Great tip!

@TheMusingGreg

11 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

The only product I swear by is the Mos2 !!! Which was actually designed for use in propeller airplane engines in case of an oil pressure loss to prevent engine seizure It’s a well known friction modifier

@TheMusingGreg

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the tip!

@HH-wh1xt

8 ай бұрын

How to use if one DIY can get the powder MOS2

@filiplaskovski9993

8 ай бұрын

@@HH-wh1xtyou’re better off ordering the mos2 from liquimoly as it’s got the correct amount of mos2 for an engine, to do it yourself would be difficult to know how much powered to mix with mineral oil

@GokuInstinct1

6 ай бұрын

What about their Ceratec? It's supposed to be an upgraded version that lasts 30k miles.

@filiplaskovski9993

6 ай бұрын

@@GokuInstinct1 don’t know to much about it to say man !! I know that mos2 works

Good tip! A lot of people throw away about 30% of the additives because they don't shake well and/or make the magic happen. For me, I actually retap the motor oil from the quick drain valve (ValvoMax) after circulating fresh oil. This will heat it up a little to REALLY get the last bits of Ceratec into solution and prevent me from overfilling. Overkill? Definitely, but it's not like I'm in a hurry when maintaining my car and it helps the gin go down. I always shake the fresh motor oil when doing an oil change, too. Some of the additive packages will settle out over time in new motor oil as well.

@TheMusingGreg

11 ай бұрын

Thanks for the comment! Can you elaborate a bit more on what you do? I don't quite get the retapping the motor oil, Valvomax and and heating it up bits.

@buttsexandbananapeels

11 ай бұрын

@@TheMusingGreg yup. I fill the oil to about 1/2 a quart below my final target. I drain a little out after I prime the system and check my levels through the ValvoMax. Between heat soak and operation, the oil is warmed up. I add the ceratec to that warm fresh oil in a clean 5qt container (usually pulling about a quart out), shake it all up to get it into solution (warmer fluids can hold more particles than cold fluids), move it back and forth between containers to make sure all the ceratec I am using (4% total volume per instruction) is in solution, then I add it back into the motor and fire it up to adjust final levels. Sounds like a lot of work, but it’s maybe 90sec extra work and premixes the ceratec into solution so everything doesn’t have to work as hard to get it working. It also cures better when warm.

@TheMusingGreg

11 ай бұрын

@@buttsexandbananapeels Ah gotcha! Thanks for that additional information, makes sense!

@ainttakenanyshit

9 ай бұрын

Yup.... Hell, I even shake the milk jug to stir up the cow juice. My Valvoline 5W-20 Full synthetic HM gets a good shaking too. With additives, I'll pour some oil into the additive container and shake like hell to get that last drop of good stuff out of the container - repeating a couple of times. My HEMI takes 7 quarts and my additive is poured into half of a 5 quart jug of oil to help with the mixing before pouring into my engine. Remember you need to reduce your oil fill requirement to make room for your additive. A 16 ounce additive means that my HEMI fill will be ~ 6.5 quarts of oil and a 16 ounce additive = 7 quarts....

I WAS going to use this product and as shown in this video, there is a lot settling going on there.... IF you are a daily driver you should be good to go with the engine mixing and keeping the moly in suspension, BUT, for an infrequent driver like myself - once a week, this may not be the best type product to use. The moly is a great lubricant, but, it will not protect your engine if it settles and collects in the bottom of the oil pan.... Just a thought....

@TheMusingGreg

9 ай бұрын

I wouldn't be too concerned. The product is designed to bond onto steel inside the engine, it's just that in the container there's nothing for it to bond to. And remember, this is a very concentrated additive which may have been sitting on a shelf for weeks or months with very little agitation. I don't think you'll have this problem when it's dissolved in 5-10L of engine oil that's churned around every week.

Thanks Greg your a Champ I very much trust your work and appreciate the musing. I think very highly of Moly Products and find that a little disappointing about the sludge. I swear by the "Boost and clean" and "Engine Flush" but this one...snake oil or not? Just don't want to throw money were it could be better spent on good maintenance. From memory "Project Farm' Channel tested it with limited results unfortunately. Have a Pajero as well and flush every second change keeps the oil very clean for an extended period, can barely read it on the stick. Pooh myself sometimes when I pull it out and see nothing. FYI Worth noting that I have Wired EGR Block and catch can, doing oil change @ 7- 10,000km depending on usage.

@TheMusingGreg

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Jamie, glad you're enjoying the content! The sludge isn't surprising in one sense; they say shake well and I guess if you shook it well enough for long enough it would fix it. But for most people I reckon 'shake well' might mean 'shake for 10-20 seconds' which isn't going to be close to what's needed. This video isn't looking at the efficacy of the products, though as I said to another commenter I'm also very interested in that and is actually why I originally bought the ceratec. I have this on my list but it needs a dyno to do that properly. Project Farm has done a heap of good videos, in particular the engine oils shootout. I don't remember one on this or engine flush, but I wouldn't be surprised if he's done them. I agree I don't mind spending money on products that work but I also don't want to waste money on something that does nothing. Stay tuned, and thanks for the support!

