Altera) wielded Excalibur. So if the Rumor that Saber's voice actor is doing the Grand Saber is correct, then it'll be Saber, but older.

Well, from what we learned in Atlantis/Olympus, there are a series of conditions that have to be met in order for a Grand Servant to be summoned. One of them is that a Beast or developed Beast Candidate must be present. If Daybit is able to summon a Grand Servant in South America, I wager that it's due to Type-Mercury being somewhere in that continent.

if they ever make grands for extra classes, then Emperor Augustus would be a great candidate for Grand Ruler.

I'm not sure how factual this is but I do remember hearing how in a interview with Nasu he said Merlin can be a beast due to how Beast class enemies have a sort of twisted love for humanity in some form. And for a being like Merlin who can't understand human embryo that well, it be interesting to see. However great video and ready to see more.

@trinity5502

2 жыл бұрын

Also I'm not too surprised you didn't bring up Buddha aka Savior from fate extra since he seems like Prime grand servant material if the situation around him wasn't confusing

Grand Berzerker: Cain brother of Abel Grand Saber: Personified Excaliber Grand Rider: Julius Ceasar

@matierk637

2 жыл бұрын

I actually think that it's not Ceasar but his adopted son who would take the title of Grand, of course I mean the first and greatest Emperor of the roman empire himself Agustus Octavian

If I recall the grand servant rider position was suppose to be Noah because I have seen a video in fgo arcade that he explain he was a grand but was hurt badly by the beast VI (Draco)