Battle Of The Bait Molds!! Cast Aluminum vs Stone vs CNC Aluminum

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  • @WorldsWorstFishing
    @WorldsWorstFishing3 жыл бұрын

    Stay tuned for the end where we BURN our plastic and one the molds goes bye bye!

  • @tumbleweedoutdoors1776

    @tumbleweedoutdoors1776

    3 жыл бұрын

    I wish I could afford plastisol :( I can’t afford it so I do remelts only so I am extremely limited on my color choices

  • @d.moutdoors4377

    @d.moutdoors4377

    3 жыл бұрын

    Oh yeah

  • @marctheriault

    @marctheriault

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@tumbleweedoutdoors1776, $35-40 bucks for a bottle and shipping can make a lot of baits.

  • @marctheriault

    @marctheriault

    3 жыл бұрын

    A flat screwdriver to help twist is probably the purpose of the slot with the stone mold.

  • @tumbleweedoutdoors1776

    @tumbleweedoutdoors1776

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@marctheriault I know I just barely have any money and I’m in the process of making a swim bait mold with a fellow bait maker so I’m saving my money to get the final product turned into an aluminum mold

  • @4kBrady18
    @4kBrady183 жыл бұрын

    My stone works perfectly fine. You simply just didn’t prep them correctly. I’m sorry but I can’t afford a $150 mold so I have to use my $20 ones

  • @Thegolfkid1

    @Thegolfkid1

    7 күн бұрын

    Yes finally someone who is realistic

  • @kbody_slade
    @kbody_slade3 жыл бұрын

    I started making baits today and I owe all the fun to you, I only burnt myself twice

  • @Grahamwilde20
    @Grahamwilde203 жыл бұрын

    You Won’t believe what happen my teacher said that I can do a presentation of making baits for entrepreneurship unit because I sell them and she wanted me to show the classes how I made money off a hobby

  • @WorldsWorstFishing

    @WorldsWorstFishing

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hope it went well

  • @jaakkoteppo8376
    @jaakkoteppo83763 жыл бұрын

    I have cast quite a lot of baits with those baitmold.com 'stone' molds. They have to be brushed with worm oil every second or third cast, then there will no sticking issues. The first casting with a brand new mold is always a little tricky even if properly oiled. The biggest number of castings per mold I've done is roughly 500 and there has not been any visible signs of the mold being disintegrated but I don't suppose they will last forever. They are an inexpensive choice when making baits for yourself, but not that great for any bigger production obviously. Anyway, I'm more than satisfied with the molds, comparing the price vs. the result and also the fact that they have molds for many of the catchiest baits. If I could get the exact same molds in cnc-milled aluminum, I would not hesitate buying them.

  • @ruffnut743

    @ruffnut743

    3 жыл бұрын

    i use them stone molds as well i use silicone spray it works very well

  • @artfanatic405
    @artfanatic4053 жыл бұрын

    This video was so helpful. Thank you. I have been wondering the difference between each of these for so long

  • @WorldsWorstFishing
    @WorldsWorstFishing3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching...what are your favorite type of molds??

  • @jacobcarter9242

    @jacobcarter9242

    3 жыл бұрын

    I don’t do any my self but I think the open pour look the best

  • @WorldsWorstFishing

    @WorldsWorstFishing

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jacobcarter9242 yeah hand pour is king 👑

  • @jacobcarter9242

    @jacobcarter9242

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@WorldsWorstFishing yeah and I’m not 100% sure but it looks like you can do a lot more designs with a open pour

  • @dirtyfisherman9188

    @dirtyfisherman9188

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hey man how can I get intouch for some baits?

  • @01Brever

    @01Brever

    3 жыл бұрын

    Angling AI can’t be beat IMO. Glad you did this video because I was wondering how the stone molds work. Now I know they’re trash! Lol

  • @greatwhitesfishingadventur2273
    @greatwhitesfishingadventur22733 жыл бұрын

    The old additive : You get what You Pay for !!! CNC Aluminium, will always be the BEST !!! I would suggest you save the hard earned, and start off with one CNC Mould ...

  • @WorldsWorstFishing

    @WorldsWorstFishing

    3 жыл бұрын

    Agree all the way

  • @macprince5667

    @macprince5667

    3 жыл бұрын

    I believe the word you want is adage

  • @dennishodson990
    @dennishodson9903 жыл бұрын

    In both of your stone mold pours, I noticed trash in the tail that didn't pour correctly. Look back in your video. I have made several Alumilite Vac 50 molds of baits that I should not name and had to work on to get a functional bait. I do this because I choose to spend $$ on other toys. I have two stone molds and three more on the way. I really don't have a problem with them. The Bass and Crappie sure don't. Of course, I don't sell these and have to have the $$$ look. Still love you're channel and get notifications of every one!

  • @ZacksRealAdventures
    @ZacksRealAdventuresАй бұрын

    Whoa, another drummer who loves fishing and making baits. Cool stuff man.

