I am just sharing my experience with propping heavy fiberglass boats. In my experience you need a large diameter and large bladed prop for heavier boats. I have spent a lot of time researching this subject, and a lot of money on propellers propping heavier fiberglass boats like yours. Typically when you go down in pitch your want your diameter to increase, and your size of your blades to increase. You went down in diameter and down in the size of the blades on your new prop. You really need something similar to a Turning Point Mach 3 OS 15.6” X 13 pitch propeller. This is a large diameter and large bladed propeller. You would be amazed at the difference a large diameter and large bladed prop will make in your boat. Yamaha outboards run their best at the top end of the high rpm range. You need to be running closer to 5800-6000 at WOT. I would also suggest you calculate your propeller slip at 3000 rpm, 4000 rpm, 5000 rpm, and WOT rpm. Your prop slip equates to fuel economy. I went from 18% prop slip down to 7% prop slip at WOT going with a larger diameter and larger bladed prop and reducing my pitch by 2 inches. I also increased my top end speed, because less prop slip equals better fuel economy and more propeller travel through the water for each revolution of the propeller. The new smaller diameter and smaller bladed propeller you have will spin up quicker, but it lacks the thrust you need on your heavier boat. One of the reasons your four bladed propeller did not do so great was because you don’t need stern lift on your boat since you have a lot of weight towards the front of your boat. You need more bow lift which you have found you get more with a 3 bladed prop. I am only sharing my experience to help you, and I am not affiliated with any propeller company or marine dealer. I am a private boat owner who has spent a lot of time and money on properly propping my boats. I could write much more about this subject, but I don’t want the comment to be so large. I wish you all the best in propping your boat.

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for your awesome knowledge Captain I really appreciate it and the reason I didn't get a smaller pitch is because they don't have a smaller pitch 14 is the smallest and 14 and 1/4 is the only diameter that I could find out there I looked a lot Honda website and did not find anything this is the closest I can get and I only went down on diameter quarter of an inch which is not that much I was at 14 1/2 and I went down 14 and a quarter but I do understand what you talking about slippage at lower RPMs I do feel like it's slipping a little bit at 3000 RPMs but soon I'll give it a sea trial and see how it performs at sea but so far I raise my RPMs wish the engine is struggling less I hope I get this right soon the only bad thing is I have a collection of new propellers LOL. Again Captain thank you so much for sharing your knowledge means a lot to me👍👍⚓

Didn't know that a Minn-Kota could push around a relatively heavy boat like yours so well. 400lb seems like a lot of extra weight to carry around, like having 2 of your best beer drinking buddies with you all the time. Nice that you got the main engine running within specs fairly easily. Hopefully all of your extra work pays for itself in more fish caught.

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

Good point! point cap, i just leave my friends at the dock lol

Hey Capt. I’d do a couple things next to get the a better hole shot and get over 2.2 miles per gallon when on plane. - install bigger trim tab plates. - install the Bennett auto trim pro. It helps to deploy the trim tabs automatically to assist getting on plane and to auto shift port-starboard stability.. - replace engine with a Yam 250 v6 / sell your 200 - re prop as needed. You are not weighted enough for sea conditions and another person with their gear... always good to see your talent and growth of your channel Merry Christmas Cheers J.

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Captain for your great advice and definitely I will put that into consideration for the future to purchase a V6 225 horsepower engine that's the max of my transom and thank you for watching captain and being part of my channel👍👍⚓

I would recommend if not done already. I have Bennett trim tab/plate, I replaced my trim plates with the same size (span and chord) with 3 inch down is fins instead of standard 1 inch down fins, The down fins help channelize the water flowing under the trim plates in turn help left the boat aft for faster plaining. This helps when the boat is fully loaded and reduces fuel use to plain the boat.

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the tips! and yes i have them it came with the boat and they help a lot cap👍

Merry Christmas Captain! May your seas be smooth and your skies be clear for the new year! By the way, how you put the pin in the prop without being able to see it is magic!

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

What Pin???Lol i edited that part. Thanks for watching cap. 💪👍👍

It's not the weight of the trolling motor stuff: it is all the fish you catch !! Looking good captain. Love your tow truck !!

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

Lol yes all the fish i like that cap.😁👍👍⚓💪💪

Capt. Consider one 36v 50AH battery Li Ion battery. You’ll save the weight of two of your flooded lead acid 12v batteries. That will prob be close to 80 or 90 pounds. You can use an alloy battery tray as well and remove a lot of that 1” starboard. Also why did you anchor when you cold have spot locked with the new Minn Kota?? Your bigger flatter wheel is a trade off in hole shot to get on plane with your old wheel. That’s going to be the biggest fuel deficit creator. Not sure why you’re running at the top 25% power band on that Yamaha … it would be better at a constant 4500 to 4800 rpm. Check the performance bulletin on Yamaha Outboards for your motor to see that. Lastly that whale tale on your motor is a lot of water drag. But if you’re happy I’m happy. PS burger looked great. Tight lines and calm seas.

@OutOnTheReef

4 ай бұрын

Excellent points, captain, but in my case, my boat is a little different. And it helps on the whale tail. On lowering the bow. And so is the trim taps. They create a lot of drag, but they need to be used at 1 point of navigation so it's all about what you need while moving on the ocean, captain. And for the main quota, you definitely need a 100 amp batteries. So that way, that last year a little while 50 amps is not enough.

