Correction - Ryuho not Ryujo*

@bronson4574

Жыл бұрын

No, it's literally unwatchable now.

@AF_Editz07

Жыл бұрын

Can you do Battle of Leyte Gulf

@TycoonTitian01

Жыл бұрын

I would buy a goat gun, but they don’t have a P90

@Desertrat87

Жыл бұрын

@@AF_Editz07 I would love to see that as well. I'm imagining it might end up having to be a multi-part series because there were a few different groups of ships fighting each other in different places during the battle.

@NefariousKoel

Жыл бұрын

Leyte would be nice. An interesting engagement which has had almost nothing done on it would be the battle of Empress Augusta Bay. Another one of those confused night surface gun battles defending a beachhead, but a later one in which lessons had been learned.. to some extent.

One of my favorite moments from this battle was after the night battle. The USS Enterprise somehow only had one missing pilot who never landed on a carrier or was picked up that night. Their top pilot, William R. "KILLER" Kane (or just Killer Kane, which is such a badass name). Two days into the search, a destroyer speeds up along the Enterprise frantically flashing its signal light in a message that read "How much ice cream for Killer Kane?" (This was a customary reward for rescuing pilots). This then turned into an old-fashioned haggling match (partly because there is a rivalry between the different ship classes, even now). The destroyer crew argued that they deserved more because he was a unit commander and an ace so surely he is worth the 25 gallons they requested (it would be 30 gallons because its packaged in 10 gallon containers and in my heart i know they knew that and just wanted to swindle more from the Enterprise XD). So after holding Killer Kane for ransom they were rewarded their 25 gallons of ice cream, the Enterprise got her pilot, Kane learned he was worth exactly 25 gallons of ice cream to his unit (lol), and the day was saved.

@user-wv2bq5dw7c

Жыл бұрын

reminds me of the one pilot in the cactus air force at guadelcanal who was given back to the americans by locals in an exchange. His best quote was "Some men never know their worth, but mine is a 10 pound sack of rice"

@ivantheteribul

Жыл бұрын

How does that compare with Jeff DeBlanc being worth a 10-lb sack of rice?

@asteropax6469

Жыл бұрын

I remember the show Battle 360 mentioned this moment during their episode covering the Battle of the Philippine Sea. One of the other Grim Reaper pilots, Donald "Flash" Gordan, talked about it near the end of the episode. Wish they mentioned which destroyer made the rescue.

@ph89787

Жыл бұрын

@@asteropax6469 from what I’ve heard. The destroyer that found him was either USS Terry or USS Patterson.

@shironasama0445

Жыл бұрын

I love battle 360

The fact that it is a US victory despite Japan attacking first, US-bombers getting bored and attacking an airbase, and the japanese attacking second as well, is wild

@eodyn7

Жыл бұрын

Shows you how stacked the deck was against Japan.

@ihebyahyaoui5888

Жыл бұрын

It's because the Hellcat slaughtered the zero

@JacenHawk

Жыл бұрын

@@ihebyahyaoui5888 Which was primarily facilitated by the use of radar to direct said fighters int advantageous positions.

@Chr1sBrown

Жыл бұрын

The US was never going to lose this war in the long run. Even Japan understood that, they wanted to deal a couple decisive blows, then sue for peace.

@Whiteyy191

Жыл бұрын

Yeah kinda boring reading about these one sided battles

One minor detail that got missed in the previous episode, but comes up right at the beginning here. One of the big reasons that Ozawa did not know the results of the previous days attacks was most of his attack squadrons were launched to do shuttle bombing runs. What that means is they were launched at greater than half the planes range, with the instructions to attack the Americans, land on one of the island airfields, and fly back to the carriers in the morning. There were two reasons for this. The first it allowed Ozawa to keep his carriers back further outside of expected American Carrier range. And second and more importantly, Ozawa’s team had some serious doubts about the barely trained Japanese pilots ability to land back on their carriers after an intense day of combat. He didn’t know the results because most of the Japanese pilots weren’t expected to return until morning. Above and beyond his communications difficulties.

@LordKelvinX2086

Жыл бұрын

I believe shuttle bombing was more about the aircraft landing at the island airfields after hitting the American carriers, refueling and re-arming and then immediately sortieing again to attack the Americans again, landing at another island airfield and repeating. Turn one carrier launch into two or three strikes on the enemy. The problem here was that (1) the Japanese bombers were shot down before they could reach an island base, and (2) those island bases were also hit by the Americans. I remember reading about this on Wikipedia some years ago, but it's apparently been removed since. Perhaps it was a misconception from earlier historians that's been corrected by more recent facts?

@trentvlak

Жыл бұрын

Interesting, thank you. I do wonder about how Ozawa got that erroneous report of the land based planes attacking the Americans. Where did this piece of misinformation orginate?

@RipRLeeErmey

Жыл бұрын

​@@trentvlak Probably from a general that didn't want to be executed for telling the truth and saying they barely did anything against the Americans.

