In the beginning, you think Saul is a jerk off, but the more you see him, you come to really like him. Amazing acting by Michael Hogan.

@hibbidyjibbidyy

3 ай бұрын

there is a reason adama was his besti, and it wasnt because he was a mean drunk

@marcelsgroot

Ай бұрын

yes i agree

@NightRunner417

Ай бұрын

Yeah I frackin hated his character at first but he really grew on me over time. You fooled us all, you frackin' toaster!

Feel sorry for the guy honestly. He was so loyal to Adama and the ship. Broke his heart to find out he was a Cylon and even harder to tell his best friend.

@andreww2098

2 жыл бұрын

In the end what he was was less important than who he was

@moteroargentino7944

2 жыл бұрын

Really. Still, he technically wasn't a Cylon, he was from the 13th tribe. Maybe his ancestors were enemies of humanity but he and the other 4 never were.

@Abu_Brandino

2 жыл бұрын

@@moteroargentino7944 13th tribe are Cylons.

@moteroargentino7944

2 жыл бұрын

@@Abu_Brandino Nope, the Cylons were made by the colonials IN the 12 colonies. We don't know exactly who created the 13th tribe but what's sure is that they first appearance was in Kobol, waay before the Cylons existed. If anything, they're their ancestors, but they're not the same.

@Abu_Brandino

2 жыл бұрын

@@moteroargentino7944 Kobol: Birthplace of the human race. Humans build Cylons. End up in a war. Kobol is abandoned. Cylons make a truce with Humans and both go separate ways. Humans go to the 12 worlds becoming what we know as the Colonials and Cylons go to Earth v1. Cylons “evolve” through manufacturing to become biological. Cylons then build their own robot slaves. End up in another war. Final 5 leave Earth v1 to warn the colonials not to make more Cylons. Too late, they did and now they witness tribes being destroyed soon after because they’re captured by the Cylons of the 12 worlds.

Best frakking character in the whole series. The only guy who stayed consistent, even when he found out the truth. Years ago I found the company that made Tigh’s flask and got one personalized-engraved with his “That’s the man I want to be” quote.

@kawibil

2 жыл бұрын

Frakking nice! What's the company name ?

@DrFranklynAnderson

2 жыл бұрын

@@kawibil It’s the Visol Handle flask with built-in cigarette case. I got it seven years ago-looks like the merchant I bought it from went defunct long ago, and Visol themselves don’t offer it anymore. Your best bet’s probably eBay or other online flea markets. Good luck!

@LordTalax

2 жыл бұрын

@@DrFranklynAnderson So you can be the drunk like him.

@paulmichaelfreedman8334

2 жыл бұрын

@@LordTalax Finding out he was a cylon straightened him out and he quit drinking(after the storm was over)

@GameslordXY

2 жыл бұрын

Consistent isn't necessarily a good thing. It means predictable. Over and over and over again. He had his moments,but overall I hated him. Only when he was switched ON , I started to like him a bit. More than a bit perhaps.

The bravest thing Saul Tigh ever did. Not volunteering to be flushed out an airlock. Telling his friend, Adama, the truth about himself.

The funniest thing is that if Tigh's full memories returned, he is actually a brilliant scientist. lol

Saul's expression when suggesting to flush him out of an airlock. Love. ç_ç

@vadimkarchik5521

2 жыл бұрын

Do a pose like Giant Dad from Dark Souls)

@marianpazdzioch6632

2 жыл бұрын

He wanted to die

@JaiWithani

Жыл бұрын

He always gets really excited about killing cylons.

Incredible acting by Michael Hogan here. Saul is such a hardass but here he's completely terrified about telling his best friend the truth 💔

@dm121984

Жыл бұрын

He did a fantastic job throughout the series - and he had to play alot of 'roles', drunkard, recovering capable officer, hardass, rebel leader, traumatised widower, and more.

@kinbolluck476

Жыл бұрын

Hes awesome

@kinbolluck476

Жыл бұрын

Hebmake me cri with his old man badassery

"When I met you, you had hair." Priceless.

