Battle of the PRC Rifle Cartridges (6.5PRC vs 7 PRC vs 300PRC)
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00:00 Intro
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01:47 Milk jug penetration test
04:37 Rifles
05:10 Ballistics comparison (trajectory and wind drift)
06:06 Shooting a sledgehammer
06:39 Recoil comparison
07:40 Ballistics gel test
09:37 Overall comparison of 6.5PRC, 7PRC, and 300PRC
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@miketyson8933
Жыл бұрын
Seriously dude, I have the Christensen MPR .300 PRC and my 8 year old son shoots it with a bipod the recoil is almost nothing because of that break and I didn't even take any of the top screws out. Funny how you guys talk about recoil.....STOP IT!
@hantusmostert
10 ай бұрын
Neck the 300PRC down to 300WSM/PRC
@JJ-iu5hl
6 ай бұрын
@@miketyson8933He did specifically say put a brake on it. But a brake adds backward blast, which exacerbates hearing damage hunters have always faced. Minimizing recoil when a bigger round is unnecessary is almost always better for a number of reasons. But I'm glad the two of you do well with the cartridge. And most importantly, I'm glad you're engaging with your son. Well done on that front.
Nobody gonna comment on the decision to park the pickup beside the target? Edit... Now it is his truck. His rifle so have at it. My comment was more to poke fun at Mark than question His range safety habits. He is a smart guy and nobody was in trouble but his truck. I am sure he is more safe on the range than alot folks commenting. This channel has a lot of good information and I encourage folks to stick around.
@JOSHUAGROY
Жыл бұрын
exactly
@TurboToby
Жыл бұрын
I am absolutely dumbfounded that the truck was parked next to the target like that.
@jerryk4320
Жыл бұрын
not my pickup
@zacharyharwell351
Жыл бұрын
Range day + car wash day
@stirlingshirah1513
Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure he was hoping the comment section would light up about this topic just to help his KZread algorithms.
How can they be the 3 most popular hunting cartridges on the market if one of them isn't on the market?
@driftertank
Жыл бұрын
Because "Marketing Hype."
@jaredstewmelt
Жыл бұрын
I mean... Based on Jim's own top 15 article from just a few months back, the 6.5 PRC isn't even top 5 and the 300 PRC barely makes top 10. And even IF we ignore 22LR and 223 Rem from that list (#1 and #2 respectively, cuz we are talking about hunting) and even IF we knock off 22-250 cuz we are nervous about shooting bigger game with it (#8) that puts 6.5 PRC in the #5 spot and 300 PRC in at #7 Sooooo... Still not even close.
@mot0rhe4d40
Жыл бұрын
@@jaredstewmelt All a man has to do is look. What is on the selves right now? 308 is definitely leading the way. '06 is most certainly right there. And while it is not on the shelves in abundance at the moment 30-30 is most certainly more popular than any of the new wiz bang calibers.
@donnysanner342
Жыл бұрын
@@jaredstewmelt Man you said EXACTLY what I was thinking. I like this guy however.....well enough said.
@donnysanner342
Жыл бұрын
Brother I really don't see what your excited about.....yeah they're great if your shooting 1000 yards. However you said the best hunting rounds....Brother most of disagree I'm sure....
The stopping power on the 300 prc along with the accuracy at long ranges, shooting heavy high bc bullets, it’s unmatched. Favorite round ever
@phillycheesetake
Жыл бұрын
It is literally OUTmatched by the 7prc.
@alexmills1329
Жыл бұрын
@@phillycheesetakeuntil you get some 230/250 a tips in that 300… if you really need a more consistent shooting round, which outside of bragging rights most don’t.
@phillycheesetake
Жыл бұрын
@@alexmills1329 Sure, then you get it's ballistic twin...with more powder, higher-cost projectiles, larger action size, more recoil, etc. With anything lighter, the 7mm pulls ahead, with the heaviest EOL bullets they're tied in everything but projectile weight.
