The Mind Blowing version of Beethoven 5th. 1st Mov: 0:00 2nd Mov: 8:35 3rd Mov: 19:57 4th Mov: 26:13
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@charlesdavis70872 жыл бұрын
Electrifying! I am 77 but this was like hearing Beethoven's 5th for the first time. Fresh, clear, powerful and totally alive. Never heard W. Furtwangler before. This goes beyond the bravado of Bernstein and precession of Von Karajan. I feel like I've just met the soul of Ludwig for the first time. Bravo master Furtwangler! Bravo... where ever you are.
@TheSirot
Жыл бұрын
Please try Beethoven Symphony No 9 Furtwängler 1951 or 1942...both are the best
@davidzhang3009
Жыл бұрын
I listened to the both, 1942 was even better, the best
@andysoul295
9 ай бұрын
Beautifully expressed
@geraldhowse8597
7 ай бұрын
He's dead.
@charlesdavis7087
7 ай бұрын
You're funny. Of course he is dear, but a part of his soul he shared with us still lives. It was recorded, thank god. @@geraldhowse8597
@fabiodemarchi5703 жыл бұрын
Forse sono un nostalgico ma queste vecchie interpretazioni ( Celibidache, Solti, Walterecc.) mi emozionano.le recenti mi dicono poco. Mi scusino i bravissimi giovani direttori.
@francomassarut4888
2 жыл бұрын
Concordo con te caro Fabio
@rfalv3 жыл бұрын
This is the best, and after 70 years I do not say that lightly ...
@opera93
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I am 73 years young, though latecomer to Beethoven @ age 20...... let you know on more of Furtwangker, etc.....
@opera93
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, interestingly I like Furtwangler’s artistry …..somehow missed Him, in 1960s-80s I listened to BERNSTEIN, & CHICAGO SO, etc….
@user-mx5hl2ux1y
2 жыл бұрын
вряд ли возможно лучшее исполнение, хотя Аллаху и больше доступно
@jonnlennox4176
2 жыл бұрын
mmm, I would say better that Furt is the best interpreter of Beethoven's fifth. and of course the ninth etc. How can you say that this is "better" than the one on May 27, '47?
@rfalv
2 жыл бұрын
@@jonnlennox4176 I don't wouldn't say that ... That's incomparable ... I was generalizing about his 5ths ...
@jimkeeler14888 жыл бұрын
...an overwhelmingly powerful performance. It is impossible to explain why Furtwangler's Beethoven is so uniquely, so utterly persuasive.
@RobertClower8 жыл бұрын
If you close your eyes during the lead up to the 4th movement, then open them after the first 30 seconds, the feeling afterwards is surreal. It's like you were on a different planet filled with pure emotion.
@Bogart18997 жыл бұрын
Beethoven's music is primal. It reaches deeper into our minds than any other composer's music. No other composer has that impact on me. And Furtwangler interpreted Beethoven the best. They both climbed highest and saw furthest.
@notherOlivia
Жыл бұрын
My cat agrees. We just compared v. Karajan, Barenboim and F. W. He’s best cause he lives it.
@delflorida2480 Жыл бұрын
The music pulses and blazes
@fenriquealvarez5 жыл бұрын
the genius of Furtwangler,directly from the hands of GOD. giving us this beautiful interpretation of the fifth.
@harryokelly435310 жыл бұрын
Furtwängler was the best conductor!
@angelosala5048
3 жыл бұрын
Un grande interprete il migliore fino ai nostri tempi .Sara'difficile sentirne un altro.
@davisoneill10 жыл бұрын
This is Beethoven in all his elemental power and glory.
@Ollbrich11 жыл бұрын
Never heard anything better.
@ursulapainter5307 Жыл бұрын
Everything in this performance is close to perfection---tempo, expression, sound volume crescendo and decrescendo. After enduring war, chaos and starvation, these people came back to play like this.
Ok, I was a von Karajan fan until I heard the warmth, power, the beauty of this- so alive. Grateful to have found it on here and thanks all for the wonderful commentary.
@Interspirituality
2 жыл бұрын
Everyone goes through a Karajan phase before they discover Furtwangler :D
@Fritz_Maisenbacher
2 жыл бұрын
And now, try Carlos Kleiber.
@charlesdavis7087
2 жыл бұрын
This was my first time hearing anything done by Furtwangler's, let alone his interpretations of Beethoven's 5th. It was like I'd never heard it before. Instead of Beethoven pounding on the Gates of Heaven demanding entrance, this was like Beethoven himself took me by the hand and opened the Gates... just for me. Never have I heard it so alive. For me, this truly was one of those transcendent moments that touches upon things eternal.
@joralemonvirgincreche5 жыл бұрын
Wow. Criminal to interrupt this with actual COMMERCIALS. Whoever thought it was a good idea to interrupt Beethoven's 5th with commercials should be jailed.
@replyhere590
4 жыл бұрын
Complain to the advertiser. Many Adv mgrs would be steamed if they knew the offending timing of their ads.
@clavichord
4 жыл бұрын
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@AfroPoli
3 жыл бұрын
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@jpablognzlz2628
2 жыл бұрын
brave browser
@alex669953
Жыл бұрын
@@AfroPoli I would better buy
@paga123 Жыл бұрын
Furtwangler and Beethoven: I never heard a messenger so consistent with a message !!
@marciarijfkogelrijfkogel45872 жыл бұрын
El mejor Director de todos los tiempos, el inolvidable Wilhelm Furtwängler
@philipwolfson91604 жыл бұрын
Furtangler, like no other, gets into the heart and mind of the composer. This symphony is about grandeur and majesty, therefore never hurried nor its full voice muted under the baton of this master interpreter.
@Ileana51734 жыл бұрын
No tengo palabras para expresar mi emoción cuando escucho esta sinfonía dirigida por el extraordinario director Wilhelm Furtwängler. Y en particular esta grabación de 1954 . Todos los detalles de la dinámica son perfectos! La orquesta responde maravillosamente cada gesto del director, ambos son un sólo ente... ! ¡Gracias por publicar esta maravilla!
@barney68885 жыл бұрын
The point is that Furtwangler was not a nazi, anymore than Lenny was responsible for Viet Nam or Slatkin for Dick Cheney. What should a famous artist do when evil tyranny suddenly takes over the country? What's the correct answer to that one?
@brooksiefan6 жыл бұрын
Unequalled. Superbely flexible, well balanced, creative, daring, dynamic, poetic, declaratory...
@barney68884 жыл бұрын
if he had've lived into his 80's, it would've been a very different world of classical music. so close to stereo too.
@ZuluValis6 жыл бұрын
best interpretation ever i think
@davidlasson25585 жыл бұрын
Pretty damn exciting! To comment on but one of WF's tactics here: The fact that the last part of the finale's stretto is actually performed rallentando, coupled with the brief pause just before the final chord, makes the coda thrilling.