@pamelabillings4293

Жыл бұрын

Truly priceless. I remembered that line all these years.🤣🤣🤣

@hibbidyjibbidyy

3 ай бұрын

well, bill im highly advanced......then theyy would laugh for 10 full minutes

Rarely have two roles been so perfectly cast. Beyond the powerful performances, it's the minutiae of the scene that gets me. Saul is a badass, but he hesitated in coming clean to his best friend. Even though he knows he's a cylon, he's made a choice to remain true to who he has always been. But in the face of a crisis, he chooses to sacrifice himself as a pawn and bargaining chip to avoid the loss of hostages. And look at how Adama reacts throughout the scene. At first he simply dismisses his friend's claims. Then he starts trying to reason with him ("when I first met you, you had hair") Tigh logically argues that he could be a different kind of cylon. Then Adama, worried now, argues the cylons messed with him on New Caprica, but Tigh remains adamant. You can sense Adama's desperation, his desire for this not to be true. Tigh, too doesn't want it to be true, but he knows, and he's playing his final card, coming clean, to give his friend a way out. It's such an amazing scene -- and it gets even more intense in the climax, when he stands in the airlock, telling Apollo to "do it." Saul Tigh is the ultimate, most loyal of badasses.

@randomlyentertaining8287

Жыл бұрын

And Micheal Hogan is an amazing actor. Hope he gets better and can do more work.

Next-level coming out scene.

@okramoffacebook1381

Жыл бұрын

Trans-Cylon

"I should have told you but I didn't have the guts"

@danbrown5736

2 жыл бұрын

"the GATS"

@ftab

2 жыл бұрын

"You don't have any guts... you're a frakkin machine!"

@moteroargentino7944

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe not doing something when you should is a lack of guts. But admitting it, and being willing to make up for it, definitely takes some. Saul is one of my favorite characters.

Adama is such a cool customer in this scene. No one else could play that part

@MrRandomcommentguy

2 жыл бұрын

Except maybe, I dunno, Lorne Greene?

@AlpenTree

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrRandomcommentguy of course! Hilarious because I am now rewatching The original series on Amazon prime. 😁. Saw the original movie in 1978 on the big screen, watched the TV series in 2008.

The balls, the engineered balls on Saul. More human than human?

@BrucknerMotet

2 жыл бұрын

high quality skin job, with independence and loyalty to his friends too. The kind the Blade Runners have no business taking in.

@rikk319

2 жыл бұрын

@@BrucknerMotet Replicants in Blade Runner weren't machines. In both movies they were genetically engineered humans. Their creator himself, in the first film, talks about their RNA, and how they developed a disease to cause them to die young. Machines don't have genetics or get ill from diseases. I guess Blade Runner and BG both have an underlying concept of not judging a book by their cover, but by what's inside the cover. Saul was a commendable person.

@johnsmith-de3tl

2 жыл бұрын

to be fair, non of the final five where skin jobs. not that we know anything about the 13th, i doubt they grew em in vats or spun them up in machins. seeing that boomer got prego and non of the colonial cylons even knew that it was a feature, the five might have been born,

@AnonD38

2 жыл бұрын

Well he was actually one of the Cylons who were born, not manufactured, though I guess the differences are not really easily definable when talking about Cylons.

@moteroargentino7944

2 жыл бұрын

He's one of the final five, last survivors of the 13th colony of Kobol, that from what we can gather were the descendants of the machine servants of the 12 tribes of Kobol. They advanced so much that became undistinguishable from regular humans, being born and aging like one too. It's hinted that it's a recurring cycle: organic creates machine, machine rebels. Sometimes organic wins, a time goes by and they do it again (12 Colonies). Sometimes machine wins or leaves, and start developing organic bodies until the cycle repeats (13th Colony). And sometimes both sides kill each other out (13th Colony too). The Cylons from the colonies were still in their mechanic phase while fighting their creators (12 Colonies). Had the final 5 not showed up, chances are they would've won the war and repeated the cycle becoming human on their own. The final five just speeded up the process in exchange for an armistice.