@mrgone658

Жыл бұрын

@@LordKelvinX2086 Wikipedia is not exactly a reliable source of information, historical or otherwise. It's a place to start, maybe, but deeper research would yield better results if what your after is historical truth.

@Caboosejaja

Жыл бұрын

@@mrgone658 🤡

"Turn on the lights" always gets me. They knew launching an attack too close to sundown was dangerous, and they gave those pilots the best chance to land safely even though it put the ships at risk.

@ph89787

Жыл бұрын

Keep in mind that the pilots only had basic night training. With Enterprise being the only carrier at that point with any (albeit small) experience with night ops.

@oldfrend

Жыл бұрын

that must've moved more than a few stout hearts that night aboard that fleet. the danger was real, but the cause was just and right so you do it because the men are worth saving.

@VosperCDN

Жыл бұрын

Just imagine those guys, flying back from intense combat hoping to find the ships in the dark, and then everything lights up, starshells, searchlights .. must have been such an incredible feeling to see that.

@revon0521

Жыл бұрын

It’s long out of print but , “Mission Beyond Darkness” is a great and gripping retelling of this aspect of this historical naval battle.

@carloscabrera8510

Жыл бұрын

@@oldfrend Even sending out destroyers the next day to search for men. Risk hundreds of sailors in search of a few dozen pilots. Buts that’s the way to do it.

"We have enough fuel to reach and bomb the carriers but not to get back." "Launch anyway." War is brutal.

@PancakeBoi

Жыл бұрын

War favors those who are daring

@rikk319

Жыл бұрын

Doing what must be done often takes sacrifice. As long as they rescued the pilots, they'd have more planes from mainland factories soon enough.

@Corristo89

Жыл бұрын

@@rikk319 That's exactly what set the Americans apart. They valued their pilots more and took care to rotate them home, so they could pass on their experience to new trainees. The Japanese kept theirs at their station until they were killed, which is exactly what happened. A plane can be replaced, an experienced pilot not so much. And Japan had almost no trained pilots left, courtesy of having to cut back training more and more due to aviation fuel becoming more and more scarce because of the relentless sinking of their transport ships heading back to Japan.

@tiagodecastro2929

Жыл бұрын

​@@rikk319 That's what I hear a lot about the philosophy of following orders vs thinking for oneself. I never served, so I'm speaking from a civilian/outsider perspective here, but what I understand about the importance of following orders is that the individual soldier needs to understand that his superior officers have access to information that isn't available to him, and so he therefore must trust them to do whatever he cannot. This is why a soldier is willing to sacrifice his life for the mission- he believes that it will contribute to a greater good. This is also why it's so bad for a military when the soldiers have no trust in their superior officers.

@rikk319

Жыл бұрын

@@tiagodecastro2929 My father, uncles, and grandfathers served in different branches in Vietnam, Korea, and World War 2. Trust, unity, brotherhood, and honor were stressed a lot in my family. A worthy officer deserves respect not because of his position, but because he puts his men first, and leads by example. Good men trust a good officer to guide them with integrity.

39 out of 450? So basically as a Japanese pilot in this battle you had an over 92% chance of being killed or at the very least losing your aircraft, with your chance of survival with your plane in tact being at only 8%

@Wolfeson28

Жыл бұрын

And for the Japanese pilots, losing their aircraft was much more likely to result in their death. Aside from the Japanese aircraft being more lightly built and more likely to catch fire, the USN did a MUCH better job of rescuing their downed aviators than the IJN did throughout the war. The massive combined air and surface rescue effort mentioned at the end of this battle was the norm for the USN, but was rarely seen on the IJN side.

@thelvadam2884

Жыл бұрын

that is why they switched over to Kamikaze attacks late in the war m since it doesn't require much training , and u save fuel and other logistics when its a one way trip. and when u are basically guaranteed to die against enemies , might aswell make sure that u go down and take as many with u as possible. the craziest thing about the kamikaze attacks is , when u really dig into it why they did it , it becomes less and less insane , and more and more a rational decision ...

@Noplayster13

Жыл бұрын

Given those numbers, it makes perfect logical sense for the IJN to start using kamikaze bombers instead. Get killed pointlessly in a hopeless battle or get killed doing something actually useful.

@dereenaldoambun9158

Жыл бұрын

@@thelvadam2884 Should have switching pilots instead of switching to kamikaze tactics. All of those experiences gone to waste instead passing them down to the rookies. I'm glad the US did the right thing (pilot rotation).

@Fronzel41

Жыл бұрын

@@dereenaldoambun9158 The Japanese were completely focused on winning as short a war as they could get away with because they knew they could not possibly win a long war with the United States. They had put plenty of study into the possibility of war with the US and always concluded that the industrial disparity would spell their doom if they couldn't get a peace deal quickly.

Everyone always focuses on Midway, but the late-war battles make Midway look like a tiny skirmish.

@NorthKoreaUncovered

Жыл бұрын

I agree. I don't necessarily consider Midway the turning point, yes it gave the Americans the initiative, but the war could still conceivably go either way. Philippine Sea however was game set match. The Pacific war was effectively decided at that point.