  • @larrycorley2470
    @larrycorley24703 жыл бұрын

    Good video! It was great to see the finish difference between the molds. I have been using the “stone” molds for 2 years I do have to oil often and over oiling can create problems with swim bait tails and creature bait flaps but over all I have figured out a technic to get pretty good baits ever time. All that being said I don’t sell my baits I got into it to make what I want for tournament fishing. But after seeing the finish difference I might buy one of the CNC molds just to compare how much it affects the color tones I make might be a big difference and a game changer ! Again great video!!!👍

  • @WorldsWorstFishing

    @WorldsWorstFishing

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching 👍

  • @gpharned
    @gpharned3 жыл бұрын

    THANK YOU CHRIS! You have taught me so well and saved me $$! I first started with pouring Do-it lead molds, excellent products. So naturally went with Do-it soft plastic molds. They worked OK. Lots of denting and learning curves. Do-it injector is really a problem for newbies. Dangerous by blowing the tip off (no pins) . I honestly would never recommend that injector. I purchased a AI mold thanks to you and what a difference, night and day. Now I am building my collection of quality molds. I am no Pro but I recommend waiting until you can afford a quality CNC mold from a reputable maker. I borrowed a stone mold from a friend and with proper oiling (I actually use WD-40 ) it pours very well, especially for less than a $20 price, but it does have limitations such as over heating and needing oiled every few uses.

  • @joeschlabotnik2401
    @joeschlabotnik24015 күн бұрын

    I started making my own lures recently. I did not want to invest a lot of money so I went with stone molds first. Have to say they work great! Just have to keep them oiled up. I use oil butter spray and also let the molds cool down if I am making a lot of lures as they tend to stick for some reason. I have also made my own molds and they came out okay. Not perfect but I am catching bass on them all which is really cool

  • @kayakingwithkevin303
    @kayakingwithkevin3033 жыл бұрын

    I sprayed my do it essential molds with high temp engine paint. Huge improvement over how they finish baits.

  • @tnoutdoors3820

    @tnoutdoors3820

    3 жыл бұрын

    I was wondering if the paint was still holding a good finish?

  • @Bhurt2

    @Bhurt2

    2 жыл бұрын

    Me too, I’m wondering myself

  • @Samuel-kz3vo

    @Samuel-kz3vo

    2 жыл бұрын

    Is the paint staying

  • @kayakingwithkevin303

    @kayakingwithkevin303

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes. Paint has held up good. I don't make large quantities. I'd day I've made over 500 baits with mold and paint is still good. Just clean mold good before painting and use a high temp gloss paint.

  • @rdo6566
    @rdo65663 жыл бұрын

    I think they all have there uses. If you are making and selling then CNC is likely worth the investment. If you are doing it for yourself to fish with and maybe give a few away then CNC is not going to catch you any more fish than a properly poured bait from a cast or stone mold. There has been tons of fish caught on baits from Do-It wast molds. We are making baits to catch to a fish not curing cancer. I think sometime we lose sight of that aspect when dumping $200 (off the shelf) to $600 (custom) on CNC molds when you can get custom stone made for normally less than $100 from companies like Bug Molds on eBay.

  • @hashimotoconcepts
    @hashimotoconcepts3 жыл бұрын

    Great information, especially for someone who is new to soft plastics. I can see how they may think that starting off with the cost effective mold would be the best option however the cost is made up in replacements from damaged molds. hope this saves someone money in the long run.

  • @stillkickingfishing
    @stillkickingfishing3 жыл бұрын

    As an entry level, soon to be soft plastic lure maker, I feel so prepared thanks to you. I've watched about 70% of your videos and am still going.

  • @WorldsWorstFishing

    @WorldsWorstFishing

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you sir, please share the channel with all your friends

  • @stillkickingfishing

    @stillkickingfishing

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@WorldsWorstFishing I think my mother-in-law is the only person left and she's next. :D

  • @mylesgalle7025
    @mylesgalle70253 жыл бұрын

    With the stone molds I have noticed 3 things. 1it is a lot easer to open once you use it more. 2 it opens easer when it is a single Bait in the mold not 2 like that one. 3 I haven’t notices the molds melt or get damaged when you use it a lot, I have used the same mold of at least 250 runs and is not damaged. I think that it is ok to use the baits. I have never oiled the mold and it works good. It is a good material for entry level bait makers and they are cheep compared to the CNC miles aluminum. Good video though

  • @WorldsWorstFishing

    @WorldsWorstFishing

    3 жыл бұрын

    Interesting... everyone else I have spoken to in my bait making career has had trouble with stone..to the point they abandoned them.

  • @MrCami2

    @MrCami2

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@WorldsWorstFishing are you talking about home made Hobbysts or Producer?

  • @WorldsWorstFishing

    @WorldsWorstFishing

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MrCami2 nobody I know running real production uses stone, they hold heat too long to efficient and require lubrication often, every experienced home bait maker I know has moved on from stone molds to better things.

