By refusing the miners a strike ballot, he turned miner against miner and broke NUM rules. Great bloke.

@joebish6629

3 ай бұрын

Truth

Good to see Arthur ditched the sweepover at last!

well done Arthur.....

The 84 strike was entirely manufactured by the government to break the working class. Arthur was a hero who fought a valiant rearguard in what was essentially an establishment-led class war. He lost, and 40 years later we have aggressive anti union culture, constant austerity, hollowed out councils, gradually privatised NHS, foodbanks, zero hours contracts, crippling student debt, vast inequality, a chronic housing crisis, record homelessness. The evidence of the scale of the miner's defeat are all around us. Thank you Arthur, you are one of the few people to see what was coming.

@grahamt33

Жыл бұрын

BStar - ...and personally benefitted from it financially himself. Judas...The interview conveniently concentrates on the early 70's union success with not a mention of the Waterloo Scargill led them into in 84

@mmcc8022

Жыл бұрын

He was a thief

@grahamt33

Жыл бұрын

His less than honest dealings with the funds have destroyed all belief I had him back to the 80's

@davidschley8773

Жыл бұрын

👏👏WELL SAID BStar 💫It is hard to believe to this day you have fools who STILL don't see the big picture , they don't see the little golden circle elite sign , YOU AINT IN IT . They can't comprehend how someone had the audacity to stand up for the working class , because now everyone is worse of, but think they are all middle class😅they still throw the old muck racked up 40 years ago , probably before they were born 😅proff shit sticks the big picture vanishes , all that was thrown at him by the right wing facist and their corporate overlords, Then as if it was not bad enough and Maggie hadn't finished the job properly , from the she devil to the he devil ...Blair made that dirty word again the working class party , into Maggie part two party , he double crossed the left and labour have left the left again , and talking about the right wing Torys in the context of thief's 🤣what a joke 😂most of them have legally stolen trillions and are responsible for deaths of millions of poor innocent people all over the world then and now and counting.. Shell..BP...never ending conflicts and Wars just a few not mentioned. Imagine in the face of all that to belittle this bravest of battles The miners strike in the comments .... The miners were the bravest of great people whom were beaten and killed and treated like pure dirt , while police were buying second houses in london with the over time , its disgusting how there was no big massive block buster hero movies made about them , after generations of them people, whom had kept a lot of people alive 24/7 seven days a week for centuries of hard graft , but there was loads of corpoate cheap American movies shown, about heads exploding and killing those funny looking zombie people and glorifiying war . More than fair share of movies, about how the rich live and how great and smart and smooth they are, some privilaged prat in distress haven stolen a few billion , but don't panic the poor man will not have to live like one of us he's put a billion offshore phew thats good a happy ending , but thats all legal scaming, that is alright , Scargill was not like the lazy sound bite political and corporate loving scum of today , he worked the mines ... yet they line around the block to crawl the next generation of golden circle prats ( who laugh at them ), But god forbid they rock that boat or, they might loose their shiny bit of plastic car made by a robot for a fiver in china and the price of the plastic cheap food might go up . So they go with the crowd and jeer and crawl back into their little gaming area , to be judge and jury of their ever decreasing tiny poluted space inside their tiny minds . 😅ups got a bit nasty there 😂well sometimes the extreme left are nearly as bad as the extreme right , but at least they won't kill you , only shame you into oblivion✌

@jacobesmith12

Жыл бұрын

If you watch his appearance on a bbc show entitled 'futures' in the 1980s, You'll find virtually every prediction he made about capitalisms future in this country has come to pass.

The miners were lions led by a donkey - Arthur Scargill. He lost the '84 miners strike to Mrs Thatcher because he chose to strike when the coal stocks at the power stations were full. Thatcher and the Coal Board prepared for the conflict by ensuring this.

@bubba842

6 ай бұрын

That was the whole point. The coal stocks were increased after the 72 strike to counter another miners strike. It was all planed years prior. Even the Labour government from 74 - 79 played a big part in the downfall of the mines. By the time Thatcher came to power in 79, all the instruments were in place to destroy the miners.

Scargill won the battles against the Tories in 72 and 74, which gave him the hubris to believe he could win in 84. He led the miners into a fight they couldn’t win, and his refusal to call a national ballot ensured the miners would lose. His heart was in the right place but he was an arrogant and misguided man who believed his own hype

@MarkHarrison733

5 ай бұрын

@@eightiesmusic1984 He destroyed the NUM.