@thalassaokra42024 жыл бұрын
La quinata sinfonia di Beethoven e' stata, nella mia giovinezza, la mia devozione per la musica sinfonica .
@johannabaloghCinematicBrain2 ай бұрын
Just discovered Furtwangler conducting Beethoven's 9th. I always loved (still do) Von Karajan. However!! The transition from the third to fourth movement is The Most wonderful and intense!! Perfect!!!
@jackhousman66377 жыл бұрын
Listen from 6:50 to the end of the first movement. LIFE and DEATH!!! Furt. said "the most important thing a musician must avoid is routine>. He performed this work over 200 times in his career, and he came to it each time in a humble spirit, as though for the first time. No matter how often he performed a score, he re-studied, and re-thought it. He's my hero, as both artist and man. (San Shirakawa's bio, The Devil's Musicmaster, is absolutely essential reading.)
@wilwal3236
4 жыл бұрын
His Great Secret --- Humility and LOVE---Dr William Johns
@jacqueschavarotdeneuville48037 жыл бұрын
Beethoven est ici , en personne, bien présent ; ô perfection...
@gustavojimenez44025 жыл бұрын
simply perfect
@wodkagorba52994 жыл бұрын
Yes. That's definitively mind blowing. Great!
@user-xt4cv6wz1f3 жыл бұрын
It is the man who can represents Beethoven himself.
@leestamm31872 жыл бұрын
One of the greatest B5 performances ever recorded. Superb.
@duwir59595 жыл бұрын
a really great 5th of beethoven. Furtwängler was at beethoven, brahms, wagner (isolde with flagstadt) unbelievable.
@CanadianMonarchist
Жыл бұрын
He was great at Mozart too.
@Ileana5173
4 ай бұрын
Inolvidable, perfecto,el mejor director de siglo xx
@user-bd2lo6lg6s4 жыл бұрын
名演! ほんと素晴らしい!
@manfredrosenberg70635 жыл бұрын
A 85 ans, j'ai entendu de nombreuses interprétations de cette célèbre 5ème de Beethoven et je dois avouer que peu m'ont laissé aussi enchanté que celle que je viens d'entendre. S'il est indéniable que Furtwängler soit un grand chef, la gloire en l'occurrence ne revient assurément pas qu'à lui seul, la prestation de l'orchestre étant exceptionnelle et la prise de son, voire la remasterisation qui relèvent de véritables prouesses techniques pour arriver à un tel résultat n'y étant pas pour rien ! La fusion de tous ces éléments aboutit à un résultat rare mais j'estime que comparer ici le chef avec von Karajan par exemple n'est pas du tout convaincant, tant il a existé antérieurement et existent présentement d'autres grands chefs, les premiers n'ayant pas joui hélas pour flatter l'oreille des mélomanes quelque peu avertis, des moyens techniques dont on dispose aujourd'hui. Je suis en effet littéralement époustouflé quand j'écoute des CD qui reproduisent des enregistrements réalisés au départ de rouleaux Edison !!!
@richardresseguier15 жыл бұрын
The Best compositeur et chef d'orchestre ... résultat sublime!
@MrVincent5373 жыл бұрын
This is the best version of Furtwängler himself. He should have lived for at least another fifty years, and his interpretation of Beethoven and of all other componists whould have reached a level and a complexity of expression which no other conductor could reach.
@seijishino55559 жыл бұрын
The permanent preservation version!
@markuswendelin54487 жыл бұрын
Amazing Furtwängler LG from Austria 💘♪🤓❤🎼😚😊
@francescaemc29 жыл бұрын
grazie infinite!!!!!!
@TheKickingDonkey9 жыл бұрын
A real eye-opener.
@MadanaBhatKhandige9 жыл бұрын
Wonderful recording, though I still prefer Carlos Kleiber's interpretation with the Vienna Philharmonic.
@user-zp8fo4ux1h6 жыл бұрын
Rodrigo-san,I agree with yo 100% completely. Also, your straight talk have us be comfortable..... thx !
@jairoguitarraclasica30027 жыл бұрын
This is the best version of the Symphony Ive ever found. The Orchestra is like an intrument and all the elements (colors, movement and direction, pauses and breathings, etc...) are under a total control feeling. Nothing is a casuality. Furtwängler didnt forget the passion, the feeling and the personality of Beethoven. This is simply wonderful. :)
@hansh.gruendel7877
5 жыл бұрын
even better for me: kzread.info/dash/bejne/Z5lh0MlmprjNZrg.html
@ericeric-gy3xq Жыл бұрын
Extraordinaire....
@vivacepuletti294411 жыл бұрын
Impressionante! Bellissimo! C'ertamente il testamento artistico del più grande interprete beethoveniano.
@thethikboy5 жыл бұрын
delivering the mad Ludwig in all his revolutionary fury
@j.r.66645 жыл бұрын
It's like being a child again. You hear this and you remember the first time you heard it. You didn't know about all the different styles of interpretation and all the music theory, you just knew this is Beethoven's 5th and that's how it's played. By listening to Furtwangler's version you realize that there's no doubt that Beethoven himself would have played it like this. Karajan is good, of course, but his version can't even compete with this in my opinion.
@marionkiker1346
5 жыл бұрын
Beethoven's conductor.
@pierrederveaux1529
2 жыл бұрын
J'ai fait la même expérience que vous, J.R, et j'ai la même impression. Merci de l'avoir aussi bien dit.
@joedeegan387010 жыл бұрын
Great. Furtwangler has been called the master of transitions. He is said to have worked and worked on them in rehearsal. I think because he realized how important they are to the music. His "heavy" chords are another thing. He supposedly didn't want razor sharp precision because a slightly staggered entry by different instruments gave the chords that body and weight which you can hear in this performance. The Only Furtwangler performances available used to be the Studio version with VPO ,1952 I think and the May 27th 1947 BPO version. The variety on UTUBE is a joy for me after being so limited for so long.
@PanzerDave
10 жыл бұрын
The June 1943 version recorded live in Berlin has been available for some time. The first time I saw it was on a vinyl album but later I bought the same album on CD. www.amazon.com/Beethoven-L-Symphonies-Furtw%C3%A4ngler-1942-1944/dp/B00BFHUBXI/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1394743312&sr=8-5&keywords=furtwangler+beethoven This CD also includes Beethoven's symphonies numbers 3-7 and 9 as well as two of his overtures; the Coriolan and the Leonore #3. It is a great album and the recordings are superb.
@philipkuttner7945
5 жыл бұрын
Yes, the chords do gain body and weight. But Beethoven could have notated the instruments to stagger their entrances; instead he wrote them all to play at once. These chords remind me of very old-fashioned pianists who used to roll all their chords. Aside from the messy chords (and some messy ta-ta-ta-DAH's), it's a fine performance.