@jamiefrangos9233

Жыл бұрын

@@TheMusingGreg Project farm only covered the friction reducer, not the flush sorry Greg. Absolutely appreciate your excellent attention to detail, and information/evidence gained. Thanks Greg I'll be watching.

@TheMusingGreg

Жыл бұрын

Cool OK thanks I might check out what he's already done first - knowing his channel I'm guessing it's a lubricity test which is a useful point of reference. If he's already covered the topic well enough there's no point me repeating it.

@jamiefrangos9233

Жыл бұрын

@@TheMusingGreg Yes just the lubricity was done Greg.

After you buy it keep it for a week upside down on shelf

@TheMusingGreg

2 күн бұрын

That's a pretty good tip Andy! Thanks for sharing!

Good idea👍

@TheMusingGreg

3 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful! Please share with your friends!

I noticed the catch can hose was disconnected and factory hose installed? Is this part of your testing of with and without?

@TheMusingGreg

Жыл бұрын

Yep exactly Mike, well spotted! It's disconnected to start gunking the manifold up in preparation for the Revive test part 2.

Acreditem o MOS2 é o único que cumpre com sua promessa de redutor de atritos de todos os outros do mercado, sendo assim o melhor aditivo de óleo usado desde a segunda guerra mundial!Sua dica foi muito boa para não desperdício do MOS2!😊

@TheMusingGreg

Ай бұрын

Glad you found the video helpful! Thanks for the comment!👍

I wonder if this moly additive in any way interacts with the additive package that is in all (or nearly all) oils these days. You'd really hope they're compatible.

@TheMusingGreg

Жыл бұрын

Yeah it's a fair question. These additives always say things like "compatible with all oils", but obviously they don't know what's in each oil. I guess they must have tested it though as it could be expensive for them if it caused blockages or reactions!

The can does not say shake well before using. The Moly is in suspension that's why. It sticks to the can walls and bottom. Keep adding oil and shaking to get the most of it out.

@TheMusingGreg

7 ай бұрын

It should be that's true, but there was a lot at the bottom of the can. Adding oil and shaking is certainly what worked for me to get the rest of it out.

@zeushualde5627

3 ай бұрын

you use engine flush?

A quick question y do you penrite motor oil and liqu Moly additive y not use liqu Moly motor oil ????

@TheMusingGreg

5 ай бұрын

Hi mate, yes that's the combination I use. The main reasons I still use Penrite motor oils are that 1) I've always used Penrite and I know what container size and type to buy so it's easy to just stick to what I know, 2) Liqui Moly motor oil hasn't been available in Australia for that long so it's not crossed my radar, and 3) having looked at it now, Liqui Moly is extremely expensive, close to double the cost of Penrite which itself is an expensive oil.

Could have scraped the bottom of the can lightly with a screwdriver to loosen it up as well. Also wanted to mention I've used many friction reducing add to oil products over the last 30+ years, they were mostly off the shelf products. The only product that I found that truly worked / works well is Petro Tech 2000. Quite remarkable & quite noticeable results. Most noticeable was the increase in power & reduced noise of noisy gearbox & wheel bearings.

@TheMusingGreg

Жыл бұрын

Yes that might have worked too. Never heard of that product but I'll see if I can get hold of some.

@04rodeorider75

Жыл бұрын

@@TheMusingGreg Can be found on gumtree Australia at Mayfield East NSW, with the FPC / FTC CONCENTRATE & also RMI-25. All the world's number 1 products for decades, that work as claimed, & still nothing today comes close to them.

@TheMusingGreg

Жыл бұрын

OK thanks. Odd that they're so little heard of and hard to get hold of if they work so well. You would imagine they'd be more readily available than Gumtree. Though I know the original Slick 50 (xcelplus) is hard to get hold of these days too.

@OhSoddit

6 ай бұрын

BEST one I've ever found is (the ORIGINAL) Slick 50 (now sold as Xcelplus). Treated my 1992 Subaru Brumby (bought new) after being run in. It WORKS. (ps, it's a "once off" / lifetime treatment, not an additive). Takes a while (full oil change duration) to bed in, but once it does - WOW. 2 things become glaring: startup - much quicker and easier, and it revs HIGH for the first second or so until the oil circulates and calms things down. The second is heat - it takes a LONG time for the engine to warm up. This is actually a drawback in the winter cold, I had to run the car at least 10 mins before I could start to defrost the windscreen (negating fuel savings from a more efficient engine!). Sold it after 16 years with 330,000 kms on it - still didn't use any oil and had never had a failure of any sort. I regret NOT treating the Holden VZ Commodore I replaced it with - at only 220,000 kms it has reduced performance, timing chain stretch, and burns 1.5 litres oil per 1,000 kms. Oh, the real kicker? A mechanic told me what a great engine the Brumby's had - you could get "up to" 200,000 kms before needing an engine rebuild :)

@04rodeorider75

6 ай бұрын

@@OhSoddit Petro Tech 2000 was the real original, even before Bishop's Slick 50. The Petro Tech 2000 is even better & withstands temp up to 2400 C. Around since 1972. Can be found on gumtree Australia at Mayfield East NSW. Almost sold out. The maker has retired & there'll be no more avail soon.

