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@dalebenson6859

Ай бұрын

This is misleading Bull shit that these are bear loads, yeah like black bear could be used on but Alaskan Coastal brown bears or Alaskan interior Grizzly someone would be a moron looking for get killed using any handgun or 44 to 45 cal pistol ammo on large & Dangerous bears. One of my clients killed an 8-foot interior Grizzly in 2005 then had with him a 44 mag handgun and Federal lead bullets with the writing in the box was BEAR LOAD, well we want to test that so called 44 mag Bear load on a bear so the client shot the bear carcass 5 times & 50 feet then we dug what was left of the lead bullets from the bear. Not one 44 mag lead bullet made it past the 8 to 10 inches of fat covering the body and some just pancaked on the ribs and others blow up into lead chunks! So, to make sure no one comes back then talk crap to me I can prove my guiding experiences through my AK guide photos I have on my Instagram account @ dwayneb1959 so to some ignorant smart asses don't even try talking BS to me where I've been there and done that! I even can come up with the photo of this interior Grizzly before skinning it with me holding up the bear's head.

We use to buy these 500-1000 bulk back in the day and loaded them all types of levels. They were good bullets for accuracy. Lotsa plinking. We did load these with a moderate load for youth deer hunting in a 44 rifle. Low recoil and very effective harvest under 50 yards for a couple deer. Your results look really good to me for deer, hogs, black bear.

@masonleather

Ай бұрын

Awesome

@lestergillis8171

29 күн бұрын

Are either of those two made in 357?​@@masonleather

Before anyone flips their sh1t, the barrel is 18.5” not 18”

@garytrainer1690

Ай бұрын

Lol! Gets tiresome sometimes don't it? 🤣👍👍

1.4x expansion seemed underwhelming until I remembered that a .429" bullet at 1.4x is still .6" which is 2x expansion of a 30 cal bullet. Thats more than enough expansion. Too much causes bullets to lose penetration.

@masonleather

Ай бұрын

Absolutely

I am absolutely thrilled you did this video for the .44 Rem Mag. The higher velocities shows the bullets hold up quite well. I use the Sierra Sportman 240 grain JHP for reloading my .444 Marlin. The Sierra bullet while basically a pistol bullet appears to be tough enough to handle the higher velocities of the trip4. At least Sierra says their bullet is tougher than just a pistol bullet. I've not hunted with the Sierra loads in the .444 with a muzzle velocity of 2200 fps+, but have no doubt it would hold up on deer, hogs and bears. Bigger game such as elk and moose would require a heavier 265 grain bullet. However, the only 265 grain bullet I can find is the Hornady FTX that is loaded in their Leverevolution factory loads. The FTX bullets will not load in standard .444 brass. The ogive is forward towards the tip of the bullet requiring a shorter case so the round can chamber. Plus, I am not a fan of the Hornady FTX bullet. Your own tests showed how the bullet just doesn't hold up. There is too much case separation. Now, if Winchester would make the same load in a longer .444 Marlin case that would be just dandy. I do not care for the Remington .444 FN loading. Plus, at over $65+ for a box of 20, I'll keep reloading for my satisfaction. Thank you.

@masonleather

Ай бұрын

Glad to be of service! I wish the 444 were more popular

I just really love that carbine rifle of yours. Ruger should keep more of their older models in production. Great video man, thanks 👍

Another great video, I really enjoy the way you do your videos, thanks

@masonleather

Ай бұрын

Thank you very much!

I've actually chrono'd this stuff and compared it to the regular traditional Winchester White Box 240gr JSP and that stuff you got there hits harder than the regular white box but recoiled softer than the white box in my testing but this is out of a 4.25in S&W Model 69. I don't know how that it could, probably a powder difference but I love it. Average velocity out of my model 69 was 1308 FPS giving you 911 energy foot pounds of energy. In contrast the white box came out at 1244 FPS with 824 energy foot pounds.

If you havent done so already, i feel like no 44 mag carbine test is complete without the hornady loads. Both 225gr leverevolution, and especially the 240gr xtp. It was considered the go-to load before the latest craze from the straight-wall states.

@rynerenzaglia8006

Ай бұрын

From his instagram stories i believe he has it.

@masonleather

Ай бұрын

Lots coming

I have the deerfield so this video is awesome! thanks!

@masonleather

Ай бұрын

Glad to be of service!