If only more people could learn from this show. Especially writers, actors, and all movies and tv shows.

@gabrielpaige3514

2 жыл бұрын

@@justinhigner3344 Excellent! That deserves a So say we all!!!

@mrsaltyauthor5992

2 жыл бұрын

This show is absolutely an inspiration for my novels, from world building to character BSG is one of the 3 that I always go back to for inspiration

@mrsaltyauthor5992

2 жыл бұрын

@Douglas Pantera Mass Effect and Eric Nylunds Halo Novels

@cb-gz1vl

2 жыл бұрын

Learn what? How to set people up then throw a monkey wrench in to create hyper unrealistic drama. People simply are not this dysfunctional. And some crisis doesn't excuse this. Its drama for drama sake only, not good writing. Most of this show was hyper exaggerated emotions and abuse of women.

@LordTalax

2 жыл бұрын

Meh if you like an emo mess.

The only thing he was afraid of was the consequences of telling his best friend the truth and how he would feel. He was never afraid to be sacrificed if need be for everyone. Dude's loyalty was something even the universe' infinite reach couldn't contain

I came out the other side of this series with such a great love of the Saul character. It was 100% because of how good an actor Michael Hogan is.

This show is SO. FUCKING. GOOD. There's NEVER been anything like it on TV. NOTHING. No show has scenes that carry this amount of weight.

@dotdashdotdash

2 жыл бұрын

the more years go by, the better it looks

@Scyllax

2 жыл бұрын

Except the original series and the second series.

@paulrandig

2 жыл бұрын

Babylon 5 isn't bad, either. I wouldn't want to chose. Each one is magnificent in its' own way.

@chrisalister2297

2 жыл бұрын

@@paulrandig B5 is good, for sure. BSG for me, is better if I had to choose. Still B5 came out, what, early 1990s when CG was done on the Video Toaster. The story line was good though. :)

@fxalexei

2 жыл бұрын

you're wrong, this show is not so fucking good ... it's so FRAKING good !

Needless to say, Adama doesn't take this very well. In a show where people are losing everything, everyone has a breaking point. This becomes one of Adama's, and rightfully so. Who could take this kind of news well?! I felt bad for both characters; they were both put between the rock and a hard place, and both cracked a bit. It was inevitable.

I'd completely forgotten about this storyline. I'm thinking it is about time I revisited the show from the beginning.

the subtle use of the light over his head. outstanding!

"You've got to scrub this mission. I'm a Cylon." "Let me get this straight. You're a member of the species that wiped out my species in a nuclear genocide, and your ability to pass as human was so sophisticated that you fooled me-one of humanity's most formidable Cylon fighters-into making you my right-hand man." "Yes, but..." "You've just admitted to lying to me for a period of time I'm supposed to believe was only a few weeks. And now you're asking me to take your word for it and cancel a mission of existential importance." "I know it sounds suspicious, but-" "And you're not *just* an infiltrator android, you're as close to a physical machine God as these psycho tin cans have, and arguably are responsible for making them in the first place." "Yes." "WELCOME TO THE TEAM, BUDDY."

I LOVE Col Tigh. No other character goes through as many life changing events and yet he's the exact same person at the end. Finds out hes a cylon and it dont change his position one bit.

I loved Tigh's character arc so much. At the beginning of the series I couldn't stand that cowardly drunk. By the end he was my favorite character. Michael Hogan was just marvelous. Met him at a con a number of years ago and he was unbelievably nice, fun, and engaging. He took pictures with my wife and I free of charge, sat and talked with us, and cracked jokes. A warm and wonderful human being. Such a shame what happened to him, but I'm still hoping he'll make enough of a recovery to be able to live the rest of his life in some type of comfort.

ONE OF THE BEST SCENE OF BATTLESTAR GALACTICA. Replay that again and again!