Is it safe to add Liqui Molly MOS2 200ml to the oil? that makes 200ml extra.. !

@TheMusingGreg

11 күн бұрын

200ml over the full line isn't very much and I wouldn't be worried about adding it now if the oil level is up to the full line on on the dipstick. But if you're concerned just wait until the engine has burnt a bit of oil and then add the product.

But the question is, does it work?

@TheMusingGreg

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I'm very interested in this too and have been for a long time. Unfortunately there are so many variations in normal driving conditions that the only fair way to test that objectively is with a dyno and a vehicle which hasn't recently had a product like this through it. I'm hoping to line this up in the future but it'll take a bit of organising

Just put the container in hot water for awhile, shake and pour

@TheMusingGreg

Жыл бұрын

Yep that would probably do it too.

I’m going to use this on my next oil change coming up… 277k miles, 2006 GS430… Also speak slower in your next video. Thanks for the upload!

@TheMusingGreg

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the tip, sorry hope it wasn't too hard to understand!

@Apegabe

Жыл бұрын

@@TheMusingGreg I understood just fine as I’m a native English speaker. (American) but perhaps for your other viewers!

@TheMusingGreg

Жыл бұрын

@@Apegabe Thanks mate. I actually have a tendency to speak fast when I'm trying to work out what to say on the spot, which is one reason I usually narrate my longer videos from a script where I can get everything right beforehand and then take my time. I guess this is the raw version! 😄

Is Ceratec a better product that does the same thing?

@TheMusingGreg

6 ай бұрын

Supposedly, yes. Ceratec claims to last longer - 50,000kms vs next oil change. And ceramic may be a better additive than Molybdenum. But it's also more expensive. So whether it's better value depends if your can get it for less than about 3x the price.

@GokuInstinct1

6 ай бұрын

@@TheMusingGreg I got it for $27 USD. I change my oil every 5k miles so that would be worth it since Ceratec lasts 30k miles. That’s 6 oil changes and would cost me $51 worth of MoS2.

@TheMusingGreg

6 ай бұрын

@@GokuInstinct1 Yep it's worth it for that price! Note that the 50k (not 60k sorry, there is conflicting information from Liqui Moly) service life of Ceratec is based on 5L of oil, so for a bigger engine you'd need more than one bottle of Ceratec.

@GokuInstinct1

6 ай бұрын

@@TheMusingGreg yea I did look at that and my engine uses 6.8 quarts of oil. I’d have to take that into account but honestly I’d be fine going 30k between using the product since I maintain the car well and it’s a reliable Lexus.

@TheMusingGreg

6 ай бұрын

@@GokuInstinct1 Yep sounds like a plan mate! Hope it works well for you! Just make sure to give it a good old shake before use to get all that ceramic goodness into the donk!

I use the stuff. I don't worry that a few milliliters remain in the can.

@TheMusingGreg

Жыл бұрын

It depends Mike. If it's all nicely mixed up, then I'm not worried about a few ml either. But you might have poured mainly the carrier fluid into the engine and left all the friction reducer at the bottom of the can!

@mikequinlan3308

Жыл бұрын

@@TheMusingGreg I shake the can before. Still whenever I have used it, it has always seemed well mixed with no sign of seperation. Great stuff.

@TheMusingGreg

Жыл бұрын

Fair enough. Maybe mine had been sitting for a while but there was a lot of sediment in the bottom of mine. That said I just added some more Ceratec to mine and I didn't have as much of an issue

Funny, I bought a can and I haven’t used it yet

@TheMusingGreg

Жыл бұрын

In that case great timing for watching the video! If I hadn't stumbled across this myself, there's a good chance half the product would have gone straight in the bin!

@gregorycoogle7621

Жыл бұрын

@@TheMusingGreg Thanks for your video. I’ll make sure not to waste any leftovers in the can! Greg, you’re the best ! 😉 We’re not gonna let that sludge get us! Best regards, Greg C.

@gregorycoogle7621

Жыл бұрын

I think the German stuff works great. I bought mines Amazon. I’ll know more when I try it! 😆

@TheMusingGreg

Жыл бұрын

Haha! :D Cheers mate!

@TheMusingGreg

Жыл бұрын

Yeah Liqui-Moly's holding up well in the various tests I've done so far that's for sure! I'd like to do an objective test of a friction reducer at some stage.

And he started when alone as a teenage boy?

@TheMusingGreg

3 ай бұрын

Sorry? 🤔🤷