I love Baldur. An underrated antagonist for GOW. Pretty much every boss just wanted Kratos to suffer, wanted revenge, were purely maniacal, driven by fear, paranoia, but Baldur simply wanted the sensation of feeling, to be free of being numb. He is sadistic, and cruel and evil, but for all we know he's only like this because of how he grew up with Odin, and how Freya made a costly mistake. He could've been different had he not been put through this. You will absolutely love Raganrok, especially for the new/old characters and how it make you hate/love them

Don’t forget to go back to your home home in the end

@cctomcat321

29 күн бұрын

I'd say there's probably an endgame checklist that's somewhere between "completionist" and getting some of the more main sidequests done. Like the lore doors, visit different locals, visit all available realms, and take on all the Valkeryies. It's not a must, but I'd say some of it should be done if they plan on doing the next game. A lot of the side stuff is still content or lore.

@MrWhatdafuBOOM

27 күн бұрын

There's no place like home home

@pedromartinezcalzada6328

25 күн бұрын

Ragnarok will be more impactful for them if they don’t tbh

Mistletoe didn’t make the promise because it was too young to understand. While a lot of the gods were amusing themselves trying to hurt Baldur after they knew of this spell of invulnerability, Loki was not so amused and so gave his blind brother Hother a twig of mistletoe, not being able to see what it was threw it at Baldur which killed him stone dead, the gods wept and blessed mistletoe to only be used for happy things, like kissing under perhaps.

@noneofyourfckingbusiness8302

16 күн бұрын

In the version I read, Freya didn't even bother getting Mistletoe to make the promise to not harm Baldur because she considered the plant completely harmless and the thought of it hurting her son was laughable.

@Oshaoxin

14 күн бұрын

Death by twig? Guess I like the God of War version better

@QuayNemSorr

9 күн бұрын

@@Oshaoxin It was fashioned into an arrow

I was bewildered when this first came out and a lot of people didn't understand Freyas reaction. I'm not a biological father but as a youth leader, I'm a spiritual parent to my students and you really come to see them as tour own. You'll go to any lengths to protect them and like Freya, feel that "parental rage" that comes when you see them hurt or worse by others. And if the worst case scenario happens, you're changed forever and you don't forgive yourself for letting it happen

@hubcap9294

28 күн бұрын

There's definitely the unconditional love of a parent involved. But I also think Freya's actions throughout the fight/reaction at the end also comes from the fact that deep down, she knows that she was the one who really deserved to die. Yes, she stands by her decision to take away his feelings but at the same time she's admitted that it was selfish of her. I get this sense that she's like "I think we could move past this. But I can't say you're wrong for wanting to kill me."

@jlott069

19 күн бұрын

That only works for a child that isn't as fucked up as he is. He wasn't going to stop. Not trying to murder her and not trying to murder Kratos and his son. I AM a parent and I can tell you now there are limits. They get killed attacking someone, because that person acts in self-defense, isn't a legitimate reason to flip your shit. She saw it for herself. With her own eyes. She's wrong. She doesnt have to like it. But she should UNDERSTAND it. Especially as a warrior. He's a grown ass man and she treats him like a child and then acts like he's not responsible for his actions nor the consequences. No, she's wrong.

@OmegaPlato

9 күн бұрын

​@@jlott069 Unconditional love

@cryhwks

4 күн бұрын

I can understand from both directions. From one of my favorite books a character explained it like this - "who would you rather face, a 6'4 250 lbs man who is knowingly in the wrong, or a mother who wrongly believes with everything she has that you kidnapped her child?" One can be reasoned with, the other cannot. I think the Devs should have also thrown in that the death of Baldur is what leads to Ragnarok.

btw freya is a great warrior. however as told by mimir in a boat story, one of odin's curses was that he "robbed her of her warrior spirit" and "she can't fight even to defend herself", and i think that's why kratos intervened.