I'm running the same engine on the same boat, but no where near as many add ons (yet 😉). Thanks for the tip!

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

I got about eight hundred pounds on add-ons captain I am to my Max right now I think I have to do some personal weight LOL

Great video really shows the difference pitch makes

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Andrew I try to make the best video so you guys can see how it really works thank you for watching

Sheesh didn't realize how much weight was added. Thanks for sharing. I only have a 150 hp engine so I dont think I have the power to add this. Especially because I tend to put 4 people on my boat. Thanks again for sharing captain and merry christmas

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

Anytime feeder and I'm glad you found this video helpful especially if you're going to be fishing with four people on board I definitely don't recommend it for a 150 hp motor Unless if you get very expensive batteries that don't weigh hardly anything that's another option for you but they are so expensive that they will cost more than the Minn Kota itself. Thanks for watching captain and always navigate safe

Great video any other person would have been selling the boat already!! But you only have solutions !!

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the view, i always have hope to keep my Crooked PilotHouse afloat i guess I'm a little nuts lol😁👍👍

Great video! Thanks for sharing. Just a thought on your batteries. I am doing the exact same thing with my trolling motor but I will be using Battle Born lifepo4 batteries. 30lbs per battery, no voltage sag and more amp hours. They are expensive but will pay for themselves in short time. I’ve only seen a few of your videos so you may have done something like this already.

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info! cap but they are so expensive , i paid for mine $500 for 3 batteries the lighter batteries are more like $3000. i don't have that in my budget but great idea cap if you have the budget for it is a better option.

Merry Christmas Capt, thanks for the informative video..

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Stefan and thank you for being an awesome view of my channel captain👍👍⚓

Merry Christmas 🎅. I remember you needed a lower pitch from your sea trial so it's all good 👍

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Captain and yes especially now with the Minn Kota 400lb added to the boat now the boat feels a lot less strain

Hey Capt. Just saw a video of an off the grid type of solar setup...he had 100 amp. Hr. 12 volt Lithium Batteries " Battle Born". They only weigh 29 lbs. each but are ridiculously expensive. Like $1,000 each. Minnkota's chargers don't have lithium as an option. Looks like you could save a couple hundred lbs. with a different charger...if money isn't a concern. Merry Christmas!

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

thank you cap. that is a awesome option but it is very expensive , i paid $ 450 for 3 of my batteries and they last about 4 to 5years and the lithium $3000 wow that is a lot but is a great option cap. thanks for watching

Merry Christmas Captain from Illinois. 🎄

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Captain for being a viewer of my channel⚓⚓⚓

Great info captain 👍🏾

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful! and the good thing you already had your batteries and you have yours in the perfect location cap.

That is also why I always recommend to get the maximum amount of power that the manufacturer allows because we usually always add weight to our boats (versus taking it away). Merry Christmas!!

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

Yes i agree we allways adding extra weight

Merry christmas cap Great video watching you having lunch on the lake is making me think i should take my down the river and having a picnic on a sandbar some afternoon. Thank you for inspiration. What went wrong with the windlass

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

thank you captain, and yes cap get out there and enjoy the outdoors , and i have a video coming up soon about what happened to the windlass , it was a easy fix cap, lost power👍👍

Lithium batteries are expensive but extremely light Dakota is a great brand 10 year warranty. (Also if your a creator sometimes they will partner with you I suggest you email them)

@panamacitybeachbum

3 жыл бұрын

I just purchased a 36v Dakota Lithium 63 ah with charger for $1349.00. Weight is 59 lbs. Will ship out on 31 December.

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks cap. And thanks for the awesome suggestion that a great option

@nicholasfano7929

3 жыл бұрын

Dakota does not have built in Bluetooth? To me, huge factor. Lithium prices R dropping like a lead balloon.

@edwinlaing9834

2 жыл бұрын

@nate yup they are expensive but totally worth the money i got two dakotas man i love them. Incredible light and powerful

Merry Christmas Captain!!!

@OutOnTheReef

2 жыл бұрын

thank you

PowerTech! makes good propellers. The new prop got you on plane quicker, and the rpms are within recommended OEM range. Good deal.

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Captain and yes I talk to a representative from the company and he gave me great pointers I think it's the right choice like you said Captain thank you👍👍⚓

Love that burger. You my friend know how to go fishing.

Hi Capt... Merry Christmas!... I'm amazed that you can change your prop without getting in the water. I can't reach mine from the Armstrong bracket. I guess the transom mounted engine and your boarding ladder platform has a nice advantage for that... Did you need to use a block of wood to jamb the prop to get it off?... I love the drone shots too!

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Captain and yes the transom like yours extends the engines too much so you won't be able to reach it but in my case is very close to the ladder and yes you're right the ladder makes it very convenient to change the propeller.

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

And I did not need a block of wood to move the propeller is tight but not that type that I'm able to remove it just with a tool and now Captain I have met my maximum capacity on weight I think I have to lose a couple of pounds to make it work LOL

@andrewfyakim525

3 жыл бұрын

@@OutOnTheReef Yes!, You have made so many improvements that the boat is getting heavier! If you keep adding gear, you will be needing what the famous saying from the movie Jaws said, "Were gonna need a bigger boat!" ☺

Also Capt, if U tilt motor up some while underway, U can get RPM up when running WOT. I suspect RPM will max out around 57/58 RPM. Perfect top RPM per Yamaha range.

