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@brokenbridge6316

Жыл бұрын

This was a nicely done video on a very dramatic battle.

@vking8084

Жыл бұрын

When is Hannibal part19 going to be released please reply

@stanisawzokiewski3308

Жыл бұрын

The knight on the thumbnail looks late 14th century

@abdimuhumed422

Жыл бұрын

@@vking8084 Also waiting how Hannibal died

@burtlangoustine1

Жыл бұрын

Did they really fire cannon from giant Cactus plants? 🤪

Imagine hearing that the only reason the Ottomans didn't take over your town was because it was deemed "too easy" and not worthy of the Sultan.

@sangralknight3031

Жыл бұрын

Would be a nice thing to hear. Getting sacked is not a pleasant expiriance.

@QueenTheCossackTongued

Жыл бұрын

Id bow to the great mercy of the Sultan and extend thanks to God and all the people of the Town for being so humble

@Hello-ig1px

Жыл бұрын

I’d be furious and demand single combat with the ottoman’s greatest champion

@XCroxousX

Жыл бұрын

@@Hello-ig1px Hahahahhaha

@offlinecommando5839

Жыл бұрын

ottomans are nothing

shocking how quickly and easily a victory could be turned into a defeat.

@ganizhunis910

Жыл бұрын

Playing chess I would say that is common things. But this battle was interesting.

@darklordojeda

Жыл бұрын

Watch a few Las Vegas Raiders games, it will become commonplace.

@adadeutsch9593

Жыл бұрын

story of my life

@williamrobert9898

Жыл бұрын

@@ganizhunis910 Facts

@onurormeci7815

10 ай бұрын

Bana göre zafer mesela .d

Wow after numerous cautious, brilliant and disciplined moves by the Chriatians, greed took over just before the final moment. This is a good textbook study on the necessity to remain disciplined til the very end.

@Azakadune

Жыл бұрын

Stealing defeat from the jaws of victory. I can’t believe how hard they fumbled.

@sjonnieplayfull5859

Жыл бұрын

"An unordered mob of soldiers is as unlike an army as a heap of building materials is a house"

@gm2407

Жыл бұрын

This is why discipline and heirarchy is so important for unit cohesion. Without the pressure of officers and NCOs bearing down on people self interest kicks in and both greed and fear destroy the unit. If you look at the way the Macedonian Phalanx was constructed, for exampe, you see that it wasn't just x amount of people in a rectangular formation. People with experience had roles in different parts of the file to keep others in line. Some of the earliest equivalencies of NCOs can be seen here. Each file of sixteen men had a commander (Dekadarch) and three more experienced soldiers in file with one of them at the end. The unit cohesion of the Tercios would have been based on something akin to this and presumably became muddied during the crossing and battle as units mingled and experienced unit leaders were injured and killed. It is also possible that even the experienced soldiers who were supposed to maintain the cohesion also got greedy and failed to do their job. This of course would lead to a faster breakdown by example.

@FirstLast_Nba

Жыл бұрын

They must have heard the fat lady sing.

@elite6804

Жыл бұрын

@@sjonnieplayfull5859 ah Socrates

In Turkish this battle is known as "Kepçe Kazan Savaşı" (The Battle of Ladle and Cauldron) in honor of the cooks and other auxiliary units that took up arms and fought in the face of imminent defeat.

@mehmetarasorhan1557

Жыл бұрын

👍🏻👍🏻

@omerfaruk6082

Жыл бұрын

It is today mainly known as "Haçova Savaşı" (Battle of The Field of Cross) by modern Turkish historians. But Ottomans may have used that term to what they experienced that day.

@reshatavciogluovchuyev7671

Жыл бұрын

300.000 "crusaders" against 150.000 ottoman+5000 auxilaries, and what? Or you mean, auxilaries were 100.000?

@jahinsadman1505

Жыл бұрын

@@reshatavciogluovchuyev7671 300 greeks vs 1 milion persians

@rashadovchuyev2199

Жыл бұрын

@@jahinsadman1505 Spartans were tough guys, but your need more to beat such a big army...

Now that I've beaten Kingdom Come: Deliverance, the name Sigismund instantly catches my attention

@lafamiliahernandez3015

Жыл бұрын

One of my fav open world PS4 games! Choppy and glitchy but fun.

