Great video gents, really nice to see both prospectives and preferences. Thanks for all the detail and good riding video.

@eevees

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching Scott!

As always, great video and review guys! I tested the S20 on your visit to Seattle and love it! It exceeded my expectations, even on that short demo. Totally agree that I instantly gained confidence, and leveled up 5 levels, lol. Can't wait for my S22!!!

@eevees

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for joining us at our demo! You’re going to love your S22. Great decision!

Great Video, once again guys, keep them coming. 👍 can't wait for my S22 to arrive.

@lukastanasiuk5722

2 жыл бұрын

We promise to keep em comin!

Thanks guys! Definitely helped me feel more confident in my decision to the s22. A lot more dirt out here in Ontario back country.

@lukastanasiuk5722

2 жыл бұрын

It is THE decision :P (in my biased opinion)

Kick-ass video you guys. Definetly helps me out. Thanks!

@lukastanasiuk5722

2 жыл бұрын

You're very welcome! :)

Extremely helpful review - especially for "most" of us, thanks guys. It will be interesting to hear back on if the tire changes and more time on the Begode wheels influences a new perspective on those wheels, but for my interest and buck, the S22 is my only interest. (74 yr old enthusiast)

@lukastanasiuk5722

2 жыл бұрын

Happy to help, Todd! You're going to LOVE the S22!

Master is very good for riding on the street, It should have a 3600wh option (134v). I'll get a S22. I think to wait for a street version with 3600wh, 134v and suspension as a third wheel. The first is the ACM2 that I bought from Marty and learned on it.

I trust the guy with the majestic long hair.

@eevees

2 жыл бұрын

Our local EUC Sensei 🙏

@lukastanasiuk5722

2 жыл бұрын

Damnit so I'm extra untrustworthy because I'm bald :/

I got through this video with a smile because the lbs-miles pop ups gave me the info I needed without making the video all numbers. I am on my fourth wheel (solowheel, airwheel, ninebot, and S18). I am in my fifties and don't want to fall like I had done in my forties. I have hit lots of unexpected holes and bumps with suspension, never fallen on the last two wheels. I think you sold me on the S22 if it ever arrives in South America. Great video.

That's what I wanted to hear! Helps give me a little more confidence in my choice while I wait. Appreciate the review guys 🤙🏼

@eevees

2 жыл бұрын

Which did you choose??

@VoltaicWanderlust

2 жыл бұрын

@@eevees I went for the S22. Just seemed like the right fit and a really forgiving wheel. Being on the larger side (6'1" & 205 lbs.), and over 40, I knew I wanted a suspension wheel. I don't need the extra speed and torque...not yet.

@thefoss721

2 жыл бұрын

Be careful about all the negative info on hot wheels like the S-22, I think some people just try and find something wrong then they call it the worst lol, this wheel is amazing I know this for sure . Can’t wait for my Eagle order! Let’s go China baby!!

@VoltaicWanderlust

2 жыл бұрын

@@thefoss721 Oh, 100%! There's definitely no shortage of haters out there. Water off a ducks back I say though. I have no doubt this is the wheel for me! 🤙🏼

@thefoss721

2 жыл бұрын

@@VoltaicWanderlust haha good to hear, some dude just tried to explain in a massive message what’s wrong with the wheel and literally everything he said was either a worry that hasn’t happened yet, or something that didn’t make any sense at all… but that’s what happens when a amazing wheel is so hyped, people split off into groups, haters, and “fanboys” which are both horrible terms but haters makes more sense lol… there is absolutely nothing wrong with being a fan especially for the most amazing suspension wheel to have come out, and with the new firmware apparently the torque/breaking/take-off is much better so I’m way too stoked now, as long as you take care of the wheel, maybe waterproof it, silicone it where dirt might want to come in, pad up the weak points, this wheel will last for years without issues, my S-18 has zero issues after 2000 miles and I’d give it another 4000 probably it’s actually built quite well, so is the Eagle :) enjoy your wheel when it makes it to ya man!

Watched to the end, what I’m getting is a trade off between better speed + torque (Master), and comfort + control (S22). Tough call... thanks for the vid.