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Captain and yes if I raise the engine up a little bit I'll gain at least a hundred to two hundred RPMs the reason I did it all the way down that's because Yamaha recommends to do the test that way but yes once I erase the tilt on the engine I'll gain about a hundred to two hundred RPMs and the fuel economy goes up and thank you for the great suggestion captain👍👍⚓

Cool boat!

@OutOnTheReef

2 жыл бұрын

thanks Terry👍👍😉⚓

Captain move the locking part that adjust the height all the way to the front when not using it. It prevents it from moving more. Merry Christmas

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

Awesome thanks cap.

14 to 14 pitch look comfort in ur boat capt.and perfect with Bacon

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

Lol everything goes good with bacon and yes that is a great size propeller I agree with your captain👍👍

Great video as always! Question: What happen to the windless ?

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

Good question! it was electrical , in the next video i will show you very fast fix cap, thanks for asking

interesting test ,thanks

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Captain for watching👍👍

Merry Xmas Captain. What's the name of the lake for your test. Great informative videos that are extremely helpful. Keep up the good work and safe travels.

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

The name is lake tohokapila it's full of weeds so it's very hard to navigate

Great video

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it cap. thanks for watching.

Capt, it's been a while since you've installed your minnkota, can you give us an update of pros/cons? What would you do different?

@OutOnTheReef

Жыл бұрын

Hello cap . The only thing i would done at the begging was to get lithium batteries instead of the ones i got at the begging, if you look at me batteries replacement video of my batteries your will see why, But that's the only thing I wanted done different captain all of them that everything works a 100%👍🛥

I would bet that hydroplane is robbing you of rpm’s, top end and fuel economy. That has been my experience both times I tried one. Also, I’ve never heard you mention using your trim tabs. I have way smaller trim tabs than what you have and they work wonders at leveling and trimming my boat. I think our boats are close in length and width but yours has a lot more weight foreword. Also Mine has over 17” of deadrise which is pretty steep.

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

he llo cap and i doo use the trim taps and they help a little as far as the hydrofoil id did not made a difference with my rpm cap.

Adding more trim will also raise rpm. Also better fuel economy

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

Yes I agree with you 100% the reason I had to trim all the way down is because Yamaha recommends you to test your RPMs that way but yeah usually I have my motor trimmed up a little bit and thank you for the great advice captain👍👍

Merry Christmas to you both. I just love your adventures.

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Paul for being an awesome view of my channel👍👍

@paulstocks9719

3 жыл бұрын

Blessings and be safe Captain.

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

@@paulstocks9719 call you're awesome buddy

@paulstocks9719

3 жыл бұрын

@@OutOnTheReef Awesome videos Captain. Truly entertaining. Got me captivated in the early hours of the morning here in the uk. Usually around 3 am. Love the Bimini trips. It's one for my holiday wish list.

Great idea capt with 14inch....

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks cap. And yes i think so too my engine sounds less struggling 👍👍⚓have a great day cap.

Hello. have a good job. it is good to yami engine. recommedation of full throttle rpm is may be 5,500 rpm. it is great deal. :-) have a nice day.

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

Hello cap. Thanks for letting me know, i call Yamaha outboard and they told me the same thing👍 Have a awesome night cap.

Feliz Navidad hermano 🎄

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

Gracias por ver mi canal cap

She is a hair underpowered Parker is always does it !! Merry Christmas Capt

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks . And yes you are right, and they sell this boats with option of a 150 Hp Yamaha that is very low power, i think the best engine for this boat is a 225hp.

@killakali9845

3 жыл бұрын

@@OutOnTheReef I have the same trolling motor with lithium battery no problems. I told you that you need the lithium batteries. You save 200lb of weight. You also need to use a 4 blade prop and raise the motor up. I have a defiance 250 ex just like a parker. I have alot of experience with these type of boats. Get on plain if your whale tail isn't skimming across the top of the water you are to low. Move the motor up two holes. Contact me if you need more info i would have no problem walking you threw the process.

@thisismyalt9010

3 жыл бұрын

@@OutOnTheReef Some transom surgery a bracket and twin 150 or better yet 175s.

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

@@thisismyalt9010 that is a great idea but since I have a open transom I don't think a platform will fit back there because my transom is open for the outboard

@Intoxacajun

4 ай бұрын

@@OutOnTheReefLove your Trolling motor install videos. I have been looking at a trolling motor setup with a bow rail boat. I know this video is a few years old but If you still have the same motor you may look at someone reprogramming your motor for more HP. In my area there is someone who does this for people with good results and it adds around 15% HP. Many of the larger motors are the same block with different tuning for the different HP's. It would void your warranty if motor still under warranty.

you should look at getting lithium batteries if you are concerned about weight.. 28-30 lbs per gr 31 size lithium compared to 70-80 lbs lead acid per battery.. other plus side is you get more run time out of lithium being able to run the battery empty compared to lead acid where in reality only get half drained before your dead in the water.