@asteropax6469

Жыл бұрын

​@@NorthKoreaUncovered I agree that Midway was not exactly a turning point. The IJN had more carriers nearing completion and more pilots finishing training at that point in the war. It was the bloody battle of attrition at Guadalcanal that was the turning point in the war as the Americans gained the initiative at that campaign's end. Every notable naval battle afterwards was typically an IJN response to an American landing, including battles such as Empress Augusta Bay, Leyte Gulf and the one from this video. I can't ignore the fact the IJN was also expected to assist with the offensives happening at New Guinia at the same time as both Midway and Guadalcanal. Lots of their carrier pilots were sent to that front as the casualties mounted. In fact, more than HALF of the Japanese Aviators at Pearl Harbor were killed by the start of 1943.

@recoil53

Жыл бұрын

@@NorthKoreaUncovered Between the pilot training programs (17K for the Navy alone) and ship building, the US naval strength by 44 would have been overwhelming, if carriers were not just tossed away unecessarily. That is, as long as the US navy didn't get crushing losses, just the accumulation of material differences made the outcome inevitable. Losing those 4 carriers and those air crews must have shortened the war though. Plus winning at Midway allowed the US to take the initiative in the Solomons, which ground away much of the remaining pilots the IJN started the war with. By the end of '43 the Japanese committed trainers from their aviator program, which basically made it game over. But they did that because of the chain of losses starting at Midway.

@NorthKoreaUncovered

Жыл бұрын

@@recoil53 I don't deny that Midway was a huge victory for the USA. I'm just saying that if Japan ever had one last chance to inflict the devastating defeat to the US Pacific Fleet it had hope to achieve early on in the war, it was at the Philippine Sea. Japan needed nothing short of a decisive victory if there was to be any chance of a negotiated settlement. After PS any window of opportunity had since slammed shut.

@recoil53

Жыл бұрын

@@NorthKoreaUncovered I'd say that at Leyte, the Japanese had a chance of a devastating victory if Kurita had been more aggressive. Halsey left the invasion force - the infantry open to attack by inexplicably taking his slower battleships with him to chase Ozawa and the remaining IJN carriers. The losses would have been huge. I also think there was no chance at a negotiated settlement. While DC may have been more concerned about the war in Europe, it was Japan with the sucker punch. That's why FDR had to be concerned about the public reaction to possible losses in Operation Torch, while the public would withstand the mess of Tarawa.

200+ planes launched in 11 minutes is an amazing feat of coordination.

@OverlordGrizzaka

Жыл бұрын

Plane jockeying done right. A far cry from ops circa Midway.

@ramal5708

Жыл бұрын

You should see the logistical system to replenish and refuel the Fast Carrier Task Force, in anchorages like Majuro or Ulithi they would establish well protected and established floating dry dock and anchorage with ice cream barge, mail ships etc. While at sea there's this so called Task Force 50 which is at sea logistical train with 20 replenishment ships like store ships, fuel tankers etc plus 2 dozens of escort carriers to replenish the fleet and light aircraft carrier of TF58/38 when they had losses to their air groups these CVEs would replenish the loss aircraft. Also this group is escorted or screened by 30 or so combined Destroyers and destroyers escort plus 6 CVEs, whose air groups flies and provides close air patrol and anti submarine flights for the convoy. This is why RN later learned and either copy or adapted the logistical system for their future British Pacific Fleet operating late 1944 to VJ Day where they would learn side by side UNderway REPlenishment technique and also gathering available tankers and supply ship to accommodate their battle fleet in the vast Pacific Theatre.

@Yora21

Жыл бұрын

That's a plane every 3 seconds.

@xWarLegendx

Жыл бұрын

@@ramal5708 escort carriers and escort destroyers never went along w/ fleet task forces Caz they were to slow and less maneuverable compared to fleet/light carriers and fleet destroyers and other BBS and cruisers

@ramal5708

Жыл бұрын

@@xWarLegendx did you read my whole comment? The CVEs, DEs etc were there as replenishment force or group, they were meant to steam alongside the slow tankers and replenishment ships, this particular group are given a position on the map by the Carrier Task Force to replenish them, replenishment doesn't require you to be at 25+ knots or so. They are separate group from Carrier Task Force, read about Nimitz secret weapon, the supply train fleet.

The sheer balls needed to take off into the Pacific knowing you’ll probably not find your way back is hard to fathom.

@willarterberry3392

Жыл бұрын

well, they're not called called the greatest generation for nothing

@onlythewise1

Жыл бұрын

@@willarterberry3392 lol or dumbest my family fought in ww2 lost a uncle almost my dad , dying is dumb

@jacobmareels2461

Жыл бұрын

@@onlythewise1 are you dumb? Lmao

@kenneth9874

Жыл бұрын

@@onlythewise1 being a coward and slave to a dictator is dumber, I guess that you're pretty dumb

@kingmuddy5898

Жыл бұрын

@@onlythewise1 that's got to be the dumbest take I've ever heard

The animation is smooth, this man's educational commentary is on point

@beepboop204

Жыл бұрын

🙂🙂🙂

@highdesertutah

Жыл бұрын

You’re godamn right.