@lukastanasiuk5722

2 жыл бұрын

I'm biased since I far prefer the S22, but I think there are even more pros to it beyond the comfort and control. A far more confidence inspiring suspension and a sexier overall build are 2 more :P

So glad I am not the only one that has this problem with the CST. Find myself often unable to force my EX.N to turn, same experience as described in the video. Thought it was just me, but perhaps a new tire...

@lukastanasiuk5722

2 жыл бұрын

You are NOT alone

Awesome video guys and a great comparison between the wheels. @16:15 how did Doug (apologies if spelled incorrectly) get two visors on his tsg helmet ??

Master is definitely my next wheel! Hyped. I actually already bought a Michelin Pilot Street 2 tire to put on it right away since I’m also not a fan of the tire they used. I appreciate your video and thoughts boys! ✌🏼

@eevees

2 жыл бұрын

Cheers Andrew! I'm curious your thoughts on that tire. I haven't had the pleasure of trying it yet.

@Impecable..

2 жыл бұрын

@@eevees just put it on my EXN, and I have to say I’m a huge fan. The turning is WAYY easier and it’s also alot less “bouncy” compared to the CST

@ToneKneeParaSocial

2 жыл бұрын

@@Impecable.. Hmm. You still have decent off road traction?

@Impecable..

2 жыл бұрын

@@ToneKneeParaSocial the off road traction is still really good; only thing I need to watch out for now is wet grass/mud since there’s no knobs for grip

@dirt.surfer

2 жыл бұрын

Oh yeah 😎 I wanna try that tire out looks like it would shred the streets

My main reason for not going on roads yet is that I feel bad for making people go around me on every street so I'm definitely looking for something faster. This review was pretty useful

I never knew these things existed until today 😳. Now I want one! Thanks 🙏🏻

@eevees

Жыл бұрын

They'll change your life!

San Antonio- Austin’s riders patiently waiting for a local eevees. The west side of the country doesn’t need an eevees there.. they have ewheels. We need you!

Where would we go to find the information on if the coil spring is better and spring rates?

I'm glad you guys gave me a little bit of confidence in my purchase of the s22. I'm not a speed freak and I want the better suspension. recently with the hype of the master I was doubting my decision

@eevees

2 жыл бұрын

Glad we could help! Both are amazing wheels but both wheels might not be for everyone. Thanks for watching!

@lukastanasiuk5722

2 жыл бұрын

im biased but i think you DEFINITELY made the right choice :P

Aghhhhhhhh I can’t freaking wait!!! Throw out some new videos guys We need some motivation as we wait for these dang wheels! My Eagle is almost in the states though so Rev rides says but yeah praying for no delays if that is possible

Is eevee planning to sell the CNC sliders for the S22? I'd be curious to know how Lukas likes the cnc sliders :)

Lukas thanks for the hook up brother. I'm trying to soak up as much as I can on the s22 and the master.. I really dont want to deal with suspension B.S but it looks like you'll have to do that on either one. BTW, can I get a tire swap before shipping?

There is no bearing seal on the Master !? It is weird i just replace the tire for a H666 on my RS19 HT (awesome tire btw) which has the same motor than the Master the C38 and i did put greases in the bearing which was clean inside a bit of dirt on the seal, but when i remove the seal he has a rubber lips around it, so i wonder why they remove this seal on the Master ?? My RS19 is the batch 4 with the LCD screen.

Good video! So excited for these! Question: I’m 250lbs. Would the S22 suspension still support me or will it just bottom out just from normal riding?

@meuconmyeuc1337

2 жыл бұрын

Is that 250 fresh outta the shower or 250 all geared up? Big difference. You can find out yourself; all you need is the max suspension and you add the weight of the wheel with your weight fully geared up. If the max suspension load is higher than your weight and the wheel combined, then you can ride it without bottoming out...on paper. The only way to know for sure is to ride it yourself and that usually mean buying it first. =8-Þ

@TechMan042

2 жыл бұрын

If not, there will be a heavier coil upgrade you could swap out for

@eevees

2 жыл бұрын

If you’re a heavy rider, I would recommend the S22 because you’ll bottom-out the suspension on the Master most likely:

@lukastanasiuk5722

2 жыл бұрын

I'm about 210 in full gear (or more) and you can see me dropping 4 stairs to flat on the S22 in our videos with no issue! I think you'll be alright :)

you have any info on difference the production models of the s22 will have compared to the pre-prod of the s20? I've tried the S20 here in Montreal and it was not that impressive. no torque and too stiff suspension.. you know if they fixed that? merci

@lukastanasiuk5722

2 жыл бұрын

The new firmware made it much torquier and the suspension just needs to be adjusted to your desires. It will never have the torque of a Master, though.