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

I have AGM batteries and they are a good quality and I only paid $ 450 bucks for 3 100-amp each the batteries that you telling me about , will cost me close to $3,000 I'm only going to save about 90 to 100 lb Not a huge difference on weight current the amount of money im spending will be $2,600 more for the batteries to save 90 to 100-lb I know it's an improvement but is a lot of money just to cut down on little bit of weight but I see your point you reduce a little bit more thanks for your recommendation captain👍👍

Damm I was enjoying your video and must now eat because of that burger you cooked

@OutOnTheReef

10 ай бұрын

lol my bad cap 😁😉👍 thanks for watching cap.

Happy holiday capt

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Morris and have a beautiful day and for being part of my channel

,,,GOOD ONE, STAY SAFE AND HAVE A MERRY CHRISTMAS,,

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching cap.

You always test a new prop all the way in to launch then slowly increase trim until you porpoise or lose mph.

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

thanks for your comment cap.👍👍⚓

Colesterol is happy with your progress!:)

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

LOL I think so too!😉👌

Assume the trailer is OEM built to boat builders specifications? If not, at what point do you start to worry about hull deformation secondary to improperly located hull support during road towing operations with a heavier and fully loaded boat?

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

this trailer was custom to the boat cap. so it fits like a glove, thanks for the heads up👍⚓⚓

@crowflight3988

3 жыл бұрын

@@OutOnTheReef go to minute 4 ;) kzread.info/dash/bejne/l4tmwdRwf6mvqZs.html

Hey Captain, Just wondering, did you ever find a good solution for your door lock?

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

yes i order a new one and soon will be delivered to me , if it works i will show you a video cap.👍⚓

Good choice going from Solas to Powertech. Solas has a very low performance rating in the prop world while powertech is considered one of the leaders. Which model did you buy? I’m running an SCD3-17 on my Cape Horn 17 (Yamaha f115) and I can hit 6100 rpm and 39.5 mph with a full fishing load.

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

thanks cap . i purchased the PTZ3R14p is the smalless they have in your rpm CAse i think you need to bring your RPM down a little like 5700 to 5800 maybe increasing 2 pitch , thanks for your input cap. and navigate safe cap.👍👍⚓

@tdfsu1

3 жыл бұрын

@@OutOnTheReef I’m actually going to drop down to 16” pitch but go to a Mercury vengeance which is a cupped round ear prop similar to the powertech PTR series. That should drop me down to around 5800 but bump my top end speed to around 41-42. Most importantly, however, is it will provide me with much needed grip. The SCD series I’m running now is a semi-clever prop with high slip. It’s super easy for my engine to turn, but also blows out easily and I have to have a heavy hand on the trim tabs to control proposing because of it. Finding the right prop, as you have figured out, is half science and half voodoo. 🤣

Little smaller. It would be nice to get at least 57-58 rpm and best case you can get 6000

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

great idea cap thanks😉👍

I highly recommend you sell/trade your current motor and upgrade to the your max Hp 225/250 rating of the boat which is V6 not the I4 you have on your boat your weight is maxed out loaded. So what you need more cubic inch engine displacement. The props are just band aiding the issue.

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

I think you're right captain but those engines are so expensive right now And how do you recommend me to sell mine

@John-bx6ed

3 жыл бұрын

I be would post a picture and info at the local marinas ,boat bait shops, west marine by your area east coast west coast and online is offer up, boat trader, Craigslist etc. Be sure to mention great condition,low hours ,maintenance records.

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

@@John-bx6ed great idea John thanks for the info cap👍👍👍☕

Seems that the new prop helped on getting onto plane. No doubt your boat is heavy, for its size, but that 200 should be fine. You’re within specs too. I sure enjoy your videos, Captain. I just purchased a 23 Grady White and plan on doing a lot of the same mods. Certainly autopilot and radar. Air condition and Generator too. I wish you and your family a Very Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Captain and 23 ft Grady White God is an awesome boat and making those mods will make you both feel like home captain you will love it and yes I agree with you the RPMs are within specs and now I just got to be very careful not to add any extra weight to the boat. Thanks for your great comment captain and also for being part of my channel👍👍👍⚓

Just a note to all the subscribers . . . we all love to watching the Captain's trips especially for those of us in the colder climates that can't use our boats for another 5 months or so. I'm sure most have watched his vid on how he collects a little from Amazon to fund his trips. I for one, simply click on one of his product links (use anyone it does not matter) then I go to the item that is brought up in the search bar in Amazon and delete it and then either search or enter the item I'm buying. As example I purchased my 85 inch Sony TV a few weeks ago for $2,000 using his Amazon product links. It did not cost me anything to do this and it helps to fund his trips. Even the small $10 orders ALL ADD UP. So let's try and throw the Captain a bone from time to time and if you are entering any orders on Amazon go to one of his vids, click on a blue product link and then change the item in the search bar to "what ever" you were going to buy. I think he also gets credit for any orders entered over the next 24 hours. So my TV probably netted him a $40 commission. What did it cost me... ZERO ZERO ZERO! Please enter a few orders when you can for the Captain to keep him going out on his trips for us to watch. At least he's upfront about ho he gets paid. Most of these other KZread vids are sneaky trying to use their product links, but they never tell you Amazon is compensating them! Here is his vid again on how he gets a few bucks for gas etc for his trips and P.S. . . . disclaimer: I am no relation to the Captain, I'm just an avid and appreciative watcher of trip vids, cooking and installation vids . . . kzread.info/dash/bejne/f6iKsZKEiM_Jl6g.html

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Paul you are awesome viewer of my channel and your support is greatly appreciated, very little people out there like you cap. Hopefully other would like to join your great supporting spirit 👍👍👍⚓😃👋and thanks for your great comment. 🤗

The sales people at the marina did you no favors for sure. The Yamaha 200 hp is really about 180, it’s just a beefed up 150 that is still a V4. To get the best power you need a V6, upgrading to the SHO 200 would give you that extra power you need while keeping the efficiency. Good Luck!