@sebastiansellers5849

Жыл бұрын

The same background music for every video is getting abit samey though my only criticism.

@SpecterAGgaming

Жыл бұрын

I wonder what animation is that he used. I've seen other videos do this similarly. Kinda wonder if its After Effects or not.

I’ve never seen a bad video by these guys.

@ashtonfrancis112

Жыл бұрын

I doubt we ever will.

@macwt

Жыл бұрын

For real

@fauxbro1983

Жыл бұрын

Because it doesn't exist

@LibertysetsquareJack

Жыл бұрын

Yes. This channel is consistently excellent.

@Khan-1738

Жыл бұрын

I’ll be honest, the early videos are kind of rough only because the music is so loud, but everything else is on point

The audacity of Mitscher in turning on the lights on his carriers is one of the bravest move in Naval history, risking his carriers to be visible in the middle of night by IJN subs is rather ballsy move, but quite rewarding in saving the lives of his aviators, although some had to ditch they did in fact rescued those who did, unlike the IJN who didn't value their aviators much as the USN.

@ph89787

Жыл бұрын

Interesting story. Spruance and Mitscher did a similar thing 2 years earlier at Midway with Enterprise and Hornet (CV-8). They had sent a strike on the afternoon of 5 June 1942. Which attacked a destroyer ( i think it was Tanikaze). The destroyer escaped and shot down a Dauntless. To make matters worse, that strike was returning after dark. So Spruance ordered Enterprise and Hornet’s lights on. Resulting in all the surviving aircraft returning safely. Albeit Enterprise somehow getting 5 of Hornet’s SBDs.

@Nickname-ef9tv

6 ай бұрын

To be fair, potentially losing a considerable part of your aircrew in the currently hottest part of the pacific warzone (there was no guarantee Japan would concede the field) would have also been quite dangerous.

The fact that Zuikaku managed to contain its damage, unlike other IJN CVs at Midway, showed how important it was to have a veteran DCP crew. It was sth the IJN could achieve, but trajically not on more ships.

@breakafreak

Жыл бұрын

I wonder how much more different the Pacific Naval theater would have turned out if the Japanese had damage control training equal to the US

@garystu9878

Жыл бұрын

Also notably contrasts with Taiho’s more inexperienced damage control crew in this battle.

@spark5558

Жыл бұрын

Note the USN didn't just have better DCP crews but it trained everyone on board on basics of DCP

@CapricornEGO

Жыл бұрын

After all she was the "Fortunate Crane".

@jefclark

Жыл бұрын

@@garystu9878 that musta been a hell of an fucking explosion in that shaft

That nighttime landing must have been an amazing sight.

@natowaveenjoyer9862

Жыл бұрын

Massive balls to pull that off with 1944 technology.

@jpjpjp6328

Жыл бұрын

If you want a first person account, read "Dauntless Helldivers: A Dive Bomber Pilot's Epic Story of the Carrier Battles" by Harold L Buell. He flew a Helldiver in that battle.

@felisknight8599

Жыл бұрын

​@@natowaveenjoyer9862 Especially with the threat of a Japanese submarine attack, dunno how in the world those ships were afloat with all of those balls of steels weighing it down

@NotTheCIA1961

Жыл бұрын

Having a time machine to look back on moments like these would be absolutely stunning.

@mikes7446

Жыл бұрын

Sure was kiddo, I was their

This is the best battle history channel ✊🙏

@gropey_maurice471

Жыл бұрын

What in the fuck? This is like running into Taylor Swift at a Metallica concert.

@disbehaving9913

Жыл бұрын

wait wait wait. chocolate rain guy???? My childhood???

@RyanN777

Жыл бұрын

*I step away from the mic to voice my surprise*

@jermasus

Жыл бұрын

Chocolate rain History quickly crashing through your veins Chocolate rain

@Rybo-Senpai

Жыл бұрын

WELL! thats a name i haven't heard in a long time damn!

10:20 That animation of the planes colliding on the flight deck is the cherry on top. Such a superbly animated and produced video.

@stormlordeternal7663

Жыл бұрын

I know the situation was probably terrifying but seeing those little planes smash into eachother like a kid throwing their toys around makes it look funny.

Those who criticised Spruance were utterly wrong. It's that simple. His primary mission was protection of the invasion forces. He achieved that mission gloriously. At Leyte Gulf by contrast the glory-hunter Halsey failed in his primary mission to protect the invasion shipping. It was only thanks to the miracle of Taffy 3 that Halsey didn't have massive shipping and personnel losses to deal with.

@45sticky

Жыл бұрын

Raymond Spruance was always about the mission and never about glory hunting. In my opinion, Spruance was one of the best naval commanders in the Pacific. So much better than glory hunting Halsey, who made so many mistakes from the Philippines campaign to the typhoon cobra of 1944, and he always got a pass, remarkable. Halsey definitely had good connections in Washington and with Nimitz.