  • @albow4oops5
    @albow4oops53 жыл бұрын

    Just starting out and I use stone.. because it's cheap. I've shot three styles of bait and I get decent results. Mine are off of Amazon, they have toggle pins and seal fine. Two have stone pins, one has steel. While I agree that cnc must be better, I have had no issues with mine. I preheat mine on a heating pad and have fewer issues with differential cooling dents. Oil and plastic durometer have a big effect on the shine of the end bait. I will be getting cnc molds, but for now the stone molds work really well. I shoot stick baits, a punch style craw and a very complex creature bait with a core shot pin. The only release problem I have is on the rear flappers of the complex creature, but if I oil every third injection it's fine. None of this is to disagree with you, you clearly have more experience and knowledge than I do. Your channel is why I inject/ pour baits, marling taught me to make wooden baits. You both are great resources. Thank you

  • @WorldsWorstFishing

    @WorldsWorstFishing

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad you found a way to have success! Thanks for watching my channel

  • @MrCami2

    @MrCami2

    3 жыл бұрын

    Your description about stone molds is the most realistic one that I found till now

  • @iwantosavemoney
    @iwantosavemoney7 ай бұрын

    I bought my first sinker molds a wail back for a few 100 dollars and some jig molds and they where do it molds and what I do is pour in one pour enough to pay for the mold it’s self but I guess with plastic molds that probably not possible or productive because you don’t want a bunch of the same stuff like you would with weights and jig heads I love having bulk items that actually save me money. But I think am getting more into the hobby and trading saving money for having the versatile to change colors and the add actives and truly make a different bait in the same mold is awesome.

  • @johncox5681
    @johncox56813 жыл бұрын

    Hey Teach. I have a stone mold from Best_nj on amazon. It is a 1 cavity mold that pours from the top. It is a 4" craw mold and it pours perfectly. It also does a great laminate. I don't use worm oil though, it is too expensive. I just use the cheap spray cooking oil. It also makes the bait shine. But mostly I use cnc aluminum molds because you are absolutely right, They are the best. Thanks for the video, it was good to see the differences for people just starting out.

  • @fabulous7567
    @fabulous75673 жыл бұрын

    Really like the comparison of different materials for mould making. CNC looks to be the clear winner all around even though the cost is at a premium.

  • @WorldsWorstFishing

    @WorldsWorstFishing

    3 жыл бұрын

    You always get what you pay for in life

  • @marctheriault
    @marctheriault3 жыл бұрын

    First remark, not even 30 seconds in 🤣 I love seeing you on the Vater pad. I remember Ronnie, Alan and their dad from years ago when I grew up in MA and had dealings with the company in jobs later on. Was sad to hear of Ronnie’s passing a little while ago, but I smile for him every time I see your “endorsement”. 🥰

  • @WorldsWorstFishing

    @WorldsWorstFishing

    3 жыл бұрын

    Awesome!!

  • @stacyhunter7171
    @stacyhunter71713 жыл бұрын

    My 14yr old started making his own baits about a year and a half ago and has 4 or 5 of the stone molds. The first few pours were sticky but then it went away. He's never used any oil. They are only single and double cavity molds and he does use plastisol.

  • @jeffflinton7540
    @jeffflinton75403 жыл бұрын

    that Bass tackle ribbon tail is one of my favorite molds to shoot it makes an armature hack like me look like i kinda know what im doing !!

  • @WorldsWorstFishing

    @WorldsWorstFishing

    3 жыл бұрын

    It comes out perfect every single time

  • @danieleatherly1135
    @danieleatherly11353 жыл бұрын

    Chris in the pst I have used do it molds they are ok but your right the finish is full but I never used stone molds was thinking about trying them but thanks to you I will not be wasting my money on them!!!! Thank you Chris!!!!

  • @WorldsWorstFishing

    @WorldsWorstFishing

    3 жыл бұрын

    👍👍

  • @markchase9299
    @markchase92993 жыл бұрын

    I have a few of those stone molds. I use mold release spray you can get at any hardware store. Works 100% better than the oil. They come out of the mold very easy. I will not buy anymore of those because the aluminum ones are alot easier for sure. Thanks for the videos Chris.

  • @WorldsWorstFishing

    @WorldsWorstFishing

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah I've heard oil works well and cooking spray..I def didn't have much luck with that swimbait lol

  • @markchase9299

    @markchase9299

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@WorldsWorstFishing i guess thats how we learn lol. Still was fun to watch.

  • @WorldsWorstFishing

    @WorldsWorstFishing

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@markchase9299 I will modify my casted aluminum molds for better performance, but I most likely will not ever try a stone mold again.

  • @markchase9299

    @markchase9299

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@WorldsWorstFishing i don't use mine anymore either. I have one of the sand cast too. Was my first one to get my feet wet. Can't wait to see what you do with it.

  • @kevinconrad7222
    @kevinconrad72223 жыл бұрын

    I Was just getting ready to buy my first mold, Thank you for this vid and saving me the money and most importantly the frustration of going with the stone that I was considering. I guess Like almost all things in life ya get what ya pay for. I’d rather save up and buy right and buy once. Instead of getting trash that falls apart. Merica

  • @WorldsWorstFishing

    @WorldsWorstFishing

    3 жыл бұрын

    U always get what ya pay for!