@alexmills1329
Жыл бұрын
@@phillycheesetake it’s actually really impressive what some of those heavy .30’s are doing, not to take away from the 7’s because they are definitely the sweet spot, but these things look like they can go out and replace a good 338 even out to ELR depending on how they shake out. I haven’t shot them yet and I don’t have a range for over 800 yards but on paper they blow me away.
@groundcontrol5365
Жыл бұрын
@@phillycheesetake Except 7 prc will burn barrels faster. And tbh the guys who want to shoot 300 prc are trying to replace 338 lapua and a 230 grain 300 prc does that better than a 195 7mm PRC. Trajectory is the same but energy on target isn't really close
I would like to see a head to head with the 7PRC and the 6.8 Western. What a cool match up that would be.
@mryang3644
Жыл бұрын
Vs 7LRM ....... I'm sure it's the same ballistics from Gunwerks creation.
@lesliegreco-pool1960
Жыл бұрын
I want to see the 7 SAUM vs 7 PRC comparison video! Jim, you have both. When my SAUM barrel is done, what should I get?
@tobyh3681
Жыл бұрын
Ron Spomer just did a recent vid on these two.
@tec9944
Жыл бұрын
@@lesliegreco-pool1960 the saum is literally hard to beat. Flat hard hitting long range power house that can be loaded low or hi big or low recoil, favorite round ever
I've recently started really using my 6.5 PRC and the ELD-X ammunition. Usually I spend most of my time shooting hogs at night with my Grendel but my land owner friend/neighbor asked me to help him with his Aoudad problem. The Aoudad are eating up at least half of the food he puts out for the White tail, Axis and Elk we have here in SSW Texas. I've now killed three Aoudad at about 160 yards and all have been bang flops. A couple days ago I had the largest hog of my life come in at that range and again, one shot one bang flop. That hog was old. He had not just massive shoulder shields but even down his rib cage. A real gladiator and came in at around 275 pounds. It was nearly dark and I had to opt for a shoulder shot. The bullet penetrated dead center on his shoulder shield and lodged under the off side shield. I would not hesitate to take an Elk with this cartridge. I hate recoil and don't care to go up in caliber and I don't hunt bears so this 6.5 PRC is all I'll ever need. Plus I'm a walnut and blued steel lover and this Winchester Model 70 from FN is the present love of my life. It's a tack driver with factory Hornady 143 grain ELD-X ammo.
Finally the "PRC Shoot out" video we have all been waiting for. Nice job👍🏼
If you needed any more reasons to not use Hornady ELDX bullets!
@jayblemsin4226
3 ай бұрын
I thought everyone loved eldx
This is why we don’t hunt with eldx. You are correct bullet selection is more important than caliber.
I always get excited when I see a backfire video on my feed!!
Jim EXCELLENT video! Whidden makes awesome dies. Keep those 7 PRC videos rolling!
love the water jug tests! more please!
Bless you jim been doing alot of testing with 300 prc vs 30-378 wby mag
Thank you for this very informative publication. It helped me to choose in what my next target rifle would be chambered in. What I really appreciated was your unbiased tests and observations.
Jeez. Now I need 2 more rifles… 🤔 Thanks for the great comparisons and discussion.
Exactly what I was hoping for!
Very nice to see a video shooting out at distance with gel. Thanks for the work, enjoy the warmish weather in St. George!
@US2A
9 ай бұрын
I thought this looked local lol
Been waiting on the 7 PRC for a long time. I knew Hornady would get around to it at some point. Sucks that it’s coming out in this horrible market though.
ELD-X is a bullet I dumped and switched to the Federal Terminal Ascent. Holds together much much better.
Finally someone shooting gel farther then some can throw a rock. Good shooting
Gotta watch this got my Tikka and my VX Freedom because of your channel and I trust your testing more than anyone else
Really liking the 7 PRC videos! Can’t wait to see you use it on some hunts this season. Looking foreword to getting one for myself after they become available!
@tomlarue654
Жыл бұрын
I want to see the difference between the factory 7 PRC and Jim’s ammo.