@davidvasquez08

Жыл бұрын

And not to mention Kurita basically back stabbing IJN as he either an American spy and/or being a IJA sympathizer, countering every move for his forces to win. And not to mention the USS Johnston

@davidvasquez08

Жыл бұрын

@@45sticky Halsey did manage to build an impressive reputation for the USN during the Pacific campaign, it was hard for anyone even Fleet Admiral King considering the backlash if they did pull Halsey out. But at the same time Halsey was erratic and going into 2 different typhoons(including Cobra) doesn’t help him

@legoeasycompany

Жыл бұрын

@@45sticky Definitely, he removed some competent men from command for even less than his mistakes.

@Th3Shyguy

Жыл бұрын

Yeah the prevailing view amongst the air admirals was that carriers couldn't possibly be end run. So much like Spruance got critised for Midway (where he made the correct decision) he also understood that carriers could indeed be end run. Which was proven in a battle that should never have happened the way it did off Samar.

"And Admiral Mitcher said: 'Let there be light' and there was light." Sorry. I couldn't resist.

@Eric-kn4yn

Жыл бұрын

Tibbets over Hiroshima.

@thegeneral4943

Жыл бұрын

@@Eric-kn4yn Has nothing to do with my comment.

@ph89787

Жыл бұрын

Interesting story. Spruance and Mitscher did a similar thing 2 years earlier at Midway with Enterprise and Hornet (CV-8). They had sent a strike on the afternoon of 5 June 1942. Which attacked a destroyer ( i think it was Tanikaze). The destroyer escaped and shot down a Dauntless. To make matters worse, that strike was returning after dark. So Spruance ordered Enterprise and Hornet’s lights on. Resulting in all the surviving aircraft returning safely. Albeit Enterprise somehow getting 5 of Hornet’s SBDs.

@thegeneral4943

Жыл бұрын

@@ph89787 I see. In hindsight, they needed that experience.

@thedyingmeme6

Ай бұрын

​@@ph89787 i mean,,,, a carriers' a carrier ??

I still tear up everytime I hear about fleet lighting up their carriers... ... in hope of showing their pilots the way home

@thomasriley5830

Жыл бұрын

There’s a great seen in the series Battle 360 where an Enterprise Fighter Pilot tears up just thinking about the ships lighting up. It was an incredibly dangerous thing to do but saved all the pilots lives.

@Yamato-tp2kf

Жыл бұрын

@@thomasriley5830 I remember one of the veterans called Don "flash" Gordon talking about this battle on Battle 360 Enterprise and coming in tears about his reaction when TF58 lighted all the lights of the ships... Like he said the "lights were telling me, home is that way" and he starts to cry... Man that hit me hard... Imagine yourself in the middle of the ocean without GPS at night, only with a compass and trying to find a group of ships that are moving... It's overwhelming...

@thomasriley5830

Жыл бұрын

@@Yamato-tp2kf yeah that’s the moment I was referencing! Imaging myself during any WW2 campaign is hard to do… these guys were different

@asteropax6469

Жыл бұрын

@@Yamato-tp2kf I remember that moment from Battle 360 Enterprise as well. Don "Flash" Gordon said he ended up landing on the Lexington, demonstrating how the flight groups got jumbled up in the night landing. I'm glad they included in this video at 10:52 and in the Battle 360 of how the Destroyers and search planes scoured the ocean for downed pilots. They mentioned in the Battle 360 show that the Enterprise was only missing one person from the night landings, "Killer" Kane, and he was later rescued by a destroyer. They had a light hearted moment, where the destroyer's crew was requesting ice cream in return for rescuing the Enterprise pilot.

@thedyingmeme6

Ай бұрын

​@asteropax6469 "requesting" more like "gimme ice cream or we keep the pilot !!!!"

“Turn on the lights” gives me goosebumps every time I hear this story. I love it!

For all the talk of the "Turkey Shoot", seems like USN subs were the MVPs in this battle.

@sjonnieplayfull5859

Жыл бұрын

Yes and no. During the next engagement, the carriers, as well as Ozawa, were used as bait. While they did have a full load of planes, they had recruit pilots and they even had a hard time drawing Halsey's attention... After this battle the remaining carriers were paper tigers, like tanks without the main gun

@treyhelms5282

10 ай бұрын

@@sjonnieplayfull5859 Fair

6:50 I think it was supposed to be IJN Ryuho not Ryujo, IJN Ryujo was sunk during the Battle of Eastern Solomons

@TheOperationsRoom

Жыл бұрын

You're right, my mistake

@gamedude412

Жыл бұрын

@@TheOperationsRoom mixing your ho's and Jo's lol

@VirgoShelter

Жыл бұрын

​@@TheOperationsRoom it a easy mistake to make, both are light carriers and have a single letter different in their names.

This battle finally sealed the fate of IJN. The katana is already broken. But their commanders said:”If your katana is broken, get a bamboo stick and keep fighting”.