@ArabianRazumZar

Жыл бұрын

Oh my god yeah !!! That name sounded Familiar when I heard it

@Mario46er

Жыл бұрын

Wait until they cover the nicopolis crusade

@codygreene4978

Жыл бұрын

That game was long asf 🤣🤣

@thenewcaesar9866

Жыл бұрын

Game was sooo long I stoped playing

By this time, the Ottomans had reached the very end of the logistical capacities of 16th-19th Century armies in Europe. You could just barely move artillery from Constantinople to Vienna in the spring and summer before the fall rains set in. You could prepare the previous fall, as the Ottomans did in 1683, but your enemies would therefore also have time to prepare. The Ottomans could not establish a closer logistical base, such as at Belgrade, because they were also at war with the Safavid Dynasty of Persia to the east. Basically, they had expanded as far as they could, anywhere.

@stillcantbesilencedevennow

Жыл бұрын

Projection of power is just as crucial as actual power in the end.

@yamamotohiromori419

Жыл бұрын

Is it because they expand too quickly than their infrastructure building speed? They don't have to bring something as heavy as artillery but still, the Roman could expand much further than the Ottoman did, or is it because the Janissaries less efficient (at carrying stuff) that the legionaries, or because their enemy had more or less the same technology while the Roman keep inventing like the corvus when they going against the phoenician in the naval warfare

@astranix0198

Жыл бұрын

@@yamamotohiromori419 Romans usually expanded on territories that were unorganized. The Ottomans were in a situation where they are surrounded on all sides by countries that are evenly matched, if not superior, to them.

@asmrnaturecat984

Жыл бұрын

@@yamamotohiromori419 janissaries is based on istanbul an far smaller in scale compared to legions

@tezcanuyank3446

Жыл бұрын

@@yamamotohiromori419 legions usually don't carry artillery(catapults for their era) so they are normally more mobile armies than ottomans

*Ottoman regulars being routed* The cook: "Fine, I'll do it myself."

@godking

Жыл бұрын

Body servant : enemy troops looting the camp ! Not today pal ! Not while im around !

@diegochavez4505

Жыл бұрын

It’s always the cooks that carry out the victories huh 😂 I heard a French cook killed an English king I forgot what battle though

@kaganbaykal6984

Жыл бұрын

Look's like meat is back on the menu

@sherlocksmuuug6692

Жыл бұрын

@@diegochavez4505 That's a popular legend but not quite true. King Richard the Lionheart was done in by a French kid with a crossbow during a siege, the wound eventually festered and killed him. While there are a whole bunch of legends about the event (one referring to him as a cook) we actually know nothing of the boy's occupation or age with any certainry. There isn't even a full consensus regarding his name.

Channels like this are the reason I’m so into history. Battles this well animated and documented put everything to scale for me to understand and you really grasp that these are thousands of men fighting for what they believe is a good cause or for pay for their families. So much blood and gunpowder. Thank you for what you do!

@Hello-ig1px

Жыл бұрын

that is bs. Total War is the real reason. All of these channels wouldn't exist if it wasn't for Total War.

@vintinoo1924

Жыл бұрын

@@Hello-ig1px WHat is BS? i just stated channels like this help me grasp and understand history better... i don't play Total war games

@Hello-ig1px

Жыл бұрын

@@vintinoo1924 total war led to these channels being created. so therefore, it total war is the reason you are so into history.

@GoldenHordeofBerke

Жыл бұрын

Lol. You should try Omega 3s. This channel is far better

@neonknight-1522

Жыл бұрын

@@Hello-ig1px total war does a bad job at simulating real life battles. Just look at how few troops it lets you deploy you burger

As usual, the Westerners worked out that the number of Ottomans was too large. They are geniuses at showing as little of themselves as possible.

@wankawanka3053

Жыл бұрын

Cope turk

@elang1702

Жыл бұрын

Classic them, try to visit the Wikipedia (ugh) pages for the Umayyad invasion of the Franks, loads of boooo-shit there in terms of the numbers of men for both side.

@Letnistonwandif

Жыл бұрын

And you easterners should Stfup thé Ottoman army outnembered thém 2 yo 1

@muatheluafi6816

Жыл бұрын

@Timur Sayfullah Who feared who

@muatheluafi6816

Жыл бұрын

@Timur Sayfullah I don't think that's true bro , they won at the end and conquered everybody.