@hunteranderson93
Жыл бұрын
Yes that will be interesting
@kencleg7721
Жыл бұрын
Big fan of .284 lots of bullets I’ll probably loose all my .264 stuff I like the way they shoot don’t get me wrong just too much to deal with my v l s is rigged for 110 currently I like the way it puts down animals I am not shooting over 200 anymore so the 6.5 is really not needed
@kencleg7721
Жыл бұрын
Let’s see some ballistics info 7 mm prc vs .280 a I ? Any reloading data out on it yet ? Always did like the ol . 284 ballistics very efficient
@kencleg7721
Жыл бұрын
Hopefully it won’t like the really slow stuff like the 6.5 s that’s one reason
Nice! You had me at "For Narnia!" I'm getting really curious about that 7PRC.
Good choice on Preferred Barrels for your 7mm. I have one on a sporter-weight .25-06 Imp. and it's a KILLER barrel.
😅Jim, I have had a great experience watching and reading your content for years - just fun and informative. I am stoked about the 7PRC. It must have cost you family serious cash just getting ammo not to mention the rifle. Have you been seeing ammo for it yet? I hate waiting. Again thanks from So. Oregon
Totally appreciate the education you're giving me. I'm new to the guns and ammo arena and just deciding on which hunting rifle to get. So this is helpful. I keep coming back to the 7mm group so any other advice you wanna send me, I'm open. Good to have a fellow-Utahn on the channels.
It’s telling how confident you are in your shooting with how close your truck is to your target. Nice video as always my friend.
@redrock425
Жыл бұрын
From 100m away I should hope he doesn't hit a truck! Should be trying for sub 0.5MOA 😉
@alumniduck
Жыл бұрын
@@redrock425 Hitting directly I wouldn't worry. However you never know where the bullet goes after it hits a target, especially something like a hammer.
Great review!!! Thank you 😃👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
You should use all 3 rifles to test out the new Hornady CX bullets 😉
@ExF1Guy
Жыл бұрын
@@ronlowney4700 So far my go to for bullet testing has been Frontline Rejects. They don't have a ton of videos, but a decent selection.
@marcmoore4115
Жыл бұрын
@@ExF1Guy I was going to mention the exact same guys. No opinions or 'this is better than that', they just shoot and show the results. I also like that they test at 100 out to 500, because it gives much better info than what many others do.
@KC-7mm
Жыл бұрын
I agree but I think at the least the first ballistic gel needs to be changed out to give the test a fair comparison I think the gel is compromised after the first initial expansion upon entry.
@marcmoore4115
Жыл бұрын
@@KC-7mm that could possibly be, yeah. I don't know the dynamics of the gel, but my brain is telling me that it makes sense that the gel woukd react slightly differently if it already has been shot.
I just want a ballistics gel video about eld-x vs eld-m. Can't find precision hunter anywhere, but Hornady match is falling off the shelves.
Most popular? Never knew any of these outsold 30.06, .308, .270, etc
@WayStedYou
Жыл бұрын
it was sarcasm
@therealjohnsmith4811
Жыл бұрын
@@WayStedYou Poorly done then.
Well I'd love to see the 6.8 Western versus the 7PRC
@tobyh3681
Жыл бұрын
Ron Spomer has a video up comparing these two.
You should do a video on finding ammo for them
You rock man. Great channel.
Confidence is high in shooting that close to the truck!
7mm PRC is the ideal new heavy hitter with reasonable recoil.175 grain is like a 195 grain 308 caliber with regards to sectional density parity.
I would be very interested to see how different the penetration and wound channels would be between the PRCs loaded with monometal bullets.
@marcmoore4115
Жыл бұрын
Yep! Personally, I'm really not a fan of the ELD-X - just look at the bottles.. core and jacket separation, fragments everywhere... not what I personally want from a hunting bullet. I'd love to see this done again with something bonded like Nosler AccuBond and a mono like the Barnes TTSX.