@yosefvonhansom2921

Жыл бұрын

And that "bamboo stick" will be the Battle of Leyte Gulf

@phucvinh2883

Жыл бұрын

And 10-go operation

@yosefvonhansom2921

Жыл бұрын

@@phucvinh2883 Ten-go is more of "fighting with bare hands" at that point

@dereenaldoambun9158

10 ай бұрын

@@yosefvonhansom2921 Fighting hundreds of bee with only bare hands. 😨😨😨

@baconpwn

3 ай бұрын

IJN died at Guadalcanal. This is garbage time. Taihou, Shoukaku, and Zuikaku had no chance against the oncoming storm. Philippine Sea was a Hail Mary.

I love finding history channels like this one and watching them slowly improve and become solid, popular channels. The Operations Room never fails to deliver a fun and interesting story :)

What the battle of the Philippines taught me is that Japanese damage control got better throughout the war Edit: Also Between you and montemayor there is a lot of great animated WW2 carrier battles.

@NotTheCIA1961

Жыл бұрын

On one hand, it definitely got better On the other hand, the Zuiho basically sunk herself.

@Wolfeson28

Жыл бұрын

Japanese damage control got better in some cases, but not uniformly across the fleet. There was also the issue that, while the IJN learned some major lessons about damage control, they weren't always able to pass those on to the newly arriving sailors that they were rushing through abbreviated training. It's also important to note that Zuikaku, the star example of IJN damage control in this battle, was a veteran ship with two and a half years of combat under its belt by this point. Contrast that with the relative experience and damage control of Taiho.

@gamewizardks

Жыл бұрын

Japanese damage control got better throughout the war and American flight-deck operations also got better throughout the war. :-)

@MrNicoJac

Жыл бұрын

There was not really Japanese damage control - it wasn't _that_ standardized (partly due to ship designs). So, it was more of a ship-by-ship basis kinda thing. At least, if I remember Drachinifel's video about it correctly 🙃

@gamewizardks

Жыл бұрын

@@MrNicoJac That they put of fires on a carrier would be classified as 'damage control', though regardless of standardization or (lack of) training.

No bs, no jokes, no corny music, just straight to the point history.

I’ve visited the Lexington several times. It’s an amazing ship and extremely humbling to hear about her exploits knowing I’ve stood on that same deck and been inside.

@josephesposito9414

10 ай бұрын

agree. Living here in Corpus Christi TX, where the Lady Lex lives, it is humbling to stand on her flight deck and look at the tally of plane shot down and ships sunk by her airgroups. But is amazing is how much damage to Japanese plane by the guys manning the deck guns. Someone needs to a show on them.

@colormedubious4747

8 ай бұрын

Even though I've never NOT cracked my skull on something overhead when visiting the Lady Lex, I'll never pass up a chance to go aboard her and discover something new. 😀

one question that will never be answered is, if the Japanese aircrew of 1941 fought this battle instead of 1944, would it still be the turkey shoot it came to be known for? Fun fact: I live in the Philippines, on the province of Iloilo, next to the island of Guimaras. I once read that Ozawa, with his carriers and green aircrew, were practicing and training off the Guimaras Straits. They were spotted by guerillas, reported their presence to the American high command, who became aware of them before the battle.

This is simply the best military history channel available. Your channel puts the other "official" channel to shame, which has turned into a cesspool show of Ancient Aliens, Swamp People, and American Pickers.

@Yamato-tp2kf

Жыл бұрын

Yeah... the former "history channel" only made three good series about WW2, the Battle 360 Enterprise and Patton and the dogfight series... That's all what they did good... Nothing else...

@noneofyourbusiness9489

Жыл бұрын

@@Yamato-tp2kf And Greatest Tank Battles.

@JacenHawk

Жыл бұрын

Montemayor is also a very good channel, though they do not produce as much content.

@rook1196

Жыл бұрын

This was very good. Montemayor only posts once every few months but just dropped another banger proving he's still the king. www.youtube.com/@MontemayorChannel

@Yamato-tp2kf

Жыл бұрын

@@JacenHawk I know... I love his videos!!!

Another fun fact. All of TF 58's fleet carriers embarked 4-6 plane detachments of Night Fighters. Most of those were F6F-3E or 3N Hellcats with the exception of Enterprise carrying 4 F4U-2 Corsairs. During the "Mission beyond darkness" in addition to lighting the ships up. The fleet carriers launched these fighters to help shepherd the weary strike package back (or as close to) TF 58 as possible.

Top quality content mate! Sad to hear about KZread being a prick demonetising your vids

The bird's eye view animation allows me a deeper understanding than I get from a simple reading of the history 👍

The fact that this got demotized really shows the state of KZread.

My great grandfather was commander of air group 1 aboard the Yorktown during this battle. Amazing to see this in video

Your channel makes complex and chaotic battles understandable. I impatiently waited for part 2. Thank you

Awww yeah, love the lengths you go to for these animations - keep it up

@DaveSCameron

Жыл бұрын

They work wonderfully well don't they, one of the finest I've discovered and delighted for the opportunity to subscribe. 👍

The immense scale of ww2 is almost hard to comprehend, its crazy to even imagine a battle today that resulted in multiple carriers sunk and hundreds of planes shot down.

