QB'S ain't the problem, it's the lousy Coaching staff!

@itscoldinwinter1

8 ай бұрын

It's beyond that, they owners need to sell to a group that actually wants to win

@theone-ds7iz

8 ай бұрын

Also the Mccaskys

@wade2xx552

8 ай бұрын

No the qb are apart of the problem too

@TheMultiolddude

8 ай бұрын

👊🏾👊🏾FACTS!😑

@ramirezmanuel117

8 ай бұрын

Lousy coaching, Lousy front office, Lousy ownership.

These Bears front office people are destroying the club

@Bekz00

8 ай бұрын

Should we be surprised

@smokeworld4l74

8 ай бұрын

No it’s not front office ppl it’s the coaching staff

@Bekz00

8 ай бұрын

@@smokeworld4l74 yea, they picked the clowns coaching

@fredofromchicago777

8 ай бұрын

It has been destroyed for over 10+ years.

@mcfact1827

8 ай бұрын

Don't forget ownership

Finally some Chicago sports talk radio that is speaking rationally.

@mikecruz5389

8 ай бұрын

I wish I could slap the thumbs up on this a million times. I’ve sensed this kind of nonsense since the Roquan debacle. I didn’t like Poles and I couldn’t figure out why. This justifies those feelings I had.

@kubbykush9401

8 ай бұрын

​@@mikecruz5389oh , you didn't like that Claypool trade?

@MrNewstyle23

8 ай бұрын

It’s amazing that someone is speaking the truth!

Thank you for speaking truth. Tired of the Chicago QB drama. Hoping Fields can move on from this dumpster fire of a franchise. Bears have Bagent, possibly Williams or Maye to carry on with poor coaching, a piss poor defense, and team surely in need of more line help on both sides. Chicago fans deserve the QB carousel for another decade if you think this teams record of 5-27 is just due to Fields play.

@turo3066

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for this. Saw the Jets ruin Sam Darnold, the Browns ruin Mayfield (Freddie Kitchens anyone?) and the Dolphins almost ruin Tua. Just to name a few. It's astounding how arrogant and stubborn this coaching staff is when they haven't accomplished jack shyte

@p1xke729

8 ай бұрын

i hate being a bears fan, 90% of this fanbase is clowns who havent watched a game in there life. Its NOT on fields, get the brotha a coach who can make it happen (Jim Harbaugh)

@santaclause3487

8 ай бұрын

@@p1xke729lol. Fields is getting traded. Sooner or later.

@jamesnelson8469

8 ай бұрын

Fields has had the exact same problems since he was a freshmen at Georgia, just sayin.

@Diggittey

8 ай бұрын

5-27 and you’re carrying this guys water. You can’t see how technically flawed he is! He’s athletic with a strong arm but every other qb intangible he does not have.

Been a Bears fan all my life and I honestly wonder when the organization will pull it together. The saga continues

@skipjohnson7255

8 ай бұрын

If you're waiting for the McCaskeys to pull it together you'll be waiting a long time !

I have been saving it all along. It's the coaching. If the coach can't make the team better,is not doing his job.

@kubbykush9401

8 ай бұрын

The ownership is not helping either.

🤔Last Year, After 4 or 5 games I thought to myself.... Luke Getsy doesn’t look like a good coach...and Justin was hinting at that Last Year.

@toxickingchristian2645

8 ай бұрын

It was pretty obvious last year. Run-run- Justin bail us out on 3 and long. Dude is not cut out to be a play caller and the fact he hasn’t been fired yet is testament to the clown show this organization is

@mcfact1827

8 ай бұрын

Well Fields is correct.. right

15 years of rebuilding. We have had Trestman, Nagy, and Eberflus. The organization refuses to spend the money on a legitimate and proven coach. They don’t have to. They know that sports in Chicago are followed religiously regardless of production. And here we sit.

@christopherstevenson6823

8 ай бұрын

Exactly

@mcfact1827

8 ай бұрын

​@@timcusack9388 what do you mean...nagy tried to change the culture

When Justin got hurt, I predicted the win against the Raiders - not because Bagent is better, but because Getsy can call plays for Bagent. He has a similar style of play to Rogers. I don't think Getsy will ever be able to tap into Field's potential. If we keep our current coaching staff, it would be better for the Bears and for FIelds if they part ways. Even though I'm hoping they keep Fields and lose the coaches, that means starting over.... again. Food for thought... what would Field's numbers be if we had a consistent defense? If we didn't end up with 2nd and 16 every other set of downs? If we had more than one decent receiver? Then there's the LA game with Bagent. First play should have been a TD (bad zebra). First INT was a miscommunication, but lets put it on Bagent. Second INT was bounced off of Mooney's chest. He should have had another TD, but VJ can't walk and chew gum at the same time. It should have been a 300 yard, 2 passing TD, one rushing TD, one INT game. Woulda, shoulda, coulda. Now Bagent knows what it feels like to be Justin Fields. Only in Chicago.

@kylepayne4707

8 ай бұрын

Fields would be much better in this scenario, but that would not fix his inability to make simple pre snap reads and adjustments on the fly. For the record, I'm a fields fan and with the right staff he could be a very good QB but he still has significant gaps in his game.

@Jasper118

8 ай бұрын

Getsy called an awful game against the chargers. They forced him to throw 15+ out routes, some of the hardest throws to make in the NFL especially against an aggressive CB. We didn’t throw a slant, a post, a drag and I think only one seam. Nevermind the bad personnel and situational call, Kmet against Bosa on a 4th and one is insane. Kmet is the softest dude on the team

@robertbrown1021

8 ай бұрын

Kid not bad but it Ludacris to think he should start over Fields, imagine if Fields is good with all the draft capital they would win the division next year

Tyson is like Jim Miller with Jim McMahons swag

All of Bagents throws the the sideline looked like the get there slow. He’s got an ok arm and really good touch. DBs are going to start jumping those throws.