We are supporting you big time in Ontario and we should be your 3rd location. The community has spoken and we like the Bradley/Lukas combo far more than we like the greedy e-douchebags that currently dominate this region. You guys seem to have your hearts in the right place. Open in downtown Toronto (beware of North York), come on a few group rides, offer excellent repair services (beware of North York), and the e-rider community here will rally around you *fiercely* and cheer endlessly as we watch "Smartwheel" DIE A SLOW AND PAINFUL DEATH!

@lukastanasiuk5722

2 жыл бұрын

Hahahahaha oh man we gotta give you some gift of some sort for this comment :'D Gold! We may very well heed your council here ;)

@acidicjew2242

2 жыл бұрын

In Etobicoke….what MSD says all day long.

@lukastanasiuk5722

2 жыл бұрын

@@acidicjew2242 love it!

Thanks. You've convinced me to get an s22 over the master... although now I'm wondering how it compares with the new t4

Hey guys.. I got into the hobby with a Gotway MSP HT. It has been experiencing this awful scraping sound from small bumps and medium/hard turns. It'll be smooth and have little or no sound on smooth pavement.. Any thoughts on what kind of problem I have from someone who sees/repairs/opens up these things all the time?? Thanks for the vids. When I have more $$ I'll upgrade 😎

@lukastanasiuk5722

2 жыл бұрын

It'd be hard to say without having it in the shop! Could be something stuck in there, could be a slightly bent rim + an aftermarket knobby tire... these are finicky things sometimes!

I really want to spend some more time on the S20/22, but dang that sucker is wide for my short legs. Ha! These are gonna be popular wheels. Such an exciting time in EUCs.

@lukastanasiuk5722

2 жыл бұрын

Right?! What a time to be alive!

@redfoxdude

Жыл бұрын

@Atheistme I'm 5 foot 8 inches or 173cm, but I have like a 29 inch or 73.7cm inseam. I think the S22 can be reasonably comfortable for me with narrower pads at the top, as opposed to the wide stock pads.

@redfoxdude

Жыл бұрын

@Atheistme my legs are proportionally short though. Also, I think with thinner pads, it would feel pretty decent. But the only way is to try it I guess! I'm waiting to see the S22 V2 with bearing sliders, so I'll probably give it another shot then.

Eevee's , just wondering if you know the s22 s realise date. I'm hanging man just need it !!

@eevees

2 жыл бұрын

Ours are shipped to our freight forwarder so they should be ready to ship early June. We only have 2 left though then the 2nd batch will be ready in August.

Love your guys videos. Have a EX20S on pre-order may also get a Master. Currently ride a Sherman. I want the EX20S for the Sherman range with suspension. Keep up the great content.

@lukastanasiuk5722

2 жыл бұрын

EX20S? EW :P

@thelordsauron

2 жыл бұрын

I also have an EX20S on preorder. I want the range and comfort as well and I don’t think the S22 has either of those for the type of riding I do. From the very limited reviews I’ve seen people really like the suspension, west, and range on it. Haven’t heard anyone complain about the tire though. I wonder if eWheels would let me order a different one or not.

I'm with Lukas, I don't ride for speed and being on the street is actually really boring for me. Sure, riding 55mph on a curvy street would make it more exciting, but it also comes with a lot of risk that I don't need. Most of the streets that I would actually enjoy riding on here have 35mph speed limits anyway so being able to keep up with cars at 35-40mph is enough for me.

@lukastanasiuk5722

2 жыл бұрын

YA!