@cait_and_kati

28 күн бұрын

You’re SO right! I forgot about that story but yeah she is unable to defend herself. Thanks for the reminder! -K

I feel so bad for Baldur 😭 This beloved golden god of light moulded into a deranged madman by Freya’s spell. 100 YEARS of feeling absolutely nothing, not the wind on his face nor the beat of his own heart. He couldn’t even feel the hatred he held for the mother who cursed him. The cruelest thing is that 20 minutes after Baldur is freed from his unfeeling century-long nightmare, he is put down by Kratos. Between Freya’s maternal paranoia & Odin’s lies, Baldur had no chance of changing. He could never learn to love again, filled only with hate & misery. Whether or not Kratos stopped him from killing Freya, his fate would’ve been the same. It was simply too late for the God of Light…

@garrettjackson1451

27 күн бұрын

Honestly she should of made sure that the spell allowed him to feel pain and pleasure and he is still invivibile but I think that would still make him arrogant

@olavisalomaa

Күн бұрын

​@@garrettjackson1451I doupt that a spell like that exists. Immortality always comes with a price

@garrettjackson1451

Күн бұрын

@@olavisalomaa I wonder what would of happened if Tyr wasn’t imprisoned as Odin in disguise said that the last time Tyr saw Baldur was when he was a boy I bet Tyr would of been a father figure to Baldur and he would of became the god in more accurate myth

Don’t underestimate freya she most definitely can handle herself you gotta remember she was the one who taught Odin 😂😂😂😂

Mimir, following us did lead Baldur to his cure, he just didn't get to live long enough to really enjoy it. So, Odin didn't "technically" lie if that's what he told Baldur.

24:45 you were in spartan rage lol

'The cycle ends here, we must be better than this' Still give me chills every time, and by the looks of both of yalls surprised Pikachu face, it gave you chills as well xD

There are not many games I would consider a masterpiece. But God Of War Ragnarok is DEFINITELY one of them. I eagerly anticipate seeing that in the future!

@cait_and_kati

28 күн бұрын

I whole-heartedly agree. It’s a magnificent game. -K

You two are so entertaining. Thank you girls. Keep growing your channel.

@cait_and_kati

29 күн бұрын

Thank you! -K

Seeing Baldur fight after his spell is broken is the most tragic part of his story because it reveals that his natural god ability is to absorb and deflect, and wield elements that harm him, such as fire and ice. Since he has to be harmed for it to work, Freya's spell nullified it. Even worse, that ability probably would have protected him just as much as Freya's spell. More so, even, because pain is a crucial warning sign for our bodies.

"The cycle ends here. We must be better than this." Love that line so much. I feel bad for Baldur, because Freya turned him into a monster. But Baldur was beyond saving. Living as an un feeling being for centuries, made him insane.

We can't wait for Ragnarok ❤

Loved your excitement about the boss fight, the Chekov's mistletoe and the story developments! It was such a great climactic battle; I still marvel at how well it ties everything together. And the way you called out how great Jeremy Davis' acting was! Absolutely, everyone brought their A-game for sure but he really made Baldur feel so real. Good luck with the Muspelheim trials! More than one of my victories there were by the skin of my teeth, so I hope you have more luck!

This is so delightful to watch you both go through this journey

Untangling god of war is a good video explaining the full story behind this game! I highly recommend

You've got the core seed of the Baldur/mistletoe myth. Frigg (who, in the original myths was a separate figure from Freya, but it's suspected that the two goddesses were conflated over time. Some tellings treat them as the same person, some tellings treat them as separate people) originally set out to make Baldur invulnerable not out of general protectiveness, but a SPECIFIC fear for his life because his death had been foretold in a prophecy. Her missing the mistletoe is sometimes attributed to her seeing it and thinking that it was so small and soft that it couldn't possibly be a danger to Baldur, and sometimes attributed to her simply overlooking and forgetting about it. In the myths, once she'd established Baldur's invulnerability the Gods of Asgard took to making a game of chucking deadly things at Baldur just for fun. Hodr, the blind god of darkness and night (and Baldur's brother, counterpointing Baldur's role as a sun god) wasn't able to take part simply due to his blindness. Loki saw an opportunity for mischief in this, and came to Hodr in the guise of an old crone, promising to help him join in this game that all the other gods were enjoying. Loki gave Hodr a bow, and arrows crafted of mistletoe, and guided his aim so that he was sighted on Baldur, and told him when to loose his shot. Baldur was struck dead, Hodr was blamed initially, and the prophecy's fulfillment marked the beginning of Ragnarok. The gods later figured out it was Loki who tricked Hodr (after punishing Hodr as a kinslayer), and what they did to Loki in reprisal... well, look, that mythological rendition of Loki had SOMETHING coming for killing Baldur, but even the myths paint it as maybe being disproportionate. Like, we're talking Loki being bound to a stone table below the roots of the world tree by the entrails of both of his half-Aesir sons, after one of his half-Aesir sons was turned into a ravening wolf to kill the other. The Dragon Nidhoog dripped venom into his face, which his Asgardian wife (and mother of the two murdered sons) was permitted to catch in a bowl... but only so that the caustic venom would shock him suddenly whenever the bowl filled and she had to empty it. If anything's gonna convince a guy to turn on the people he used to call friend, that's the kind of shit that would do it. Plus, Baldur is supposedly one of those gods that's kind of a christ figure. He's prophecied to return from the dead after Ragnarok to serve as Allfather to a new generation of Aesir.