I remember, first time I watched this I cried with Adama…one of the best scene ever

yes and he was so loyal to his captain

I loved this show. Looked forward to watching every week. What a cast!

1) alchoholic 2) simp (to his wife) 3) vengefull 4) sometimes crazy 5) tough as nails when it comes to military issues Same time, as loyal a person can be. This scene is one of those scenes explain why Adama respects him so much.

@daddystu7046

Жыл бұрын

Such depth to a character. His only real flaw was hating Kara Thrace!

you get to be a cylon! and you get to be a cylon! and you get to be a cylon!

This series was freaking awesome.. So much excellent Drama !!! and twists !!!

Saul stayed true to himself the entire time.

That’s the best example of a good friend and a great soldier.

One of the best scenes of the series!

“Frickin’ frackin’!” I forgot how mesmerizingly good this show is. Ending’s a bit underwhelming, but the journey is the reward.

Admiral Adama is such a cool, unemotional cat that he reminds me of Lieutenant Marty Castillo in the Miami Vice TV show, Crockett and Tubbs boss.

@OldGeezer55

2 жыл бұрын

"Quiet chuckle" Ya know, he's great in every thing he's in. "So say we all!" gets to me every time I hear it because of the power he gives it. WORDS SPOKEN WELL AND WITH CONVICTION ARE POWERFUL! So say we all.

@exposingproxystalkingorgan4164

2 жыл бұрын

@@OldGeezer55 😂✋️

@4spbiz

Жыл бұрын

Yeah they seem so much alike

@tyrantworm7392

Жыл бұрын

This Adama has faced skin jobs before.

@exposingproxystalkingorgan4164

Жыл бұрын

@@tyrantworm7392 Oh yes, Edward Olmos was in Blade Runner 1 and 2.

Saul had some huge balls

I felt the pain first time seeing this scene, but I bursted out laughing when Adama brought up Saul's alopecia lol LOSS OF HAIR

3:25 Look at this photo. Number six is ​​poorly framed, as if the photographer didn't see it. I love this detail!

He hangs on words with all the talent of Matt Berry

The writers used a dart board to decide who would be a cylon that week.

The reveal was so heart breaking for adama.

I liked this shows. Perhaps the only time liked a reboot better than the original. But this was a real jump the shark moment for me.

What's ironic about the "Final Five" is that they were in fact the First Five Cylons, rather than the last. As revealed in the series finale, the Cylon were a race of humans who evolved on nuked Earth 2000 years earlier. They developed two key technologies: AI-based mechanoid servants and human clone resurrection. In the wake of their planet's nuclear destruction, they used the resurrection technology to travel at sub-light speed to the 12 Colonies. By the time these multiply-resurrected clones arrived thousands of years later, the Colonists had reinvented mechanoid Centurion technology. These Colonists were descendents of the original Cylon humans, i.e. ALL humans in the series are Cylons. The difference between the Colonists and the Final Five/12 "models" is that the latter were downloaded and cloned in the Cylon Resurrection Ship. Once that technology was destroyed, the cloned Cylon humans reverted back to their normal human lifespans. That's why they were able to merge back together with the Colonists on verdant Earth to become the ancestors of our human race. After the Final Five arrived in the 12 Colonies, they resurrected additional human clones, starting with Cavil and ending up with 12 cloned "models". Cavil rebelled against the Final Five, wiped their memories, and exiled them across the Colonies. He then concocted "The Plan" - a giant hoax whose intent was to trick everyone into believing the 12 human clones were implacable machines, no different in nature than the robot Centurions. In reality, the Centurions weren't AI "children" who evolved into humanoid robots and murderously turned on their creators, they were sentient automatons commandeered by Cavil and his naive cloned cultists to enact revenge on the Colonists. The Centurions' true allegiances became brutally apparent once they were released from their cybernetic restraints during the Cylon civil war, and they promptly slaughtered Cavil and his allies. Once the human Cylons settled down on verdant Earth, the Centurions departed in their own spacecraft to explore the rest of the universe.

