BEER BREWING WATER CHEMISTRY Explained SIMPLY | How to BUILD A WATER PROFILE for a Beer

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Probably one of the best things you can do to take your beer to the next level is to customize the brewing water you use - and its easier than you think! Water is often overlooked in favor of other ingredients in beer, but it makes up 97% of a beer and affects all aspects of it - appearance, aroma, mouthfeel and flavor - so much so that John Palmer wrote an entire book on it! So why do we ignore it? Probably because most times it's explained, it's a deep dive into complicated chemistry and is never explained simply - which is what we’re going to do here. Water Chemistry can be a truly complicated and intimidating subject for novice homebrewers. I know I didn’t want to get into it at first because I thought it was extremely complicated. Well, the truth is its actually a lot easier to understand than you might think. We’re going to keep it high level here and in simple terms, but in this video I hope to help you figure out what each ion will do to your brewing water, how to develop your own water profiles, make adjustments to your brewing water and how to measure and adjust pH.
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0:00 Intro
1:25 Dealing with chlorine and chloramines
2:30 What each ion does and how much you need
6:42 What brewing salts you need
7:55 Mash pH Basics
10:27 Determining your base water profile
12:26 Walkthrough for building a water profile using Brewer's Friend
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  • @TheApartmentBrewer
    @TheApartmentBrewer3 жыл бұрын

    One thing to add: The min and max concentrations for each ion are really just a guideline - don't feel like you need to always be in that range.

  • @kommi1974
    @kommi19743 жыл бұрын

    I've been a homebrewer for a few years now, and for me, Brewfather has the most intuitive and user friendly water profile calculator I've used. Additionally, the software itself put Beersmith to bed for me. Easy = no stress on brew day.

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think brewing software is really getting better, beersmith is kind of getting left behind.

  • @nekaiionera

    @nekaiionera

    3 жыл бұрын

    Novice homebrewer here, I just recently switched from BeerSmith to Brewfather, I've used it for about 7 brews now, versus 30+ brews with BeerSmith. Hands down, Brewfather water profile tool is much nicer, and well, almost any other feature is nicer. I almost regret I didn't give Brewfather a try way sooner.

  • @zachariemccrary7734
    @zachariemccrary77343 жыл бұрын

    I don't know how anyone could dislike this video, you gave helpful information to all brewers and even a small lesson in science to people who may not be brewers. Great video, Steve. I always find myself coming back to this one specifically on brew day just to double check my steps. Thanks for all of the uploads!

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    3 жыл бұрын

    I appreciate that! I'm glad you are getting good info out of the video!

  • @SteveT__001

    @SteveT__001

    2 жыл бұрын

    There are anonymous idiots everywhere, personally I disliked it twice ;)

  • @jonmccombs1711
    @jonmccombs17113 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic job and very informative!

  • @merce5434
    @merce54343 жыл бұрын

    This video has been the kick for me to get into water chem. Suddenly it doesn’t sound overcomplicated, and just generally hard anymore, thanks a lot!

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    3 жыл бұрын

    Exactly what I was hoping I could do for folks! Give it a try!

  • @TheBruSho
    @TheBruSho3 жыл бұрын

    Great simplified look into water chemistry! I know it can be very confusing and this definitely made it digestible.

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the feedback, I really appreciate it!

  • @johnsikking4891
    @johnsikking48913 ай бұрын

    I appreciate this easy to understand explanation. Keep these informative videos coming.

  • @StratoJohn
    @StratoJohnАй бұрын

    I know this video is 3 years old now but it's great and one to save for useful information. My Input for anyone brewing in the UK: 1) Very cheap RO water is available at spotless water, initially set up for window cleaners but so useful for brewing! 2) be careful with the brewfather water calculator. I made the mistake of clicking "auto" and not really checking the values, but it recommended lots of additions and still never reached the target profile 😂 Have fun brewing all

  • @robbelore5111
    @robbelore51112 жыл бұрын

    FINALLY! Finally a simple approach to water chemistry, I have asked a lot of people that brew and usually just get either shrugged off or super in depth complicated BS that doesn't really help me, this video is 100% on point for me! Thank you for posting this, I will definitely be using this approach on my next brew!

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    2 жыл бұрын

    Glad I could help!

  • @zachfischer3148
    @zachfischer31483 жыл бұрын

    I am just getting into all grain brewing and the first one I wanted to try was a NEIPA. I have been stressing out about water profile to obtain that perfect haze as I haven’t taken a chemistry class in 15 years. Thank you for posting this cheat sheet. Can’t wait to get brewing!

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad I could help out! Believe it or not that haze has less to do with water than you might think. You're gonna get a lot more stability with the combination of a high protein grist, a biotransforming yeast and large amount of dry hopping to get those polyphenols to bind with the proteins. Then you'll have a completely opaque beer that stays that way!

  • @daviegraham4483
    @daviegraham44833 жыл бұрын

    Great video, one of the most useful water chemistry videos i have viewed. Glad to have found this channel, simple instructions and very informative

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's awesome! I'm really glad I could help you out!