@andrews5828 жыл бұрын
Furtwangler's interpretation is very individual but it seems to me that he emphasizes the parts of Beethoven's symphony that a lot of us non-genius people in the seats remember in our minds when we "play" The Fifth in our heads. Listening to this, its almost like hearing the symphony again for the first time, one of the greatest experiences of my life 60 years ago.
@johnsunde4339
4 жыл бұрын
And I thought Karajan and Bernstein were the epitome?
@rfalv
3 жыл бұрын
You're just used to hearing post 1950 garbage ... the spiritual world is gone ...
@johnroh39054 жыл бұрын
Bravo, dynamic Furtwangler
@danielalaura73046 жыл бұрын
...prava Peta...to je to!
@JiveDadson6 жыл бұрын
BRAVO! BRAVO!
@fenriquealvarez7 жыл бұрын
the greatest conductors of the 20th century, Furtwangler and Carlos Kleiber .
@12brunoparis
3 жыл бұрын
You could watch the video of Giulini with LAPO....
@inhojeung15486 жыл бұрын
Great! Furtwangler
@user-uv9bi3to7e Жыл бұрын
благодарю!великий и гениальный!
@stefanodocvilla10 жыл бұрын
ECCELLENTE!
@metanoia3229 ай бұрын
SI EL GRAN BEETHOVEN FUERA A DIRIGIR ESTA SINFONÍA LO QUE SE ESCUCHARÍA SERÍA EXACTAMENTE ESTA MAGNA VERSIÓN DEL MÁS MAGNÍFICO DE LOS DIRECTORES DE ORQUESTA , WILHELM FURTWANGLER
@jls43824 жыл бұрын
Ahhhhhhhhh. Exquisite.
@fredericchopin7538 Жыл бұрын
Delightful!
@mars19366 жыл бұрын
I love those souls who do not give in to their fate.
@davidjaumot53324 жыл бұрын
Estupenda 5 de Beethoven, con el cracteristico sonido de Furtwangler
@ilirllukaci53452 жыл бұрын
Best ever.
@Anguillacat4 жыл бұрын
The greatest conductor of the 20th century.
@argeliamelet29274 жыл бұрын
Con Furtwängler, definitivamente uno escucha a Beethoven
@jeffdavis72339 жыл бұрын
Easily the greatest conductor of the 20th century. Too bad he wasn't well known outside of Europe! The americans treated this genius like dirt after the war.
@florincoter1988
9 жыл бұрын
Jeff Davis Right. The Americans teat a lot of thing like dirt and a lot of dirt like things...
@gomagoma313
9 жыл бұрын
Furtwangler is still appreciated in a far-east, Japan. His recordings are reissued over and over. His mastery knows no boundary.
@andrews582
8 жыл бұрын
+Florin Coter Gosh, we Americans are such awful people! Sheesh!
@larsbrp
8 жыл бұрын
+Thomas Andrews As a matter of fact USA did not let fleeing jews in Dyring the second world war. We are some people who cannot forget that. Now you treat mexicans almost line slaves. Did you really think the rest of the world did not notice? No, USA is not perfect.
@florincoter1988
7 жыл бұрын
NO, you are not awful. Just do mistakes like any, but on a grander scale. Let me remind you that Churchill did not want to stop at Berlin, but Moscow. Roosevelt, if my memory does no fail me, did not agree because good business was the prospect for the Russians. The rest is sad history. And let's not talk about Oscar award, etc...
@thalassaokra42024 жыл бұрын
Beethoven, il mio entusiasmante amore !
@johnfalstaff22705 жыл бұрын
Probably Furtwängler last performance of this symphony before he passed away the same year 1954.
@daniel1up6 жыл бұрын
Over a half century has passed since the performance but the soul in the rendition is unchanged. After listening to about 10 different versions of Beethoven's 5 fifth, I find this the most moving one. Eventhough the sound quality isn't up to par with recent recordings naturally. It is simply more music in Furtwängler's version than the other's I've listened to so far eventhough they all share the same notes.
@latwtvptwn8 жыл бұрын
Hi Jeff, Yes, the best conductor in Beethoven 5th. I agree with your point of view. Samuel Lee / Los Angeles
@user-gu3gn1uk3w3 жыл бұрын
I think that Furtwängler was one of the most greatest conductors.
@vitaguseinova5 жыл бұрын
Bravo)))
@wolframg16 жыл бұрын
TE BEST,THIS WAS EVER:WILHELM THE BEST PERFORMER OF BEETHOVEN MUSIC.
@jorgealfredogonzalezgonzalez10 жыл бұрын
Un estilo define la vida de todos. Beethoven tuvo el suyo propio, así, con inmensa sabiduría lo interpretó Furtwangler, e hizo lo increíble: inmortalizó a ambos. Todo un estilo, un poder, una energía, sello incontrastable. Hasta siempre,
@hugogerardofortunato8777
10 жыл бұрын
Totalmente en desacuerdo, Furtwangler no interpretaba a Beethoven, Furtwangler ejecutaba a Beethoven, un insolito festival de tiempos amanerados que hacen a la obra inconsistente y no refleja la vitalidad y la genialidad de lo escrito por Beethoven, acentuado ademas por pasajes de sonoridades secas opacas y asperas. Todo lo contrario se encuentra en Herbert von Karajan, tiempos justos y uniformidad de principio a fin, pura vitalidad, brillo y poder.
@renato45222
10 жыл бұрын
Hugo Fortunato Furtwangler è un caso a sè stante nella storia della direzione; Karajan si iscrive - almeno con più senno e più finezza filologica ed estetica - nella scia di Toscanini, Walter e, prima di loro, Nikish e Hans von Bulow.
@francescaemc2
9 жыл бұрын
Hugo Fortunato go listen to Karajan... nobody is stopping you.
@renato45222
9 жыл бұрын
Dopo Furtwangler e Karajan sentite cosa ha fatto di certi capolavori beethoveniani un certo Toscanini Arturo, ovvero il più favoloso di tutti i tempi. Ma l'invito so benissimo che è perso.
@rationalconscience8 жыл бұрын
Furtwängler is the best and I'm sure Beethoven would agree. I wish we could ask him. Let alone what he does with he volume and how he switches between instruments during what's usually a solo.... What a shame they didn't have better microphones and mediums back in the day... *close to tears*
@qwertyuiop-ke7fs
8 жыл бұрын
+rationalconscience In my opinion Beethoven might be confused by the size of the orchestra and the slower post-romantic tempos and rich textures given by the newer instruments. Maybe he would have liked it, maybe he would have thought it was bullshit. 150 years is a long time and frankly I think music reinterpreted in a different cultural context should be listened to more for the interpretation than for how well it would please its original composer. I listen to Furtwangler's Beethoven for Furtwangler and less for Beethoven.
@Warstub
3 жыл бұрын
@@qwertyuiop-ke7fs Basically the same reason I listen to Klemperer's recordings. There's a Mendelssohn/Schubert recording on The Klemperer Legacy, and the 2 symphonies recorded have never felt so sublime through any other conductor I've listened to.