@voidseeker4394

8 ай бұрын

I've learned about existing of Battlestar Galactica only recently, but i always thought that most sci-fi took weird approach of thinking that human-made AI would be totally alien, nothing like it's creators. But the truth is that we create robots in our own image. Trying to copy our bodies (androids), and brains (neural networks). So it is very likely that the robots we make would be way closer to us than the authors think. Battlestar Galactica developes this idea perfectly.

Loyalty. Honor.

Is he a Cylon, or is he a Saulon?

@johngregory4801

2 жыл бұрын

As Kosh would say... Yes.

@buddits

2 жыл бұрын

no he is a survivor of the 13th colony, not a cylon.

@filthycasual8187

2 жыл бұрын

@@buddits The 13th colony were all Cylons.

@nurse0857

Жыл бұрын

I see what you did there. 🤣🤣

putting lead cylons in human strog postions like this is a idea that i have always pondered , yeah thats intellgnet as hell

I hate how they keep calling the final 5 Cylons, because they are not Cylons they are survivors of the 13th colony.

@hyperion6902

2 жыл бұрын

and the 13th colony was a colony of cylons..?

@DrFranklynAnderson

2 жыл бұрын

The 13th colony were human-form cylons who became too human. Discovered how to reproduce naturally, then invented their own centurions who eventually rebelled against their creators. All of this has happened before…

@crimecat1483

2 жыл бұрын

@@DrFranklynAnderson and is eventually going to happen agian... and agian... and agian...

@DrFranklynAnderson

2 жыл бұрын

@crime cat Yep. That’s exactly how I interpreted the final scene of the finale, with all the focus on our current advances in robotics. It’s happening _again…_

@Nghilifa

2 жыл бұрын

@@DrFranklynAnderson The 13th colony were human form cylons created by actual humans. They warred first, but came to a truce with the humans leaving and eventually forming the 12 colonies, whilst the cylons left to Earth 1 (not our earth) to start their own civilization. They then made their own robot slaves, got into another war that devastated Earth 1, and the final 5 (who had invented resurrection tech) went to find the 12 colonies to warn them about creating more cylons for themselves. They failed since the resurrection ship did not have faster than light engines.

Anyone else hold their breath through that whole thing?

Tigh is the perfect soldier. Loyal to his command, ship and people. It doesn't matter your origins. Duty is a personal promise. Tell me I'm wrong

Like finding out you are an alien plant on earth. Would live and die for the earth and its people but you are still an alien creation. Not that I would know of course...

What always bothered me about the drama and weight of this revelation is that none of them are truly Cylons in the sense we traditionally think. They're not the enemy, even slightly, they're just like... ancient humans who literally left their world to warn the other colonies of the danger of... the Cylons. I always felt calling them cylon was a gross mischaracterization. They're no more "Cylon" than the humans running from them.

@mariopadilla1445

Жыл бұрын

That was kind of the point. It’s supposed to bother you, and draw out these feelings of disgust for the term and comparison of species. That’s good writing

@whiiir

Жыл бұрын

@@mariopadilla1445 all of this has happened before and it will happen again.

@jonsher7682

9 ай бұрын

Then from my perspective, you missed the broader them of the show: the battle between Good and Evil was not between Human and Cylon; the battle was what each character endures inside because we all have qualities that can be good or evil depending upon context.

@Dularr

8 ай бұрын

You can also pull elements from the Caprica series. While the series was a mess, it's implied the humans created a VR world where you could be uploaded. A character was killed in a terrorist attack, but was uploaded to VR world. That would fit with what happened on old Earth. The final five were uploaded to VR world, then downloaded to Cylons. From there they created the humanoid Cylons.

Such amazing casting in the whole series. And Michael Hogan was chief among that.

Fraking amazing series.