@cait_and_kati

28 күн бұрын

Thank you! I did read a rendition that detailed it the way you did when I learned about the myth a few months ago. Baldur seems to have an interesting story. -K

The World Serpent has entire ships in his stomach. I guess it's good he is getting some fiber in his diet. Wood fiber, but still.

@Harrypotter-7

Күн бұрын

It’s a god 😂😂 not a fucking fragile ass human 😂😂 but you right 💩😂

Yes, I've been waiting for you guy's to get to this part and see your reactions and you did not disappoint. Can't wait for the finale and then, Ragnarok! Also yeah I'd be cool to see you explore muspliheim and nifilheim.

You still have a ton of stuff left to do! Not just Nifl and Muspellheim but in Midgard as well. Now would be the time to go after all those side quests you've ignored and maybe even fight the valkyrie you fled from last time. (Especially that last thread is extremely important to the next game)

Muspelheim and Niflheim are both meant to be 'fun things to do once you've basically got the main campaign wrapped up'. They're skippable from a storyline perspective, but if you're committed to doing the entire Valkyrie questline they're both required for that.

@cait_and_kati

28 күн бұрын

They definitely can give you some great armor as well should you get resources enough from both places. -K

@docingraham

26 күн бұрын

@@cait_and_kati Correct, in fact the armor with the best stats in the game is craftable from resources exclusively obtained in Niflheim. Oh, and on a significantly darker note I suppose, unlike things that simply won't catch flame, human "inflammability" is just like that of green wood. Sufficient heat + time to remove enough of the water = on fire. Though my personal experience with this was *relatively* minor, I did have an unfortunate ~1-3 second encounter with a blowtorch that lit my bare elbow like a candle. Hardly felt a thing remarkably, but it did require a minor surgery an took ages to heal. So to whom it may concern, do be careful. :) Peace🖖

Love you guys videos so much. Cant wait to see your reaction at the end. I actually feel bad for Baldur he just got his feeling back and got killed not long after.

In mythology, loki is challenged that he can't kill baldur. So loki figures out it's mistletoe that baldur is vulnerable to. That's why Nordic people consider loki as the devil.

There’s just something so emotionally intense about the moment Kratos kills Baldur. It’s not even gory or especially graphic. It’s the emotions that hits so hard. This is one of the first time Kratos has killed a god not out of revenge or anger but to protect someone. And the audience knows the consequences of how this will affect Freya.

I get the feeling the next upload will be a short one. 😅 Don't forget, at some point after the main quest, to go back to Kratos' cabin. It's been a long day; those boys must be exhausted!

@Mrsplifferdoodle

29 күн бұрын

A very long day lol

Great playthrough, can't wait to see the Ragnarök playthrough

22:05 Remember when Atreus struggled to hit a deer. How far we've come.

RAG NA ROK! RAG NA ROK! RAG NA ROK! Dude, I cannot wait!!

Loving the play girls, thank you for the good vibes

@cait_and_kati

28 күн бұрын

Thanks for joining us! -K

Love the playthrough

The reason why mistletoe wasn’t part of the promise for the spell was because freya thought it was too young to consent, so she left it out.

21:55 Kratos and Atreus trust each other and are working together so well at this point. Kratos doesn't even have to say what he is doing and what he wants for Atreus to understand what he means. Kratos just gives a little nod and looks back to signal Atreus that he is going to jump with Baldur, and he wants Atreus to follow him. And Atreus follows without questioning his father at all.