@ryanconger5098
Жыл бұрын
I personally have shot elk with a 300 Win With the ELD-X 200 Grain two shots hit shoulder and exploded and they didn’t penetrate shoulder core and jacket separated not a fan of ELD-X bullets for game went back to Barnes and Nosler for hunting.
@1148bucknasty
Жыл бұрын
Agreed, bonded and monolithic all day for elk
@marcmoore4115
Жыл бұрын
@@ryanconger5098 I haven't tried ELD-X myself, but I have seen one used out of a .300 Win Mag (not sure of weight - I assume 212gr) on a Gemsbok at ~180m. Worked great even though it separated, the Gemsbok went down quick. Comparing it to my .308 with the 165gr AccuBond, the AB expands way more and keeps intact sp it has better penetration. I'm interested in trying Bergers, but I really think the AccuBond and Barnes are the way to go for such large species.
@user-db3ek3lw4y
10 ай бұрын
@marcmoore4115 exactly no way I would use rounds that come apart like that I just bought a 7prc but I will not be using eld x it's basically a v max no thanks
Bullet performance: From my experience, there is a huge difference between the ELDX and TTSX when it comes to performance on animals. They both leave the animals dead, but I just don’t like how the ELDX separates compared to the TTSX and other Barnes and other monos. I feel like if for some reason the bullets don’t perform great, the downside of the monos seems higher than the downside of the ELDX. I’ve seen the TTSX liquify the vitals on numerous whitetails. The ELDX dropped deer in their tracks, but didn’t have the same damage inside. I don’t know if it matters, either. Just my opinion and experiences. I’d love to hear what others have experienced.
Same Christensen MPR I have! Beast I love it
I’d love to see it done with Barnes
It’s videos like this that convinced me to buy a rifle in each of these calibers.
7 PRC wound channel in gel looked wicked
You're shooting those POS ELDX bullets that won't hold together at high velocity.
@jfess1911
Жыл бұрын
The ELD-X is really a budget bullet. Not as complicated as a partition, bonded, or monolithic bullet. It is built for long range accuracy and decent performance at "cup and core" prices. I guess that it would be fine at lower velocities, but I would prefer something else if I thought I might be shooting at short range with one of these higher velocity cartridges.
@jfox71
Жыл бұрын
@@jfess1911 i now shoot federal terminal ascent bullets. I will start handloading them soon.
@jfox71
Жыл бұрын
@@jfess1911 they don't charge budget prices for them.
@jfess1911
Жыл бұрын
@@jfox71 I shoulda probably written: relatively inexpensive to PRODUCE. What they actually charge is another matter.
@jfess1911
Жыл бұрын
@@jfox71 The solid copper base should do an excellent job of penetration. This is the kind of bullet that I think works best when you have a relatively high-velocity cartridge but might also shoot at short range.
We really are coming to a new age of next generation developments in both firearms and ammunition technology. We seem to hit this evolution in each generation. Muzzle loaders to breech loaders. To repeaters with cased ammo, to bolt actions with spitzer bullets. To intermediate rifles and cartridges, to rifles taking electronic optics and ammunition with performances that absolutely blows the previous generations out of the water.
I do think the 6.8 western fits in that mix. It’s the same engineering purpose and design behind it. They all seem to push similar B.C. bullets for the caliber the same velocity. Even though Hornady didn’t design the 6.8 western, it hits that same spot the 7 prc does.
@Liamisdead99
Жыл бұрын
The only thing it has at its advantage is wind drift and is a short action. But it is a great cartridge for deer up to plains game in africa
@marcmoore4115
Жыл бұрын
@@Liamisdead99 here in Africa, many are switching from the .30-06, .270 or .308 they have to a 6.5 Creedmoor for everything up to the 1800lbs Eland. In my eyes, anything from 6.5x47 Lapua (even .25-06 and to SOME extent .243) up to .338 Win Mag will work great for Plains Game. So the 6.8 Western definitely falls into that category. If you pick a good bullet (most outfitters recommend mono or bonded, not something like the ELD-X) and make sure you can shoot the rifle accurately every time... you'll have great results regardless of what you pick, really. My personal choice goes to the .280 AI, but I wouldn't hesitate using a 6.5mm. I currently use .308 and it's plenty punch for Gemsbok.