This was where the show lost me... the whole final 5 Fine performances throughout the show and some wonderful episodes but I think the writer's strike hurt the show I can only rewatch up to the escape from New Caprica these days

@CDbiggen

Жыл бұрын

I know what you mean

@Onigirli

Жыл бұрын

Huh? What would the writer's strike have to do with anything

@RoninDave

Жыл бұрын

agreed. I checked out precisely because of the "reveal" of the 5 hidden cylons. There was no way this was in the original concept of the show in the first (better) two seasons.

Saul became one of the best characters

That's his true from-Saul-to-Paul-moment

Colonel Tigh, it is time. Execute Order 66.

@jesse3333

Жыл бұрын

Order 69. And now lay down sir.

The guy who hated cylons more than anything or anyone else is a cylon, I like how it wasn't a sudden choice either,it was set up since he first "guessed" an incoming missile attack in season 1.

@HALLish-jl5mo

4 ай бұрын

It was a sudden choice. The writers admitted they picked the final 5 to be the must surprising, not the most logical. It was a late decision, and they admitted it kinda sucked

Him being a cylon was the dumbest route the show took

@Roberto577_One

7 ай бұрын

The actors did a hell of a job selling it tho

Me during this scene: "Oh look, Adama is pointing out the shitty writing and plot holes!"

Oh cool I love Firefly. The Spice must flow! ENGAGE!

@troyjollimore4100

2 жыл бұрын

“Luke… Live long and prosper!”

@heathb4319

2 жыл бұрын

I aim to mis.....Oh behave baby...Now this is pod rac....Shut-up Wesley!

@Sky_Guy

2 жыл бұрын

This is what all of us space geeks are gonna sound like in the hospital on life support, mumbling to our loved ones xD

@heathb4319

2 жыл бұрын

@@Sky_Guy ,,,Soooo true. All of our cool happy thoughts floating around in there like a pinball machine while we are in a state of bliss while our loved ones try to figure out why we are smiling.

@troyjollimore4100

2 жыл бұрын

@@Sky_Guy ‘Loved ones’? 😄

Alternate title: Battlestar Galactica writers “Jump the Shark”.

Love Saul Tigh's thinking of Deanna will back down if Adama threatens to Flush Saul Tigh out of the airlock. Gotta love Tigh, he atayed loyal even after finding out that he's a cylon.

I wonder how many people had this show spoiled completely by all these uploads from this channel.

So Saul and Anders created a rebel cell inside the occupation of New Caprica using the occasional colonist as suicide bombers to kill Cylons not knowing at the time them two were Cylons on the first place. Sort of gives the definition of Irony.

@Velanteg

5 ай бұрын

Imagine how Cavil was amused with that.

That's when Adama went off the rails.

Man, this whole final 5 thing really fell apart. Apparently the writers just pulled names out of a hat and worked from there, so the final five made no sense thematically or in terms of plot. I think if this had been the plan all along, this would have made more sense. As is, it was the first step toward this show's poor ending.

@Dmarcoot

9 ай бұрын

I agree

@ray24051

7 ай бұрын

Yeah I find this plot point a huge contradiction especially when they had everyone tested to see if they were a Cylon.

@Velanteg

5 ай бұрын

If you rewatch episode "33" you will see Chief and Saul are not look tired, same as Boomer, while all other clearly falling already.

Wish I knew what season and episode this is, I'd pull out my DVD's.

Think finding out Saul Tigh was a Cylon made Bill and Saul friendship even stronger.

This was the point where things went a bit dumb. The actual logistics of Tigh having always been a cylon makes no sense at all. The story just kept doing things at this stage with no thought about how it would fit together with the story they had already told, and this is where that problem was most evident. Really frustrating for a series that started off so incredibly strong.

@totalbro

Жыл бұрын

How do the logistics fail, in your view?

@euanmacleod3738

Жыл бұрын

@@totalbro I guess the shortest way to say it would be to describe the path of Tigh's life through the story from when his life started to when the story ended. To do that I guess you also have to start further back, and describe the final five plotline, how and why they predate the first cylon war by so much, how and why they planted Tigh where they did. Bearing in mind that Tigh is not a mysterious character - he has been well known to Adama for decades - yet whatever his cover was held up all that time. The bow on it is that the final five all end up together, meaning it was staggeringly good luck, or the success of a plan that could essentially write the script for the show.