@mrlaw711

8 ай бұрын

He doesn't have an OK arm...not for the NFL.

@itscoldinwinter1

8 ай бұрын

He has a water pistol for an arm. No zip on the ball at all

@bigfootlochness

8 ай бұрын

@@mrlaw711 he’s got an arm that is fine for the NFL but limits what he can do. Arm strength isn’t everything, but I think we all had seen his limited arm’s strength even before last night.

@graysonbuttercheeks3136

8 ай бұрын

This literally makes no sense…they put a speed gun on both left and right hash throws for all the participating quarterbacks at the combine and his ball velocity was as good or better than Stroud or Richardson. He just wasn’t drafted and is on a bad team. Same with JF1 this team is awful for him.

@byrdgang74

8 ай бұрын

They were jumping them last night there was plenty of almost interceptions last thst the chargers defense just dropped

When was the last time a team had back to back to potentially back first round bites at top quarterbacks draftees, and failed to do anything with them? Always looking for greener pastures and passing the blame. Good thing for Patrick Maholmes Bears passed on him.

@Kozart2lit

8 ай бұрын

@@timcusack9388sadly he has Matt Nagy as his offensive coordinator now 😭

@Kozart2lit

8 ай бұрын

Also came out kliff kingsbury was coaching leveraged and not actually defenses and coverages

@kyokonkyochin3648

8 ай бұрын

Browns, Jets, Lions off the top of my head

@JJ-zr6fu

8 ай бұрын

Mahomes would’ve forced the bears to build around him. A good qb which fields isn’t wins or shows he’s a winner even if his coaches suck

@nickcoklan3491

8 ай бұрын

Jets went Sam Darnold to Zac Wilson. Jaguars went Blaine Gabert to Blake Bortles. Vikings went Christian Ponder to Teddy Bridgewater.

I told everybody it was coaching and now the world see this whole fan base owe Justin Fields an Apology

@CoffeeeNBears

8 ай бұрын

Not really. Pick a different sport to watch

@Deeznutz705

8 ай бұрын

@@CoffeeeNBears coming from a narcissist I get it

@KamKing19

8 ай бұрын

Everything in balance, we need a new OC who can develop and grow with their QBs.

@RoseCurry5

8 ай бұрын

​@@wewinninrecords2001nah, a lot of them are straight hating him and hating on him right now.

@SHKDWN79

8 ай бұрын

Been saying this since game 1 last season fire getsy and send flus out with him

As a life, Chicago Bears fan, this is really upsetting me that we finally found a franchise quarterback, and instead of good coaching, figuring out a way to use his talent. They're manipulating the media, and using a back up quarterback as a prop to justify their reasoning for not putting their franchise quarterback in a position to succeed.

@VicInNocal

8 ай бұрын

A franchise QB who can't read defenses

@kingpark3805

8 ай бұрын

@@VicInNocal he can read defenses it's been proven over and over again . This statement is tired and old

@dwaynemayweather3634

8 ай бұрын

Very well said!!!!!!

@aaronrogers4533

8 ай бұрын

We got that once the switched the center as bagent came in

@wentzr

8 ай бұрын

i agree. it's been really upsetting.

We sure got to see what Bagent can do operating the offense the right way and getting rid of the ball quickly to the tune of 7 points..

@georgecostanza9213

8 ай бұрын

They didn’t score till the second quarter don’t call that quick.

@Mike-jv4rz

8 ай бұрын

@@georgecostanza9213 Refs blew the call on Mooney - potentially a quick score on the first play.

@jonnyp7978

8 ай бұрын

There were some huge plays that robbed Bagent of some nice highlights. He played better than the stat sheet, but Fields should still be the guy. The media’s bs agenda is just that. The Bears (Flus and Bagent themselves) made it clear that it’s Fields’ team when he comes back. Period. The media can believe it or not, but it doesn’t matter. What the media wants is irrelevant, they don’t know anything about managing a team or a roster. That’s not the media’s job, but they do have some fair and valid points that the Bears will eventually (soon) have to make a decision on whether to stick with Fields and extend his contract or move on with someone else. Bagent’s been hyped up (some of it, rightfully so) but he’s a rookie backup at this point and anything beyond that is highly unrealistic.

@BuckLax3

8 ай бұрын

Plenty of drops and short-yardage runs getting stuffed. A rookie backup lighting the scoreboard on fire is 99.99% of the time not happening. LA picked the defense apart and controlled the entire game. If you were rooting for a young backup to fail, your bias is as easy to see as much as the delusional people labeling Bagent the heir apparent after one game. Seems most Bear's fans need to take a breath or get some pills cause you're all over the place.

@rhdtv2002

8 ай бұрын

Bagent at this point is light are ahead of Fields in year 1. It’s not even close

This is the problem with these sport talk shows. Bagent is a undrafted rookie back up who earned his spot on the 53. Justin is injured and will be back in there when he's ready. Fans get overemotional and the media thrives for that type of reaction so they can spend there time, and ours talking about it. They love to create narratives because that's what sells. Why can't we just allow things to play out, let Justin get back in there and spend the rest of the year making his case and be happy we have a young hard working kid to sit and develop behind a starter, and either be a solid career backup or maybe even a starter once he's had time to work and get better? Has a fan I want both to succeed, and there's nine games left.

@turo3066

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for being an intelligent fan

I knew it!!! It's not Justin! It's not Bagent....it's the coaching

Our problem (Chicago Bears) is the culture, the organization isn't built or believes in dynamic QB's, they want "Managers" and nothing more, sit in the pocket and hand the ball off, or short passes to keep the sticks moving. That's all fine, don't get me wrong, but we'll NEVER have THAT QB, we don't coach that way. Secondly, the coaching staff is God awful, great coaches build a team around player strengths, the Bears want their game plan and that's it. I'd prefer to bring in a new coach and watch JF go down in flames than replace him and screw over another QB. The Bears aren't being fair to Fields OR Bagent.