We thaught that war as Battle of Hacova in TR. And also Turkish historians tells the last resistance was prepared by Hoca Sadettin Efendi who was the first teacher and mentor of young Sultan and also an important historian of Ottomans. Actually Sultan decided to run out of the battlefield but Sadettin Efendi cut his way off and tells him "Never before an İslam army which led by the Sultan personally turned its face away from the enemy. You should stay firm and have to show to your servants how to resist the enemy" then Sultan decided to remain. Sadettin Efendi also prepared the resistance among the logistic group of the camp. According to my high school teacher Sadettin Efendi went to the logistic servants who were trying to pack the goods they can carry and tell them "Arent you men! Life of the Sultan is in danger and you just trying to run away! The Sultan is here, doesnt go anywhere. Now we all should do surround him and die nearby him" Then all the kitchen boys, wagon porters, camel feeders grabbed whatever they reach big laddles, hooks, tent sticks etc and fight against the plundering enemy. The first wave of the resistance had arose in that way.

@majedbejaoui4285

2 күн бұрын

Those low quality sultans with no experience drinking and spending all there time in harem along side the sultanate of women killed our beloved caliphate empire, look at as now watching our brothers and sisters being raped and killed and not doing anything. what a shame.

What a dramatic battle. I wish older battles could have been preserved in the same way more "modern" battles are. Each one is a story full of bravery and tragedy, with dramatic plot-twists around every turn. Imagine all battles Rome fought being as well documented as this one.

@jung9399

Жыл бұрын

might be a story

@TheChuckfuc

Жыл бұрын

16th and 17th century warfare is highly underrated.

@streetscholar3539

Жыл бұрын

But that's what makes them so interesting no? Because some of it is just not known and some is just legend

@hashaamkhalid417

Жыл бұрын

these stories are so dramatic cuz most of them are made up.

@Fallout3131

Жыл бұрын

@@jung9399 Definitely not just a story I was there and can confirm

Imagine getting killed by ottomans camp cook with fork

@oromokomoboromokomo407

3 күн бұрын

Huahahaa 😂

1 hour extravaganza!!!! Loved every moment of it guys! Your shorter productions are obviously great and that is why we are here, but having a total storyline told from beginning to end is ironically more engaging then the shorter devided parts. Brilliant, love it and please make more!

@jaggar28

Жыл бұрын

Just realized it was 1 hour long. The video was very well made.

@alamore5084

Жыл бұрын

Agree it is indeed an extravaganza. Prime or Netflix should commission them for a multi series deal.

Basically "both sides fucked up tremendously and then just decided to forget it and go home afterward" anyway.

The Habsburg strategy on ottoman affairs is something to be studied more closely. They literally refused to meet them on an open battlefield until the long turkish war. Dont fight an enemy on the open field you cant beat and wait for a more opportune time and place. Much to learn in that.

@billyjesus5442

Жыл бұрын

plus they had the whole of europe to call on, its not like the Ottomans could call on 20 muslims allies into any of the wars. The other big Muslim power the safavids the Ottomans were constantly at war with on the other side of the empire.

@noone7692

Жыл бұрын

@@billyjesus5442 nope habsburg had alots of enemy the French English swedes and Russians didn't like the habsburg and hubsburg didn't had the economy or the population of ottoman empire the reason for habsburg victory is solely to thier technological advancement new tactics and smart genrals like Eugene of savoy.

@billyjesus5442

Жыл бұрын

@@noone7692 they had a few wars but had the entire catholic world on their side including the pope. Lets not carried away charlie.

@petrapetrakoliou8979

Жыл бұрын

I must agree with No One, the Christians had all their wishes against a further advance of the Ottomans, but in practice nearly nobody was helping the Habsburgs and the Hungarians and they were most of the time not paying their troops either, although Habsbourg Spain had plenty of gold to do so. France allied with the Turcs against the Habsbourgs and were openly helping them to conquer Vienna for crying out loud. Politics and division were a greater lord than religion in practice in Europe. Apart from some adventurers coming to their aid, the Habsburgs were quite alone.

@KemoDev1

Жыл бұрын

Well it so not true to paint a picture of united europe against ottoman invasion but is it true that they somehow managed to work together against the juggernaut althought being at war or being hostile with eachother all the time. Even the long Term rivals of the bourbon and Habsburg monarchies managed the work together at Gotthard or Look up lepanto or more famously the 2nd Siege of vienna.

The way this channel studies hundred year old registries and records from many different sources and then condenses them into an hour long video it's simply astounding. So much information, so many names, strategies and places all portraited so perfectly and with so much clarity and care that it is perfectly manageable by the viewer and easily retained thanks to the masterful visuals. I wish all history professors would try to teach history with such passion! They who don't know their history, are damned to repeat it. And how true it is for our time.