Love the video! Remember to keep your shutter speed at double your frame rate so probably 1/50. The talking head footage is pretty stuttery. Love the video though! Just wanted to help 💪🏼

@Jared10112

2 жыл бұрын

1/60 actually because you’re in Canada and probably shoot at 30 fps

@lukastanasiuk5722

2 жыл бұрын

I just sit there and look cute.... What are rate frames

@Jared10112

2 жыл бұрын

Bahahaha it’s the frames your camera is capturing…. It’s complicated, Kindof 😂

@lukastanasiuk5722

2 жыл бұрын

I'm no botanist, but I think I get what you're saying here.

Whatever suspension wheel begode has as a tested tryed and true wheel is my next wheel in a few years.

Hmm choices 🤔 it is a must to have a suspension for me very hard to make a choice here. What about range between the 2. I really wanna upgrade to one of these 2 wheels

@lukastanasiuk5722

2 жыл бұрын

S22 all day! wooooo

Begode needs to build a wheel around suspension to get that 130-150 mm sweet spot. Need 3600 Wh battery on this speed, especially with the way they chained the battery packs now. One pack failure is a faceplant now, same as cut off of a single pack. More reason you need Molicel P42A 21700 4200mAh 45A Battery. 45A is the highest flow of any 21700!

@lukastanasiuk5722

2 жыл бұрын

We'll get there!

@coolhawk2003

Жыл бұрын

$6666

Thank you for another great video! Love the different perspectives. At this point I'll take whichever ships first but the S-22 is more adapted to the type of riding I'm doing. 🤙🚀

@eevees

2 жыл бұрын

They’ll ship the exact same time as they’re on the same shipping container.. at least for eevee’s shipments

@thefoss721

2 жыл бұрын

Heck yeah man! Can’t wait for my wheel to make it, let’s go China!!!! Whoooo

@BRyeEUC

2 жыл бұрын

@@eevees are these litech packs or Begode packs for the Master?

@lukastanasiuk5722

2 жыл бұрын

@@BRyeEUC Begode first and then the litech later this summer

What would you compare to the 22pro for equal trail/street riding?

Excellent review, guys. So honest and straight forward. I am still team KingSong on the suspension aspect mainly due to the fact that for whatever shortcomings it my have, it possesses the superior suspension. I haven't gone faster than 61 kph on any wheel due to the fact that my roads are so bumpy and cracked anyway, hence the desire for a suspension wheel. Congrats to the winner. Couldn't have gone to a better person; I'm sure.

@lukastanasiuk5722

2 жыл бұрын

You sound like the quintessential S22 clientele. Much like me!

Getting both!

@rianholayter

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah starting to lean that way myself- I really only wanted to have two wheels though (Sherman and a suspension wheel)

@lukastanasiuk5722

2 жыл бұрын

That's the real big brain play!

Those are first run shocks on the master - well the one on my EX20 was and the issue was the same. There was an issue. They are fixed now.

@lukastanasiuk5722

2 жыл бұрын

Mehhh we switched it out to a spring suspension and played around with the other one as well and still absolute poop compared to the S22. We are going to pop a much heavier spring on it and see if it can come even within a breath of the S22 but im personally doubtful haha

@rogerunderhill4267

2 жыл бұрын

@@lukastanasiuk5722 for sure. My comment is just about the early shock version. Begode and KS designs are different. Short travel and long travel. Just different. The KS is a non linear design. I don’t know about the Begodes though.

@lukastanasiuk5722

2 жыл бұрын

@@rogerunderhill4267 I am confident the shocks will get better, but in my opinion, the Master has a lot of other things to improve before it holds a candle to the S22 :P

Lucas I very much appreciate the "BING" metric conversions. I'm usually doing math in my head half of the video.

@lukastanasiuk5722

2 жыл бұрын

I'm here for you, buddy :)

great vid, would these wheels be suitable as a first?

@lukastanasiuk5722

2 жыл бұрын

Deffffinitely not the Master, and the S22 would be a stretch, too. I'd say something more like an inmotion v11 if you're just learning and still want some suspension. We have em in stock, too!