  • @backyardhunter1036
    @backyardhunter10363 жыл бұрын

    Been waiting all day for this video to drop

  • @WorldsWorstFishing

    @WorldsWorstFishing

    3 жыл бұрын

    Haha appreciate it

  • @bigkat650
    @bigkat6503 жыл бұрын

    Yes! Thank you for this! I'll test my do-it molds and go from there... But I'm gonna avoid stone, that's for sure!

  • @WorldsWorstFishing

    @WorldsWorstFishing

    3 жыл бұрын

    Definitely didn't have much success with stone

  • @spacecat86
    @spacecat863 жыл бұрын

    ive noticed my stone molds start to degrade just a tiny bit after a year of moderate use. not all of them though, some have started to kind of erode around the edges but the cavities are still good. I didn't have as much trouble removing them as you did but I oiled them at the beginning however I don't re-oil them all that much....im using small baits though and they probably don't stick as badly. I think they are great for the price but nothing beats a fancy aluminum mold....anyone reading this feel free to buy me some :)

  • @Loochy808
    @Loochy8083 жыл бұрын

    The denting on the doit molds can be solved by oiling. Rippers (what Chris is shooting here) and senkos are the worst offenders. shoot them slow, around 315* and oil them. I like vegetable oil spray to oil the molds (I just use cheapo walmart great value spray).

  • @zacharykeller7067
    @zacharykeller70673 жыл бұрын

    I have a bunch of the stone molds and I have never oiled them and always get great results i think they are worth the money just my opinion

  • @WorldsWorstFishing

    @WorldsWorstFishing

    3 жыл бұрын

    You are definitely the exception, glad they are working well for you.

  • @MrCami2

    @MrCami2

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@WorldsWorstFishing or perhaps you need a little bit training to use stone molds, for instance using a brush to oil them and not leaving oil inside tail cavity. To open them a flat screw driver gently twisted in the slot is the right procedure

  • @pistolpetepeterson
    @pistolpetepeterson3 жыл бұрын

    Here is a soft plastic question for you. if you were to melt down and re mold z-man elaztec baits. Would they keep their super stretchy elastic quality and super buoyancy? What about other non plastisol baits? do they keep their qualities after being melted and remolded?

  • @fbisurveillancevan1635
    @fbisurveillancevan16353 жыл бұрын

    I have the 3.5 inch ripper cast 3 cavity. You can tell it was casted when you look at the finish on the baits, ill say that.

  • @Rodbuilder109
    @Rodbuilder1092 жыл бұрын

    I was thinking of getting into making some baits and this video helped me a lot. Thank you for all of your content on this topic. Love to see all the ways to get the baits colors.

  • @heatherlee7616
    @heatherlee76164 ай бұрын

    You should try to stick a flat head screw driver in the little notch on the stone mold to pry it open

  • @chucktimm9803
    @chucktimm98035 ай бұрын

    high temp engine paint i used gloss black in them both and pour very nice in my case

  • @davewesternky
    @davewesternky3 жыл бұрын

    Been using the stone molds for years and all I do is keep a makeup brush in a jar of Vaseline and every other shot just brush a light coat and no problems.

  • @WorldsWorstFishing

    @WorldsWorstFishing

    3 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting..glad they are working for ya 🙌

  • @customrodsandbaits8620
    @customrodsandbaits86203 жыл бұрын

    Good info! It’s only Ai CNC molds for me! They are the best out there 👍

  • @WorldsWorstFishing

    @WorldsWorstFishing

    3 жыл бұрын

    Can't argue that

  • @DeeDee-vu5mi

    @DeeDee-vu5mi

    3 жыл бұрын

    Likewise on the AI Molds. I have a 4" swimbait and the eyball mold....awesome. I do pour lead for some baits, therefore Do It Molds are used. I also have the Do IT 3" ripper so if your looking for a smoother finish bait, smoking the mold surfaces will help a lot.

  • @glennluteraan4434
    @glennluteraan44343 жыл бұрын

    Hey Chis, as lot of people cannot afford the CNC molds, and may want to get multiple cast "Do It" molds for the price of one CNC mold, I think you'd be doing a great service to both the budget and start-up bait makers by showing various methods to tune/tweak the cast molds, to improve the quality of the baits and make the most out of what may already be affordable or owned. The high temp paint sounded like a good trick. Polishing with a Dremel type tool would be another. Get the "B" rating up to a "B+ or A-". You could use that multiple swimbait mold (granted, a worm or stick bait mold would be easier) and to a different method in each cavity and show the results of each. I think that would be something a lot of people would appreciate. Thanks for this vid. It was valuable information.

  • @WorldsWorstFishing

    @WorldsWorstFishing

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes I will definitely modify my cast aluminum mold and do a compare and contrast video

  • @darrenhall7990
    @darrenhall79903 жыл бұрын

    On those type of stone molds...Elmer's concrete bond works real well.