@francescaemc23 жыл бұрын
Grazie
@AlexNaut958 жыл бұрын
i've heard this piece so many times and i have to say this is my favorite interpretation. Particularly the 1st movement for me a list of my top interpretations would be 1. Furtwängler 2. Bernstein 3. Kleiner I honestly cannot enjoy Karajan's interpretation. i have no words to describe it other than soulless.
@jyhshyonglin9793
5 жыл бұрын
Soulless , too commercial and too dominating
@marionkiker1346
5 жыл бұрын
@@jyhshyonglin9793 Fully agree on your statement and Karajan falls far short of Furtwangler in interpreting and performing Beethoven.
@grahammummery4353
4 жыл бұрын
I can enjoy Karajan's intepretation. But above him I would put Furtwangler, Klemperer, Bernstein, Nikisch, Szell, Kleiber (both father and son), Jochum, Rattle, even Menuhin
@latwtvptwn8 жыл бұрын
這比1943 年還指揮得深沉。聽得我全身抽搐,淚流不止。
@rodrigornovaes8 жыл бұрын
Incredible. This makes me never want to hear Herbert von Karajan's cold, heartless interpretation again. (And yes... too bad we can only imagine this with 21st century recording technology.)
@maraboo72
7 жыл бұрын
I refuse Karajan since I heard his version of Liszt's Hungarian Rhapsody Nr. 2 some 40 years ago. After that he was done for me. Stupefying jawdropping how this man could take the fire out of music. Before that I had his Ravel's Bolero. It's ok if you don't know another version. But I know some.
@Jimserac
7 жыл бұрын
Precisely. von Karajan is too mechanical, as though a computer were the conductor, excising all that is human and/or spiritual from the rendition. Once was enough for me and I was DONE with him. Ozawa seems the same to me. Likewise, Barenboim makes great pretensions at creativity while being the same as von Karajan in my opinion. He ruined DuPre's ethereal creativity and play, again in my opinion, by over controlling her. He had her wound up tighter than a broken clock but still her feeling managed to shine through.
@jackhousman6637
7 жыл бұрын
I've heard three different Karajan recordings of the Brahms Requiem. One is deadlier that the other. In one, he takes the baritone solo movement so slowly, that the young, fresh Hans Hotter has to take extra breaths, between the normal ones. K. sleepwalks through the entire work until the fugue in the second to last movement, at which point someone, like the recording producer, must have come up behind him and kicked him hard in the pants, because he suddenly wakes up and starts making actual music. He's supposed to be one of the all-time greats, but his recordings have always left me absolutely cold.
@pierre-louischevillon7197
7 жыл бұрын
Novaes g
@mmm48398
6 жыл бұрын
Furtwangler had a strong jealousy against Karajan. It is evidence that he had to admit Karajan's genius. To be jealous of a young man younger than 20 years, I think Furtwangler is small as a human being. Even if such a person plays, sound and soul are muddy. Beethoven is sorrowful in the other world.
@demediar Жыл бұрын
Brillante , es de genios ! . Un verdadero placer escuchar esta obra maestra tan bien orquestada y dirigida.
@davidzhang3009
Жыл бұрын
Yes, it's genius! Also, there is a book named the german genius
@peterhelbich33348 жыл бұрын
furtwängler said : i like the trippel B ..... bach, beethoven , brahms
@clavichord
4 жыл бұрын
Well, I like the quadruple nines; Schubert's, Dvorak's, Bruckner's and Beethoven's ninth
@adriatico79417 жыл бұрын
Grabación clásica por excelencia
@davidbrandes72352 жыл бұрын
Magnificent performance, as they are no longer heard. Magnificent ending!
@jonathanturner29603 жыл бұрын
I have a sort of love/hate relationship with Furtwangler. I'm really not keen on the way he pulls tempi about and often his music has this speeding up and down quality rather like when you drive your car over speed bumps. But the more I listen to his music the more I realise how hugely influential he was on performing techniques in the 20th century. I think he really influenced how orchestras sound all over the world today. When i listen to von karajan's recording of later years I can still hear a lot of Furtwangler in the orchestra's performance. He built on what Furtwangler did. Without Furtwangler, Karajan's orchestra would not have sounded as it did.
@juanuceda401
3 жыл бұрын
Indeed. Listen to Karajan's live recording in Moscow. Karajan and Furtwängler weren't different. The problem is people tend to judge Karajan based on his digital recordings, which are far from what Furtwängler did.
@alvarolozanogutierrez66167 жыл бұрын
Probablemente el mayor director de orquesta alemán del siglo XX Wilhelm Furtwängler.
@bernardodejesuslopezrodrig6102 жыл бұрын
Una excelente interpretación de la obra de Beethoven necesitamos más cultura.
@superpanpan20039 жыл бұрын
Aplausos eternos para el gran: Wilhelm
@manusilva47904 жыл бұрын
Muchísimo hermoso ♥️
@andreaskern42796 жыл бұрын
Spätensten hher löst sich die Rhytmik hinsichtlich Ausdruck auf.Ein Wegbereiter ohne Gleichen
@jinnymudlark18156 жыл бұрын
Just listened to Toscanini's. This is as fine, just in a different way. I think I do prefer this slightly slower pace. All the greats - no complaints.
@Interspirituality
9 ай бұрын
Bloody time-beater! 😊
@delflorida2480 Жыл бұрын
It's conducted freely, like an Opera.
@cortootify7 жыл бұрын
This is just what I wanted to hear how it should be interpreted this valuable piece. I never know a performance more than by the greatest conductor, Futwangler.
@gerardbegni28067 жыл бұрын
Clearly the best version of this famous symphony, in spite of the poor recording tools of the time. What an inteligence in the details and in the global architecture !
Ancora una volta, mentre ascoltavo questa immortale meraviglia, sono stato raggiunto da un miserevole ANNUNCIO ; naturalmente mi asterro' dall'acquisto del prodotto annunciato ovvero dalla fruizione del servizio proposto !!! Se sono cosi' cafoni, i loro prodotti e/o i loro servizi sono di infima qualita'!!! SIC !!!
@justdev89655 жыл бұрын
I've always wondered what the musicians that performed this symphony for the 1st time ever in the history of mankind must have felt, you know I mean the 1st performance ever in front Beethoven. Now that must have been a sensation so sublime.
@serbanpopescu1032
7 ай бұрын
They were stressed out and completely spent. It was too much, with rushed rehearsals and scores still wet. I don’t think that they realized that they were part of the greatest show the world has ever witnessed: Beethoven’s 5th and 6th symphonies, the 4th piano concerto, and, IIRC, the Fantasy for piano, orchestra and choir.