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

I like your suggestion cap. Im thinking the same ,thanks👍👍⚓

1 pinch low made 200 RPM high. Nice pictures from Drone, Cap I see U on the Water.

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Captain and yes I'll see you in the water navigate safe😉👍

When you start to talk about reducing the beer you take to compensate for the added weight.....it's time for a bigger boat...🍻😁

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

I thinks so too but for now the Crooked pilothouse will have to doo👍👍⚓

Love the videos......But how much stuff are you going to cram on this boat.....? I think its time to go bigger....!

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

LOL I think I have met my Max right now as a matter of fact I think I have to take a couple little items off like the fire extinguisher to cut down on white LOL. But I think once I get my first 100000 thousand subscribers I think it will be time to move on to something bigger😁⚓⚓

@AKEntertainmentNY

3 жыл бұрын

@@OutOnTheReef YEP.....I just bought the same exact boat and have been watching all of your videos, and all I keep thinking is.....He's eventually going to run out of room, and there is going to be nothing left to upgrade...LOL. You're turning your little boat into an RV on the water. People say that once you reach a certain point with your boat there is nowhere to go but bigger. But good for you for using it as much as you do...!

Did you check out the zipwake trim tab system? I think it would work very well on your boat.

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

yes i seen them, but for now i think this propeller will do the job cap, thanks for the suggestion cap.👍👍

@taniatait1791

3 жыл бұрын

@@OutOnTheReef I’ve been going through the same process with my boat (24ft pilot house weighing over 2 tonnes with a 225 2 stroke v6) very similar experience and timeline as yours. I added 2 big batteries, generator and quite a bit of other stuff. I tried a 4 blade 17 then a 4 blade 15 wasn’t really much good after seeing your experience I put a 3 blade 18 with smaller diameter the real difference came by raising my engine but its a different set up from yours in that I have an outboard pod so the prop is about 4 foot from the transom and its light and day difference I’m getting 38mph now when i could only get 30 mph with the 4 blade 17 and 25mph with the 4 blade 15 and yes i did lots of hanging off the back changing props it was driving me nuts. Mines very heavy but the 3 blade works far better which is the direct opposite of what information the so called pros advise re:4 blades being better for heavy particularly stern heavy ones, SO THANKS after seeing your vid i put the 3 blade on very happy now. Still conditions change quickly and having to constantly adjust the trim tabs is annoying and slow to react those zipwakes are automatic (they use very sophisticated sensors to evaluate pitch and roll and automatically and very quickly correct the boat for optimal performance) and they are very quick (like ten times as fast as conventional trim tabs) however they do cost a bit but they are light years ahead of conventional trim tabs which are slow and manual based. I love your video’s your so similar to me love improving and getting things right on the boat and just love being out in the ocean catching the odd fish for the table doing a bit of spearfishing getting crayfish/lobster. Your wife seems like mine too she comes out about 30% of the time but she likes when she has a rest from cleaning and cooking so a cruise or resort type holiday is what she loves and you gotta keep your mrs happy but i find those a bit vanilla I’m much happier out in the boat having an adventure and at one with the sea captain of my own boat. Anyway happy new year good man!.

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

@@taniatait1791 yes captain do trim tabs a lot better and you're right and yes there are very expensive especially that I already have mine installed from Factory. Yes we both have the same problem by having a boat that we add a lot of weight to be comfortable on them a lot of people don't understand that, but we make it our home. And yes Captain we are all learning as we go and is very expensive especially when we have to buy propellers I am in my fourth propeller already celebrity spent over $1,000 in propellers. Thank you for being awesome viewer my channel and we'll keep in touch Captain have a great weekend and navigate safe cap. ⚓⚓👍

Do U find that the boat lists, or tilts, to port/left side since U installed TM?

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

Ashley what it did was a balance the boat because I'm the other side have the fridge batteries in the fridge so I balance the boat out cuz it was leaning to one side of the fridge so now I'm way even on the boat I did that on purpose👍👍

@nicholasfano7929

3 жыл бұрын

Gonna be adding TM on my boat. Hoping same does not cause tilting to one side. Going with lithium battery.