@Liamisdead99
Жыл бұрын
@@marcmoore4115 I’m currently using a ruger Mkii Hawkeye 7mm 08 with 140 grain Remington core lokts and I’ve taken 4 deer with it and they drop in there tracks so I also see no problem for it for a gemsbok but a little harder to find ammo for than 308.
@marcmoore4115
Жыл бұрын
@@Liamisdead99 People seem to have a stigma of African game being so much tougher. Gemsbok weigh up to 240kg - I've harvested one that weighed around 230kg and have seen one that might actually top 240kg. They definitely are tough, but I don't think they are any tougher than an Elk. When I got my .308, I was actually debating whether I go .308 or 6.5 Creed - I wanted a 7-08, but it's near impossible to find any ammo or rifles for it here in Namibia. I only chose .308 because the only 6.5 Creed ammo frequently available was Match ammo, whereas with .308 I have 4 solid options that are always available... but now that I reload, it doesn't matter anyway 😅 if you ever come to Africa for ains game, there really isn't any reason to buy something bigger than your 7-08. Many outfitters are encouraging using what you are used to and can shoot well and loading it with a good bullet.
@jfess1911
Жыл бұрын
@@Liamisdead99 The 6.8 Western is 2.955" long and won't fit in many short actions. A typical short action is closer to the length of a 308 (2.81" long). Most of the time, they both will be put in a 30-06 (3.34") action.
My 270win has 21" of drop at 500 yards with a MPBR zero. Hard to beat without stepping up greatly in recoil. I see no use for any of these 3 out to 500 yards
@jimedick9496
8 ай бұрын
First of all, the 270 Win is one of my all time favorite cartridges. With that said, the 6.5 PRC has passed it. It retains more energy down range, bullet drops a little less down range, but more importantly, it bucks the cross winds considerably better. Where I hunt, we experience a lot of cross winds coming up the canyons for those early morning hunts. My 6.5 PRC can stay on course so much better than my 270 Win. I don’t really need to adjust much for the cross winds with the 6.5 PRC.
@ajdube9967
6 ай бұрын
Everyone wants to say the 270 is more gooder. But the 6.5 has a higher BC in the same weight class and has much better numbers especially past 500.
It has been on KZread. It is going to be the caliber in my first custom rifle. Great down range ballistics. Not too much but just right.
Just bought a 7mm PRC, already love it, recoil isn't bad, about the same as a 300 win mag. Would love a 300 PRC down the road.
The may penetrate similarly in ballistic gel, but when you factor in bone and such there is a big difference in penetration
@groundcontrol5365
Жыл бұрын
In favor of what? Does the 300 prc penetrate better?
@cumgoat
Жыл бұрын
@@groundcontrol5365 absolutely, bigger round are far more likely to keep going through bone.
love this channel. Thanks!
@backfire
Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy it!
I would like to see a comparison of the different calibers from a 20" barrel. Browning just released their suppressor ready X-bolt in a 20" that you can get in a 6.8 Western, but I'm not that impressed with the X-bolt. I would like to see a comparison of a few different calibers like 7 Saum, 6.5 prc, and 7 prc, and 6.8 western out of a 20" barrel with a suppressor to see if it's worth getting a different rifle with a custom barrel made.
AWESOME. Thanks
Super interesting thanks
Having taken down game with ELD-X bullets from 6.5, 7 and 300 all in PRC there is one glaring difference I have observed. The 220 grain ELD-X seems to hold together a lot better than any of the smaller ELDX (noticeable on your water jug test).. likely due to the diameter. Of all 3 rifles if ELD-X was my only option I would have to take the 300 PRC just for this reason.
I have the exact Fierce carbon rival you have but in 7 Rem mag 24 inch barrel, with the same vortex razor 3-15×50 LHT. I use American Rifle Co. rings.