I’m just exhausted at this point, we go through this over and over again every 2-3 years. I’m convinced we will never find a great QB nor will we find the right coach. If my heart would let me I’d leave this team behind ASAP, but the Bears and Chicago are my city and I can’t help it. We deserve so much more than this as fans, we’ve waited forever now. I don’t understand what we ever did to anybody to deserve this stuff, it’s brutal

@kmscott21

8 ай бұрын

@@MisterMooster it isn't about that. If anyone is actually letting it deeply impact their lives, they need to re-evaluate their values. But, the Bears are the one piece that is common in Chicago. Other Chicago sports can have their highs and lows but none of that matters compared to the Bears. When people wait for September to come around, take their time and money and invest in something they want to be entertained by; just for it to come back and do the exact opposite is extremely upsetting. It's like your favorite character in your favorite show getting killed off, brought back another week, then killed off again. It is just entertainment, but there are real emotions directed at that entertainment. It sucks.

@thegrandpencil4374

8 ай бұрын

Since Ditka was fired, we've had different GMs, coaches and players. But you know what stays the same? The owners. If you want to point fingers, that's the place to point them at.

The most diabolical thing I saw last night was the media placing the graphic saying his career record while Fields was kneeling on the sideline

There definitely was an agenda and your speaking the truth 💯

@theone-ds7iz

8 ай бұрын

I will not watch another game! Ever.. The BEARS FANS ARE A LAUGHING STOCK.

@Conscious_Pookie_Tee2.7

8 ай бұрын

As a black man in America, the playing field isn't the same when it comes to a white man. Call me what you want but I live this daily

@maximus4everjay119

8 ай бұрын

​@TEEpocalypse27 as a black man myself I agree with u. But to back Fields no matter his flaws and act like everything else around him and he's not part of the problem is also ignorant. Stop acting like Fields is exempt from flaws. He has some issues to.

@Conscious_Pookie_Tee2.7

8 ай бұрын

@maximus4everjay119 I ain't makin this racist or anything like that I honestly think Fields is just better no disrespect

@thegrandpencil4374

8 ай бұрын

@@Conscious_Pookie_Tee2.7 Please. What about Jordan? Lebron? Magic? Wilt? Ali? Shaq? What about Sweetness? Prime Time? Barry Sanders? What about them? They're all black, and all beloved. The reason you feel this way is because one, you are programed to think it's a racial thing, so you can't see things objectively. And two, it's because sadly, most young black QBs are run-first players, and the NFL is a pass-first league. Simply put, you can't win championships playing like Vick, Lamar or Fields. You have to be able to THROW the ball with consistency. You have to win from the pocket. You can be a great runner, but if it's your first option, you're never going to win a Super Bowl. It's just the reality of the situation. As soon as a black QB destroys the league with his arm and not his legs, you'll see him on every commercial, every website, and on the lips of every media figure. Look at Lebron. Same deal. Skin color is not the issue. It just isn't.

Last time Chicago Bears on national TV was Washington game. Fields has passed for 8 touchdowns and 617 in 2 games but narrative persistent that Tyson Bagent is boy wonder

I’ve been saying this to people. The Bears decided, when they sent Getsy to the senior bowl, that they wanted to replace Fields. The Bears don’t want to pay the $500 million now. They may have fed the rumor about resetting the QB market last year

@christopherharris3229

8 ай бұрын

Replacing Fields and NOT paying him will be one of the best moves the Bears have ever made

@JJ-zr6fu

8 ай бұрын

Wait you think fields deserves to be paid like mahomes? This guy should be fighting for league minimum

@user-vl8jv1tl5e

8 ай бұрын

I 100% agree, they knew JF was out already. sad to say it's the truth. they where never gonna hang their job with JF for another season if he did not turn up, and he did not sadly. I know there was 2 good games vs 2 bad QB , 5 losses. like not hard to see , they need media wind and the can get that from bagent, and his not worse than fields on pitch currently, things could change , but thats the air they need to not get fired.

@gamerjamson

8 ай бұрын

Head coach and front office covering their arses by benching Fields. They can blame foreseeable losses on his "injury" and say well we're just doing our best with an inexperienced back up qb.

@user-vl8jv1tl5e

8 ай бұрын

@@gamerjamson what you mean benching fields. he dislocated his thumb, by his own doing alk his playstyle.

They’ve definitely done Fields wrong.

@mobeerman9487

8 ай бұрын

LMAO the entire media class has been kissing his ass since day one as opposed to the way other QB's were treated in Shitcago.

@AgnosticTruth

8 ай бұрын

Done him wrong?! He’s not good!

@kubbykush9401

8 ай бұрын

Yeah , these two are an example of the cancerous fan base. Stans indeed.

I've said it from day one Justin Fields has been sabotaged from his draft position thru his arrival in Chicago and both Nagy, Getsy and Eberflus refusal to game plan and call plays to his strenghts. I hope Kevin Warren responds accordingly.

@jimmymacnutrition6628

8 ай бұрын

Game plan? He has trouble reading defenses, has a slow release and panics under pressure. No poise at all. Maybe instead of wearing sunglasses, he should actually watch and learn from Tyson.

@eddiejames9827

8 ай бұрын

​@@jimmymacnutrition6628 He can wear whatever he wants. Have you seen his resume vs Bagent's?

@BarbellsandBBQ

8 ай бұрын

Playing to his strengths??? I guess cuz they didnt switch him to a punt returner

@jimmymacnutrition6628

8 ай бұрын

@@eddiejames9827 NFL resume for Fields has been.a disaster.. For Bagent it hasn't. He has another week. Let's see what happens. Fields has had 30 plus starts and has proven he can't read defenses, has a slow release, no pocket presence terrible footwork, poor decision making. and should be a back up.

@vanessaziobro1118

8 ай бұрын

So two different coaching staffs were the problem not the single player. Seems crazy

Media loves a story!!!