  • @birdybro9403
    @birdybro94033 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for breaking this down, It is very much appreciated!🍻

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    3 жыл бұрын

    Awesome! I'm glad you enjoyed it!

  • @clintstevenson1214
    @clintstevenson12149 ай бұрын

    This video was insanely wonderful. I am one of those brewers who fight water chemistry. I have used this calculator before, but this has been a tremendous help! another satisfied watcher/subscriber Thank you!

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    9 ай бұрын

    I am so glad it was helpful!

  • @dimash244
    @dimash2443 жыл бұрын

    you were correct to assume, you had to make this video! from all the brewing channels on here your video was actually the easiest to follow and made more sense! Made a lot of notes as i watched :) Thanks for making this!

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the kind words, I'm really glad I could help you learn!

  • @gerardnatale2387
    @gerardnatale23873 жыл бұрын

    Your last water chem vid was what inspired me to get into dealing with my brewing water. Well that and the fact that my efficiency was so bad. Getting the PH meter and calibration solutions was really the first step. I'm still figuring it out but can definitely see an improvement. By the way, nice shirt! That place is incredible! Their beers make me think of Spring!

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! I'm glad I could help you take that step, it's crazy how much of a change it can make. Keep it up! Ommegang beers are among my favorites!

  • @erikcarlson1318
    @erikcarlson13183 жыл бұрын

    As usual your content is extremely informative and helpful. Now time to get into my brew shed in here in Massachusetts and start brewing again!!

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it! I'm a bit jealous of the idea of a brew shed!!

  • @alibronx2112
    @alibronx21123 жыл бұрын

    Very clear and useful info in here! Thanks for sharing

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm glad you enjoyed it!

  • @TwoandaHalfPintsHomebrew
    @TwoandaHalfPintsHomebrew3 жыл бұрын

    Nice and straightforward breakdown. I feel like water chemistry is something you have to practice a few times and then it becomes second nature just like building any other part of your recipe. I personally use Bru'n Water which seems intimidating at first but is pretty easy once you get the hang of it. Brewers friend is my back up for when I'm on mobile but there was one time it was pretty wonky on the acid additions and luckily from experience I knew something was wrong. I'm sure they've sorted out that issue by now. Keep up the good work!

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    3 жыл бұрын

    It definitely takes a minute to get the hang of it, its kind of interesting to see who likes which water chemistry tool. They each have their own strengths and weaknesses. Thanks for watching!

  • @DGPHolyHandgrenade
    @DGPHolyHandgrenade2 жыл бұрын

    Good tip for beginners there with the city profiles as a general guideline. I've gone down that rabbit hole and if you're starting with RO water, it feels impossible with chemicals we have available to us to actually nail a particular specific city water profile. It's far better to know what the chemicals do, as described in the video, and make your adjustments based on what you want the finished beer to be and work towards that goal.

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah sometimes the extra high bicarbonate levels in places like London aren't always easy to hit with distilled or RO water. Glad you enjoyed the video!

  • @Cerevisi
    @Cerevisi2 жыл бұрын

    Doing gods work, Steve. Keep it up! Everyone new or seasoned in homebrewing can benefit. Thank you for your service(s).

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    2 жыл бұрын

    I appreciate the support! Very glad people are able to take away some useful things from my videos!

  • @Cerevisi

    @Cerevisi

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheApartmentBrewer I've been homebrewing all grain since 2008, preceeded by 2ish years of partial mash/extract. If there's good information out there, I always appreciate the effort to share. The homebrew community by enlarge is the most patient, sharing community. We've all been there, and we're all trying to make better beer. Everyone/anyone can make beer, making great beer is harder. Easier though, when we share tips and techniques.

  • @johnjeong4340
    @johnjeong43403 жыл бұрын

    Great video! Thanks for putting it in super simple terms.

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching!

  • @Duo_Seraphim
    @Duo_Seraphim3 жыл бұрын

    fantastic intro into water chemistry for brewing! Well done and cheers!

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching, cheers!

  • @Bullsbrew551
    @Bullsbrew5513 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for another informative video. I only have two all grain brews under my belt and have used BeerSmith for my water chemistry which has worked out well but I do like Brewersfriend and will probably use that for my next brew. Cheers!

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    3 жыл бұрын

    I really think its a bit easier to understand than Beersmith, glad you're enjoying the videos!

  • @ianlaker9161
    @ianlaker91618 ай бұрын

    Steve, thank you so much for this video. I've watched it before but didn't take detailed notes. Having just formulated a recipe, I feel I now have a lot more control over the water treatment and that I probably need to get a more up to date analysis from the lab I use here in the UK - Murphy and Sons. Their service is excellent and their recommendations for style very good but I can now tweak with confidence!

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    8 ай бұрын

    I'm glad you found it so useful!

  • @jongerenski1545
    @jongerenski15453 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the brewers friend water calculator demo. I have been wanting to delve into this but didn’t know where to start. Thinking I’ll try to use some salt additions on the next hazy I brew!