Hi Capt How much weight u think was removed with the carpet. You got to substrate that from the equation. Look around probably you will find a couple heavy things to remove. Also I don't agree with testing with engine trimmed all the way in I would do the test either in mid or a little out trimmed since this would give you the true results . I'm guessing 5800rpm/38mph/1.8 mpg at WOT which isn't bad 400 pounds isn't a big deal. Your boat should carry easily 6-8 people and most of time is only you and your wife There is not much you can really do since the boat is underpowered as is mine The Yami 200 is a great reliable engine but slow one you start adding stuff in an already heavy boat. Just live with it till you may upgrade the engine

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

hello cap. and very true is usually my self on the boat, and the carpet i removed was about 25 lbs and aded 2 lbs of paint. the reason i tested the engine trim down is because i called Yamaha and the told me to get a real test RPM reading engine needs to be trim all the way down ,and yes now i will look more carefully at everything i carry on the boat needs to be necessary and i even placed my self into a diet 😁👍👍 no more bacon😂🤣

@Ushootout

3 жыл бұрын

@@OutOnTheReef VERY BAD IDEA. Don't say not to bacon and beer . I rather to remove one battery . Sleep on the floor and even the capt seat may not be necessary. BUT DONT MESS WITH BACON AND BEER 🤣

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

@@Ushootout lol 😁😉i agreed i don't know what came over me thanks for that virtual slap 👋cap. I needed one so i can come to reality. 😁👍👍👍💪💪⚓

I normally go to east lake in saint cloud it is fairly large and also 10min away from my house. Give it a try you may like it of anything just let me know

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

thanks cap. for the heads up, is been over 15 years i don't use that lake👍⚓

@forteluis

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah they cleaned it during the beginning of the year. You dont have to worry about being too shallow

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

@@forteluis awesome cap. Great to know, here at Kissimmee they are doing nothing about it

You just have an underpowered boat🤷🏽‍♂️

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

yes i agree but i have to use this solution to fix my rpms for now

A little pricey but lithium batteries can solve your weight issue. You can swap three batteries that you have for 136 V lithium battery but they are pricey

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

i agreed cap a lot $$$

Wow that’s very different then my 175 hpdi I get my boat up to 42-43 mph I understand that you’re carrying more weight than me but still that’s a big difference on speed

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

Yes it is I carry about 800 pounds extra on weight on all my gear that makes a huge difference captain 👍

@lou198

3 жыл бұрын

@@OutOnTheReef how much fuel does your boat carry mine is 100 gallon tank

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

@@lou198 mine is 90 gallons but i carry 10 extra for the generator

@lou198

3 жыл бұрын

@@OutOnTheReef I have a 9.8 kicker and mount about 110lbs extra I’m probably running a few hundred lbs under you

Have you considered removing that fin off of your lower unit? In every case of anyone I know, it was a bandaid for incorrect mounting height of the motor on the transom. Just food for thought..

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the recommendation cap.👍👍

If you go with a motor get a v6 4 cylinders don’t have the torque. For now wax the bottom or try the new compounds I will be doing mine soon it may not improve your numbers any but it will keep the bottom looking good

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

Yes in the future I may move up to the V6 the 225 horses I think that will be a great setup thank you for your great advice captain👍👍

@fishydubsfishing6516

3 жыл бұрын

Be careful cuz there’s 2 different size 225 I don’t think that’s enough I would go 300 no less then 250 I have a 4.2 L. 250 and after I put the tm. And 4 batteries I wish I had 300 but 250 is great and I don’t have all that weight you have

That’s a problem you got there captain the more weight the slower you go at 5500 rpm you should be at top speed cruising speed you should run from 2800 to 3200 rpm running an outboard at full throttle will kill it over time that’s gonna be very costly going to the Bahamas in fuel

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

That was just a test I usually go cruising at 4400 RPMs which gives me about 26 to 27 miles per hour I never run my engine for long periods of time at Full Throttle because I really does damage to the motor and it will not last me long

@xbondjsii4550

3 жыл бұрын

@@OutOnTheReef axx

What power percentage of the motor does it use in spot lock on a normal day? Say 15mph and 3 foot waves. 50 percent throttle or more? Im trying to determine how many AH i need. Thanks.

@OutOnTheReef

2 жыл бұрын

If it's not rough it will last 5 to 6 hours but in a good day you can do 7 to 8 hours

@Evan721sxm

2 жыл бұрын

@@OutOnTheReef thank you cap, what AH capacity do you have?

@OutOnTheReef

2 жыл бұрын

@@Evan721sxm i have 3 100 amp each

Every pitch is worth 200 rpm. Every inch of prop diameter difference is worth 500 rpm and an extra blade drops 200 rpm. Rough estimate. Lets you prop easier. Thanks for the vid.

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your knowledge and import Captain I really appreciate it it helps me and my viewers understand what the pitch and diameter does to a boat. Navigate safe cap.

Capt did you load up your fridge also?

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

Yes I thought of that too but I only loaded up halfway usually I have more stuff in there but I feel like the Apollo 13 when they have to cut down on items to make it home and that's exactly how I feel cutting down on weight before I have to plunge $300,000 in a year boat lol

Saludos⚓️

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

Saludos capitan 👍👍⚓

How does the van do towing?

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

i have to take it slow because im at my max towing cap.

Why didn't you just put a 9hp or 15hp Yahama kicker motor on the back as I mentioned before? Fewer problems, safe and you can creep back to port in case of emergency? Live in the PNW and that's just how it's done up here.

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

Does that kicker motor have spot lock?

@wesyoungquist393

3 жыл бұрын

No, and I don't really know if any gas outboards have that feature. Could be just an electric thing.

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

@@wesyoungquist393 i find more useful the Minkota over a kicker motor do to spot lock it is awesome for fishing in deep water and you can reach 3 to 4 MPH in good conditions👍👍👍

Just curious Capt. , what horsepower is your boat rated for. Should be a tag on it, usually by your throttle control, but may be on your transom. That will give you an idea if you are underpowered or not.