@byrdgang74

8 ай бұрын

True ! More than likely the bears are feeding them info as well

I didn't like Chris' take on the "QB controversy". Bagent can be a decent backup and JF can be a decent QB, both of these statements can be accurate at the same time.

Well, Collinsworth is awful. What's being done to Fields is flat out criminal.

@paulhester489

8 ай бұрын

Reminds me of how Vince Evans was treated.

@santaclause3487

8 ай бұрын

Wtf are u talking about. U think these dudes talking or u know more about football than Collinsworth? Lol. Last week it’s fields has no chance, o line is horrible. Then Bagent plays and he’s destined to be Brian hoyer or Craig krenzal. Bagent looks really good. He didn’t try to scramble one time! He threw the ball to far side of the field on half the throws. He took shots and showed off his arm. He’s so much better than Fields was as a rookie. Fields is getting traded it sounds like. So get used to Bagent. 😊

@santaclause3487

8 ай бұрын

@@paulhester489how was fields treated? Was handed everything in Chicago. Never earned a starting job. Regardless of how talented he is, he was a bust.

@albertrasner5694

8 ай бұрын

Without a doubt

@russjen5012

8 ай бұрын

@@santaclause3487 You realize you are talking about the guy who keeps referring to offside as offsides, lol. Come on man!

People are forgetting Bagent is a rookie and that was his 2nd NFL start. Why would anyone expect him to be amazing? Just like any rookie. He needs more playing time to improve.

@SplashIt34

8 ай бұрын

He doesn’t have a high ceiling

@Chris-Courage

8 ай бұрын

@@SplashIt34 Even if he doesn't have a high ceiling. He is still a rookie in the NFL.

@Ocelotmaniac

8 ай бұрын

@@Chris-Couragebut people are out on fields. Bagent played fine last week and people over blew that to the point where there was genuine QB1 controversy. Not bagents fault by any means and he’s a rookie. He’s fine but I’m tired of people just straight hating on fields. Yes Fields had a lot of issues and doesn’t throw with anticipation. But for those same people that are critical on fields, how has ANY player improved under this regime? Kmet has been good but he’s always been good. The coaches are the common denominator as they haven’t made the team better. Complete joke of a franchise.

@thechi2848

8 ай бұрын

Because they crowned him as a savior that's why we expected more.

@evilwestsidefan9249

8 ай бұрын

​@@thechi2848Exactly why Fields shouldn't get his payday we crowned him and he let us down time and again. If Fields was the one things should have been better.

12:29 Exactly, “If it wasn’t for the drops & refs…”, that’s part of football and it’s been happening to the bears for more than 2 games now! We can support Bagent and praise how far he’s gotten but part of the fan base has gone totally delusional & the fact that the delusion originates from within the building is extremely concerning. Pathetic ownership

Exactly pushing the Bagent narrative like he's the next Brady instead of a back up filling in for a HURT QB was cringe and it was all night Collinwortha give him praise and saying Fields can learn from him then next play he throws a INT or a pass that was almost INT and they say nothing about it.Bagent missing wide open players, bad throws all night and they say nothing. Bet we wont see 100 ppl breakdown Bagent Film like they do Fields it wont even be talked about. The game he won the defense and run game did good and they act like Bagent had 300 yards passing 4 TD that game and Hoyer wasnt the QB, meanwhile Fields has 2 back-to-back good games and it gets discredit.

🤣Bagent has two starts, has one win and one loss and you all decide he should not be in the NFL. Fields has like 35 starts and loses 95% of them but he should be league MVP 🤣 It is obvious that your topic of conversation is not what is best for the Bears but what makes you feel good about yourself. Enough with the self-righteousness please.

@shable1436

8 ай бұрын

Why are they shitting on him so hard? These fans are so desperate to have a hero, but that's not how it works

@cartelzo

8 ай бұрын

Fields probably is a bust ,but from what I’ve seen the last 3 weeks bagnet isn’t a NFL starter..he will have a job for years as a backup tho

@ScottDeSalvo

8 ай бұрын

Justin Fields is an admirable young man and a great athlete. He just isn’t an NFL quarterback that’s what it comes down to. He can’t read defenses and make decisions quick enough to get rid of the ball fast enough for it to work out.

@crudevid

8 ай бұрын

im wit u...these fans are delusional calling a loser like fields back into existence

@Ocelotmaniac

8 ай бұрын

@@crudevidevery QB would be a loser with how this team has been the past 2 years. 18+ games where the defense gives up 25+ points. Oh and I Forgot to mention the worst coaches we’ve had ever. Y’all so quick to blame the QB and while he has made some terrible plays and has issues, a lot of it stems back to how he was thrust into being the starter. No consistency on the o line (ofc players have bad games but I’m not talking about that) personnel wise. WRs who are below avg and you think a guy can get rid of all his bad habits? Again, he’s been part of the problem but to say he’s the main problem and a “loser” is pathetic. Us bears fans don’t deserve any good QB if this is how we gonna treat every single one. Y’all don’t have patience to let a guy develop and especially now.

AMEN I have been saying nearly the same damn thing about seeing this movie before to fellow bears fans but nobody wanted to hear it, called Fields my "boyfriend" etc. "NO... i just have seen this movie before". guys. bears fans are really challenging to sit in the same room with. But thank you for nailing it here. more people need to hear this one.

Thank You so much for saying what you said. I didn't like coming into this game how they was hyping him up after one game. Then just watching the game. I was just watching the game a I was like I'm DONE! Didn't finish watching the game. I am happy that some with your platform saw what I saw. Because I got friends who are Steelers and Falcons fans waiting for the Bears to mess up.

Again for the kids in the back: No one leaves this front office to do great things elsewhere. No one leaves the coaching staff to do great things elsewhere. No one leaves the locker room to do great things elsewhere. This is the story of the Chicago Bears the last 30 years. Bad owners who pick bad execs who pick bad players and coaches.

@amberbanuelos7053

8 ай бұрын

Greg Olsen left us, did great things in Carolina, and has a commentary job now. It’s not impossible for people to leave us and do well. But it does feel impossible for people to come to us and do well.