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad I could help!

  • @Loren_Le_Rouzic
    @Loren_Le_Rouzic3 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video as per the norm! Although it’s fun to learn about regional water profiles like Burton-on-Trent and how it shaped the styles we all love (my city Edmonton is particularly excellent for stouts) I fully agree with starting at RO or distilled, and building up to a specific profile. It leaves me with complete control over the result, and helps me eliminate a couple potential sources of oopsies if something goes wrong.

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching and glad you enjoyed it! Yeah I really don't think I'll be going back after working with distilled!

  • @westcoastbestcoast7683
    @westcoastbestcoast76833 жыл бұрын

    great video dude! The impact of water is really underrated and this was a clear explanation! I've been using the bru'n water spreadsheet but I'm going to check this out, it looks easier to use.

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching! I used to use brun water as well but I kinda stopped after discovering brewers friend. Cheers!

  • @TheDuffman6582
    @TheDuffman65823 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this video, very helpful!

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad I could help!

  • @chrismonk7627
    @chrismonk76273 жыл бұрын

    Liked and subbed! Great channel and useful info man 👍

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    3 жыл бұрын

    Awesome, thank you so much!

  • @HOMEBREW4LIFE
    @HOMEBREW4LIFE3 жыл бұрын

    great video, cheers steve!

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    3 жыл бұрын

    Cheers CH, thanks!

  • @CarlPapa88
    @CarlPapa882 жыл бұрын

    Checking out Water Chem brewing videos in anticipation of starting to BIAB. Thanks for delving into Brewer's Friend especially. I use it to calculate OG for thrown together experiments and other hypothetical recipes I try out. Mainly wine, cider, & mead maker ATM. So I skipped over the water profile stuff on there so. I'll definitely have to label my bags of adjuncts with their chemical names, but will come back for a refresher when I get to brew day. I'm interested in nailing a good Cream Ale down, but will adjust for lack of wort chiller for now.

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm very glad I could help out!

  • @jamesbates7457
    @jamesbates745710 ай бұрын

    Excellent. Thank you.

  • @Rtollinchi
    @Rtollinchi2 жыл бұрын

    Great great video very informative thank you for education

  • @dexterne
    @dexterne3 жыл бұрын

    Definitely an improvement over your last water chem video and probably the most practical one I've seen so far. Cuts through some of the BS of "conventional wisdom". Great tips on ignoring historic city profiles, the logarithmic nature of ph, and the roles of each ion and salt in the process. I personally don't see the need to test so often or to bother with a ph meter. Have you ever had either of these tell you something that allowed you to save a brew? Btw I do use chalk, but I always have a keg of high carbonated water on tap for my wife and kid's italian sodas, so dissolving it isn't a big deal for me.

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    3 жыл бұрын

    Oh yeah its just a little better haha. Glad you appreciated the way I put it together and learned something! And to answer your question, actually yes, ph measurements have indeed helped me improve a brew. I wouldn't go so far as to say it "saved" anything, but it's sure allowed me to get a much better beer than otherwise

  • @bigjplay
    @bigjplay3 жыл бұрын

    Outstanding video! Very helpful info! Your channel is really one of the most informative anyways and this only adds to that! Would you recommend baking soda as a good way to add sodium?

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it!! As far a adding Sodium, I would heavily encourage you to just add a few grams of regular non iodized table salt instead. Baking soda will change the mash pH

  • @radiologicphysicist1083
    @radiologicphysicist10833 жыл бұрын

    Solid video.

  • @scottmckinnis5250
    @scottmckinnis52503 жыл бұрын

    Very helpful. Thank you.

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad I could help!

  • @scibierhomebrewery
    @scibierhomebrewery3 жыл бұрын

    Great video! Congrats!!!

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @ElementaryBrewingCo
    @ElementaryBrewingCo3 жыл бұрын

    Great informative video!

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching, cheers!

  • @Quinny1394
    @Quinny13942 жыл бұрын

    So my tap water is around 9-9.1 PH, I've set each of my upcoming recipes to auto in each of their style of beers, in brewfather and come up with what to add to the strike water, im new to all grain and this will be the only time I've considered water chemistry, my tap water tastes great but I do have chloramine in my water, like you said you don't taste it in the water till you taste your finished beer with it in, I have a mate that has been doing all-grain for years, he gives me alot of advice and he is probably why I'm getting into all-grain, before that I've just been doing quick extract brews and mini mash/ steeps with specially grain but I'm confident I know how to brew all-grain lol. I was looking at clawhammers 240v system but ended up getting something more local, the brewzilla 35 litre 3.1.1 at kegland here in AU. Cheers 👍🍻

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    2 жыл бұрын

    Glad you're learning more! Water makes a huge difference

  • @paulkaster564
    @paulkaster5649 ай бұрын

    Love your videos. I have a spreadsheet with my water profile and tried to compare to your ion recommendations and the recommendations in the John Palmer “How to Brew” book. The 2 ranges differ greatly. Please advise

  • @BitterRealityBrewing
    @BitterRealityBrewing3 жыл бұрын

    Excellent job.