Nah bro this has to be deemed as the biggest fumble in military history

Thanks again for the collab, looking forward to working with HistoryMarche again soon!

@HistoryMarche

Жыл бұрын

Likewise. Looking forward to late July!

Prime or Netflix really should commission this channel for several seasons. It would be popular and markedly better than a lot of the history content on there.

@HistoryMarche

Жыл бұрын

That would definitely be awesome on my end :)

The war called in Turkish kepçe kazan savaşı that means spoon and pot war because the servants cooks, tent makers everyone joined the war in the camp with whatever they found including cook spoons, hammers to make tent and axes to cut trees :)

@b0leg23

Жыл бұрын

as the famous saying goes; the spoon is mightier then the sword!

@haruncelik2902

Ай бұрын

Mert kardeşim videonun yarisindan sonra alt yazı gidiyor sende de öyle oldu mu

I got to admit, Mehmed III had me during most of the videos. Looking very incompetent, culminating in his decision to retreat to the camp, leaving 4000 janissaries to their doom outside the camp and looking like a complete fool by mounting no defense of his camp wall, he waited the enemy to get in and turned the tide. The ability of charading a chaos is the acme of discipline according to Tsun Tzu.

@kaanertekin2516

Жыл бұрын

When one's ass is on the line and nothing else to loose I guess thats the only thing one can do. :)

@kmmmsyr9883

Жыл бұрын

He is the most hated sultan in Ottoman history (by his own people). He is not only incompetent, but he is often remembered for killing 19 of his brothers. Fratricide was an Ottoman family tradition, and even a law, at that time, but the residents of Constantinople witnessed 19 little coffins coming out of the palace at a single time, and that was their first impression of the sultan. That was too traumatic that his son Ahmed I abolished fratricide and replaced it with kafes (golden cage) system, he had some other reasons as well but this definitely played a role. Also Mehmed V, the sultan during World War I, refused to visit Mehmed III's tomb during a visit to the tombs of his ancestors, and even cursed him publicly.

@stateservant

Жыл бұрын

@@kmmmsyr9883 Ah yeah, i heard about it. But i was only appreciating his military decision in this particular case. Not like i am praising his reign.

@jezzahawkes5218

Жыл бұрын

Exactly you make the enemy to believe what you want them to believe, think your near when your far and far when your near.

@Skanderberg79

Жыл бұрын

So, he was a coward and a liar

I love the combined videos! Much easier to follow, and obviously easy to watch in the proper order also! Well done! Brother!

This was such a great look on this battle. You guys did a great job at making this documentary series. While I had known that the Ottomans won this battle for most of this video it didn't seem like it and I was beginning to question whether I recalled my memory correctly. Amazing battle and video. Keep doing what you are and I really enjoyed it.

@mal-avcisi9783

6 ай бұрын

God bless all died warriors. No matter if christians or ottomans. All heroes on their own ways ...🙏

@ufem2159

5 ай бұрын

​@@mal-avcisi9783 kesinlikle

Imagine starting a war between two major superpowers just because you are embarassed about how your subordinate went to start shit on his own and got stomped the second time around.

I remember as a kid, thinking to myself that it was amazing the Ottomans won so many victories against the Europeans, considering the fact that the European soldiers were armoured from head to toe with chain-mail and plate armour. The Ottoman troops by comparison were very lightly armoured. It really put Ottoman troops at a disadvantage when involved in in clashes with European troops. Honestly, the European soldiers looked like mediaeval robocops.

@serdarbozkurt8544

Жыл бұрын

ottoman janissaries were superior professional troops than european knights nearly 2 centuries(late 14th century to late 16th century) their equipments were also heavy. they wear 35 kg chain mail armour with additional plate armour.

@felipeurrea3638

5 ай бұрын

​@@serdarbozkurt8544los otomanos solo ganaban por numeros todos los países de Europa derrotaron a tus jenizaros

@furkane4416

3 ай бұрын

You have to learn about ottoman army system before comparing to europeans. Videos are not fair as you listened this war from european side. To approach better reviews, such subjects must be researched from both sides.

man, i really love your content. i hope that after i get my job situation figured out i can support you guys. you are doing amazing work!