@toddmueller8948

8 ай бұрын

To be fair, mgmt pushed him out of town.

@kubbykush9401

8 ай бұрын

​@@amberbanuelos7053he started in Carolina so he's not truly a Bear. He played for them but he's not technically one.

@Killersam776

8 ай бұрын

I disagree on the picking bad players part. Sure you can point to bad picks like kevin white but every team has misses. This is about consistently having coaching staffs who can’t develop offensive talent across the board. We consistently develop solid LBs, but name the OL we’ve drafted who developed into a great player. Name the wr we’ve drafted who developed into a good players. Mooney is probably the only guy on that list. It’s an abysmal track record spanning many different coaching staffs and GMs. There’s no way every GM is just that bad and kept picking bad players.

@toddmueller8948

8 ай бұрын

Very true. For every Peanut Tillman there are a dozen Curtis Conway-type first round misses.

They’re trying to motivate Fields because it’s his last chance in Chicago to do it. He’s clearly not making quick reads and getting the ball out LlKE TYSON BAGENT. Call it ‘insulting Justin Fields’ is insane. It’s trying to ‘reach’ Justin Fields!

@dkn2977

8 ай бұрын

Good coaching means motivating directly and behind closed doors. Not in the public media while a player is hurt. Clearly the message in this video went over your head.

The coaching staff is a joke. Clean house once again.

I think Fields is going to come back and play like a badass

@Reesemaxx23

8 ай бұрын

I hope so as people can see I don't think there's a qb in the world that can win with that supporting cast around any QB

@arronnelson772

8 ай бұрын

@@Reesemaxx23 I think there peace’s but they are not being used right, the coaching has to change and Justin is an amazing player with the right coaching can reach Elite I have not given up on fields and I feel like if we let him walk away without trying to put him in the best position to exceed another team like the New York giants with an amazing head coach in Brian Dabal is going to bring Justin fields in and kick the leagues ass

@byrdgang74

8 ай бұрын

I think the coaches are gonna purposely sabotage fields

@gdavis2k2

8 ай бұрын

@@arronnelson772facts…the coaching is ruin him…

@Reesemaxx23

8 ай бұрын

@@arronnelson772 coaches definitely have to go there ruining Justin and any other qb that comes here the play calling sometimes don't even make any sense multiple games running 3 screens passes it a row unreal defense is Trash O-line is bad other then Tevin and Wright Justin deserves better coaching he can ball out when with the right coaches it's crazy the Bears can break records in a bad way

Thanks guys this needed to be said.

I’m so glad I’m not crazy. I was watching last night listening to Collinsworth and just felt like he was on one. There was a point where he said the Bears should make Fields study Bagent or something wild like that. You can praise Bagent and his story with out dogging Fields. Everyone wanted Fields to take a leap and technically he’s done that. Did people expect him to go from 3-14 last season to being top 3 in passing yards all while boasting a 7-1 record after week 8? It’s just unrealistic. Then the broadcast folks made a point to give Herbert’s shortcomings over the last 4 weeks every excuse in the book. They even created a graphic! Oh he’s playing bad because he broke a finger on his non throwing hand. Just stop it. He’s been inconsistent since he became the starter. Lol Justin Fields has undoubtedly received more criticism than Burrow, Mahomes, and most definitely Josh Allen. These are the media’s darlings but they all have underperformed this season. Lamar is playing well and they’re still hesitant to give him his flowers. Skin color will always play a part in this QB criticism game. “What do you mean, Mahomes is black!” Stop it, you know how this works. Lol

@JiovanniDaMatrix

8 ай бұрын

Preeeeach! 💯💯💯

@duanelarosa

8 ай бұрын

Ikr! Wtf.

@jamesnelson8469

8 ай бұрын

Ohhh here come all the halfwits saying “FACTS”….knew that whole nonsensical waste of words was heading towards the card. The delusion to think Justin hasn’t been the absolute golden child of the media is just unparalleled. Sheer delusion. How many MVP stories was there? Rushing plays played constantly. The man his hyped up in every single game of his, and was even hyped up when not playing “nobody has the talent of that guy etc etc”. They literally make every single excuse for fields when broadcasting. Every single time just like Herbert. “Just needs pieces around him” “just needs reps with DJ” or they start talking about how incredibly dangerous he is. And yeah shocking that they would care about mahomes burrow Allen hurts people that been to conference or bowl games. Shocking. They sell smoke to both teams fan bases when they can. Think next time. I know you can if you really try. Also only Lamar fans cares about Lamar the mans face looks like the predator from those 80s movies and maybe if he could talk he’d be on subway commercials and other fanbases would care more.

@ianm8218

8 ай бұрын

All those QBs you mentioned have hit 4000+ passing yards every season, bears football quarterbacks have never sniffed those numbers, if fields was producing I’m sure he’d be getting the credit he deserves. I still think they should stick with fields because he’s still young and shows flashes of brilliance, but you also have look at the current situation in Chicago with objectively. It’s not about race because Zach Wilson also get blasted by the media, more so than fields

@CornealiusG24

8 ай бұрын

Regardless of what people say your comment is spot on. People won't admit it or say it, but u spoke the truth and not everyone will agree with it and that's ok.

There was a play on one of the first drives where it was a designed rollout to Bagent’s left, with a lead blocker pulling to literally help move the pocket. AKA, the EXACT type of play people have been begging them to call for Fields, because it uses his strengths. As soon as he’s hurt. But they never seem to help Fields at all. It’s almost like they’re spiteful Justin isn’t perfect enough to run Getsy’s overcomplicated offense. They’re resentful of his flaws, instead of building upon his talents. Coaching failure, plain and simple.