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @erikmadrid8838
    @erikmadrid88383 жыл бұрын

    Super helpful video, thank you! Question for you… I typically do a sparge. Would I be better off doing treatments to my mash water and sparge water separately? Or could I make the treatments for the entire beer’s water volume all in the mash - that way I’m only worrying about this once per brew session? My guess is it should be done indivudally for each step, as to not risk having the mash PH be off… but perhaps I’m over thinking it and it can be done more simply with the one treatment.

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    3 жыл бұрын

    You're totally fine adding all your salts to just the mash water, or splitting between the mash and sparge. Either one works.

  • @socemdogbrewingandgastropu8288
    @socemdogbrewingandgastropu82883 жыл бұрын

    Hey great video. I have heard so many different ideas on water chemistry. I heard last week that 10 to 1 Cl to SO for NEIPA! This is from a guy with an in house brewery and makes really good beer. I just want to clarify that you are talking the entire amount of water going through the grain or just the mash water. Mash water is mentioned almost all through the video. Thanks

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    3 жыл бұрын

    With NEIPA recipes its really up to personal preference. I've had great NEIPAs with almost no bitterness or balance made with 4:1 Cl:SO4, and some with a bit of bitterness (the way I like them) do well with a more balanced profile. And you should really treat the entire volume of water that is being used, in my case the mash and sparge water are the same, but for folks who use three vessel, just treating the whole hot liquor supply should do the trick. Cheers!

  • @orange-micro-fiber9740
    @orange-micro-fiber97402 жыл бұрын

    I've watched a few water vids and this one finally clicked. Thanks. Also, my water is low in sodium and sulfates. Sodium sulfate is a thing, but it's not listed and I've never heard another brewer talk about it, and brewers friend doesn't even have a field for it. Have you hear anyone talk about it?

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    2 жыл бұрын

    Glad I could help you out! I think the reason sodium sulfate isn't used that much is probably that you're going to overdo your sodium levels way before your sulfate levels. 90% of the time people are just trying to add sulfates or chlorides, and sodium has a low flavor threshold as well

  • @ruggend
    @ruggend3 жыл бұрын

    Great video! Quick question about the SO4-s. I have read that in the report from ward labs this number needs to be multiplied by 3 since they report the sulfate as sulfur. Do you know if that's correct? Thank you.

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    3 жыл бұрын

    If that is exactly how it is shown in your water report, then follow Ward Labs' instructions.

  • @JusBrewing
    @JusBrewing3 жыл бұрын

    Considering taking the plunge into Water Chemistry. I'll likely do a comparison (Austin, TX tap water vs distilled vs distilled with salts) and will likely stick with what gives me the best tasting beer!

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    3 жыл бұрын

    Do it! It makes a huge difference!

  • @tazsnuts99
    @tazsnuts992 жыл бұрын

    Love the brewery shirt

  • @nukkumatti3043
    @nukkumatti30433 жыл бұрын

    Excellent information! About campden tablets, do you crush them? Do you need to let the water sit after adding them before adding malts? I have powder form stuff (potassium metabisulfate).

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think I used to crush them but it really doesn't matter as it will dissolve on its own. I would usually would let the water sit for around 20 min

  • @derekp6636
    @derekp66363 жыл бұрын

    urg, the big freeze killed my RO system so I'll be starting over. Nice timely upload

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad I could help out!

  • @caseykitchen6850
    @caseykitchen68502 жыл бұрын

    Thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you many thanks sir thank you. My brain turns to mush as soon as ions and chemistry gets involved, but this made so much sense. You teach better than my former HS chem teacher 🤣

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm more than happy to help!

  • @EtherealPrelude
    @EtherealPrelude2 жыл бұрын

    Do you have a workaround for getting the profile you want without using chalk? I was playing around with the online calculator with the Porter/Dark Ale profile and I couldn't find a combination of additions that got the Calcium levels where they needed to be without using chalk. Also, thank you so much for posting! This video and the rest of the content you produce is very helpful.

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    2 жыл бұрын

    I try to use baking soda/sodium bicarbonate to get the bicarbonate content I need instead of chalk. Generally works pretty well

  • @LakshayKukreja11
    @LakshayKukreja113 жыл бұрын

    Me watching your first video ever as a new home brewer - **clicked away within a couple mins because it got too technical too quick** Me coming back a week later - **clicked away before finishing half the video for the same reason** Me getting more educated from simpler videos and having more space for more technical stuff and coming back the third time - "Okayy!! This is starting to make sense!" Me now (3-4 weeks into learning about brewing) - "Fucking love this dude! He's a genius!"

  • @justusbar7597
    @justusbar75973 жыл бұрын

    I'm not brewing yet but I love your videos. Greetings from Germany! What did you like most about European beers and what do you prefer when it comes to US beers?

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoy the channel! Love the amazing flavor variety of European malts, love the piney resinousness of American hops!