  • @lakingz_80
    @lakingz_803 жыл бұрын

    Mr Jones.. Got a question...Total nube here to making baits .. Molds...Are stone molds one in the same with resin molds? Can't find anything that tells me different..

  • @slivers4007
    @slivers40073 жыл бұрын

    Yes you get what you pay for but......Some just can't afford $200.00-$300.00 molds. Most have to "buy" their molds? Stone molds can and do work for what they were intended for and for many will work fine (a quick spray of silicon works great and a wide blade screwdriver vs a butter knife to open). Do-It cast aluminum molds work great for what they were intended for (a quick spray of high temp paint, clean none mold surfaces voila gloss baits).. By the way take a CNC molded and a Do-It sand cast molded bait put them in water and see what the difference is, the fish nor most will ever notice the difference? If one follow enough forums EVERY company seems to have problems with lumps, bumps, etc.(operator error)? And how about you take one of those fancy $250.00 ** molds out back and smack it with a hammer a few times and see how well it holds up? As far as instructions.....hmmmm never got any with any of my expensive "name" brand molds. Other than that great video.

  • @DrillerAA
    @DrillerAA3 жыл бұрын

    Is it possible to take a dremmel tool with their polishing pads and apply rubbing compound, then polishing compound and actually get a much smoother finish from the Do-it molds. Also, if you limited your purchase of stone molds to simple worm patterns would they be more successful? Just asking.

  • @marctheriault
    @marctheriault3 жыл бұрын

    Just sitting down to watch this, didn’t realize you were looking for something to do ta-day! 😂 Never mind... just checked your weather... I wouldn’t have planned a fishing trip either. 😎

  • @WorldsWorstFishing

    @WorldsWorstFishing

    3 жыл бұрын

    Weather wasn't the best today

  • @richardorta8960
    @richardorta89603 ай бұрын

    how would mixing styrafoam, packing peanuts, that foam they use for fake flowers work in the plastic?

  • @garyboyd9704
    @garyboyd97043 жыл бұрын

    I use Do-It cast molds because I didn't want to buy a $150 mold if it's not something I was going to enjoy doing. From my very limited experience, the worms really aren't a noticeable difference from the cnc molded worms, but where you really notice the difference is in the swim baits and creature baits...

  • @unicornbaits1622
    @unicornbaits16223 жыл бұрын

    Definitely love not having to learn about the corian type molds subparness on a griddle by trial myself. Very good thing to know. Definitely cnc ones for me. Great vid.

  • @FreedomFishing
    @FreedomFishing Жыл бұрын

    Have you had any stone molds from the baitmolds website that poured correctly? I just bought 2 from them (baits without a lot of detail) and need to check my drawers after seeing this video. 😯

  • @shaunmoeller3288
    @shaunmoeller32883 жыл бұрын

    I have a stone mold I use cooking spray on it and it works great

  • @WorldsWorstFishing

    @WorldsWorstFishing

    3 жыл бұрын

    I would imagine with a more basic shape I would have had much better luck, but the tails on these are a very tricky design to begin with.. they would undoubtedly have issues even in CNC from time to time.

  • @MrCami2

    @MrCami2

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@WorldsWorstFishing try again ... with more modesty

  • @shaunmoeller3288

    @shaunmoeller3288

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@WorldsWorstFishing do you have a Facebook page I would like to send a pic of a bait I made

  • @mikew7108
    @mikew71083 жыл бұрын

    i started using the stone molds and they do stick unless you use worm oil on them. i used the knife to pry on mine when they stuck and snapped the side of the mold off. they are a good starting option for low cost. just got a batch cnc from angling ai. appreciate all of the content and inspiration from your videos!!

  • @WorldsWorstFishing

    @WorldsWorstFishing

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching man !

  • @fbisurveillancevan1635
    @fbisurveillancevan16353 жыл бұрын

    For the Corian/Stone molds, I use a simple silicone spray. It seems to work well.

  • @pondbossbaits4579
    @pondbossbaits45793 жыл бұрын

    Been using stone molds for years. Brush Vaseline every 2-3 injections and it works great. Cast molds look great too if you brush Vaseline on as well every few injections.

  • @backwatercatfishing4989
    @backwatercatfishing49893 жыл бұрын

    I have the bugmolds aluminum molds (just what I chose) they work just fine.. Just have to wait on them to reach you is only down side.. Never got stone molds..great video

  • @064pointbreak
    @064pointbreak Жыл бұрын

    Lesson learned for using a non-metal mold for the first time; not using lubricant

  • @johnnorris1227
    @johnnorris12272 жыл бұрын

    Not sure how fair of a comparison that is. It looks like there is still plastic stuck in that tail on the stone mold from the first run.