@totalbro

Жыл бұрын

@@euanmacleod3738unexplained is not the same as making no sense ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@euanmacleod3738

Жыл бұрын

@@totalbro Haha, my response was more to demonstrated that there is no explanation we could even speculate that would be coherent with the story - that would make sense. This is because the way the plot twist changes the story we have been told is not compatible with the story we have been told. But your response also makes the point quite strongly - I agree this plot point comes without explanation. It is a pivotal thing that happens in the story, that changes the story, that is unexplained. This is a critique of storytelling, not a defence. When things are just happening in a story, and characters are just doing things, and we have no idea how or why, and the story does not address how or why, then the narrative no longer makes sense. It's pretty much rock bottom, from a writing point of view. Traditionally, when a story has a twist that changes the plot you thought you knew, it will go to pains to explain/show that this change is compatible with the story. Of course, they cannot do that here because it's a total mess back there.

@sallybrookner4158

7 ай бұрын

@@euanmacleod3738 Totally agree. So, for example, one of the things that was so great about the first 4 seasons of GOT were the meaningful character arcs. So something shocking and at first blush unexpected would happen, but then if reflected upon you could see it was almost inevitable given a character’s psychology. Such a shame, first 2 seasons BSG were so good.

Greatest sci-fi show ever. Yt sux

So this was a very good Sci Fi but in the end almost half the cast was Cylon, WTH?

Thanks for the spoiler. I mean I know I'm late to the party, but can you not put it in the title of the video? I'm not even looking up Battlestar content and this just popped up on my front page... was just going to finally watch this series with my friend, and this really took the wind out of my sails.

You gotta do what ya gotta do. I'm six the cylon. Miss J

Adama believing Saul was fraking around.

And after he lead the crew through the paper shortage :'(

When I met you, you had hair. 🤣

I just hated how this series became "you won't believe who's a cylon!"

@x--.

Жыл бұрын

It's a tough one, the story they wanted to tell involved subverting the expectation. The idea that the thing you hate is also the thing you love. The same way Billy was clearly supposed to be Laura's cylon. The same way Galactica's cylon was Chief Tyrol. Starbuck had Anders. In fact, I think part of the justification for why the fleet was able to survive so well and for so long was this point -- they had cylon help. That said, that final season felt like: We had this great idea for how to end this when the show started but we hadn't fully fleshed it out and now that we are there are some problems but let's just keep cobbling things together. So yeah, Cylon of the week style. But I don't think the idea was bad, just some of the execution.

@87Tempests

Жыл бұрын

Ellen being the final cylon was a a totally stupid decision. It should have been Lee (cylon president) or Zack, lee's "dead" brother resurrected at the end of the series

Great spoiler, Great moment. Great show.

@MapleBalls

Жыл бұрын

Extra spoiler... Xena the princess warrior makes a decision...

"Like Boomer" pulls out a pistol

OK !

he should have told him when he first found out, but he didnt have the GYUTS

@allenharper2928

Жыл бұрын

*Frakkin' GYUTS.

Who wasn't a Cylon on that show?

What I really don't like about the Show's premise is the premise itself. The armistice was signed. The war was over. Than suddenly they went back and created trash synthetic Humans, and the War began anew. And this time it was a one sided genocide. All this senseless murder.

@moteroargentino7944

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. All because of the parental issues with one of the models (Cavil). I felt like such amount of destruction and death should have been more justified. The Cylons from the first war were more mature than the skin jobs.

@GJ_DM

2 жыл бұрын

@@moteroargentino7944 Didn't we find out that the colonies were disrespecting the armistice? Didn't the Cylons realize the humans would never trust their mutual existence and decided to act before humanity eventually did?

@x--.