In 1006 AH (1597 AD) the ambassadors of Iran, Bukhara, Fez and Venice came with gifts to the Sultan and congratulated him on this great victory. And the emir of Mecca sent the Kiswah of the honorable Kaaba to the Astana (Istanbul) & its people rejoiced and were blessed with it

Alternate title: How to throw away a victory and make the battle a loss for both parties A very nice detailed video! 👍 As a hungarian it was painful to watch though

@starbugmechanic5236

Жыл бұрын

At least they got all their cannons back. 😕

@BOZ_11

Жыл бұрын

nah the Ottomans won. no ambiguity about that

@captanjames6765

Жыл бұрын

Haahahaha

@xxxhalo4everxxx

Жыл бұрын

@@BOZ_11 you spelled ottocunts wrong

@johnnyboy3971

Жыл бұрын

@@BOZ_11 I guess a Pyrrhic victory is still technically a victory. Although, not a victory of their own making, which is why I consider it a loss.

I love those documentaries talking about events in History mainly unknown. Especially about battles and wars in the Balkans.

Despite the Christian defeat, the archduke's redemption arc was absolutely cinematic. The man went from an inexperienced commander who almost compromised the entire campaign and was appointed due to corruption, to an observant and astute General who repeatedly proved his worth. Correctly assessing the opposing army's condition and the decision to wage a war of attrition gave the Christians the advantage they had on the final day of battle. And the only reason they lost is because some of the "experienced" commanders didn't listen to his sound and cautious advice. Not to mention that even when the allied army fell into disarray, it was only the archduke with his cavalry contingent that managed to maintain cohesion and a battle line, and saved the allied army numerous times. Archduke maximillian III for the win

@Brslld

9 ай бұрын

Whats with the qoutation marks? Are you implying that they were as inexperienced as Maximilian or lesser experienced? They certainly were, they did fought the ottomans for years or even decades. This was just aggressiveness in the commanders' part.

@stamatisvolanis8482

9 ай бұрын

@unkownbyname7773 no I'm not implying that they weren't experienced, I used the quotation marks for irony, because these experienced commanders who were supposed to be trusted were the ones whose commands caused the ottomans to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat. Commanders experienced against the ottomans being to blame for an ottoman victory while the inexperienced archduke struggled to turn the tide is pretty ironic

@Brslld

9 ай бұрын

@@stamatisvolanis8482 Oh okay

@Proxuius

8 ай бұрын

wdym advantage of the final day of battle, and naw they still lost cope

@Proxuius

8 ай бұрын

@@stamatisvolanis8482 naw the ottomans just won cope

Dear HistoryMarche, I really love your channel and content. Would you consider covering Khmelnytsky uprising and Polish - Zaporozhian war? There are a lot of epic battles, plot twists and overall it is the one of the most important events, (if not the most) in the ukrainian history. In fact it is the most important war of Eastern Europe, because it marked the beginning of rise of Russia and fall of Poland-Lithuania. Plus nobody on youtube made a good strategic analysis on it like you do, as far as I know. Thx

@nebuchadnezzarii5691

Жыл бұрын

Yeah they should. I’ve been wondering about the exact mark of decline of the Polish Lithuanian Commonweath.

@HistoryMarche

Жыл бұрын

No plans for Polish-Zaporozhian war, but we will release the Battle of Klushino and Battle of Kircholm soon.

@nebuchadnezzarii5691

Жыл бұрын

@@HistoryMarche do you have any plans on doing Skanderbegs rebellion?

@Hello-ig1px

Жыл бұрын

who cares about polish wars?

@allenlindsey1175

Жыл бұрын

@@Hello-ig1px I know right

Awesome illustrations and explanations, was genuinely enjoyable to watch!

Last week, I was reading a first-hand source about this war in the Archives of the Prime Minister in Istanbul. According to the source, the Ottoman Sultan didn't want to join in the war, but the official historian of the palace Hodja Sadeddin motivated him to join in it. Finally, Mehmet the third joined the war. Hodja Sadeddin was Sultan`s advisor at the same time.

@burakcr7744

Жыл бұрын

true

Well presented as always. keep up the good work!

In this battle, the numbers were equal to each other. the armies were around one hundred thousand. the combined army was ready for a full field battle. but the Turkish army was a siege army and was not suitable for a field battle.

What an amazing story.. and it all actually happened. I think about all the people who died that day and wonder if they’d have chosen differently now that we know how it all ended that day.

What a great presentation of the events. Enjoyed every single minute of it

these battles are relatively unknown by the larger world, thanks for posting

Just goes to show you the value of persistence. The Ottoman head honcho stayed and rallied his troops, while that archduke dude fled to the stream and didn’t even bother heading into his own camp, so he lost. Like an old staff sergeant I knew used to say, discipline wins battles.