Great content. Thank you
Love the 7prc, wish Hornady brought out a nice high BC bonded bullet. I like how the ELD range flies, but up close at high velocity they’re too explosive at times. I use the 160gr accubond in my 7mm rem mag and it always leaves a perfect mushroom even up very close on deer and will perform well out to 500. A nice 175-180gr bonded Bullet from Hornady would make the 7mm Prc a machine
A Christensen… in a Backfire video???
PRC exist because Hornady wants to make more bank lol but they are great, ty for the test it's fun to watch !
Awesome video, thanks ! Any chance you compare 7mm PRC to 7mm Rem Mag side-by-side ?
Wow, what a great video!!! This is vey interesting about the difference in penetration. It reminds me of what I learned in an engineering class 40 years ago. Some I think they called half life. I think that explains why there isn’t much difference in the penetration. I love your summary and I agree 100%. You nailed this one. I couldn’t have said it better myself. I did see someone comment above about the 6.8 Western. I do think that the 6.8 Western and the 7 PRC have a good horse race going on. Both would be top caliber for an elk cartridge. Thanks for sharing.
@lovethehuntOutdoors
Жыл бұрын
I would agree about the 6.8 Western that little 277 turbo will do a fine Job on Elk.
Would love to see the same test with Nosler accubonds or partitions.
@54Rocketeer
Жыл бұрын
Would kill the ELD-X I bet!
Sir..... Youre shooting towards my house!!! Great video. 7PRC is tempting. Thanks
Just picked up a ruger American 7prc today, excited to retire my 270wsm
Hornady bullet "performance" at it's peak. Jacket separations are the norm in my very limited experience with them (limited because I only hunted with them once and won't ever again). In my opinion there ballistic tip bullets are target bullets no matter how they market them.
I currently use a 30-06 for Elk. Looking to upgrade to a custom light weight gun.. what would you choose? 7PRC? I’m struggling with this decision!
Would be interesting to see it done with the copper bullets like a barns
Hardly enough difference between the 6.5 and 7 to consider them a combo. I'd pick 6.5prc if those were the only choices; You can't get 7prc ammo virtually anywhere. My actual combo is the 6.5cm (lots of factory ammo) and 300PRC, which also has ammo available.
Hornady's ELD-X bullets prove across three calibers that they are not hunting bullets.
I must admit that I am a little jealous of your 7PRC! I have a 6.5PRC Springfield Armory Model 2020 Waypoint w/ Zeiss LRP S5 5-25X56 And a 300PRC Fierce Carbon Rival w/ Kahles K525i 5-25X56 I hope to have a 7PRC soon!
@lessforloans
Жыл бұрын
I mean you’re doing just fine on the rifle category lol
@kurtglo
Жыл бұрын
@@lessforloans I agree. The difference between wants and needs is the size of a mans wallet
Is your spreadsheet with ballistic info public? Of is there one? thx and keep up the content.
Didn’t appreciate the lengthy game promotion so this is the first and last video of yours I’m watching.
@backfire Okay so question then. Hunting in alaska where I live, I hunt now with a 300 win mag and love it. But was looking at potential going to a more modern cartridge. For taking moose and caribou and bear like I do would a 300PRC be better or a 7mm? In your opinion
Balls of steel to have a whole truck downrange
Good video man
I try 300 Norma imp w/o brake and just after two shots, I’m done. But I have an area 419 sidewinder on it and shoots ok.
I've watch the gel test personally the 6.8 gel looks like just as good as 7prc
“ today we’re testing the 3 most popular hunting cartridges ” oh and if ya haven’t heard about the 7prc , well that’s cause it’s not out yet … but it’s one of the most popular hunting cartridges 🤣
Very good presentation 👍
Interesting. Thanks,
Still nothing that impresses me enough to consider getting rid of my 7mm Rem Mag and 7mm-08. One for longer range and one for in the woods and I’ve pretty much got North America covered.