@MrVincent5378 жыл бұрын
Furtwängler's interpretation is as just individual, as all the other conductor are not able to interpret this music so as Beethoven had meant. Furtwängler's interpretation is the nearest interpretation to the original music as Beethoven concieved it in his head. Thanks to Furtwängler we can hear the Beethoven's music as Beethoven himself probably heard his music for the first time in his head. In any case I personally feel the most comfort hearing Beethoven interpreted by Furtwängler, a comfort which I don't experience by no other conductor till now.
@JohnBorstlap
8 жыл бұрын
+Paul Doron "Furtwängler's interpretation is the nearest interpretation to the original music as Beethoven concieved it in his head." How do you know?
@MrVincent537
8 жыл бұрын
Because Furtwängler's interpretation is in comparision to the others the most expressive and the most in concordance with Beethoven's muscal intention.
@JohnBorstlap
8 жыл бұрын
That's merely repeating the first saying. Again: how do you know that .... is in concordance with B's musical intention? We have only the score and a tradition and different interpretations. So, more than one interpretation is possbile also if the score is meticulously followed.
@MegaClassicguy
8 жыл бұрын
Heinrich Schenker the greatest music theorist of German music said that Furtwängler was the only conductor who truly understood Beethoven.
@JohnBorstlap
8 жыл бұрын
MegaClassicguy Maybe, but Schenker wrote, next to a couple of good ideas, also a lot of nonsense, so we should think for ourselves.
@user-vn7rn5yr6n8 жыл бұрын
Hello, thanks for posting... Absolutely amazing... As it should to be.. nothing more to say... Tell me please, is this version officially released on CD??
That's just mean who Beethoven is! And so "fate knocking at the door!"
@PanzerDave10 жыл бұрын
When and where was this performance? It has been a while since I listened to my 1943 Berlin recording of this, but this sounds like it could be that version.
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Electrifying! I am 77 but this was like hearing Beethoven's 5th for the first time. Fresh, clear, powerful and totally alive. Never heard W. Furtwangler before. This goes beyond the bravado of Bernstein and precession of Von Karajan. I feel like I've just met the soul of Ludwig for the first time. Bravo master Furtwangler! Bravo... where ever you are.
@TheSirot
Жыл бұрын
Please try Beethoven Symphony No 9 Furtwängler 1951 or 1942...both are the best
@davidzhang3009
Жыл бұрын
I listened to the both, 1942 was even better, the best
@andysoul295
9 ай бұрын
Beautifully expressed
@geraldhowse8597
7 ай бұрын
He's dead.
@charlesdavis7087
7 ай бұрын
You're funny. Of course he is dear, but a part of his soul he shared with us still lives. It was recorded, thank god. @@geraldhowse8597
Forse sono un nostalgico ma queste vecchie interpretazioni ( Celibidache, Solti, Walterecc.) mi emozionano.le recenti mi dicono poco. Mi scusino i bravissimi giovani direttori.
@francomassarut4888
2 жыл бұрын
Concordo con te caro Fabio
This is the best, and after 70 years I do not say that lightly ...
@opera93
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I am 73 years young, though latecomer to Beethoven @ age 20...... let you know on more of Furtwangker, etc.....
@opera93
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, interestingly I like Furtwangler’s artistry …..somehow missed Him, in 1960s-80s I listened to BERNSTEIN, & CHICAGO SO, etc….
@user-mx5hl2ux1y
2 жыл бұрын
вряд ли возможно лучшее исполнение, хотя Аллаху и больше доступно
@jonnlennox4176
2 жыл бұрын
mmm, I would say better that Furt is the best interpreter of Beethoven's fifth. and of course the ninth etc. How can you say that this is "better" than the one on May 27, '47?
@rfalv
2 жыл бұрын
@@jonnlennox4176 I don't wouldn't say that ... That's incomparable ... I was generalizing about his 5ths ...
...an overwhelmingly powerful performance. It is impossible to explain why Furtwangler's Beethoven is so uniquely, so utterly persuasive.
If you close your eyes during the lead up to the 4th movement, then open them after the first 30 seconds, the feeling afterwards is surreal. It's like you were on a different planet filled with pure emotion.
Beethoven's music is primal. It reaches deeper into our minds than any other composer's music. No other composer has that impact on me. And Furtwangler interpreted Beethoven the best. They both climbed highest and saw furthest.
@notherOlivia
Жыл бұрын
My cat agrees. We just compared v. Karajan, Barenboim and F. W. He’s best cause he lives it.
The music pulses and blazes
the genius of Furtwangler,directly from the hands of GOD. giving us this beautiful interpretation of the fifth.
Furtwängler was the best conductor!
@angelosala5048
3 жыл бұрын
Un grande interprete il migliore fino ai nostri tempi .Sara'difficile sentirne un altro.
This is Beethoven in all his elemental power and glory.
Never heard anything better.
Everything in this performance is close to perfection---tempo, expression, sound volume crescendo and decrescendo. After enduring war, chaos and starvation, these people came back to play like this.
@geraldhowse8597
7 ай бұрын
They played it all through the war in Germany
正確であり、緻密、ダイナミクス、一貫性のどれをとってみても完璧。ベートーベンが目指した天文学への橋渡しとしての音楽の最終形といえる歴史上最強の音楽家。涙が止まらぬ。
@kome1976
2 ай бұрын
正確であり、緻密、ダイナミック、一貫性、全てを見て完璧 彼慎一郎の、はっとりくん、バカボン 彼が目指した人生の最終型 歴史的偉業、歴史的人物 涙が止まらない
Ok, I was a von Karajan fan until I heard the warmth, power, the beauty of this- so alive. Grateful to have found it on here and thanks all for the wonderful commentary.
@Interspirituality
2 жыл бұрын
Everyone goes through a Karajan phase before they discover Furtwangler :D
@Fritz_Maisenbacher
2 жыл бұрын
And now, try Carlos Kleiber.
@charlesdavis7087
2 жыл бұрын
This was my first time hearing anything done by Furtwangler's, let alone his interpretations of Beethoven's 5th. It was like I'd never heard it before. Instead of Beethoven pounding on the Gates of Heaven demanding entrance, this was like Beethoven himself took me by the hand and opened the Gates... just for me. Never have I heard it so alive. For me, this truly was one of those transcendent moments that touches upon things eternal.
Wow. Criminal to interrupt this with actual COMMERCIALS. Whoever thought it was a good idea to interrupt Beethoven's 5th with commercials should be jailed.
@replyhere590
4 жыл бұрын
Complain to the advertiser. Many Adv mgrs would be steamed if they knew the offending timing of their ads.
@clavichord
4 жыл бұрын
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@AfroPoli
3 жыл бұрын
It’s a public service announcement telling you what not to buy.
@jpablognzlz2628
2 жыл бұрын
brave browser
@alex669953
Жыл бұрын
@@AfroPoli I would better buy
Furtwangler and Beethoven: I never heard a messenger so consistent with a message !!