@ddc2957

Жыл бұрын

“Victory belongs to he who perseveres the longest.” - Napoleon

@khaldrago911

Жыл бұрын

@@ddc2957 Napoleon sure knew a thing or two about winning battles. Thank you for sharing this.

@allenlindsey1175

Жыл бұрын

Close order drill #1

@MarkhasSteelfort

Жыл бұрын

@A R These numbers are subject to great bias. Like imagine the first fight, Christians lost 15 men while there are Janissaries shooting them? And Ottomans lost 1000? Westerners sure know how to manipulate the results. Howerver, I would agree that Ottomans in total would outnumber them due to their old Roman conscription methods but it would not be 2 or 3 to one.

@yusufardagures5490

9 ай бұрын

@@MarkhasSteelforthat was honest, thanks.

Love this channel, very good coverage of this war. I also find the bloody revenge raids between the Cossacks and Crimean Tartars very interesting over this time period, even when the Habsburgs and Ottomans were at peace they couldn't stop these people from killing each other.

@kusturucu1015

Жыл бұрын

For the whole history Turks fought against each other more than they fought against the foreigners you know

@Romkosss

Жыл бұрын

@@kusturucu1015 Cossacs were of Ruthenian-Polish-Lituanian ethnicity.

@kusturucu1015

Жыл бұрын

@@Romkosss Still doesn't change the fact that what i wrote above is true

@bluefish4999

Жыл бұрын

@@kusturucu1015 Well that goes for all people around the world through history I guess.

@krempixxx

Жыл бұрын

to this day tatars from russia daily massacre civs and people other ethnicity :D

Janissaries were 50.000 men at their peak (and that was the time after they abandon devshirme system). Also Ottomans did not have "nobles". They were appointed officers. The Turkish nobility stood on their Beyliks.

@enisektem

Жыл бұрын

Ottoman "nobles" (laughing in Turkish 😅)

@xchampionx9

8 ай бұрын

Wrong info alert

@sarubet8725

8 ай бұрын

@@xchampionx9 how?

@deathdefyingowl

7 ай бұрын

there was no beyliks at this time either. there was never been nobility in Ottoman Empire which is a very good thing.

@sarubet8725

7 ай бұрын

@@deathdefyingowl sipahi beys and local governors existed.

These guys really know his to tell a true account of history, superb details and most enjoyable to listen and watch right to the end. Quality .

Awesome video, love this series

You guys should make a series of on Timur rise to power next.

@smellypatel5272

Жыл бұрын

Timur is so underrated. I would love to see HM do a video on him. Same deal with his descendant Babur

@sadiqrahman2961

Жыл бұрын

@@smellypatel5272 Timur, Khalid ibn Al Waleed, Nader Shah arent given their due credits

@jairajputana938

Жыл бұрын

@@sadiqrahman2961 all were bloody monsters and mass murderers, sadly these are the heroes of muslims.

@BledaTurk

Жыл бұрын

Timur The greatest commander in the world has never suffered a single defeat in his life, winning over 170 battles. Neither Genghis Khan, Alexander the Great, nor Hannibal could pour water on Timur's hands.

@reftop5065

Жыл бұрын

@@BledaTurk timur was defeated in his early life several times and so gengis khan

One of the biggest fumbles in history... seemingly very well done until the moment where everything fell apart for no reason.

@chadosama5399

Жыл бұрын

Man, it was a balls up from the beginning on the Christians side. Took two weeks to even think of relieving the fort. They were supposedly dug in and waiting for the Sultan to come to them, but were caught with their pants down. Also, very little was done to fortify their positions. Then you had the infantry leave formation to cross the river and were slaughtered. And finally, disregarding their position and overall tactics for a "Leroy Jenkins" that cost them dearly. Terrible leadership displayed, and a fine example of everything wrong with a hastily combined allied force.

@LAH92

Жыл бұрын

@@chadosama5399 amazing write up there mate love the "Leroy Jenkins" quote 😂😂😂😂

@chadosama5399

Жыл бұрын

@@LAH92 lol, I was half way through writing "Hail Mary", but thought it bad taste considering they were Christians, and old Leroy suited the allied leader's behaviour better. When they announce the Christians were going to dig in and wait for the Sultan to come to them, I was impressed. When the Sultan arrived late to practically zero defences, I was constantly shaking my head.