@ally11488

5 ай бұрын

​@@MarkHarrison733According to part 3 of recent Ch4 documentary, scab Notts miners destroyed the NUM by taking them to court.

@MarkHarrison733

5 ай бұрын

@@ally11488 The Channel 4 "documentary" is biased left-wing propaganda. Channel 4 should be privatised along with the left-wing BBC.

@JamesRichards-mj9kw

5 ай бұрын

@@ally11488 Scargill refused to call a national ballot as he would have lost.

A great example of class solidarity, if the bourgeoisie is attacking one section of the working class in time it will attack them all so the entire class must respond to an attack of one of it's sectors.

Good interview

there was NO victory.

Scargill destroyed the NUM.

He bought his flat at a 50% discount through right-to-buy

@dlamiss

5 ай бұрын

Bought a jag as well during the strike so im told. Couldnt drive it though for the risk of being spotted

At 3:40, "another 12 years before another miners' strike". What about the 1974 one, which Heath called the General Election over? That's a very big one to forget about.

@SMSJSC

Жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same. What a blunder.

@JamesRichards-mj9kw

5 ай бұрын

He called the GE over the oil crisis.

@EdwardAveyard

5 ай бұрын

@@JamesRichards-mj9kwThis is the February 1974 election. I would argue that the miners' strike (and the issue of industrial relations generally) was a big issue in the campaign than oil. Heath's slogan was "Who governs Britain?", with the implication that Labour would allow the unions to govern the country.

@JamesRichards-mj9kw

5 ай бұрын

@@EdwardAveyard The miners strike was due to the oil crisis. The Conservatives got more votes than Labour in the February 1974 GE.

Workers of all lands unite.

Enoch Powell Scargill were right they had Cassandra's curse!

@eightiesmusic1984

Жыл бұрын

Enoch Powell was a disgrace.

@MarkHarrison733

11 ай бұрын

@@eightiesmusic1984 Everything Powell warned about came true, although Mosley had told the truth first.

@MarkHarrison733

5 ай бұрын

@@eightiesmusic1984 The Battle of Cable Street increased support for anti-Semitism in the UK, and led to a surge in the BUF's membership. A peaceful march was prevented when Communist thugs attacked the police. Mosley and Gandhi had to be imprisoned without trial for telling the truth about World War II. See why Labour limited immigration from 1965 onwards.

@JamesRichards-mj9kw

5 ай бұрын

@@eightiesmusic1984 By late October 1936 membership in the BUF had increased by 2,000, with many joining East End branches of the organisation. In March 1937 the BUF received 18% of the East End vote, and around 30% of the non-Jewish vote, in the three main areas of the Cable Street confrontation between the Communists and the police.

Dear People , are people prepared to go down the mines today ,

Why no ballott Arthur . It could have been so different .

Dear People , should A . scargill talk , Oxford University ,

Dear People , was a . C. a patriot ,

As deluded today as he was 50 years ago. He didn't learn the lesson of Saltly, the Tories did.

Not full

I was proud to be there.

Scargill destroyed the NUM by starting a fight he could not win.

@MarkHarrison733

9 ай бұрын

@@dg9015 The NUM did not have the resources, and the government was well prepared thanks to the Ridley Plan.

@richardburns5925

7 ай бұрын

He didn't start the fight dude.

@MarkHarrison733

7 ай бұрын

@@richardburns5925 Yes he did, as Lord Kinnock confirmed.

@richardburns5925

7 ай бұрын

@@MarkHarrison733 no he didn't, Thatcher and the Tories started the preplanned fight, coal was stockpiled for years to prepare, to put the working class back in line by taking down the biggest union, knowing the others would fall into line. Neil Kinnock said a lot but what he didn't do, was back the working class, the very people his party was formed for, to represent. Neither does Starmer.

@MarkHarrison733

7 ай бұрын

@@richardburns5925 Coal mining should have been phased out during the 1960s.

This man is one of the great influences of my life ... a real hero from an already receding part of socialist humanitariun influence . Most of his assumptions , at that time thought to be unreal , proved to be true .. much later of course , .. Arthur Scargill wrongly was said to have 'lost' ...nothing more wrong could be said to any person that beleived in real democracy [ not overseen by various media ] He was the last stand for any free thinking member of the real Socialist movement . Thank you Arthur ... and for me you really ARE king Arthur.. [ not meant as an insult ! .. you know what I mean ] Good wishes , and sleep well

@PeIeus

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately his rolling strike without the consent of the NUM is basically what precipitated the decline in authority of the Unions. He's only himself to blame really.