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

hellon cap . and yes the max HP is 225 on the transom i think a 225 hp motor would be perfect 👍⚓

@centralparkfitness

Жыл бұрын

Need a 225 with a nizpro tune to 332

@centralparkfitness

Жыл бұрын

It you should at a minimum get that 200 nizpro tuned up to 230

What is the total weight of your boat? And the Minn kota keep the spot lock???

@OutOnTheReef

2 жыл бұрын

the weight of the boat is about 4000 lb and yes it does a great job cap.

Would be very interesting to see if you upgrade to Yamaha Helm EX and get your thoughts.

@OutOnTheReef

Жыл бұрын

Very expensive i think

@bobli9267

Жыл бұрын

@@OutOnTheReef 400 lbs lighter? :)

@bobli9267

Жыл бұрын

@@OutOnTheReef and you only live once!

@OutOnTheReef

Жыл бұрын

@bobli9267 never seen it and how you lose 400lb. Cap

@bobli9267

Жыл бұрын

@@OutOnTheReef gets rid of your minn kota, Garmin autopilot, etc…. Here’s the best feature called fish point so I’m a bottom fisherman. kzread.info/dash/bejne/fKeKp9R6Z9qsadI.html

With the expense of these trolling motors, not being brushless is absolutely ridiculous

@OutOnTheReef

Жыл бұрын

hope the improve on the future cap.👍⚓

Can you tell me the total weight of your boat? I'm currently planning a similar installation at my boat. It weights about 2500 kg (5000 lbs) Do you think the minnkota is strong enough?

@OutOnTheReef

2 жыл бұрын

yes cap. mine is 5000 lbs loaded and i have no problems and i have the 72 shaft , hope this helps👍⚓

Hey Cap. I dont understand something here. If you have 14.50 by 15 pitch doing 33mph and the other 14.25 by 14 pitch doing higher RPM at the same speed . The smaller one make you waste more gas and make the boat work harder at higher rpm. To me the older one is better because less rpm and same mph

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

great question cap. i spoke with Yamaha Outboards and they said that for the engine not to overload or underload on RPM and suffer damaged the RPM s need to be be twin 5500 and 6000 and i was at 5300 and the engine was struggling , that s how the RPM work for this engines , so by bein now at 5500 rpm the engine is running smooth , is not all about speed remember this engines don't have a transmission so that is why is so important to have the proper RPM s , thanks for your great question cap.👍👍

@YOANDRYG

3 жыл бұрын

@@OutOnTheReef nice answer. I lern something new today. Thank you Cap.

I think you’re ready for twins cap 😃

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

lol once i get 100000 subscribers it will be that time 😁👍⚓⚓for now the Crooked Pilothouse will have to do have a awesome weekend cap.

Capt In your position, I would sell the 200, you are clearly underpowered. Buy the cheapest 300 you can find in the market. Do not worry about Parker’s ratings, they obviously do not care about your boat, so why do you care about their “ratings”. You already have 400+ lbs on the bow area so it will offset the extra 200 lbs or so on the stern with a 300. It will behave like a new boat.

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

i understand cap but i think that transom rating is because that's what the transom can hold, it will crack my transom and void my 10 year warrantee

@leoaa777

3 жыл бұрын

Out On The Reef what warranty? Parker sold you out, f*** them.

Your engine was sized to the boat when you bought it.Now you have added well over 1000 pounds of weight. Maybe time to upgrade engines capt. I always want a little more engine than i need.

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

You are very close to the weight added, i added 800 lb witch is a little high but im always alone so i guess is like a empty boat with 5 fishermen 👍👍

how much does your boat weight i have a aquasport 225 osprey with a Suzuki 200 3900 lbs tops out 38 miles a hour want to add minn kota also

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

the minn kota will reduce your top speed from 38 to 36 or 35 mph because your boat will take 36v system that is 3 batteries and total weight added in my case was about 400LB and that created a problem for me my engine RPM wen down from 5400 to 5200 so i had to spend $300 on a lower pitch propeller to raise 200 RPM. hope this info helps you cap.

@johnclemente6615

3 жыл бұрын

@@OutOnTheReef how much is total boat weight of plot house boat and did the hydrofoil help with plane?

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

@@johnclemente6615 yes my boat weighs about close to five thousand pounds with all the equipment and I noticed a huge difference by installing the hydrofoil just remember that every boat different on the displacement of weight

How did you know it was affecting your performance?

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

You can hear the engine struggling to take RPM especially when I was at sea

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

And Yamaha recommendation is between 5500 RPMs and 5800 RPMs that's the best range for your engine to perform well

Now I want a bacon burger lol

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

lol cap. is not healthy but it tasted great cap enjoy 😉👍👍⚓

What size shaft is that

@OutOnTheReef

Жыл бұрын

i place the link of the unit in the description below cap, i hope it helps you

Capt I believe you are under power with that Parker.

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

You are right cap. I need in the future to upgrade to a 225 hp

@jkroblox9723

3 жыл бұрын

Don’t go with 225 . There rally no different from 200 and 225. Go with 250.

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

@@jkroblox9723 but my transom is rated for 225 Max Captain what do you think of that

@jkroblox9723

3 жыл бұрын

Capt, a friend of my had 2018 225 with 400hr. He repower his boat with 225 and only gain few mph. He ask Yamaha dealer tech and they told him a 200 and 225 aren’t much different. Tech told him 250 is much better but like your his boat is rated for 225 Max too.