  • @user-mr9tw6dj6h
    @user-mr9tw6dj6h3 жыл бұрын

    good vid. water in my place is not safe to drink off tap. we will need to boil it off before drinking. my water company do not publish the water report so we all have no idea whats in the water. im a novice. i will be getting a filter to start. i leave my water over night and pre boil, cool it down to mash temp before brewing. perhaps i should also look into campden. is there any tools out there that lets me test the level of each minerals in water? im still struggling to get those external minerals to adjust the profile

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'd recommend looking into purchasing a water test kit for your tap water so you know what you're working with. There's a link in the description for a LaMotte brewing water test kit that should help you out

  • @homingscone
    @homingscone3 жыл бұрын

    Really enjoy your videos!! How much lactic acid or bicarbonate do you add at a time to decrease or increase mash ph? I have 80% lactic acid.

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    3 жыл бұрын

    It depends, I have 65% concentration lactic acid so I would add it to a bowl and measure by weight, usually only a few grams for either

  • @jenzu_h8798
    @jenzu_h87983 жыл бұрын

    I just can't get distilled water. Our tap water is really good though so that is what I have been using. So far I cant find any bad taste that I could track down to water so is this anything I should be lookin after from now on? Every recipe so far has turned out so great.

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    3 жыл бұрын

    If youre happy with the way your water is working now, thats great! If you can send your water in for a lab analysis or get a test kit, then you can customize it further for the beer you brew, but otherwise that sounds pretty great!

  • @hazydaze.brewery
    @hazydaze.brewery3 жыл бұрын

    Good job 👍

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @MarcoCanever
    @MarcoCanever Жыл бұрын

    Olá (hi)! Excelente vídeo! What u think about ascorbic acid (C vitamin) to deal with cloramines?

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    Жыл бұрын

    Never heard of using that for removal of chloramines. I usually recommend a campden tablet to remove chloramines, which is potassium metabisulfite

  • @Jango1989
    @Jango19893 жыл бұрын

    Great video. Just need to calibrate my pH meter now!

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @tommiebartley3081
    @tommiebartley30812 жыл бұрын

    Is there a chart or poster for a newbie to visually see what different additions change each value?

  • @estock15
    @estock153 жыл бұрын

    I mash in a cooler and batch sparge, can I add all my salts in the mash water or should I put some in my sparge water as well? Trying to keep things as simple as I can on brew days.

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes, absolutely. You can honestly do either as you wish. I prefer to put them all in the mash though since it just makes it easier.

  • @djuanesg2756
    @djuanesg27563 жыл бұрын

    Gratis explanation. Congrats

  • @djuanesg2756

    @djuanesg2756

    3 жыл бұрын

    Great explanation. Congrats.

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching!

  • @TheMattMustain
    @TheMattMustain3 жыл бұрын

    How would this process be different if you weren't doing an all-in-one BIAB and sparging instead? I started with distilled water, input the Yellow Balanced target from Bru'n Water, and added salts to get the results I wanted. All green and pH are good after adding some lactic acid to the mash. However, I don't have to add any salts or acid to the sparge water?

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    3 жыл бұрын

    You will be fine adding everything to the mash water. If you want to collect some water set aside for your sparge and treat both your mash and sparge water as well that is another way to do it, but either works fine

  • @apack76
    @apack763 жыл бұрын

    I ran water profile calculator on Brufather and Brewer's friend on the same style of beer I want to brew. The salt amount (gypsum, baking soda, etc) is quite different when I compared the two programs, but the pH is similar. Any advice why the amounts are different? I am leaning towards Brewer's Friend based on your suggestion, but just wondering the cause of the different amounts.

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    3 жыл бұрын

    Strange, my only guess would be that the two calculators make different calculations for pH adjustment.

  • @codebowl
    @codebowl Жыл бұрын

    I think I may have finally ruined my first batch of beer! I made a cream ale that I was going to fruit in secondary. During the mash I added 2 ml of lactic acid stirred and waited a few minutes then checked the PH again, didn't seem to help so I then added 2 more ml. Again the PH was solid at around 6.2. I thought I would add 1 more ml and then the PH went down to 5.3 which I thought was a good number. After the boil I put the wurt into my fermzilla, pitched my yeast and pressurized to 15lb. After a week primary fermentation was done so I tossed in 3lb of smashed up strawberries (previously frozen whole). I left them in the fermenter for 3 days and then pulled them. I allowed the beer another day to clear up again from the fruit. I then made a really amateur move. I pulled my empty keg from inside my keezer and did a closed transfer of the beer from room temperature into a cold keg. SHM it took a while and it was foaming like crazy. I put the filled keg into the keezer and allowed it to get cold. I went for a taste test and found that the beer is really thin. I mean really thin. Kind of like a white claw, it appears to be VERY VERY crisp and too much for my liking. I think the acidity of the fruit made the beer even more acidic. I am wondering if you have any tricks that may fix this, if not I am going to attempt to drink it but it's not quite pleasant to drink, not because it is bad but just not my thing. A cream ale is supposed to have a full mouth feel and creamy but this is a very very light mouth feel like drinking sparkling stuff!