El mejor Director de todos los tiempos, el inolvidable Wilhelm Furtwängler
Furtangler, like no other, gets into the heart and mind of the composer. This symphony is about grandeur and majesty, therefore never hurried nor its full voice muted under the baton of this master interpreter.
No tengo palabras para expresar mi emoción cuando escucho esta sinfonía dirigida por el extraordinario director Wilhelm Furtwängler. Y en particular esta grabación de 1954 . Todos los detalles de la dinámica son perfectos! La orquesta responde maravillosamente cada gesto del director, ambos son un sólo ente... ! ¡Gracias por publicar esta maravilla!
The point is that Furtwangler was not a nazi, anymore than Lenny was responsible for Viet Nam or Slatkin for Dick Cheney. What should a famous artist do when evil tyranny suddenly takes over the country? What's the correct answer to that one?
Unequalled. Superbely flexible, well balanced, creative, daring, dynamic, poetic, declaratory...
if he had've lived into his 80's, it would've been a very different world of classical music. so close to stereo too.
best interpretation ever i think
Pretty damn exciting! To comment on but one of WF's tactics here: The fact that the last part of the finale's stretto is actually performed rallentando, coupled with the brief pause just before the final chord, makes the coda thrilling.
La quinata sinfonia di Beethoven e' stata, nella mia giovinezza, la mia devozione per la musica sinfonica .
Just discovered Furtwangler conducting Beethoven's 9th. I always loved (still do) Von Karajan. However!! The transition from the third to fourth movement is The Most wonderful and intense!! Perfect!!!
Listen from 6:50 to the end of the first movement. LIFE and DEATH!!! Furt. said "the most important thing a musician must avoid is routine>. He performed this work over 200 times in his career, and he came to it each time in a humble spirit, as though for the first time. No matter how often he performed a score, he re-studied, and re-thought it. He's my hero, as both artist and man. (San Shirakawa's bio, The Devil's Musicmaster, is absolutely essential reading.)
@wilwal3236
4 жыл бұрын
His Great Secret --- Humility and LOVE---Dr William Johns
Beethoven est ici , en personne, bien présent ; ô perfection...
simply perfect
Yes. That's definitively mind blowing. Great!
It is the man who can represents Beethoven himself.
One of the greatest B5 performances ever recorded. Superb.
a really great 5th of beethoven. Furtwängler was at beethoven, brahms, wagner (isolde with flagstadt) unbelievable.
@CanadianMonarchist
Жыл бұрын
He was great at Mozart too.
@Ileana5173
4 ай бұрын
Inolvidable, perfecto,el mejor director de siglo xx
名演! ほんと素晴らしい!
A 85 ans, j'ai entendu de nombreuses interprétations de cette célèbre 5ème de Beethoven et je dois avouer que peu m'ont laissé aussi enchanté que celle que je viens d'entendre. S'il est indéniable que Furtwängler soit un grand chef, la gloire en l'occurrence ne revient assurément pas qu'à lui seul, la prestation de l'orchestre étant exceptionnelle et la prise de son, voire la remasterisation qui relèvent de véritables prouesses techniques pour arriver à un tel résultat n'y étant pas pour rien ! La fusion de tous ces éléments aboutit à un résultat rare mais j'estime que comparer ici le chef avec von Karajan par exemple n'est pas du tout convaincant, tant il a existé antérieurement et existent présentement d'autres grands chefs, les premiers n'ayant pas joui hélas pour flatter l'oreille des mélomanes quelque peu avertis, des moyens techniques dont on dispose aujourd'hui. Je suis en effet littéralement époustouflé quand j'écoute des CD qui reproduisent des enregistrements réalisés au départ de rouleaux Edison !!!
The Best compositeur et chef d'orchestre ... résultat sublime!
This is the best version of Furtwängler himself. He should have lived for at least another fifty years, and his interpretation of Beethoven and of all other componists whould have reached a level and a complexity of expression which no other conductor could reach.
The permanent preservation version!
Amazing Furtwängler LG from Austria 💘♪🤓❤🎼😚😊
grazie infinite!!!!!!
A real eye-opener.
Wonderful recording, though I still prefer Carlos Kleiber's interpretation with the Vienna Philharmonic.
Rodrigo-san,I agree with yo 100% completely. Also, your straight talk have us be comfortable..... thx !
This is the best version of the Symphony Ive ever found. The Orchestra is like an intrument and all the elements (colors, movement and direction, pauses and breathings, etc...) are under a total control feeling. Nothing is a casuality. Furtwängler didnt forget the passion, the feeling and the personality of Beethoven. This is simply wonderful. :)
@hansh.gruendel7877
5 жыл бұрын
even better for me: kzread.info/dash/bejne/Z5lh0MlmprjNZrg.html
Extraordinaire....
Impressionante! Bellissimo! C'ertamente il testamento artistico del più grande interprete beethoveniano.
delivering the mad Ludwig in all his revolutionary fury
It's like being a child again. You hear this and you remember the first time you heard it. You didn't know about all the different styles of interpretation and all the music theory, you just knew this is Beethoven's 5th and that's how it's played. By listening to Furtwangler's version you realize that there's no doubt that Beethoven himself would have played it like this. Karajan is good, of course, but his version can't even compete with this in my opinion.
@marionkiker1346
5 жыл бұрын
Beethoven's conductor.
@pierrederveaux1529
2 жыл бұрын
J'ai fait la même expérience que vous, J.R, et j'ai la même impression. Merci de l'avoir aussi bien dit.
Great. Furtwangler has been called the master of transitions. He is said to have worked and worked on them in rehearsal. I think because he realized how important they are to the music. His "heavy" chords are another thing. He supposedly didn't want razor sharp precision because a slightly staggered entry by different instruments gave the chords that body and weight which you can hear in this performance. The Only Furtwangler performances available used to be the Studio version with VPO ,1952 I think and the May 27th 1947 BPO version. The variety on UTUBE is a joy for me after being so limited for so long.
@PanzerDave
10 жыл бұрын
The June 1943 version recorded live in Berlin has been available for some time. The first time I saw it was on a vinyl album but later I bought the same album on CD. www.amazon.com/Beethoven-L-Symphonies-Furtw%C3%A4ngler-1942-1944/dp/B00BFHUBXI/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1394743312&sr=8-5&keywords=furtwangler+beethoven This CD also includes Beethoven's symphonies numbers 3-7 and 9 as well as two of his overtures; the Coriolan and the Leonore #3. It is a great album and the recordings are superb.
@philipkuttner7945
5 жыл бұрын
Yes, the chords do gain body and weight. But Beethoven could have notated the instruments to stagger their entrances; instead he wrote them all to play at once. These chords remind me of very old-fashioned pianists who used to roll all their chords. Aside from the messy chords (and some messy ta-ta-ta-DAH's), it's a fine performance.