@iitzgeo

2 жыл бұрын

@@lukastanasiuk5722 haha okay thank you for your reply. Will be coming to the shop not this but next Sunday for the EUC lesson! I'm super stoked and can't wait! I also have a lot of questions haha

@lukastanasiuk5722

2 жыл бұрын

@@iitzgeo im here for you homie, I'll be personally teaching you to ride on Sunday :)

@iitzgeo

2 жыл бұрын

@@lukastanasiuk5722 hell ya man looking forward to it!

You guys are always entertaining and you made such good points on both wheels. However I wished the S20 fire and firmware update that supposedly cured the problem were addressed. I know it's a bummer because you guys had such good times on your tour on the s20 and made so many riders happy with it, but I still feel it should be addressed.

@lukastanasiuk5722

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Mike, do you mean addressed in our videos? Because Kingsong addressed it very promptly and took the necessary action to eradicate the issue right away!

@mikeintampa250

2 жыл бұрын

@@lukastanasiuk5722 hi Lukas yes I meant addressed in your video, because I'm sure that's the number one issue on prospective buyers' minds and if KingSong remediated the problem, it would probably alleviate a lot of concern to mention it.

@lukastanasiuk5722

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikeintampa250 That's a fair point!

@mikeintampa250

2 жыл бұрын

@@lukastanasiuk5722 When are you opening in the U.S.? I bet a lot of prospective buyers, including myself, want to purchase from you in the future as a showing of gratitude for going on that tour and just for being so cool in the scene.

@lukastanasiuk5722

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikeintampa250 not soon enough! we can't share any specific dates yet but it's happening pretty soon!

If you put less air pressure in a CST tire it loses the tire leaning problem. Tada!!!!

@lukastanasiuk5722

2 жыл бұрын

I'll tell Bradley and see if it changes anything. I think he already tried that... but I think he also already changed the tire hahah

@theeucguy

2 жыл бұрын

@@lukastanasiuk5722 I run a V11 CST tire with 1.8 BAR cca 27 PSI, and its perfect grip, no problem with turning the moment i go above that you get that feeling with the CST tire. However this pressure is not for jumping on to stairs.

@mcfly_ev

2 жыл бұрын

Tires are such an inexpensive EUC accessory with such an huge impact on ride quality. I would definitely recommend getting the perfect tire for you rather than making one work with low pressure or shaving.

Whats the breath guard the guy has on his tsg at 16:20 ?

@eevees

2 жыл бұрын

He 3D printed it for less fogging up

Awesome content!! I cant wait to get my S22!! This only solidified it more!!! So excited Do you guys have safety gear preferances? I see the Leatt knee and shin guards.. what about helmets?? Downhill vs motocross vs mortorcycle? Protection jackets? Chest protection?

@lukastanasiuk5722

2 жыл бұрын

Welll OBVIOUSLY snag it on eevees.com ;) I'd suggest a Lazyrolling jacket, knee pads, TSG Pass helmet and some wrist guards. Email me at lukas@eevees.com and I can send you a lil sum'n sum'n if you get all your accessories through us ;)

@St.FighterZ

2 жыл бұрын

Bubble wrap. Lots of it. 😁

Was the ex20s you had a c30 or c38?

@eevees

2 жыл бұрын

C38

Rock-Scissors-Paper, S22 - Paper Master - Rock

@lukastanasiuk5722

2 жыл бұрын

Hahaha YUP

Speaking of the guy with the majestic long hair, who makes the anti-fog insert he’s rockin’ in the TSG Pass Pro?

@eevees

2 жыл бұрын

He 3D printed it himself I believe

@TheWheelLifeChad

2 жыл бұрын

@@eevees let him know that I have some cash with his name on it if he wants to print another one 🤣

Tht cun metal tsg is nice an am i seeing double visor mod ?.......can i get details or links?

@lukastanasiuk5722

2 жыл бұрын

top secret shit

@Ajacka916

2 жыл бұрын

@@lukastanasiuk5722 must be

Im not sure.... Should I wait for something better next year?

@eevees

2 жыл бұрын

There will always be something better next year but for the first time, I feel like EUCs have finally properly leveled up. If you have the money, I wouldn’t wait. They also hold their value quite well so you could sell and upgrade every year for not much money.