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm sorry to hear that! pH is a huge part of beer flavor and mouthfeel!

  • @HLBmusix
    @HLBmusix3 жыл бұрын

    Oh yeah, and i can recommend the EZ Watercalculator. Just google it. It's a excel spreadsheet that's pretty detailed. You can chose to dilute your tap water with destilled water, if you want, wich is really handy. Plus: It gives the best prediction of your mash ph in my experience, so check that out, if you like.

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    3 жыл бұрын

    Great suggestions, thanks for sharing!

  • @iamonky
    @iamonky3 жыл бұрын

    ok so i made a mistake today causing 236 ppm of Ca, 336 ppm sulfate, and 160 ppm chloride in my water. what will this high ca level do to my beer? was aiming for a sierra nevada pale ale. thx

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    3 жыл бұрын

    You'll probably end up with somewhat chalky tasting beer. However, it's probably not going to be as bad as you think.

  • @williamhardin8550
    @williamhardin85503 жыл бұрын

    Hello what about using pickling lime aka calcium hydroxide to raise your mash pH??.

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    3 жыл бұрын

    This is another good option as well, I just don't usually use it

  • @steliosspyroglou8469
    @steliosspyroglou84693 жыл бұрын

    Great explanation. One question: the water in my area is pretty high on carbonates (usually > 280 mg/L). What additions should I go for to bring them down?

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think you would need to pre boil your water and that may precipitate some of them out

  • @steliosspyroglou8469

    @steliosspyroglou8469

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheApartmentBrewer I see, thanks for the fast reply!

  • @marct9444
    @marct94442 жыл бұрын

    Hi, whats your opinion about only treat the water for the final galons that you want? For sparge water only acidificate at the pH that you want. Finally when you finish the boil you have the profile of water that you want and the salts for the galons that you want. There aren't sals for 8 galons, only for 5 galons and its the goal. Thank you and cheers!

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    2 жыл бұрын

    I 0refer to treat all the water you use for the brew day by adding salts to the mash only, accounting for sparge water and the water that gets absorbed by the grain. So even if I am only ending up with 5 gallons of wort at the end, I'll calculate water additions for all 8 gallons of water to avoid risk of dilution, pH changes etc.

  • @kermets
    @kermets Жыл бұрын

    Hi, my brew taste Bitter and im sure its not from the hops as im adding a very small amount would I have a high Sulphate to Chloride Ratio in rain water to make this happen ?

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    Жыл бұрын

    Check to make sure you don't have a pH issue before looking at sulfate vs chloride. Rain water has all sorts of stuff in it

  • @SunePedersen88
    @SunePedersen882 жыл бұрын

    I have a pretty high bicarbonate level of 236ppm in my tap water here. This leaves me with a residual alkalinity of around 140ppm. Having brewed now for around 2 years I still find my pale'ish beers somewhat lacking. I am adjusting each brew with a buttload of phosphoric acid during the mash and I am hitting the target pH and gravities as I should. But would going with RO or another less minirally water source improve the end product?

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    2 жыл бұрын

    Depends on the kind of pale beer. IPAs and pale ales and hoppy beers will benefit from that type of water with a little extra adjustment. But for pale lagers and more delicate beers you would probably want softer source water. But sounds like your mash chemistry is on point, I bet you make awesome darker beers!

  • @apack76
    @apack762 жыл бұрын

    When is the best time to test pH? I always thought to test pH after adding brewing salts then dough in when the target pH is attained. Is this a wrong step? I have noticed one homebrewer testing the pH of the wort after mashing.

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    2 жыл бұрын

    You should be checking pH around 5-10 minutes after mashing in, not before, since malts will affect the pH.

  • @NunoAlves0000
    @NunoAlves00003 жыл бұрын

    Great video! How accurate is the predicted pH by BrewersFriend vs the actual measurement ? Asking for the ones like me that don’t own a pH meter

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    3 жыл бұрын

    Its kind of varied for me in the past. Depends on the beer but usually its within 0.2

  • @NunoAlves0000

    @NunoAlves0000

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheApartmentBrewer cool, aim for 5.4 then and get it between 5.2 and 5.6

  • @davidharbin6115
    @davidharbin61153 жыл бұрын

    When I use the grist pH properties are based on beer color, my ph drops to 4. I can't raise the ph without adding to much baking soda. If i use grist info based on grain bill it goes back to like 5.5. whats going on? I'm trying to make a tripel and I'm trying to use the beer color but the ph changes drastically.

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thats odd, considering its such a light color beer. Are you entering the grist color values in EBC, Lovibond or SRM? I believe the calculator only works in Lovibond. The individual grain option is ultimately what I use to generate accurate pH predictions.