@LAH92

Жыл бұрын

@@chadosama5399 I couldn't agree more, he really did have a Leroy Jenkins mindset 😂😂

@chadosama5399

Жыл бұрын

@علي ياسر .Never said she was, mate

Appreciate this combined version

Your your way to describe the battle is fantastic,make you see in your mind what happened like a movie and a very good entertaining one. Hope someone put your work in a live action,will be Fantastic to hear your voice in the background giving life to the thinking of military minds of the past

Great! time to rewatch this masterpiece

always History Marche introducing a wonderful coverage thanks

Love you videos thanks for your hard work and I never take you guys for granted thank you

Wow! Much handier to have all 3-in1. I always thumbs-up your youtube content, and once I am earning more money I will become a Patreon supporter. You guys cover it accurately, and usually do a great job visually - especially of the commanders. (Yeah, we know - having to put in cartoon-balloon - [actually 1594] stuff.

Nice to see more videos of conflicts from the pike and shot era.

@Reignor99

Жыл бұрын

Check out the channel "SandRhoman History" for great content about this era.

Those deaths weren't for nothing. They gave me 58 minutes of enjoyment.

@HistoryMarche

Жыл бұрын

Fair enough lol

@drg8687

Жыл бұрын

@@HistoryMarche Great content btw. Only recently found your channel. Off to learn about William!

@erkuttimur

Жыл бұрын

Imagine that you suddenly being teleported in to that battle. Between two mad armies and they know what you think about them indeed...:D

I love how the maps look like! You do an amazing job there.

simply brilliant! thank you

This battle shows that if you stay in the fight you have a chance of winning. Also, it seems that the tens of thousands of people who died on both sides died for nothing.

@korosuke1788

Жыл бұрын

Nobody has ever "won" a battle. What sometimes happens is that one side loses more than the rest, but the most common is that everyone loses.

@twomp5613

Жыл бұрын

@@korosuke1788 that’s stupid

@twomp5613

Жыл бұрын

@@korosuke1788 that’s like saying no one’s ever won a boxing match because no matter what so one gets punched 🤨

@dersuddeutschesumpf5444

Жыл бұрын

If you value human life, no battle has and will ever be a victory. Just another sacrifice made by callous generals for their own advancement

@twomp5613

Жыл бұрын

@@dersuddeutschesumpf5444 bullshit both battles for self defense and battles against tyranny can and often do result in undeniable victory. All war is cruel but that does not mean all war is evil or unnecessary the idea that no war is just is what cravens use to defend there cowardice in the face of tyranny.

It's really super interesting to learn about battles I had never ever heard of before, from countries I'm not even from.

@silentnoises4359

Жыл бұрын

Greetings from Türkiye 🇹🇷😉

Just awesome! thanks, really enjoy your videos.

I love this documentaries! Thank you!

Thank you! Extremely interesting story about discipline determination prudence clear planning and morale.

You tell the tale of the battle well. It is astounding to hear how the Christian forces prevailed in every clash until they lost discipline and fell to looting before the battle was over; talk about snatching defeat from the jaws of victory! One edit I would recommend is to replace all references to" rifles" to "muskets". I much doubt that more than a few - if indeed any! - of the firearms were rifled, even among the better-equipped Christian forces.

@raptorhacker599

11 ай бұрын

that is same for all forces

@raptorhacker599

11 ай бұрын

this is why drilled professional troops are that valuable

Wow, the suspense had me glued to this one!

Crazy situation. Thanks for the history lesson!

Yes keep making these long videos please

Excellent video. A little suggestion: when explaining a progressing sequence of events and movements, it can be helpful to show the year in one corner. Something not intrusive but that can be checked anytime.

Tus vídeos son la ostia, de lo mejor que se puede ver en cuestiones militares de KZread. Un placer verlos.

I can’t stop listening to this great narrator and the background sound. The best in whole history KZread

I love your content. Have you ever thought about making a video on the Rebellions of Upper & Lower Canada in 1837/38? It was Canada's failed revolution against the British.

@saint4life09

Жыл бұрын

It wasn't against "the British" it was mainly due to political corruption and a desire for local reform. Thankfully it was defeated, many of the rebels hung, and the Canadian federation was formed.

@whiteprivilege4469

Жыл бұрын

@@saint4life09 the federation was formed on the very principal's Mackenzie fought for. it was "against the british" because it ultimately aimed for a self governing sovereign libertarian republic. i for one would love to have seen an independent Canada like our brothers to the South. I bet you wear a mask while driving solo tho.

Greetings from Sisak! Im so proud of my little city full of history. We never fall, the fortress is still standing prettier than ever. Honor to those who gave their lives so we can live our lives the way we want.