Furtwangler's interpretation is very individual but it seems to me that he emphasizes the parts of Beethoven's symphony that a lot of us non-genius people in the seats remember in our minds when we "play" The Fifth in our heads. Listening to this, its almost like hearing the symphony again for the first time, one of the greatest experiences of my life 60 years ago.
@johnsunde4339
4 жыл бұрын
And I thought Karajan and Bernstein were the epitome?
@rfalv
3 жыл бұрын
You're just used to hearing post 1950 garbage ... the spiritual world is gone ...
Bravo, dynamic Furtwangler
...prava Peta...to je to!
BRAVO! BRAVO!
the greatest conductors of the 20th century, Furtwangler and Carlos Kleiber .
@12brunoparis
3 жыл бұрын
You could watch the video of Giulini with LAPO....
Great! Furtwangler
благодарю!великий и гениальный!
ECCELLENTE!
SI EL GRAN BEETHOVEN FUERA A DIRIGIR ESTA SINFONÍA LO QUE SE ESCUCHARÍA SERÍA EXACTAMENTE ESTA MAGNA VERSIÓN DEL MÁS MAGNÍFICO DE LOS DIRECTORES DE ORQUESTA , WILHELM FURTWANGLER
Ahhhhhhhhh. Exquisite.
Delightful!
I love those souls who do not give in to their fate.
Estupenda 5 de Beethoven, con el cracteristico sonido de Furtwangler
Best ever.
The greatest conductor of the 20th century.
Con Furtwängler, definitivamente uno escucha a Beethoven
Easily the greatest conductor of the 20th century. Too bad he wasn't well known outside of Europe! The americans treated this genius like dirt after the war.
@florincoter1988
9 жыл бұрын
Jeff Davis Right. The Americans teat a lot of thing like dirt and a lot of dirt like things...
@gomagoma313
9 жыл бұрын
Furtwangler is still appreciated in a far-east, Japan. His recordings are reissued over and over. His mastery knows no boundary.
@andrews582
8 жыл бұрын
+Florin Coter Gosh, we Americans are such awful people! Sheesh!
@larsbrp
8 жыл бұрын
+Thomas Andrews As a matter of fact USA did not let fleeing jews in Dyring the second world war. We are some people who cannot forget that. Now you treat mexicans almost line slaves. Did you really think the rest of the world did not notice? No, USA is not perfect.
@florincoter1988
7 жыл бұрын
NO, you are not awful. Just do mistakes like any, but on a grander scale. Let me remind you that Churchill did not want to stop at Berlin, but Moscow. Roosevelt, if my memory does no fail me, did not agree because good business was the prospect for the Russians. The rest is sad history. And let's not talk about Oscar award, etc...
Beethoven, il mio entusiasmante amore !
Probably Furtwängler last performance of this symphony before he passed away the same year 1954.
Over a half century has passed since the performance but the soul in the rendition is unchanged. After listening to about 10 different versions of Beethoven's 5 fifth, I find this the most moving one. Eventhough the sound quality isn't up to par with recent recordings naturally. It is simply more music in Furtwängler's version than the other's I've listened to so far eventhough they all share the same notes.
Hi Jeff, Yes, the best conductor in Beethoven 5th. I agree with your point of view. Samuel Lee / Los Angeles
I think that Furtwängler was one of the most greatest conductors.
Bravo)))
TE BEST,THIS WAS EVER:WILHELM THE BEST PERFORMER OF BEETHOVEN MUSIC.
Un estilo define la vida de todos. Beethoven tuvo el suyo propio, así, con inmensa sabiduría lo interpretó Furtwangler, e hizo lo increíble: inmortalizó a ambos. Todo un estilo, un poder, una energía, sello incontrastable. Hasta siempre,
@hugogerardofortunato8777
10 жыл бұрын
Totalmente en desacuerdo, Furtwangler no interpretaba a Beethoven, Furtwangler ejecutaba a Beethoven, un insolito festival de tiempos amanerados que hacen a la obra inconsistente y no refleja la vitalidad y la genialidad de lo escrito por Beethoven, acentuado ademas por pasajes de sonoridades secas opacas y asperas. Todo lo contrario se encuentra en Herbert von Karajan, tiempos justos y uniformidad de principio a fin, pura vitalidad, brillo y poder.
@renato45222
10 жыл бұрын
Hugo Fortunato Furtwangler è un caso a sè stante nella storia della direzione; Karajan si iscrive - almeno con più senno e più finezza filologica ed estetica - nella scia di Toscanini, Walter e, prima di loro, Nikish e Hans von Bulow.
@francescaemc2
9 жыл бұрын
Hugo Fortunato go listen to Karajan... nobody is stopping you.
@renato45222
9 жыл бұрын
Dopo Furtwangler e Karajan sentite cosa ha fatto di certi capolavori beethoveniani un certo Toscanini Arturo, ovvero il più favoloso di tutti i tempi. Ma l'invito so benissimo che è perso.
Furtwängler is the best and I'm sure Beethoven would agree. I wish we could ask him. Let alone what he does with he volume and how he switches between instruments during what's usually a solo.... What a shame they didn't have better microphones and mediums back in the day... *close to tears*
@qwertyuiop-ke7fs
8 жыл бұрын
+rationalconscience In my opinion Beethoven might be confused by the size of the orchestra and the slower post-romantic tempos and rich textures given by the newer instruments. Maybe he would have liked it, maybe he would have thought it was bullshit. 150 years is a long time and frankly I think music reinterpreted in a different cultural context should be listened to more for the interpretation than for how well it would please its original composer. I listen to Furtwangler's Beethoven for Furtwangler and less for Beethoven.
@Warstub
3 жыл бұрын
@@qwertyuiop-ke7fs Basically the same reason I listen to Klemperer's recordings. There's a Mendelssohn/Schubert recording on The Klemperer Legacy, and the 2 symphonies recorded have never felt so sublime through any other conductor I've listened to.
Grazie
i've heard this piece so many times and i have to say this is my favorite interpretation. Particularly the 1st movement for me a list of my top interpretations would be 1. Furtwängler 2. Bernstein 3. Kleiner I honestly cannot enjoy Karajan's interpretation. i have no words to describe it other than soulless.
@jyhshyonglin9793
5 жыл бұрын
Soulless , too commercial and too dominating
@marionkiker1346
5 жыл бұрын
@@jyhshyonglin9793 Fully agree on your statement and Karajan falls far short of Furtwangler in interpreting and performing Beethoven.
@grahammummery4353
4 жыл бұрын
I can enjoy Karajan's intepretation. But above him I would put Furtwangler, Klemperer, Bernstein, Nikisch, Szell, Kleiber (both father and son), Jochum, Rattle, even Menuhin
這比1943 年還指揮得深沉。聽得我全身抽搐,淚流不止。
Incredible. This makes me never want to hear Herbert von Karajan's cold, heartless interpretation again. (And yes... too bad we can only imagine this with 21st century recording technology.)