  • @daniellaw8999
    @daniellaw89993 жыл бұрын

    Don't oil a stone mould. Use a proper universal mould release spray and the lures will come out just fine. On both baitmold and bugmold they recommend lubricating the mold so why shoot it without lube? Seems pointless and destined to fail. It's like trying to drive your car without putting gas in it. CNC moulds are great, but for the hobbyist just making baits for themselves and maybe a friend or two, I'd go with stone everytime. I'd choose cnc if I wanted to produce big numbers of baits to sell.

  • @WorldsWorstFishing

    @WorldsWorstFishing

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad the stone molds are to your liking.

  • @michaelboettcher9384
    @michaelboettcher93843 жыл бұрын

    I use these rock molds all the time! Love them.spray a little pam on table then take a tooth brush dab pam and lightly put on oil with tooth brush every third pour! One swipe up and down with tooth brush and done! Easy peezy! Great molds!

  • @WorldsWorstFishing

    @WorldsWorstFishing

    3 жыл бұрын

    I am glad they work for you..I didn't have much success haha

  • @MrCami2

    @MrCami2

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@WorldsWorstFishing because there is a training curve to pay

  • @WorldsWorstFishing

    @WorldsWorstFishing

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MrCami2 well of course..

  • @bdooley8469
    @bdooley84693 жыл бұрын

    Yes, I’ve been waiting for this video. Good to know, I won’t be buying the stone. I wouldn’t mind seeing you try a stone mold with it coated with engine block paint. Side note, how do you prevent denting?

  • @WorldsWorstFishing

    @WorldsWorstFishing

    3 жыл бұрын

    Usually injecting at a super low temperature and holding 10 seconds of pressure is the cure for most denting

  • @bdooley8469

    @bdooley8469

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@WorldsWorstFishing ok, I’d been doing it at about the 375 mark in a cold mold. I’ll try letting it cool a little bit next time

  • @str8dappin
    @str8dappin3 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video! Great content. Now you have to test the baits side by side at the lake. Some tips from my experience with stone molds: These molds as with many things have a break in period. They work much better over time. Oil is a no go for the same reasons you described in the video. Waiting too long to remove the baits causes me sticking difficulty. If you remove the baits while the mold still has a little heat in it makes it come out much nicer. Just like cookies on a baking sheet, they are more difficult to unstick while cold. Firmer blends of plastic also perform much better than softer blends.

  • @WorldsWorstFishing

    @WorldsWorstFishing

    3 жыл бұрын

    Good points about the break in

  • @MrCami2

    @MrCami2

    3 жыл бұрын

    Try to use a brush for oil. PAM works better.

  • @str8dappin

    @str8dappin

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MrCami2 I haven't tried that yet so it's definitely worth a shot. I kinda am thinking though that it will still have the same problem just slightly better. I think adding anything that will add volume of a liquid will continue to be a problem. Unless it can be forced out the vents.

  • @basscatlildave
    @basscatlildave3 жыл бұрын

    Great comparison. I have a stone mold that I picked up on a deal from somebody with a little finesse worm it shoots OK but there’s nothing like the CNC

  • @darrenhall7990
    @darrenhall79903 жыл бұрын

    I know this is an older video. I do have a special place in my heart for the blue silicone molds. I have better luck pouring a 3 pour worm. I can get the heat just right to split the bloodline on the middle layer. It looks beautiful. Especially with a top smoked color with a split gold dust bloodline, and the bottom smoke. I like how you can add volume to the worm, height wise, without an actual over pour. I've bought 1 piece CNC flats, I can't get those results. I also bought a couple injection molds, they are en route from BTS and and AI. Now I can't find the GOOD injectors with the locking cap. I need a triple with a triple and a double block. I guess pouring flats for the last 25 years has me stuck in my ways. Just need the injectors to start this journey and get with the times.

  • @alexandrest-onge7381
    @alexandrest-onge73812 жыл бұрын

    Hey, someone know where i can find MULTI cavites Albies Snaxx mold and Slug-go one ? Freaking molds are hard to find ! Same with Jig Head molds... always multi cavities with differents weights. I'm looking for good production mold thanks in advance !

  • @thedarkmittetoast7967
    @thedarkmittetoast79672 жыл бұрын

    This was very instructive because I plan to make my own plastics. I saw some mold of good bait, sold by bugmold ... but after your test ... i'm probably not .... after some research, I found CNC plastic mold ... what do you think about it ?

  • @pakofishing
    @pakofishing Жыл бұрын

    Hello ;) I see you've used mica powder, what is the other pigment that you used (the liquid black) ? :)

  • @Flarexxxx
    @Flarexxxx3 жыл бұрын

    Only one beer left!?!? Rookie numbers man XD same reason i always keep 2 bottles of rum, not a heavy drinker but when i want a couple man i dont want to have just one Edit: remember don't get into watches Those that know Will know

  • @WorldsWorstFishing

    @WorldsWorstFishing

    3 жыл бұрын

    Haha I disgraced myself

  • @michaelgarcia4210
    @michaelgarcia42103 жыл бұрын

    I’ve been using and selling lures using the do-it 3 inch paddle tail mold. I have sends like crazy in the bodys of my baits. I was starting to think it was because of my temperature or error, but it’s great to see it’s not just me lol. Definitely going to invest in some new molds