Have you done a video about the penetration of different bullet weights/velocities in the same caliber?
Great video
If I add a good muzzle brake (HAWG?) to a 7mm PRC, would that be comparable to the recoil of a 6.5 PRC without a brake?
I wish you would have discussed how they would work for long range target shooting. I know I’ll be able to find that info but it would have been nice if you had discussed their use for long range hunting and target shooting.
I am looking for bison and elk round. Should I go 7prc or 300prc? Is there one better to reload over the other.
I have been telling you for some time that hunting performance is about bullet construction. Leave the ELDX bullets alone if you truly want to ensure you kill your game as quickly as possible. Stop worshiping at the altar of Hornady factory ammo! Get yourself some Nosler Partitions and repeat those test's with bullets actual designed to hunt and kill efficiently as opposed to being biased just to slip through the air well and produce tight groups on paper! Just like it would be foolish to chose a Corvette to tow and haul heavy loads it is likewise a fools folly to use bullets that are poorly constructed for hunting to hunt with or to do penetration testing. I would never use Hornady Factory ammo to hunt with unless it was deer sized or smaller and if that is all I can find for that cartridge time to either reload or find another cartridge. I do not think I have ever seen you shoot a decent bullet for hunting out out of anything Hornady has designed in regards to their proprietary cartridges and you seem to handicap a lot of other cartridges with their bullets as well! Surely you have heard of Swift A Frames, Nosler Partitions, Barnes Solid Copper bullets and the like! Berger's are terrible hunting bullets too. Fusion is garbage too as far as serious hunting bullet is concerned. It is even more important when you are looking at cartridges with fairly high velocity.
Congrats on the first debut
So where does the 6.8 western fall? It's a lot like these cartridges ie short action, high twist rate, great bc (if you get the most modern+heavy bullets).
What have we learned ? How does the 300 compare to the 30 RUM
I worried one of those shards would deflect into your truck.
I've never been a fan of bullets that blow apart like this unless it's in a varmint cartridge. I've had the 143gr ELD-X stop in a does neck at 75ish yards on 3 different occasions now and I was shooting them in a 6.5 Creedmoor not a PRC so that bullet was moving significantly slower. I've seen gel test of these bullets compared to the ELD-M and the performance was nearly identical. But I guess that's just a comprise you have to accept if you need a bullet that will open up at the lower velocities down range...
If your were to use the 300 prc for white tail up to elk what bullet and grain would you recommend?
How do you like that MPR? It's the only Christensen Arms rifle I'm really interested in getting, but CA quality control scares me away from really wanting to pursue buying one.
I shoot the 6.5 pro and love the gun, i shoot distance and hunt with it. Love the gun
Very interesting. 300 PRC is too heavy. For me personally is more useful to see comparison of 6.5 PRC, 6.8 Western and 7 PRC. Also, instead of 7 PRC we may include 7 SAUM. It will be the great battle of short action calibers.
@chadperry4021
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As the owner of the 300 I’m glad it’s included, but I’m probably not going to hunt with it.
@jfess1911
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George Gardner (the G in G.A. Precision) apparently prefers the case design of the PRC's over the SAUM, WSM and 6.8 Western. They all use the same rim diameter. He says the PRC's feed better because the body of the case body is same diameter as the rim. The bodies of the other cartridges are larger diameter than the rim. He said it is more difficult to get the fatter-bodied cases to feed well in a repeater.
@exothermal.sprocket
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.280 A.I. continues to be a super capable cartridge.
@jfess1911
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FWIW, the 7 SAUM will fit in most true short actions, but the others will not. The 6.5 PRC and 6.8 Western require a 3" long action, and most short actions are closer to the 308's 2.81" length. The 7 PRC is 3.34" long, the same as the 30-06 or .280 AI.
Can you compare your 7 prc recoil to 6.8 Western?
So in 7mm PRC, what’s better: Proof Research MTR, or Fierce Rival?
Finally someone tests at range
I wish I had those calibers available here in Brazil,😢Best regards from Brazil 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