Leyte will need at least 4 parts: - Part I: Prelude and the Battle of the Sibuyan Sea (October 23-24) - American carrier planes sink Musashi, and Darter and Dace (two submarines) sink the 2 heavy cruisers Maya and Atago (Kurita's flagship, forcing him to go to Yamato) - Part II: Battle of Surigao Strait (October 24-25) - American battleships, cruisers and PT-boats under RAdm Jesse B. Oldendorf of 7th Fleet annihilate Admiral Nishimura's southern force, destroying all but 1 of his destroyers, both his battleships (killing him in the process), and his heavy cruiser. - Part III: Battle off Samar (October 25) - American 7th Fleet's Taffy 3 under RAdm Clifton "Ziggy" Sprague with 6 escort carriers, 3 destroyers, and 4 destroyer escorts faced the entire IJN center force under V.Adm. Takeo Kurita with 4 battleships including the monster Yamato, 6 heavy cruisers (four would be sunk), 2 light cruisers, and 11 destroyers; the Americans won with 2 DDs, 1 DE, and 2 CVEs sunk (one of the 2 CVEs was sunk via the first ever kamikaze: the St. Lo), and as I already stated the IJN lost 4 CA to a combination of scuttling due to damage and air attacks. Taffy 3 headed off the largest IJN fleet in the battle, a David vs. Goliath scenario. - Part IV: Battle of Cape Engano - The US 3rd fleet under Adm Halsey controversially went north just when the center force turned around to head back to Leyte. But they did find the carrier fleet, but... it was the northern decoy force under Adm. Ozawa, basically no threat. They did however sink the Zuikaku, the last Pearl Harbor carrier left after the disasters at Midway and Philippine Sea.

@oldfrend

Жыл бұрын

engano should be part 3 cuz it happened first, and also samar would be a glorious finale.

@MrNicoJac

Жыл бұрын

I learned more from this comment than the entire Wikipedia article. Thanks for being so succinct and clear, major chops!

@snapshotinhistory1367

Жыл бұрын

@@oldfrend Very true, but I was going off the fact that Engano lasted into the 26th, not much of the 26th but still, but I totally agree, that would be a glorious finale

@snapshotinhistory1367

Жыл бұрын

@@MrNicoJac Your welcome, I thought I accidently made it slightly unreadable due to length and some minor punctuation and grammar mistakes, I was thinking only I could understand what I wrote, you ever done that?

@thenumbah1birdman

10 ай бұрын

I think Engano should be included in Part 3-it happened at the same time as Samar and juggling the two in the same video would highlight the SNAFUS committed by both sides on October the 25th 1944 better.

One of your best animations so far with so. much going on! Keep up the great work!

Another great one...parts 1 and 2 and the Intel report were all great. Thanks for all the work you put into these videos.

This has been a very great week for Naval engagements. Eastern Solomons from Montemaryor, and Philippine Sea from Operations Room. Keep up the good work guys!

God bless those brave naval aviators and sailors who sacrificed so much to protect our country and preserve the freedoms we enjoy today! God bless America!

@Weshopwizard

Жыл бұрын

Taking off so late in the afternoon knowing that you will most likely have to ditch in the ocean. That is bravery.

@SnakeSalmon8izback

Жыл бұрын

Japan wanted to "steal our freedoms"? The monsters!

@br0k3nman

Жыл бұрын

Don’t forget Kings and Generals. Their pacific series has been excellent.

@Weshopwizard

Жыл бұрын

@@br0k3nman went and watched it. It is very good.

From the animations of Desert storm till now, the animation and commentary is still great as always.

this channel is one of the few that i actually click on when they post new videos

The Operations Room is what HIstory should be, direct yet entertaining and educational. Greato work, I love these breakdowns and animations.

Thank you very much for your phenomenal content! It was already great and each successive video seems to have additional improvements.

Dear KZread, GOAT Guns are not firearms. Your algorithm is dumb for thinking so. Do better next time. Sincerely, The Internet At Large

This is the best channel ever. I love waking up and seeing a new video dropped.

I think you guys should do the Battle off Samar. The Last stand of the tin can sailors is a really good book and this engagement would perfectly suit this channel's style

@oldfrend

Жыл бұрын

almost certainly next in line of production.

@sjonnieplayfull5859

Жыл бұрын

Any time I pick up that book time fast forwards a fee hours...

I just finished binging all the videos on your channel over the past few days and was sad there weren't any more. Thanks for delivering more! :D

Yassss, keep ‘em comin. Always look forward to your uploads!!!

Always enjoy this channel's content!

The animations seem to be getting quite a bit better. The gunfire from ships, foreground (higher altitude?) planes, and smoother movement, all look better! Keep up the good work

The animation is smooth, this man's educational commentary is on point. This is the best battle history channel .

Another masterpiece! You guys deliver gold

thanks for the great videos!

Love your vids. Please keep making them!! Sorry about the yellow circle of death!

This channel as a whole just keeps getting better and better 😁👍🏻

Unreal presentation. Best military history channel out there

thank you for the content

What a treat seeing this video!!!