  • @davidharbin6115

    @davidharbin6115

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheApartmentBrewer First I make the recipe for the beer and then go to water calculator link when editing the beer recipe. From there I go to grist info and put in grain weight and SRM. i use SRM on my beer recipes. When i enter in the weight and srm, the ph drops from 5.6 to 4. when i change the option back to grain bill it changes back to 5.6. I don't see an option for lovibond. Do you link your beer recipes to water chemistry calculator?

  • @seriomarkj
    @seriomarkj3 жыл бұрын

    Idc if you don't care...I'm a still ganna like the video! Love the content, starting to explore water chemistry so great vid

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    3 жыл бұрын

    I do care, and I appreciate it! Thanks!

  • @RiggerBrew
    @RiggerBrew3 жыл бұрын

    where are you getting your water salts from?

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    3 жыл бұрын

    Typically just order them online or pick them up from a local homebrew shop

  • @AlexFagan31
    @AlexFagan312 жыл бұрын

    What PH Meter do you use now? Don't mind spending more if it's durable and accurate

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    2 жыл бұрын

    Apera pH pen. Should be listed on my amazon store if you are curious.

  • @elienassar1035
    @elienassar103510 ай бұрын

    When you say Epsom, can I use Epsom Salt that I get from the grocery store?

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    10 ай бұрын

    Only if it is food grade. Not all Epsom salt sold at the store is food grade

  • @MRW3455
    @MRW34553 жыл бұрын

    So I would value your insight. I RO my water (London water is great for dark beers but not light one's or lagers) I use Brewfather recipe calculator including water target style which gives me my salt additions for a 5.2 - 5.4 PH. Yet every time the mash overshoots by. 0.5ish and its about 5.85. I would welcome any ideas as to why?

  • @ElderNerd

    @ElderNerd

    3 жыл бұрын

    What is your water pH before any salts are added? You might have a lot of residual alkalinity left even after your RO system has treated your water. If that's the case, the simple way to correct that is to add some phosphoric or lactic acid to your mash to lower your pH. www.brunwater.com/water-knowledge is a good deep dive into water chemistry that can explain it better than I can.

  • @MRW3455

    @MRW3455

    3 жыл бұрын

    hi I should have added that information last time i looked a couple of brews ago it was about 6.90

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    3 жыл бұрын

    If its primarily a pale grist, you may still need to add some acidulated malt to the grist, or use some lactic acid to correct. I'm not immediate sure why thats behaving the way it is, try using a few different water calculators with the sale recipe and see if there is any variance. I'm assuming you're calibrating the pH meter as well, but if it's not recent it might be worth doing again

  • @MRW3455

    @MRW3455

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheApartmentBrewer Hi If it is ok, I am going to brew Wednesday. I have two (getting paranoid now) calibrated PH meters. I shall take readings and I have a Brewfather calculation I should hit and I will report back after if things go as I suspect for you to see if I'm missing anything. Cheers

  • @MRW3455

    @MRW3455

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheApartmentBrewer so I brewed as discussed and obviously the mere threat of your assessment was enough. A pair lager and I aimed for 5.21 and got 5.32. Good enough. Huzzah 😊

  • @thebird36
    @thebird363 жыл бұрын

    I prefer to use bru n' water for my water adjustments. It's free but not updated, however, you can pay the developer $10 for an updated version and is updated more frequently. It's very advanced but very easy to use.

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    3 жыл бұрын

    Each software has its own strengths and weaknesses, I'm a sucker for a good UI though, that was what drive me away from bru'n water and beersmith

  • @thebird36

    @thebird36

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheApartmentBrewer I use brewers friend and considering making the switch to brew father. I just prefer bru n water because of the amount help it provides and how much customization you have. It also takes a lot of factors into play. I do agree on the clunkiness though, but I can handle it for that lol

  • @leroygross9144
    @leroygross91443 жыл бұрын

    How do you like that ph meter?

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    3 жыл бұрын

    So far I have no complaints!

  • 3 жыл бұрын

    As alife long aquarist/fish keeper, I found a perfectly good ph meter on EBay for $5.99 cnd all in.

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nice find!

  • @codebowl
    @codebowl2 жыл бұрын

    So I have a question, in the beginning you state Chlorine and Chloramine taste like a rubbery garden hose, then at 2:06 you say you can taste Chlorine but not Chloramine. From what I have read they both have a rubbery taste. If you truly cannot taste chloramine why would you remove it from your water? I am assuming you mis-spoke at that point but wanted to ask for clarification incase I am incorrect.

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's a great question. Yes you can taste chlorine but chloramine is relatively flavorless, however the effect they have on beer is the same. It comes down to how they interact with the ingredients in beer and they will both cause flavor problems.

  • @codebowl

    @codebowl

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheApartmentBrewer THanks for that clarification, I will be sure to work on my water profile (once i figure out how to read my towns water report lol) but for now I will use a campden tablet or a mixture of potassium metabisulfite

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@codebowl it's an easy way to be sure!

  • @matiasd5216
    @matiasd52163 жыл бұрын

    Hi man. Why are you talking so fast in your last videos? It defies my English. But you do have an excellent pronunciation and I enjoy your videos and take some ideas from there.