@TMikrutMusic

8 ай бұрын

Kevin Warren could step up big after this season is over. It’s too soon to assess how well he’s doing so far, but I still believe he’s got the potential to become a great team president. Last hope 😅

I was thrown under the bus for saying these same things last week after Bagent and TEAM was victorious while everyone else kept screaming how much better Bagent was than QB1...while not even mentioning the TEAM. Now the team fails and yeah, it wasn't his fault!

@jimmymacnutrition6628

8 ай бұрын

2 passes that could have been touchdowns. 1 a ref blew the call on. One the guy drops after being wide open. Only sacked once. Ist interception was a timing play and the guy doesn't run to the first down and stops short. 2nd one, you would normally say the QB throws it only where the receiver can get it. The defender makes a great play on it diving and it is intercepted. Other than that, he played well. Bears defense was horrendous.

@foolmenow00

8 ай бұрын

@@jimmymacnutrition6628 Seriously, T-Bags didn't play that bad in the big lights if we think about and didn't seem rattled. They might now realize to use him more in RPO's or a moving pocket to use his athleticism. He had -1 yds rushing.

@jimmymacnutrition6628

8 ай бұрын

@@foolmenow00 It's just one game. Not that much changed. He still had good poise. Good pocket presence. Quick release.

Was at the Game , Collinsworth was staying at our hotel and he told us “The Bears should never be on Primetime again.” After the game

Dan is a professional criticizer of everything and everyone. He Must be a perfect human

They say TB should be commended for making it this far, then spend the entire broadcast shitting on him.

@MarcoLiftz

8 ай бұрын

Exactly lol

@dguthrie1

8 ай бұрын

He is a backup

Laurence casually throwing “natural” into the conversation made me die.😂😂😂

Thanks, guys fr yall said it all.

They had Justin throw a hell-mary and he had a completing record before he threw it😮

I’d call this franchise a dumpster fire but that would be insulting to dumpster fires

It made no sense that you've drafted Trubisky so high and let Nagy destroy what little confidence he had and then you traded picks to draft Fields and tried to get him killed his 1st year in his 1st start and then tried to run him into the ground last season as a running back. The narrative that he wasn't Poles "guy" was being put out there before Poles was even settled into the position. How do you waste a talent like JF1 by not even trying to utilize him to win with, unless someone gave you the green light to screw him over. Too many coincidences here and it's all the same result. Another QB biting the dust.

Football is a microcosm of society, and it seems like everything in American society for the past decade has been a zero-sum game. It's is no longer enough to celebrate success or bemoan failure on their own merits. That success must be at the expense of someone else, and that failure must be to the benefit of someone else.

@shable1436

8 ай бұрын

Especially the racism

I said it before that Bagent was not the answer people look at his stats from college 😂😂😂😂 a division two college 😳 😂😂😂 please who has he played he did not have great competition in college he didn't play against Alabama, Georgia, Ohno State , LSU, Nitre Dame Penn State Michigan, etc etc ...... yet oh he's put up great numbers yeah so has high school quarterbacks yet we're not looking at them to be a starter in THE NFL . Goes to show all of those that Bagent is just a good BACK UP no more no less, Don't blame the offense, don't blame the defense, don't blame the coaching because when he played the Raiders "oh did you see he played so great " " he's the answer" Hek no it's the same offensive linemen, the same schemes the same coaching and the same defense and he didn't do a darn thing to help them win point proven. I feel sorry for the kid because of this sorry Fairweather fan base that hyped him up like he was the next Tom Brady reality set in real quick Sunday night didn't it?!

Well done on this gents. I was fuming while listening to the broadcast last night. It’s fine if they want to move on from JF but this type of slime ball behavior is abhorrent. They did this to Roquan and I’ve been irritated since then. Poles needs to be gone. He’s like a child trying to cover up a bad decision.

I love yall. This was good and spot on! We are indeed back to coaches who want to run their offense as opposed to tailoring things to the strengths of their players. Fields has tremendous talent. Is he perfect? No. But there are so many tools to work with that it's beyond ridiculous the way that he's been used and misused

@santaclause3487

8 ай бұрын

Bears are probably trading him.

@Loski-g3c

8 ай бұрын

I bet he wants outta here more than y’all want him out. He’s hoping to leave this trash team and fan base

@Loski-g3c

8 ай бұрын

I am not wrong about anything this team and this fan base is trash. I know it’s easy to put him on the trubisky train but the athletes are very different. He won’t even be close but even better he will be free from Chicago with all their trash teams

Y’all sneak dissing JF1 and Bagent. It’s on the coaching staff and broader organization. No QB is gonna work until we get a legit Head Coach.

I think it’s a reach to say the coaches told the broadcast what to say about their qbs

who is the person they saying the bears what to coach?

I hate how these two immediately count out Bagent as a permanent starter just because he was an undrafted Div 2 player. Like pedigree HAS to matter. In the limited snaps I’ve seen from Bagent, I’d take him over Fields any day of the week!

The saints are going to kills us 😂😂😂 I say 3 picks for Trashbagent

@ishmaeldarjean2757

8 ай бұрын

I hope they do and I hope it continues to the point the league forces the McCaskey's to sell.

@dguthrie1

8 ай бұрын

I agree it going to be bad lol

The movie I saw yesterday was bagent have his "worst" start and put up as many passing yards as field's 6th highest. What category does that put fields in - hoyer as well?

@daniellejohnson-wm4cq

8 ай бұрын

Yards don't define a successful game

@tz7763

8 ай бұрын

@@daniellejohnson-wm4cq what defines a successful game then...a 3-20 record?

@chicagogoldenglove2113

8 ай бұрын

@@tz7763 stop crying!!! Your man crush isn’t the guy!!

@tz7763

8 ай бұрын

@@chicagogoldenglove2113 my boyfriend? I want the bears to draft a new qb next year because fields is absolute dog water

Writing the kid off after 2 games. He thrives on that stuff.

We have to respect the quarterback more than what we do, we have to look at the game itself and respect it along with what the quarterback is doing. We all know that sometimes people get hurt out on the field and since the number was low is no reason to disrespect the starting football quartback. Giving the quarterback a full training camp, will make them the full arm strength and will becoming better field quartback. Just don't play dirty pools with your starting quarterback along with the rest of the team member.