That federal hammer down stuff has some serious competition now

@masonleather

Ай бұрын

Good to have a variety

Loving the 44mag rifle tests. Hoping to see some 240grain xtp tests! I know the deer around here don't like em 😂

@masonleather

29 күн бұрын

Lots more coming 👍🏼 I use the 240gr XTP’s in my muzzleloader, roughly approximating what they’d do out of a 44 Mag rifle, a little weaker actually (it shoots best with 80 grains of Blackhorn 209 so not a full power charge), they run about 1,650 fps, got two deer back in January with them, did great 👍🏼

I'm still using win white box and magtech 240gr soft points for hunting. Its half the price or better and I'm pretty sure it's the product. Thks Mason. BTW my bullets on deer leave two gushing firehoses in deer. The buck I shot last year at a 100yds had gushers out both sides as he ran. Had a 4" hole on the exit side. Incredible performance out of my rem 788. .7MOA.

@masonleather

Ай бұрын

I like the 240gr White Box load

This stuff apeared to do great from a rifle but typically won’t expand in a 4.25” recolver

@masonleather

Ай бұрын

Well that sucks

Very interesting 🤔

@masonleather

Ай бұрын

Indeed

Just made some .44 Mag Oregon Trail 310gn hardcast WNFPGC, 17gn Accurate #9, SRH 7.5" WLP Primer 1255 fps. Functioned 👍

@masonleather

Ай бұрын

Sweet

Nice gun!

@masonleather

Ай бұрын

💯

That's a nice lil riffle

@masonleather

29 күн бұрын

I like it

Good rounds

@masonleather

29 күн бұрын

Absolutely

I bought two boxes of this stuff in 357 magnum last month for my Ruger GP100 6" stainless & I don't think 357 magnum is adequate for bear protection but I bought them anyway. I was getting higher than advertised velocity for deer hunting I think it would work.

Sorry. Gotta say it again. "I'd use them" lol. Good stuff.👍👍

@masonleather

Ай бұрын

💯

Those had more penetration than my 444 marlin. 240gr corelokt were stuck under far hide on spike elk at 70yds. Big mushroom with curved wound path. Havn't hit one yet with Hornady's new 265gr load

@masonleather

Ай бұрын

Keep in mind penetration in two different mediums isn’t comparable

👍😊 depends on the price.

@masonleather

Ай бұрын

Indeed

How do the different loads feed through your ruger mags? I’ve heard 270gr is about the limit for the ruger mags before the bullet starts contacting the feed ramp on the mag causing feeding/loading issues and that they don’t like wad cutters. I also hope if you ever get a chance to compare general accuracy between the top loads in each caliber you’ve been testing. It would be interesting to see how they compare relative to each other.

@masonleather

Ай бұрын

270 is the heaviest I’ve tried so far, no issues with anything thus far. I will be doing accuracy videos in the near future 👍🏼

Thank you for the video. I wonder how these would perform out of a 7.5” revolver?

@masonleather

Ай бұрын

Glad to be of service!

I’d really love to see the critical defense loading through a rifle. I’ve been very curious of the velocity difference, and how they perform in gel.

@masonleather

Ай бұрын

Lots more coming

I would rather have hard cast or solid copper for big bear

if there's a picture of a bear on the box...........

@masonleather

28 күн бұрын

🐻

@luvtahandload7692

27 күн бұрын

Ammo makers have necessarily been dumbing it down for an alarming number of hunters for a long time now. Sad, really. 🙄

I’ll be looking for them. Have you shot xpt and ftx hornady loads out of your Ruger?

@masonleather

Ай бұрын

Not yet, lots coming

Any hornady XTP tests coming or the PMC TCSP?

@masonleather

6 күн бұрын

Everything is coming

BIG BOREEE

@masonleather

Ай бұрын

Indeed

Questions ….in barrel length, how much improvement/ decrease would 3/8” or 1/2 make.

@masonleather

Ай бұрын

Less than the deviation between two individual cartridges, it’s irrelevant for all practical purposes

@tubbyshvfd9110

Ай бұрын

@@masonleather kinda figured that but wanted to ask since some seem to place such emphasis on being “exact “

@garytrainer1690

Ай бұрын

That's for sure. "The experts" 🤣🤣👍

I wonder if they make these for 45 cot and 45-70

@masonleather

Ай бұрын

45 Colt yes

Considering this is basically a handgun load, handloading could give that impressive performance quite a bump.

@masonleather

Ай бұрын

Perhaps

Need to make some leather shooting rest for your gun 😃

@masonleather

Ай бұрын

That would be cool

Leupold is pronounced “Lew Pold” not Leopold. Please people, it’s not that hard…

@brickhammerSS

4 күн бұрын

Sorry but people around here (southern Ohio) say it the way he does