@jkroblox9723

3 жыл бұрын

Also Capt , a pilot house Parker boat is a go fast boat . Don’t go over your boat Max Hp .

Please no more alterations to that 21 Parker.

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

Trust me I feel the same way as a matter of fact now I look at extra weight very seriously on the boat so if I'm carrying five beers I'll cut it down to three beers that's how serious I am about extra weight LOL

Do you regret not getting the Yamaha 225 because of this?

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

tghe boat came with a 200 from factory

Buenas tardes , por que no prubas hacer otro canal en español ?? Muchos cantantes por ejemplo nacieron en usa y triunfaron cantando en español

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

muy cierto Yarnel , estoy bien limitado de tiempo para otro cannal pero aprecio aunque no entiendes bes mis videos 👍⚓👍

@yarnelyahumari

3 жыл бұрын

Gracias , si ablo y entiendo ingles yo te sigo desde que tenias el barquito que parecia una sandal y me has ayudado mucho con tus videos para hacer cosas en mi barco, gracias por el tiempo y por esos videos increíbles

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

@@yarnelyahumari de nada capitan es un placer para mi conpartir lo que sigo aprendiendo, y gracias por ser un viewer de tanto toempo👍👍👍👍👍⚓⚓saludos 👋

prop was a waste of money. What happens when you add 2 people to go fishing back to square one .. better option would have been a 36v lithium battery which would have saved you 150lbs. I would concentrate on your cruise RPM and not WOT

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

Very true Captain but the positive side is that this extra weight gave me more lift on the back of the engine because now the boat is well-balanced so the weight improve the boat handling a lot that's one positive thing that I can cut the ocean a lot faster

@mobeious

3 жыл бұрын

@@OutOnTheReef I dont think you got lift that think you keel is riding more in the water now. You essentially got a permanent trim tab. They better option would have been lithium if you that concerned with the few hundred RPM lose and get a set of trim tabs to control your bow with the extra weight

Cap why not just get a bigger engine and sell this one....

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

That's what I thought in the future I may do that but I'm also thinking about the extra 100 pounds the other engine would carry. I will wait until Yamaha makes a lighter engine and Updates this engine maybe soon in the future they'll do that

@busuttilmark

3 жыл бұрын

@@OutOnTheReef have you considered mercury’s new lightweight v8?

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

@@busuttilmark no I haven't I didn't know they made a lightweight and what's the weight of that engine captain

@commanderlorne1

3 жыл бұрын

@@OutOnTheReef embed.widencdn.net/pdf/plus/mercurymarine/dsdiqxjyqw/5344_V-6_V-8_Compare-Chart-250hp.pdf?u=orhjei 520 pounds for the 250 seapro. The torque is out of this world! My marina has sold quite a few on repowers and never had a bad experience over their yamahas and evinrudes

@busuttilmark

3 жыл бұрын

@@OutOnTheReef the 250 v8 pro xs is 500lbs whilst the 250 v8 seapro four stroke is 520 lbs.

The problem is not the minnkota, its your batteries. ☹️ there is lighter batteries like dakota lithium but $$$

@OutOnTheReef

2 жыл бұрын

Yes captain I agree that's why now I just moved to lithium batteries and I cut about a 100 pounds off the weight👍

I thought you had a 4 blade prop on there

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

And recent videos I talked about that when I fully loaded the boat the 4 blade propeller did not perform well but when the boat was not fully loaded the 4 blade propeller Works awesome

Could you upgrade your motor instead of your prop trade your other motor in ???? Get more performance

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

That is an awesome idea something that I will consider hopefully soon for a new engine if this one doesn't perform as well but I really like the 4-cylinder it's very simple and that uses very little fuel and a good day I can do 3.5 miles per gallon

If you can afford it LiPo batteries would cut down on some weight.

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

Yes im looking at every little i can take of the boat ,every little helps Thanks cap.

@pcbfisher3876

3 жыл бұрын

@@OutOnTheReef look at ionic. They have an iPhone app that will tell the status of the batts at all times. I have 2 12volts for my Rhodan.

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

@@pcbfisher3876 thanks cap i will look into it 👍👍

Dude u are killing that poor engine man and is a Yamaha

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

that was only a test , i usually run it at cruising Speed 4400 RPM 26 MPH cap.

400 pounds on the bow maybe why you lost rpms. A bow heavy boat plows thru the water. When you are out and about try playing with trim on motors little here and there plus trim on your tabs.

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

Virtual Captain but I was doing the test based on lowering the engine all the way down like the manufacturer said but yes when I raise the engine I'll gain about a hundred RPMs extra

@sd-pv6it

3 жыл бұрын

@@OutOnTheReef i hear you. Merry Christmas 🎅

I would go down another inch pitch

@OutOnTheReef

2 жыл бұрын

Greatvidea cap. Thanks👍⚓ And cutting down on the weight of the batteries really improves too

Damn dude 5400 rpm on 200hp will kill your motor regardless you need a bigger engine man

@OutOnTheReef

3 жыл бұрын

i usually don't run that fast that was only a test, usually y cruise at 4400 rpm ,thanks for your comment cap.👍⚓