Just like Justin. It's not fair to Tyson have to play under this coaching regime. To rebuild this organization, you have to stop being cheap. Rookie GM and rookie coaches. Matt Eberflus and Getsy are coaches that are trying to learn on the fly and just like Justin and Tyson they are showing you they lack experience. There is a technical level to making coaching decision based on odds and stats. Like going for it on 4 and 2 when you have no running game. The unfortunate thing is you had a guy like Sean Payton available as a coach and we didn't go after him. He is from Illinois and I think he would have fit right in and he has a proven winning record. Top to bottom the organization is not working. I believe that Ryan Poles ego wouldn't allow him to hire Sean Payton. Ryan wants to be out front and he not a great GM. Just lucky at best.

how could you not see Jf was already out bagent here or not?? JF injured HIMSELF He put himself under the bus of that hollywood story of d2 to NFL how did you think the media was gonna spin this?? they are selling stories they dont care, , if not injured he would proberly have played 5+ more games and if he did not turn up big , they put in Bagent to just see at the end of season. even in this loss to LA chargers, Bagent put up numbers, Fields only have done better overall stats 5 TIMES in ALL his bears games combined 33 game 32 fumbles 115 sacks 79 after holding the ball 4+ sec ontop of that also 2 dropped TD/balls in the 2 Weeks for bagent , all the penalties , like it dont take a blind man to see his not preforming worse than JF, like everyones job is on the line, u think they gonna put their job on JF for another season, like its not very hard. if JF and Bagent gives same result on pitch and they feel JF not gonna improve? what you suggest they gonna do, if you haven't smelled the coffee as soon Bagent pushed out peterman and walker, idk, tbh u need to wake up, they clearly love this Bagent guy, seems the locker room also likes his present and playstyle, so idk man. I feel this a you problem rn you cant see JF was done no matter what as soon it got 5loose this early in season. Vs LA chargers It should have been a 300 yard, 2 passing TD, one rushing TD, one INT game. Woulda, shoulda, coulda last week even DJ m dropped a TD. you guys are also using double speak, its obv to all watching over the last 2 weeks, you hoped JF would turn up big this season big time but he did not, he even got himself injured with his playstyle again , his upsides alot more that bagent currently , and downside prob the same amount as with bagent, but if he cant do it on the pitch then what? even if bagent not they guy yet witch he aint yet, im 100% sure they not gonna pay JF and or hang all their jobs in his hands. and I feel the vibe from the hole team is the same, u see the WR match after match, shake their heads, trow out their arms to the side, after another JF solo play or sack when they wide open. Herbert , made 2 or 3 throws over 15 yards, last game, rest was the dink and donk plays , (like you guys like to call it, to make it sound bad) but the difference was those LA chargers players did turn up and delivered after the catch.

how come nobody thinks they put Peterman in for the hailmary because they didn't want Bagent to get hurt possibly by getting hit exactly like Peterman did, taking a weird shot to his arm on a low percentage throw.

For all the fans that want Fields gone lets look back on the last three years. Year 1 Matt f'ing Nagy players need to change to play my system( hold on to this). Year 2 a completely tear down team but that Fields fault( only thing entertaining to watch was Justin Fields last year with the bears nothing else). Year 3 play calling and scheme completely different especially with who is playing qb clearly shown and said multiple times ala back to year one for reference. Now to the fans every qb need a supporting cast from players to COACHING and if you think one qb can do it look at Mahomes (ala year 1 and 3 for Fields) hows that working for him. To those who think Caleb Williams is the next Mahomes WRONG closer to Baker Mayfield same play style but against worse defense 😂😂😂. Bears will stay a joke if they keep the carousel of qb and coaches but Gesty needs to go complete Sabotage. Gesty is Nagy 2.0 ✌

@turo3066

8 ай бұрын

It seems like all the intelligent Bears fans are in this comment section 😅

@NikkiDickson-ui9ix

8 ай бұрын

Maye is much better than Williams and looks more pro ready. He reminds me of Justin Herbert.

I don’t think the Chicago Bears calls national media guys and crap to ask their own team. I think the station gets feedback and get stories and narratives to talk about during the game but I don’t think they get it from the GM or the media relations person of the Chicago Bears, or from the coaches.

Yeah I’ve been confused with people overhyping of Bagent the past week. It’s awesome that he made it this far, but it was pretty clear from the get go that he’s not a starter. Even if you don’t think Fields is the long term answer in Chicago, he’s pretty clearly the best QB on Chicago’s roster for the time being. It’s really confusing then why they ruled him out this Monday, instead of waiting until Friday to make a decision, especially after the kind of game Bagent had and the fact that he was just listed as DTD and questionable the past couple of weeks.

@proudsellout484

8 ай бұрын

The question with Bagent isn't if he is a starter NOW!! The question the Bears need to answer. What is your long terms solution to the QB position? The coaching staff won't be here next season most likely. Does poles feel that Bagent will get better? Does poles feel that Justin will get better? Does poles have his mind made and he will draft a QB. This team is not going anywhere right now. So the Bears shouldn't be thinking who is the starter now? Who is going to be the starter of the future.

I like Fields as a person, seems like a good guy, but for him to call out the Coaches was not a smart or good move by him at all. He showed lack of maturity and courage as well by addressing it to the media instead of apparently going to the Coaches himself, and this was after a few games right? I don't think Fields could still be a Starter in the NFL, but he needs to learn from all of this. He came from good coaching and a great winner at Ohio State so that could help him in the long run (although Ohio State QBs haven't been good in the NFL).

Fire the coach. Why blame it all to young QB. ?? It was his 2nd game.

Collinsworth is always making cracks about “the script is written “ . Making light of the truth

@wentzr

8 ай бұрын

collinsworth is a goddamn clown.