@cait_and_kati

28 күн бұрын

Watching the relationship grow has been such an incredible storytelling tool all on its own in this game. -K

27:10 😭😭😭 she can’t believe what she is seeing

@cait_and_kati

29 күн бұрын

She can't 😭 I really don't like brutality ~ Cait

Oh gurl is actually one of the people that is doing an ACTUAL first time playthrough. Unlike a lot of these fake ass KZreadrs just titling there videos first time playthrough for views. Ur reactions are authentic and genuine I can tell. I respect that b. N will show my respect by subbing and liking !

@cait_and_kati

20 күн бұрын

Thank you! Definitely not something I’ve ever played before lol -K

42:09 in the norse mythos, Freya left Mistletoe alone because it was too young and harmless, as for this game, not entirely sure on that. unless someone else in the comment section has an answer for it, maybe as Mimir said Vanir magic is slippery and tricky, i guess it might lean into that, but i don't really know honestly. Good question, though

@cait_and_kati

28 күн бұрын

Oh cool, thank you! It’s still strange that you’d go to a blade of grass but mistletoe is left alone. Mythology logic. -K

@tranquilk5912

28 күн бұрын

@@cait_and_kati I know, even I was questioning it while reading the Neil Gaimen book 😅😂

Yeah I think a lot of people view the whole freya thing through the eyes of an abusive boyfriend like cmon wake up and see the signs he wants you dead. A lot of it really does make sense through the unconditional eyes of a parent.

@cait_and_kati

20 күн бұрын

YES like, that is her son. Self preservation doesn't come into play because that is your CHILD ~ Cait

After I played this I went into my son’s room and cried as he slept. Y’all just went to the fire realm. So tough. 😂

@cait_and_kati

28 күн бұрын

Not being parents probably helped us after our brief breather lol -K

What an incredibly frustrating point to stop.... then again, enjoy Nifelheim. It's not so much an Ice World... but it is a very different level. Many find both of these levels challenging.... but wait, don't forget you've still to do the Valkyries. :-) Oh, and finish the game. BTW - well done on the Baldur Fight (so much more annoying when you don't have a resurrection stone) as you can't duck off to the shop to stock up.

@cait_and_kati

27 күн бұрын

Fear not, we DO have another episode coming of reaction to the end of the game 😊 ~ Cait

@AdelaideBen1

27 күн бұрын

@@cait_and_kati and I'm sure there will be at least a couple of double-takes... and "so what does that mean?....looking forward to it... that and the valkyrie fights.

"She's going to kill us" I think not. Lol. Any God that ever challenged Kratos is probably dead. He killed an entire Pantheon of Gods in Greece before coming to the Norse lands, Including his father Zues.

34:52 this entire section of you guys keeping it paused and just really talking, taking in what just happened and processing it, is just amazing. So much love and respect going around. Very fitting after a big moment such as this, basically the climax to this part of the adventure. Well done!

@JustQuibbs

29 күн бұрын

42:00 wonderful question. And as Mimir might explain, magic is weird. But what it mostly comes down to is that the magic that Freya taps into the most is the being of the thing. In Norse mythology every thing, from the deer in the woods to the rocks on the mountain have some form of sentience. A will of their own. It is not that Freya made things unable to harm Baldur, it is that everything promised Freya to not harm Baldur...except for Mistletoe, which was playful and stubborn. So, totally right on the money! Freya got every thing except for one, so she only had to protect her son from one thing. Sounds more doable.

@JustQuibbs

29 күн бұрын

55:53 Mh, lore is...well, yeah. Lore. Within this game it is said that some giants, such as Groa (I don't know how to use special symbols), could see the future, but not only the future. Things that once were, things that are and things that are yet to be. So it is always a little hard to interpreted the Jotnar Shrines found in this adventure, even for the smartest man alive. Personally I think that the future shapes the past if you are informed by it. Such as Freya trying everything in her power to keep her son safe is what sets the path for Baldur to eventually die by Kratos' hands. Because if Freya did not know Baldur would die... She might not have taken Baldur's sense of touch Baldur might not have resented her and the two loving each other could have accepted Atreus' mercy. And thus the future shapes the present, to again become the future.

@JustQuibbs

29 күн бұрын

56:49 Sure!! However, to answer this question is to kind of tap into spoilers. Because...well...ehhhhhh I'll leave it to you. If you're ok with a non-story, but gameplay type of spoiler let me know! It is truly harmless, but I kind of feel so long as you are enjoying yourself, I'm happy to be along for the ride.