@BigBoss-gb4cx

2 жыл бұрын

@@eevees Sure, but it's better of you get that sweet spot where yearly difference won't make much of a change. Like a wouldn't want to change my phone every year. But if they make a S24 next year with more ballance, lighter weight, inside suspension and better batteries or other safety features I would want to buy it.

@lukastanasiuk5722

2 жыл бұрын

@@BigBoss-gb4cx They almost certainly will... But you'll be a whole year + without riding the best EUC currently on the market! And also, once they make that new one, the even better newer one will be just another 6 months away, and repeat and repeat haha

I wanted a s22 but every week i see someone who blew there board on the s22.... as a street rider im glad i went with the Master!

No why in hell ks should have shipped a 340 kg spring on the s22, what were they thinking??? I have to cut and shorten the top pad of ks22 I can't touch the back to help stop...

Bummer to hear you guys didn’t dig the EX20S. I have a HT one on preorder and heard it’s a really comfortable, long range wheel.

@eevees

2 жыл бұрын

We tried it with a different tire and had a much better experience. You’ll want to change the tire for sure.

@thelordsauron

2 жыл бұрын

@@eevees right on! Which tire did you guys pick? I heard eWheels is offering a Kenda 340-A as a choice for a street tire.

all those s22 and master ex20s need refinement tgey are the pioneer of what will be in the next year or 2 with the sherman max for the money the range and ride feels for heavy riders nothing beat that for now.

I went from an mten3 to the master 😅 no problem

Dang I want that master

@lukastanasiuk5722

2 жыл бұрын

dooo ittttt

Thanks for the commentary on the Master and the S22. I feel better about the order I placed with EUCO for the S22 and now have a better understanding of what to expect. While I await the new motherboard for the V12, I continue to practice riding in new areas and occasionally crashing in new areas.

@lukastanasiuk5722

2 жыл бұрын

Expect brilliance. Love EUCO!

I love the S22 suspension but it's also a huge weak point. The design is apparently not good mostly because the T-rails that the T slider is going up and down in get dirty quick which makes the suspension way less responsive for everything short of bigger drops and bumps. I'm not sure how KS will address that because they really need to but yeah I guess we'll see. I've seen and experienced it first hand.

@darkhorseeuc

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I saw Marco’s (Mad Pack) vid on that. Looks sketchy. We’re looking for the off-road king and that is potentially an Achilles heel. Jam it so full of grease that water/dirt can’t get in? Not ideal.

@Mpower31

2 жыл бұрын

@@darkhorseeuc I think supposedly king song supposed to fix it but I don't know how they're gonna do it I have an idea but I'm not sure yeah.

@lukastanasiuk5722

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely the Achilles heel right now.... and somehow STILL the best suspension wheel ever made by a massive margin :P

Do you know when they will be sending out the S22s?

@ryanpaul5768

2 жыл бұрын

Website says shipping early may. Also states less than 5 of first order available.

@erikbrollin872

2 жыл бұрын

EUCO sent out an email to S22 pre-order customers stating that there will be a potential delay of another month, after the first email stating only 2months. That would put delivery sometime in July?

@lukastanasiuk5722

2 жыл бұрын

Late May, Early June. 3 left to order for our first shipment!

@rapozo107

2 жыл бұрын

@@lukastanasiuk5722 very curious if these S22s are the same ones from the reviews or is it the newest production model? Really wanna kno before I pull the trigger on one of these.

@lukastanasiuk5722

2 жыл бұрын

@@rapozo107 man pull the hell out of the trigger. We have 3 more available for pre-order on our first shipment coming late May/early June. The ones we are riding and referencing are of course the pre-production wheels... but even these pre-prod S22's are beyond any EUC I have ever ridden... and the final production models are only going to be better!

Video starts at 6:28

dope

@lukastanasiuk5722

2 жыл бұрын

Yee

Why do you all forget that an euc is an E-BIKE... Ebikes speeds are legally limited to 40 km/h on the road???