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching!

  • @evilchubchub
    @evilchubchub3 жыл бұрын

    Do you have links to where to buy all of these minerals?

  • @ElderNerd

    @ElderNerd

    3 жыл бұрын

    Any decent brewing supply shop should have them on the shelf. And if nothing else, there is always Amazon.

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'll echo this. The LHBS should have these, but amazon is going to probably be the best way to go. You can buy in bulk and cheaply.

  • @cfs363
    @cfs3633 жыл бұрын

    what scale do you use for measuring your salts?

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm using this one: amzn.to/3uIRgRJ It's pretty precise to the gram level but only rounds to whole grams

  • @cfs363

    @cfs363

    3 жыл бұрын

    hey thanks for the speedy reply, one last question are brew shops the only place to buy the food grade salts mentioned?

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    3 жыл бұрын

    You can find them pretty easily on Amazon as well, just search for each salt followed by "brewing"

  • @Kberrysal
    @Kberrysal3 жыл бұрын

    Have you ever used Five Star 5.2 Ph Stabilizer before

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    3 жыл бұрын

    No I haven't, but for the most part I've avoided it because it seems to have some mixed reviews

  • @thebird36
    @thebird363 жыл бұрын

    also don't use too much magnesium unless you really don't like people- laxative effects

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    3 жыл бұрын

    I've never experienced this in the past but I'll have to look into it, would that really happen with like 3-10 ppm?

  • @thebird36

    @thebird36

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheApartmentBrewer oh no, you need like 30+ but at 30 ppm can affect flavor

  • @connorvickery4662
    @connorvickery46627 ай бұрын

    Is filtered rain water almost 0 in most minerals?

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    7 ай бұрын

    Not necessarily. There are a lot of things in rainwater though that would make me very hesitant to use it for brewing.

  • @maureydion1150
    @maureydion11502 жыл бұрын

    Hello. What Ph pen do you use?

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    2 жыл бұрын

    When I made this video I was using the Melendez beverage doctor pH pen but I've since upgraded to an apera pH pen that I really enjoy

  • @maureydion1150

    @maureydion1150

    2 жыл бұрын

    Which one is it? Sorry.

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@maureydion1150 this is the apera one I use (Apera Instruments AI311 Premium Series PH60 Waterproof pH Pocket Tester Kit, Replaceable Probe, ±0.01 pH Accuracy www.amazon.com/dp/B01ENFOIQE/ref=cm_sw_r_awdo_navT_g_Q1QDPW18ERD5HC2NRD88) but the Kegland beverage doctor is a bit cheaper and works just as well. That one is linked in the description

  • @maureydion1150

    @maureydion1150

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you man. Awesome videos by the way keep it up.

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! Glad I could help!

  • @HLBmusix
    @HLBmusix3 жыл бұрын

    I never got the chalk thing anyway. Even if it is in solution, it will drop out of solution after the boil and leave a chalky kettle behind. I heard the argument, that it's good for stouts or porters, because you want a high mineral level, but it's not even making it's way into the fermenter, so it's kinda useless to me

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah chalk can be difficult to get to work. I used it for a while and it didn't work great

  • @thomasmurphy1907
    @thomasmurphy19078 ай бұрын

    Locally reversive osmosis water is .50 a gallon when you fill your own.

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    8 ай бұрын

    If you have it in your area. Not the case everywhere

  • @thomasmurphy1907

    @thomasmurphy1907

    8 ай бұрын

    Love your content! I haven't brewed in over 20 years and the first batch I'm bottling this weekend is your Kveik Pilsner. Very excited. @@TheApartmentBrewer

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    8 ай бұрын

    @@thomasmurphy1907 welcome back to the hobby!!

  • @MadZer0
    @MadZer03 жыл бұрын

    Campden is sodium metabisulfite not potassium but they do the same thing

  • @TheApartmentBrewer

    @TheApartmentBrewer

    3 жыл бұрын

    I believe they come in both sodium and potassium metabisulfite forms but I've only ever seen the potassium ones

  • @markrose53
    @markrose53 Жыл бұрын

    A “massive” theoretical impact or a “readily” discernible one

  • @fryertuck6496
    @fryertuck649611 ай бұрын

    5 stage water filter at home. No contaminants in my brews.

  • @noway2831
    @noway2831 Жыл бұрын

    So, you're supposed to control six variables (ions) with five degrees of freedom (salts)? That doesn't make much sense

  • @Greg-ii6nq
    @Greg-ii6nq10 ай бұрын

    Water makes 97% of a beer? That beer would need to be less than 3% alcohol by volume.

  • @Greg-ii6nq

    @Greg-ii6nq

    10 ай бұрын

    Really well explained though

  • @kevinburnett9619
    @kevinburnett9619 Жыл бұрын

    How bout Fluoride, arsenic and all the other crazy stuff that comes in tap waters in the U.S.? Do you have a source that I can find what commercial beers use clean water (R/O or spring water)?

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