@maraboo72
7 жыл бұрын
I refuse Karajan since I heard his version of Liszt's Hungarian Rhapsody Nr. 2 some 40 years ago. After that he was done for me. Stupefying jawdropping how this man could take the fire out of music. Before that I had his Ravel's Bolero. It's ok if you don't know another version. But I know some.
@Jimserac
7 жыл бұрын
Precisely. von Karajan is too mechanical, as though a computer were the conductor, excising all that is human and/or spiritual from the rendition. Once was enough for me and I was DONE with him. Ozawa seems the same to me. Likewise, Barenboim makes great pretensions at creativity while being the same as von Karajan in my opinion. He ruined DuPre's ethereal creativity and play, again in my opinion, by over controlling her. He had her wound up tighter than a broken clock but still her feeling managed to shine through.
@jackhousman6637
7 жыл бұрын
I've heard three different Karajan recordings of the Brahms Requiem. One is deadlier that the other. In one, he takes the baritone solo movement so slowly, that the young, fresh Hans Hotter has to take extra breaths, between the normal ones. K. sleepwalks through the entire work until the fugue in the second to last movement, at which point someone, like the recording producer, must have come up behind him and kicked him hard in the pants, because he suddenly wakes up and starts making actual music. He's supposed to be one of the all-time greats, but his recordings have always left me absolutely cold.
@pierre-louischevillon7197
7 жыл бұрын
Novaes g
@mmm48398
6 жыл бұрын
Furtwangler had a strong jealousy against Karajan. It is evidence that he had to admit Karajan's genius. To be jealous of a young man younger than 20 years, I think Furtwangler is small as a human being. Even if such a person plays, sound and soul are muddy. Beethoven is sorrowful in the other world.
Brillante , es de genios ! . Un verdadero placer escuchar esta obra maestra tan bien orquestada y dirigida.
@davidzhang3009
Жыл бұрын
Yes, it's genius! Also, there is a book named the german genius
furtwängler said : i like the trippel B ..... bach, beethoven , brahms
@clavichord
4 жыл бұрын
Well, I like the quadruple nines; Schubert's, Dvorak's, Bruckner's and Beethoven's ninth
Grabación clásica por excelencia
Magnificent performance, as they are no longer heard. Magnificent ending!
I have a sort of love/hate relationship with Furtwangler. I'm really not keen on the way he pulls tempi about and often his music has this speeding up and down quality rather like when you drive your car over speed bumps. But the more I listen to his music the more I realise how hugely influential he was on performing techniques in the 20th century. I think he really influenced how orchestras sound all over the world today. When i listen to von karajan's recording of later years I can still hear a lot of Furtwangler in the orchestra's performance. He built on what Furtwangler did. Without Furtwangler, Karajan's orchestra would not have sounded as it did.
@juanuceda401
3 жыл бұрын
Indeed. Listen to Karajan's live recording in Moscow. Karajan and Furtwängler weren't different. The problem is people tend to judge Karajan based on his digital recordings, which are far from what Furtwängler did.
Probablemente el mayor director de orquesta alemán del siglo XX Wilhelm Furtwängler.
Una excelente interpretación de la obra de Beethoven necesitamos más cultura.
Aplausos eternos para el gran: Wilhelm
Muchísimo hermoso ♥️
Spätensten hher löst sich die Rhytmik hinsichtlich Ausdruck auf.Ein Wegbereiter ohne Gleichen
Just listened to Toscanini's. This is as fine, just in a different way. I think I do prefer this slightly slower pace. All the greats - no complaints.
@Interspirituality
9 ай бұрын
Bloody time-beater! 😊
It's conducted freely, like an Opera.
This is just what I wanted to hear how it should be interpreted this valuable piece. I never know a performance more than by the greatest conductor, Futwangler.
Clearly the best version of this famous symphony, in spite of the poor recording tools of the time. What an inteligence in the details and in the global architecture !
@hansh.gruendel7877
5 жыл бұрын
try this: kzread.info/dash/bejne/Z5lh0MlmprjNZrg.html
@lemagiciendhambourg3397
3 ай бұрын
C'est Furtwängler mon cher Gérard!
Ancora una volta, mentre ascoltavo questa immortale meraviglia, sono stato raggiunto da un miserevole ANNUNCIO ; naturalmente mi asterro' dall'acquisto del prodotto annunciato ovvero dalla fruizione del servizio proposto !!! Se sono cosi' cafoni, i loro prodotti e/o i loro servizi sono di infima qualita'!!! SIC !!!
I've always wondered what the musicians that performed this symphony for the 1st time ever in the history of mankind must have felt, you know I mean the 1st performance ever in front Beethoven. Now that must have been a sensation so sublime.
@serbanpopescu1032
7 ай бұрын
They were stressed out and completely spent. It was too much, with rushed rehearsals and scores still wet. I don’t think that they realized that they were part of the greatest show the world has ever witnessed: Beethoven’s 5th and 6th symphonies, the 4th piano concerto, and, IIRC, the Fantasy for piano, orchestra and choir.
Furtwängler's interpretation is as just individual, as all the other conductor are not able to interpret this music so as Beethoven had meant. Furtwängler's interpretation is the nearest interpretation to the original music as Beethoven concieved it in his head. Thanks to Furtwängler we can hear the Beethoven's music as Beethoven himself probably heard his music for the first time in his head. In any case I personally feel the most comfort hearing Beethoven interpreted by Furtwängler, a comfort which I don't experience by no other conductor till now.
@JohnBorstlap
8 жыл бұрын
+Paul Doron "Furtwängler's interpretation is the nearest interpretation to the original music as Beethoven concieved it in his head." How do you know?
@MrVincent537
8 жыл бұрын
Because Furtwängler's interpretation is in comparision to the others the most expressive and the most in concordance with Beethoven's muscal intention.
@JohnBorstlap
8 жыл бұрын
That's merely repeating the first saying. Again: how do you know that .... is in concordance with B's musical intention? We have only the score and a tradition and different interpretations. So, more than one interpretation is possbile also if the score is meticulously followed.
@MegaClassicguy
8 жыл бұрын
Heinrich Schenker the greatest music theorist of German music said that Furtwängler was the only conductor who truly understood Beethoven.
@JohnBorstlap
8 жыл бұрын
MegaClassicguy Maybe, but Schenker wrote, next to a couple of good ideas, also a lot of nonsense, so we should think for ourselves.
Hello, thanks for posting... Absolutely amazing... As it should to be.. nothing more to say... Tell me please, is this version officially released on CD??
@Tsotne91
4 жыл бұрын
www.amazon.co.uk/Furtwangler-conducts-Beethoven-Symphony-Philharmonic/dp/B000003O7K
Remarkable weight of tone.
That's just mean who Beethoven is! And so "fate knocking at the door!"
When and where was this performance? It has been a while since I listened to my 1943 Berlin recording of this, but this sounds like it could be that version.