@lukastanasiuk5722

2 жыл бұрын

Man I wish you were right and we could be classified in the same category as E-Bikes and get subsidies from the government for using green transport :P

@SolarizeYourLife

Жыл бұрын

Sure class 3 throttle with no pedaling assistant... But the shit of all these speed influencers are going to kill someone...

Climbed the hill a hundred times on the S22😜

@lukastanasiuk5722

2 жыл бұрын

At LEAST 100 times :P We were riding home and Bradley was joking about how I said 100 times and I was like 'OK fine more like 6 times but whatever'

Torn between the two. Appreciate all the info on both of them but still torn! And that V11 rider that thinks he's better than he really is?????? That's me! LOL

"best ones" That is kind of a very subjective qualification. Can you define "Best" ? Is that quality of material? Is that rad technology at expense of reliability? What is "best' the definition for you guys?

Pedal clip seems to be a problem just look at how many crashes Chance had because of it already

@lukastanasiuk5722

2 жыл бұрын

lol that's just Chance riding harder than his skillset allows :P I have ridden thousands of KM's on the S22 and scraped the pedals once.

@DeathToCockroaches

2 жыл бұрын

@@lukastanasiuk5722 To me it just seems like it's dipping too much

@lukastanasiuk5722

2 жыл бұрын

@@DeathToCockroaches I certainly don't feel it as an issue at all

@DeathToCockroaches

2 жыл бұрын

@@lukastanasiuk5722 From me it's just assumption and lately it has been so much so I'm guilty for that so yeah you're probably right

The consensus seems to be the more advanced/enthusiast riders will go for the master while the more casual rider will go for s22. I am in between and slightly more conservative so keeping my S22 order.

@lukastanasiuk5722

2 жыл бұрын

It's more like only the BEST riders will need the Master... like top 5%/ The S22 is the everymans suspension wheel :P

Getting Master.. first wheel to do it all.. high torque, high speed, decent enough suspension (ridden my friend's- feels great to me and he's already changed to kenda tire from stock cst tire.. much more stable, better for carving), easier to work on (modular design- can add extra battery packs for extended range).. beats s22 by a long shot.. all you need to do is change master cst tire to kenda.. you can't improve the s22 speed and torque.. no contest to me.. gonna get master with better litech or samsung batteries.. I'm actually used to the exact same cst tire the master comes with on my rs high torque but after trying the kenda on my friend's master it's pretty much the perfect wheel.. best suspension I've tried on any gotway wheel (my friend had an EX before and didn't like that suspension but the master suspension is really good for me)

@lukastanasiuk5722

2 жыл бұрын

Boooooooo S22 all dayyyyyyy

@justinspirational

2 жыл бұрын

@@lukastanasiuk5722 s22 is boring comparatively.. the only thing the master needs is the kenda tire.. my friend already put the kenda tire on his master and now it's a perfect all round euc.. I've ridden it with the kenda.. the master is the fastest, best torque/ acceleration euc, the suspension is great to me, the carry handle is the best in class, the minimal, modular easy to work on design is the best yet.. nothing beats it imho.. don't see anything that's better about the s22.. the suspension is supposed to be better but on trying the master suspension at the right psi I found it excellent anyway

@lukastanasiuk5722

2 жыл бұрын

@@justinspirational Hey well it sounds like you've found your wheel! No matter what I did to the suspension on the Master, it felt like a kinder surprise toy compared to the S22. The handling, the stability, the looks, the suspension, the pads, the seat. It's all exactly what I want from a wheel and to me, puts it leagues beyond what the Master can be, even with modifications. Such is the beauty of subjectivity!

wait, just got to the master wobble.. Nope! not for me! lol

😲😍👑👏👏

@lukastanasiuk5722

2 жыл бұрын

The king is here

So stoked to hear the upgrades in the new improved S-22 … which has a 20” wheel lol , so now the S-18 can be considered S-20 with the new firmware hahahaha just kidding Regardless of the names I like this positive info on the new wheel,… can’t freaking wait for my model

@lukastanasiuk5722

2 жыл бұрын

Don't get me started on that f***ng name change :/ lollll

@thefoss721

2 жыл бұрын

@@lukastanasiuk5722 yeah king song didn’t fool anyone with the name change , nobody thinks it’s because a new bumper and firmware but the added benefit is apparently pretty solid regarding torque which it needed more of , as long as thats the case without any new fires, I’ll take it! But I wonder if the added performance means there’s a even bigger chance of a over voltage/ power draw for cutouts or blown fuses to fires , I’ve been waiting 8 months since the pre order, it would be nice if she holds up upon receiving this wheel lol

@lukastanasiuk5722

2 жыл бұрын

@@thefoss721 I remain unwaveringly confident :P

It's so cool until it gets cut off at 70 kmh 😆

Gesundheit is GOOD health.