The Night The Lights Came On - excellent job sir. I anxiously await your next posting!

I really enjoy this format thank you

I definitely think Spruance was right though, he was there to protect the landings in the Marianas and he did that brilliantly, look at what Haley does when we invade the Philippines, he chases the carriers and nearly gets our landings wiped out by a Japanese surface force off Samar

@DanielSmith-ld9rq

Жыл бұрын

Halsey -

@brentmiller6414

Жыл бұрын

While you are right that Halsey messed up there and no excuses for that, the US 8th fleet, the same fleet who blew the southern force out of the water would've likely had the time to intercept the centre force even if taffy 3 would've been annihilated

Awesome content as always. My absolute favorite history channel. I'd love to see a series or even single video on the Korean War - It has a lot of relevance today! These battles in WWII against the Japanese set the stage for our current geopolitical climate in Asia :)

I enjoyed these two videos. Great work.

Amazing video as always!

HELLDIVER BOMBERS?!?!? "An eagle never misses!" "Liberty Dispensed!" "Got 'em!"

Although Adm. Spruance was criticized by some, he was supported by Adms Nimitz and King because he saw his mission as support of the Marianas invasion and he was proved correct. Even Adm. Mitscher later acknowledged it.

Operations Room being the absolute GOAT in KZread here with these narrative visuals!

Naval battle are my favorite. The aircraft carriers are the icing on the cake! Absolutely beautiful video, please, PLEASE do more naval and naval aviation battles. I love these ones

Thanks!

@rockoorbe2002

Жыл бұрын

If KZread wants to demonetize you, that's fine. We got your backs.

Eagerly waiting for the battles of Surigao Strait, Sibuyan Sea and the legendary Battle off Samar!

@markstott6689

Жыл бұрын

Samar deserves an episode of its own.

Amazingly put together!

Holy heck I'm early...time to sit back and enjoy a great vid!

Imagine you were one of those pilots coming back to the carriers in pitch black. You’re tired from the battle, anxious and worried at your lack of fuel and whether you could land in pitch black. And then suddenly, the entire fleet lights up like a Christmas tree. All done to make sure you land safely even with the present danger of possible Japanese submarines. I would’ve remembered that moment for life.

Shame that such a talented content creator gets demonitized for such a silly reason. Great vid OR❤

Always clarifying. Thank you.

Thank you, another great video! 🙏🙏

Yes, Leyte next time please! Leyte justifies at least 2-3 episodes. 🇺🇸🇯🇵

@PancakeBoi

Жыл бұрын

the battle off samar needs its own 20 minute episode, by far the most iconic naval battle in history

@sethstopcallingmeryandickh9067

Жыл бұрын

​@@PancakeBoi USS Johnson as Leroy Jenkins

@malcolmw513

Жыл бұрын

@@PancakeBoi Spruance’s reputation and legacy recovered pretty thoroughly after Samar showed what “could have been.”

Great narration! Thanks for another good tale of heroism and sacrifice on both sides. I don’t know how the IJN pilots found the courage to face that aerial mob. They paid dearly for their bravery.

Great video as always!!!!! Love them

Great story telling. Thank you for your work!

>Resulting in one of the largest naval battles in history Leyte Gulf episode confirmed?

Rushed to click on this as soon as it notified me.

I'm a veteran and historian and I LOVE your videos. I'm always excited when you release one 🙂

Great videos as usual sir! Love the ship animations!

Another great series. Can't wait for the Battle of Leyte Gulf episodes

@usmc4eternitey

Жыл бұрын

That’s the naval battle that he was saying happened after the great marianas turkey shoot right? Like the next battle ?

@nogisonoko5409

Жыл бұрын

@@usmc4eternitey Battle off Philippines sea which is this video are where the "great marianas turkey shoot occured". Battle of Leyte Gulf is the next major battle after this video battle as US invasion of Phillipines are underway.

When you lose more planes during landing operations than actual combat, you know there is a massive air dominance.

LOVE these animations and explanations.. just amazing how much luck has to do with victory

Love this channel. Great stuff OR. Well done.

My uncle Lt (jg) Robert Sterling was one of the pilots that didn't make it. According to the year book from the USS Bunker Hill CV-17 he did score a hit on Japanese carrier.

9:40 must’ve been a beautiful sight seeing all those ships suddenly light up from the air.

@robertoroberto9798

Жыл бұрын

Reminds me when the Île de France lit up its lights to rescue the Andrea Doria.

***THIS CHANNEL SHOULD HAVE AT LEAST ONE MILLION SUBSCRIBERS! Thanks for this excellent episode.

An example of the truth of a Ludendorff remark. "Strategic brilliance without tactical superiority is useless." So long as the Japanese air could not compete with the Hellcats they had zero chance.

Wasp's group taking out those oilers was nearly as important as taking out the carriers. A carrier isn't much use without fuel.

Great video! I love the photo of the ships in line at the end.

6 minutes after going live I am watching (only just got in) always good stuff well presented.

will you guys do the battle of leyte gulf anytime ? i heard it was the largest naval battle in history