  • @michaelgarcia4210

    @michaelgarcia4210

    3 жыл бұрын

    Dents*

  • @trent5327
    @trent53273 жыл бұрын

    I make senkos in a do-it aluminum mold using regrinds, they ain't pretty but the bass don't care. I spent less than $100 to get everything I needed, including the plastic, molds, and injector. I've weighed in big bass on those senkos twice, and placed in the top 5 on em many times. And I've saved hundreds by not buying Yamamoto senkos, and I've proven my getto senkos to outfish em multiple times anyway. I understand buying a $400 CNC mold if you intend to sell baits because consumers want something that looks shiny, but there is no need to spend a ton on stuff if you're making lures for personal use. Just my 2 cents worth

  • @WorldsWorstFishing

    @WorldsWorstFishing

    3 жыл бұрын

    Oh yeah that mold absolutely produces a good bait..and the good part is you can customize your barometer and colors however you see fit 👌

  • @keeperofthegood
    @keeperofthegood3 жыл бұрын

    Chris, I am surprised that you didn't go that extra step :) dip those rough baits in a clear with something that plays well with textures like a little bit of hypershift or pearl power added. Good demonstration over all. The other n00b item I have been looking at are injectors. There seem to be a wide range of them from DIY copper pipe rigs, to glass syringes, teflon ones and a range of aluminum ones. Including multi injectors that mix sizes (25/75 volume difference for example). And in terms of volume from 40cc and on up.

  • @marctheriault

    @marctheriault

    3 жыл бұрын

    I've been going through a bunch of Chris' DIY vids and his first choice for injectors seems to be Bass Tackle. www.basstackle.com/category_s/78.htm. Still doing hand pour for now, but that's my plan if I make a jump to injection.

  • @WorldsWorstFishing

    @WorldsWorstFishing

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@marctheriault definitely bass tackle!

  • @kennethc5223
    @kennethc52233 жыл бұрын

    I used to have do it molds. Harder work to keep dents and bubbles out, cnc are easier. Great video.

  • @WorldsWorstFishing

    @WorldsWorstFishing

    3 жыл бұрын

    Agree!

  • @mrgungho
    @mrgungho2 жыл бұрын

    that injection mold that was injection molded is funny. never knew that

  • @kramnackman9562
    @kramnackman95623 жыл бұрын

    I Will agree they suck out of the Box but to get even heating on the do it molds I belt sanded the back of them and I used my dremmel tool with a light compound and polished the inside so they came out smoother I oil everything between runs with Golden grub oil with a little paint brush . I also have 2 angling AI C &c molds And one with no name I got it at a flea market So I got a little bit of everything and I love to tinker with it ...PS love your channel And I live a couple miles away from where They make your beloved Yuengling beer😁👍🍺

  • @WorldsWorstFishing

    @WorldsWorstFishing

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lol love the yuengling..it's not German bier..but it's good!

  • @dakotak.6956
    @dakotak.69563 жыл бұрын

    could you heat finish/polish the do it swimbaits? Just an idea idk if it would work

  • @WorldsWorstFishing

    @WorldsWorstFishing

    3 жыл бұрын

    A heat set would work somewhat

  • @ThePurposeFullLife
    @ThePurposeFullLife3 жыл бұрын

    If you clear dip the lures from cast aluminum after injecting them, would that fix the rough finish issue and give a glossy smooth finish?

  • @diggerwest5219
    @diggerwest52193 жыл бұрын

    I have 5 inch stick mold as long as i oil it shoots great not like my cnc molds but they work

  • @hawkins3888
    @hawkins38883 жыл бұрын

    good video for those trying to decide which molds types to get would like to see a video on curly tail crappie grubs with tails one color and body another keep up the good work on videos very informative

  • @WorldsWorstFishing

    @WorldsWorstFishing

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching

  • @MrCami2
    @MrCami23 жыл бұрын

    Chris, I think that reading comments about stone molds, quite all of them describe good experience, isn't it? So, I think that you have to review your opinion about them. Sure, stone molds are not easy to inject, there is a training curve, but ONE thing has not been said till now: you can find quite all most famous soft baits replicated by stone molds. I personally started with silicon pouring mold, now I use my own two halves silicon injection ones, I bought an american 4 cavities alu CNC mold, it's great, I also use some sand casted german alu molds, but believe me: my best injected soft baits come from the cheaper stone molds ... they are machined by CNC, too. Bye Cami

  • @yaboiyabby
    @yaboiyabby3 жыл бұрын

    Could you make a dark greenish blue senko with small purple and small lime flake?

  • @claudeharridge5413
    @claudeharridge54133 жыл бұрын

    - Thanks for the review, I have ordered and received 5 of the stone molds, I have all the parts now to start pouring / injecting. We will see what happens... not real encouraged about them now...