Gonna need a reaction video to the God of War Ragnarok trailer once you two finish

God of War Raganock Gameplay

Are you planning to play God of War Ragnarok after story mode and beating the Valkyries?

@cait_and_kati

29 күн бұрын

Great question! We'd love to plan some streams where we take on Valkyries, turn your notifications on or check our community page to see that - and yes, we DEFINITELY are planning on playing Ragnarok quite soon 😉 ~ Cait

Let’s gooooooo you two make my day better so do you two like the game and I can’t wait to see the next one have a wonderful day you two

"Bad day for teeth." :)

I really hope afther yall finish the game yall can react to raising kratos its my favorite documentary

They are gonna love GOW ragnarok, it makes this game look okay by comparison. One of the best game sequels

@cait_and_kati

28 күн бұрын

SO excited for Ragnarok! -K

You should totally play the older games

Please react to the rising of kratos, its a documentary about this game

Please play Ragnarok! I love your videos

You should visit other realms they are very interested.

Loki, Baldur's half-brother, was the one who shot and killed him with the arrow in mythology

@MeesdeFilmliefhebber

29 күн бұрын

No, it was Hroðr or something like that. Loki gave him the arrow, but the other brother fired it. Classic god of mischief

@n.a.t8404

29 күн бұрын

@@MeesdeFilmliefhebber uhm interesting, i knew loki was involved with the arrow, i read about it a long time ago and i forgot lol

I suggest you play the walking dead game

It would be really cool to see you doing the Muspellheim and Niflheim realms content

Go Home after the ending. Nothing More.

It’s the left trigger at the top of controller is the shield it’s either L1 or L2 I think it’s been a bit

React to everu god of war games from 1 to ragnarok

Freya brought all of us on herself, and Baldur, because she had a vision of someone killing Baldur after his birth. However, it can maybe be safely said that, her taking everything away from Baldur which makes like worth living is what caused him to get killed in her vision. It's a vicious cycle that is in the end, caused by her. She is definitely not the victim, no matter the lens through which you view this. I do wonder if the one she saw killing Baldur was Kratos, which is why she goes out of her way to hide them from him, she also recognized him immediately and knew what he was. It's never brought up and there's not any journal entries about it. That only applies to this game, the devs did deviate every now and then from the actual mythos, but for the most part, it's fairly accurate.

@Souphover

29 күн бұрын

God I hate her so much

The cycle ends here. We most be better than this.

You guys got to start on the next god of war you can play as atreus

@cait_and_kati

29 күн бұрын

That’s the plan 👀 -K

@tenfold9769

29 күн бұрын

@@cait_and_kati niceee 🔥💪🏽

feel free to miss hidden chests, we want to watch you play and have fun, not search every nook and cranny. That's not the funnest to watch

I don’t get how y’all can still like Freya after what she did to her own son

@7Link7

29 күн бұрын

Freya did NOTHING wrong.

@Souphover

29 күн бұрын

@@7Link7 she cast a spell on her own son without his consent where he could no longer taste, smell or even feel bro didn’t even have the sweet release of death to look forward to and she could’ve broken the spell anytime she wanted but instead she just let him suffer for 100 years

@Souphover

29 күн бұрын

@@7Link7pls hurry up and respond

@luisalmanza119

29 күн бұрын

if i like kratos after all the shit he did, i can give freya the benefit of the doubt

@Souphover

29 күн бұрын

@@luisalmanza119 this way worse than anything kratos has ever done kratos just killed people badly meanwhile Freya doomed her son who she loves to eternal torture

.....really....Had to milk this Shit huh...smh

Baldur is now cursed with vulnerability to most things, physical and magical.

"I killed my father. And my mother. And my grandfather. And my uncles and aunts. And many of my half-siblings and cousins. And half of my homeland. And my first wife. And our daughter."

@cryhwks

4 күн бұрын

Yes, I feel like him killing his wife and daughter is a lot worse than killing his "father",Kratos had zero attachment to Zeus being his father, because he never raised him, Kratos finds out like the day before he kills Zeus that Zeus is his father. And Zeus was a piece of shit that deserved to die. I understand they were just hammering home the cycle of a child killed their parent. But in terms of the awful shit Kratos has done, killing Zeus is pretty low on the list.