@eightiesmusic1984

Жыл бұрын

@@PeIeus Explain.

@MarkHarrison733

11 ай бұрын

@@eightiesmusic1984 Scargill destroyed the NUM by starting a fight he could not win.

@eightiesmusic1984

11 ай бұрын

@@MarkHarrison733 Nonsense.

@MarkHarrison733

11 ай бұрын

@@eightiesmusic1984 He did not have the resources to bring down the elected government in 1984.

Man's deluded.

The enemy within, no greater slur on the working class. King arthur great man who was proven correct

@JamesRichards-mj9kw

5 ай бұрын

The "enemy within" referred to Scargill.

Great man.

God Bless Art Scargill....high

The brilliance of Arthur!

Great trade union leader, wish there were more like him

A total hypocrite- did he sell his London pad in the end ?

The greatest trade union leader in my lifetime, proud to have answered the call in 84/5 the legacy of our defeat is what we’re living with today, food banks, clothes banks, low pay, huge hospital waiting lists, millions living in poverty and hundreds of thousands homeless, soaring inflation and corporate greed and theft, damn all you cowards who sold out their own class in favour of Thatcher.

@johnwalsh7806

10 ай бұрын

Bo*****s

@sayitasitis100

10 ай бұрын

@@johnwalsh7806 Can’t you spell Bollocks, do one !!!

@MarkHarrison733

10 ай бұрын

Food banks and clothes banks exist because people like free stuff. "Poverty" does not exist in the UK. Inflation rose due to the conflict the EU and NATO Caused in Ukraine.

@sayitasitis100

10 ай бұрын

@@MarkHarrison733 food banks existed before the war in Ukraine, I take it you must not a ventured out for a decade or more, you probably never encountered the in employment poor, they were probably looking for your free stuff, by Britains own definition of poverty are households with income is 60% below the median household income after housing costs for that year, and didn’t NATO and the EUs adventurism contribute more to poverty ?

@MarkHarrison733

10 ай бұрын

@@sayitasitis100 Coal mining should have been phased out during the 1960s.

When you face concerted opposition from the government, who are prepared to be anti-democratic in the means they employ, you have no chance of success. In my view thatcher was a disaster for this country, but Arthur gave her the success she had. The unions were ridiculous, drunk on their own power. As much as they fought, for and got, what they wanted for their own members the rest of us paid the price. It wasn’t what thatcher did that became her legacy, it was the way she did it. The UK has never been the same since. In some ways it’s better but in many more ways it’s a lot worse. Her legacy lives on and ordinary working people are paying the price - her true legacy is that not many of them recognise the fact.

The biased BBC strike again! Pun intended. They interview this old trade unionist without any context of history or how his supposed ‘win’ dug the grave for a proud industry. Short term pay wins and pouring money into supporting nationalised industries nearly destroyed this country. A little context or some kind of rebuttal was clearly needed here.

@MB-pe1dw

2 жыл бұрын

You are a right wing Tory. The working class fools who voted Tory are paying the price now. Pun intended.

@EdwardAveyard

2 жыл бұрын

Funny when Scargill has never stopped saying that the BBC is biased against him, as did Corbyn say that the BBC was biased. It might seem strange how far-left and far-right, and even the SNP, think that the BBC is biased, but it's really just like how all football fans think that the referee is biased against them. To the neutral onlooker, the referee is just doing the best they can.

@petetube99

2 жыл бұрын

@@EdwardAveyard Come off it!, the BBC, especially news and current affairs and its governing body, are literaly stuffed with actual Tories, Tory donors and Tory staffers. And not a single working class person.

@EdwardAveyard

2 жыл бұрын

@@petetube99 You say that. Joanna Dyer says the opposite. You can't both be right.

@petetube99

2 жыл бұрын

Why would the BBC as an organ if the state, run by public school educated Tories , be pro Arthur Scargill?. Are people really so astonishingly stupid ?

Thief

Scargill was right. Then and now. Support the Socialist Labour Party.

@eightiesmusic1984

5 ай бұрын

Hundred percent right.

@SgtAndrewM

4 ай бұрын

The labour party and tories have sold this country out to 3rd world migrants

Smells a bit comunist to me