@lukastanasiuk5722

2 жыл бұрын

Damn I got got

first time I see your content, you have a high potential, but only if you do not add that much of "eagh", because it is obviously cringe. Good luck!

@eevees

2 жыл бұрын

haha thanks for watching! Don't worry, that was a one-time gag. We're cringe sometimes, but that's just us. haha

Why pay more for worse performance. Suspension isn't something you'll notice a difference on every Crack or bumps. Plus it's cheaper.

@Impecable..

2 жыл бұрын

Ya, also the S22 has a very poor slider design which adds TONS of friction, or “Stiction” in suspension terms. The sliders in the S22 are also plastic which will wear out super fast. I honestly don’t know why these guys like the s22 more; probably just because the master has a worse stock suspension and they’re too heavy for it, so it bottoms out.

@lukastanasiuk5722

2 жыл бұрын

@@Impecable.. You got it!

Fix your audio. Edit your videos. You are so knowledgeable and informative but the it’s hard to listen to you with the echo and over-talking.

S22 all the way. It rains a lot on the island. I actually ordered it right after watching this video.

@lukastanasiuk5722

2 жыл бұрын

Ayyyye! My man! It's the right choice ;)

master is the real thing kingsong is slow as fuck

@lukastanasiuk5722

2 жыл бұрын

I will fight u

Some good information but I found myself annoyed at all the unstructured conversation. I feel like I wasted far more time than needed. Planning ahead goes much further for being enjoyable.

@eevees

2 жыл бұрын

Hey, it’s our style 🤷‍♂️. Our subscribers seem to like our unscripted reviews. We can’t please everyone though.

@Rucktarn

2 жыл бұрын

@@eevees but have you even TRIED doing it scripted via teleprompter? That would be hilarious. I demand a short, scripted and monotone segment in the next episode.

@lukastanasiuk5722

2 жыл бұрын

@@Rucktarn Damn we might have to do it :|

@no1up

2 жыл бұрын

Love you eevee guys but I agree… there’s so many videos I need short and to the point. I DO watch your videos but I save them for last when I have time to get to the long winded uploads. Nothing wrong with that, your style but I’m just giving constructive criticism.

U guys on drugs??

newbalances are a bad choice for riding. I was a huge NB fan, but realized it was too wide-footed, and the heels are too high, and squishy, you dont get a tactile feel and control over the wheel. so with a wheel like the master, you get a huge benefit from a shoe with no heel height, like a simple puma. if you do, recalibrate the wheel to about 2-3 degrees tilt back, your master wobbles will be alleviated quite a bit. with no high heels, your ankles are lower to the fulcrum on the wheel. so yea ditch the dad shoe vibes. also, its not 2007 anymore, shave the mustache and neckbeard stubble please uhhg

@eevees

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Tips

@WeAreChoasIncarnate

2 жыл бұрын

Did you really just tell him to shave? Lmfao. People need to learn to keep their stupid opinions to themselves, I think it's because you used to get get punched in face.

@thelordsauron

2 жыл бұрын

@@WeAreChoasIncarnate for real?! Dude, not your hair, not your problem!

@WeAreChoasIncarnate

2 жыл бұрын

@@thelordsauron ?? I'm saying people are too comfortable insulting the most petty opinion based things. They used to get punched in the face, and while I don't condone violence, it did help some idiots learn manners.

@thelordsauron

2 жыл бұрын

@@WeAreChoasIncarnate that wasn’t directed at you brother, it was meant for the meatball who told him to shave and get different shoes. That guy needs to keep his opinion to himself.