This is disappointing. We have a franchise QB and the organization is going to squander talent... Just don't know what to think 🤷🏾

And a Kurt Warner story doesn’t come along too often. If Tyson can be an NFL starter, he is going to have to prove it and earn it, and no one should expect them to.

Fields isn't a franchise QB , he can't read defenses and has a slow release ! How many games has Fields won , that proves how bad he's been !

OMG! Whisper campaigns! Translation: Bagent didn't play well enough to start a QB controversy Sunday night so lets see if we can start one ourselves-SMH.

Love how Justin thought showing up to a nationally televised game looking like he's auditioning for a 90's rap video was a good move.

Bears put the "fun" in dysfunction.

Anyone who thinks Bagent > Fields needs help, & no im not goin off just his 2 starts.. and no Fields being 6-25 and bagent being 1-1 DOES NOT MATTER. Fields has his flaws ofc, but Bagent is inexperienced, Fields is athletic as hell and has more experience. if the bears get an offensive minded coach other than Getsy watch how Fields turns into a star

Thank you!

This is great analysis, fellas. I agree 100% with this commentary.

FINALLY SOMEONE ELSE HAS SAID IT 🤦🏾‍♂️👏🏾👏🏾 BIG UPS TO YOU GUYS 💯🤝🏾

@santaclause3487

8 ай бұрын

It’s cause Bagent proved them wrong in all their predictions. It’s gloating about last night like it was some victory for them and the black race. Fields is some in Chicago, sooner or later. No way bears keep fields and don’t draft a QB

@hollywoodheed1004

8 ай бұрын

@@santaclause3487 what?…..

I am a Justin Fields! Fan! And anybody with any intelligence and knowledge knows what the problems are! If they trade this kid! I am done with this organization! Never have I see one player be singled out for the complete problems of a organization! While they pump up a player! As the great hope who won a game with check downs and a defense that for the first time! Played well!

@gregspears9380

8 ай бұрын

Fields will never lead any NFL team to a Super Bowl Win ….. Why would the Bears pay a QB that is not capable of anything more than being a Top 20 QB ….. The Bears will move on …. you can follow Fields next year when he is the Atlanta Falcons QB 😊

@christophercameron2141

8 ай бұрын

@@gregspears9380 Fields isn't going nowhere! The problem is the coaching he's getting it's clear as day! New QB same problem! but even worse! It's amazing that he was able to do what he did before he got hurt!

@thechi2848

8 ай бұрын

I hope fields leave he deserves better and I hope he thrives.

Youre asking too much of us. Bears fans do not understand nuance.

I must say both of you are right and I thank you for saying what you said because I was looking at the game and I'm wondering what the commentator is constantly talking about. Like we have gave up on Justin fields. O, if this organization is going to leave Justin field and thrown to the dogs after he took a beating for us for 3 years I'm done with this organization. I'm done with the bears I'm done with. Whatever they trying to figure out that they can't figure out.

Guys - Im not always the biggest fan of the Score, but I think you hit it on the head. It seems to me, the GM has tied himself to the wrong coaching staff and is going along with everything they are putting out. And it's wrong. Plain out wrong. Wrong for the team, wrong for the players, wrong for the fans. And if Poles doesn't break from following this coaching staffs lead, he is gonna end up on the same unemployment line as them. I hope you guys keep pointing this out.

THANK YOU!!!

What about the Fields-esque throw along the sideline rolling to his left across his body over the top of the defender? “High school QBs” don’t make that throw

@cartelzo

8 ай бұрын

That’s one pass😂 it’s obvious watching him over the last 3 weeks he doesn’t have a good arm ,but he does seem to play smart that alone can keep him a job as a backup for years and it’s nothing wrong with that

I’m confused on what’s going on?

These guys are tripping. Saying bagent can’t be a starter after two games but let’s give fields 100 games before me make a decision 🤣

the new new new new new new new new new new new new new new new new new new worst game I've ever seen. We've Bear'ed down so much in the last 30 years that I'd have though we'd hit rock bottom by now. But no there is no bottom, just an endless chasm of misery and despair.

Thx for calling it like it is!

Thank you for saying this

Bernsteinberg for virtue signaler of the year award.

So your telling me that Cris Collinsworth said something dumb, no way.

Why don’t Chicago media ask the OC Thursday

I think the Bears have taken a good QB in Fields and ruined him. He will thrive and be better on another team who will build around him. Nagy wanted his Mahomes type of QB, and they drafted Fields, then Nagy proceeds to ruin him, and gets himself fired. Then they hire Eberflus, who hasn't shown us anything defensively as of yet, and hired Getsy as an OC? Because he worked with Rodgers in GB? The man has yet to come up with an offense that works with Fields strengths. Yes, Fields is guilty of things too, not denying that, but the coaching sucks. The whole staff needs to go. I think Poles deserves one more year to see what he can do and if he can't, fire his ass too.

Fields will be Mahomes if they just give him 35 more starts to show it…. It’s basically what everyone is saying….without actually saying it.

You’re saying this is the biggest conspiracy since Watergate?

There's very few QBs who can make it more of a running QB...basically Lamar Jackson, and kind of Jalen Hurts? I think Fields 7-26 record as a Starter hurts him. You can say he has bad talent around him, but Burrow and Tua T. have brought not great franchises to almost elite levels and winning. Jackson, Hurts have high winning totals. I thought the Bears should have taken Bryce Young and traded Fields last year. I think Bagent looks very natural from a non Bears neutral fan standpoint. But who knows how good he really is? You'd have to give him 5-6 games to get a better feel. Bagent would be fun to watch on a good team with good receivers, offensive line. But you could say that for about any NFL QB.

I called it during the preseason Bagent was going to start once the Bears started losing consistently that is when Fields was going to suddenly sustain another convenient injury. This way he can't be blamed for another losing record. Head Coach is a one and done, Mr. Slick is what I call him. Trade Fields for anyone but Jimmy G, the dude stinks!