Жыл бұрын

@@GJ_DM Not just anyone disrespecting the armistice either... eh? I agree that premise is a tough pill to swallow. You hate your parents so much you wipe their memory and send them to live with your enemy and... yada, yada. I might be misremembering but I do think the colonies were up to shenanigans and the Cylons expected that.

@Geminias

Жыл бұрын

Can't really blame the show though. The writers strike happened and the show kind of took a left turn before sticking the landing for the finale.

@hiuto2

Жыл бұрын

The humans had sinned against god. Human had to be shown the path of god, and the skin cylons knew that path. There was alot of that going on in the show.

Voice. Speech. In private. Disclosures.

Y’all just gonna out that right there in the title so I have to see it as I scroll past? 😐

I want a reboot tvshow about Galactica , when started war with Cylions, because Caprica was horrible 😢.

@Necromonger69

2 жыл бұрын

I think a reboot of the show will just ruin the spirit of the show. Can't make a show as good as this in this day and age.

@multitudeofidols

2 жыл бұрын

Well, first, they are working on a reboot that's expected to air later this year, last I heard (no idea where it is in development). Second _Caprica_ started its first half with a slow crawl, but did pick up in the second half, just in time for Syfy to cancel it, so they could replace it _Blood & Chrome..._ then backed out because _that_ was horrible.

@Necromonger69

2 жыл бұрын

@@multitudeofidols Caprica was bad, it was like watching a sci-fi daytime soap opera.

@RenegadeShepTheSpacer

2 жыл бұрын

@@multitudeofidols Syfy are a bunch of morons. Their cancellations of Stargate proved that nicely. That was almost as bad as when Firefly was cancelled.

@Necromonger69

2 жыл бұрын

@@RenegadeShepTheSpacer Firefly was a great show.

Funny thing is, the final 5 are not Cylons at all. They only think so because Cavil number 1 wiped their minds out of anger for his own creation.

you can look at feel face what do mean that you are the finally five sail

So by random chance the 5 hidden cylons the main cylons were after just all happen to wind up in the one fleet that survived a planetary system holocaust? Two of them just happened to marry each other and another just happened to get picked up by Starbuck from an irradiated occupied world? And they all get switched on by a Bob Dylan song? Man, this show went from having such potential to devolving into a soap opera drama with melodramatic surprise reveals and out-of-character actions for the sake of gasps rather than narrative sense.

As far as I am concerned, I dont see a difference between humans and the cylons from the 13th tribe. Their ancestors might have been created, but Saul and the others were born, they had parents. Thats as human as something can possibly get. I know there are differences, technically, but they are inconsequential to me.

The character should of been resurrected, just so he could come back with a functional eyeball. That would completely make the point.

Can you not put a major spoiler from the end of the show in the title? Think of people who haven't watched it.

@emcats84

Жыл бұрын

Word of advice when watching a show: Stay off the internet.

@rupen42

Жыл бұрын

@@emcats84 I already watched it over 10 years ago.

А вдруг ТАЙ сайлон, хочет сказать об этом "Старику". 👁️🔉✔️

Such a shame the last few season were so terrible. This show had such great potential before it became a shitshow.

Eh I feel like everytime they couldn't think of a better idea, they just went "Uh Oh, this character is a cyclon!" to try to spice it up 75% of the fucking ship's crew were cylons by the end of it. It just made the whole thing boring.

Never liked, that they made last cylons like that, the last part of SBG gone little overboard with mysticism, and rely less on scifi. It is watchable end, but it could be better with staying more on scifi track... P.S. Yes, Tigh was one of my favourite characters from the start... P.P.S. My favourite cylon was Three!

I don’t want to watch the whole entire series so this is perfect ! I was wondering who the final five were and now I know at least one of them! 😝😝 By the way, what the heck is the final five?

@luisdonoso6154

2 жыл бұрын

You should watch it, it's frakkin worth it

Что Соул Тай Сайлон. Говорит что музыка его сводит. 🎵🔊

Tigh was at least honorable!