  • @davidguidi8737
    @davidguidi87372 жыл бұрын

    My logic on molds is you get what you can afford for a beginner and when I started I used bait molds then upgraded as I got better with time

  • @nealkrueger6009
    @nealkrueger60093 жыл бұрын

    I jus watched your clip on moulds . ive got a question on who makes cnc moulds and what does a maker typically need to make a mould. I am looking to geta mould to cast my own Mann's. Mosquito Hawk type. Bait, simce the havent been made in years. I got to locate a mold and make my own. I am not going to pay 40.00 for a pack of 12 (when you can findthem on EBay.. Thanks for the entertaining vids.

  • @spunkmeyerk6660
    @spunkmeyerk66603 жыл бұрын

    Could you polish the cast mold to get a nicer finish?

  • @i2aspire
    @i2aspire3 жыл бұрын

    Glad I ordered 2 more Angling A.I molds than the cheaper ones, thanks for sharing

  • @WorldsWorstFishing

    @WorldsWorstFishing

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ai is incredible

  • @howardchapman800
    @howardchapman800 Жыл бұрын

    Do you know of a company that makes custom aluminum or C&C molds?

  • @owinkorf9747
    @owinkorf97473 жыл бұрын

    Im a beginner. What are the best but affordable cnc mold brands?

  • @coltonoller6581
    @coltonoller65813 жыл бұрын

    I have the same ripper molds lol🎣

  • @michaelboettcher9384
    @michaelboettcher93843 ай бұрын

    I use baitmolds alot. Just spray some Pam on table then take a tooth brush and lightly brush on mold ever 3 times you shoot. Have shot thousands of lures perfect.

  • @kevinclingaman6277
    @kevinclingaman62773 жыл бұрын

    Chris, Can you explain the heating up of the molds? Seems I’ve seen the molds on a griddle/hot plate type item, but what is the purpose, etc. Thanks.

  • @WorldsWorstFishing

    @WorldsWorstFishing

    3 жыл бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZodouKWqltSdkso.html

  • @rickybell2.056
    @rickybell2.056 Жыл бұрын

    I would encourage everyone to make their own molds

  • @notsure8327
    @notsure83272 жыл бұрын

    I actually find a full finish can bring beneficial. I rough up my flukes and some other plastics sometimes to take that sheen off of it and it makes it look more natural I feel like. I know Shad are very glimmery fish but especially when it comes to bluegill colors, green pumpkin and the like, I’ve found it to be effective. So the finish in some cases is not the biggest deal. That said there’s no substitute for the tolerances in a CNC product

  • @tarponspringsfishingclub
    @tarponspringsfishingclub11 ай бұрын

    Great video...Where do you purchase CNC molds? I want to make shad swim bait lures for salt waters Thank you.

  • @WorldsWorstFishing

    @WorldsWorstFishing

    11 ай бұрын

    Angling Ai molds

  • @michaelboettcher9384
    @michaelboettcher93843 жыл бұрын

    I have poured thousands of tails out of a stone mold. No problems! I do lube with tooth brush every third time!

  • @WorldsWorstFishing

    @WorldsWorstFishing

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad they work well for you. The tail design on this Stone mold was definitely a tricky design that would even give trouble in CNC.. I imagine a simpler design in stone would yield good results when lubricated.

  • @glitchmac5488
    @glitchmac54883 жыл бұрын

    I am new to bait making and I have a few stone molds but they are from “Best_nj” and I love them you should really try them out for another comparison video!! They work great for me! I have multiple swim bait ones and a few frogs and flipping bugs! Anyways love the videos bro!!!!!!!

  • @glitchmac5488

    @glitchmac5488

    3 жыл бұрын

    No oil or nothing needed just take em out of the package and shot some baits

  • @glitchmac5488

    @glitchmac5488

    3 жыл бұрын

    Looks kinda like the Do-it mold in this video (the swim bait I like)

  • @BIOSYNBAITS
    @BIOSYNBAITS3 жыл бұрын

    Which CNC swimbait mold was that? Link if possible

  • @jaimecorona9948
    @jaimecorona99482 жыл бұрын

    Brother, I need information about making a mold, can you help me?

  • @paulsarris9638
    @paulsarris96383 жыл бұрын

    hey chris . great channel you have here . i have a question about denting . i use a cnc mold and i get to much denting for my liking . was wondering if there is a way to fix this issue ?

  • @collinsworlddiscovery7639
    @collinsworlddiscovery7639 Жыл бұрын

    What mold is better a benteto bug or a senko mold?

  • @crazycofalcon
    @crazycofalcon3 жыл бұрын

    What about silicone molds for hand poured baits - go do they rate?

  • @WorldsWorstFishing

    @WorldsWorstFishing

    3 жыл бұрын

    Love em! Have many videos with silicone open pours

  • @JCrooks412
    @JCrooks4123 жыл бұрын

    CNC molds for sure. I do use some cast aluminum molds still since thats what I started with before getting molds from angling AI. Great video, keep them up.

  • @WorldsWorstFishing

    @WorldsWorstFishing

    3 жыл бұрын

    🙌

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