@sworial

Жыл бұрын

Come on man. It's all about globalization, social media bullshit, hollywood drama now. Only the castle remains, rest is empty :)

@islammehmeov2334

9 ай бұрын

So you must thank the TURKS

Discovering and subbing to this channel feels like Christmas morning. What an awesome presentation. New sub.

I've watched several of your videos so far and enjoyed them. That's a subbin'!

Bro havent started the video yet but i know its gon be str8 bussin yo!!

One of the best historical based KZread channels, great work, love everything you are doing 🥰!!

@alamore5084

Жыл бұрын

Agree. Would go as far as saying one of the best history channels. They deserve a shot at producing series for mainstream TV. This really is good stuff and would be great if more could see it👍

Thank you!

This video was excellent! Please keep making more

At 34:35 you state that the Christians were "outgunned". If the initial Ottoman artillery consisted of 170 inferior cannon and they lost 49 cannon (43+6) to the Christians in two earlier engagements, how can the Christians be "outgunned" given that the Christians had 97 superior cannon to begin with -- plus the 49 captured Ottoman cannon? Ottomans: 170 inferior cannon - 49 cannon lost = 121 inferior cannon Christians: 97 superior cannon + 49 captured Ottoman cannon = 146 cannon

@berkekaan9118

Жыл бұрын

Maybe they didn't have the appropriate ammuninion for ottoman cannons. I guess both army estimated number of volleys they will fire that day and bring just enough ammunition. It seems logical since both sides might fear leaving excessive amount of ammunition behind in case of potential withdrawal. Also those cannon balls were probably hella heavy.

@MarcusBrutusPL

Жыл бұрын

They would be outgunned for a simple reason - they had not concentated their entire arillery in a single "grand battery" (as Napoleon used to over 200 years later). Each Christian contingent had it's own artillery and some was left to secure the camp (possibly all captured Turkish pieces as well). Mind you demi-culverin, which was the heaviest gun possible to move on the battle field had a range of about 550 - 600 meters. Transilvanian artillery on the southern flank (in the war-wagon camp) definitelly could not reach the main ford area, because of the curve in the battle line.

@DarthVader-ig6ci

Жыл бұрын

@@MarcusBrutusPLalso, aren't artillerymen specially trained troops, so even if they have captured additional guns, would they be able to man those pieces with decent gunners, they wouldn't have enough gunners, won't they??

@deathdefyingowl

7 ай бұрын

ı dont think ottoman guns were inferior for 16th c. these guys main job was besieging castles.

Can't imagine the real scenes of such battlefield 👀

The battle of Sisak seems very interesting, and worthy of you making a video about it.

Thanks for your kind work ☺️

Christians: How to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory

Amazing work. Thank you very much.

The man of the battle was the high cleric Hoca Sadeddin Efendi ❤ In the second day of battle the Ottoman army appeared to have been defeated. According to the 17th Century Ottoman historian İbrahim Peçevi: "The Christians broke through the Ottoman army, but the soldiers of Islam had not yet felt the defeat." Commander Sultan Mehmed III wanted to flee from the battlefield. However, his tutor, the high cleric Hoca Sadeddin Efendi, told the Sultan that he should continue the battle till the end against the European armies to save Islamic dignity. Heeding this advice, Sultan Mehmed III ordered a full counter attack.

Great set of videos, thank you - very informative and logically set out. Where there any final casualty figures given?

It honestly baffles me how after an absolute tactical masterclass from the Christian commanders, that they managed to achieve such a massive defeat from the Jaws of victory

@TruthSeekers13

Жыл бұрын

Gold and plunder is what drives these men not god

Great content as always

thank you for this, I never knew about this part of history.

The Ottoman Sultan Probably only have 1/2/2 stats to begin with but the Christian having at leat 2/3/2 or 1/0/2 Princes. It 's indecisive battle, and very frustrating how both Armies create mistakes after mistakes that eventually all those stacks only meant huge amount casualities.

@tacidar558

Жыл бұрын

Are the stats from eu4 ?

@ggoddkkiller1342

Жыл бұрын

The worst of all it happaned because Suleiman killed his 5/4/5 son!!..

@tacidar558

Жыл бұрын

@@ggoddkkiller1342 + Siege ability 5% and National Manpower 15% skills

"O son of Adam! You Are Nothing But A Number Of Days Whenever Each Day Passes Than A Part Of you Has Gone." Hasan Al Basri

Most excellent presentation. Thank you.

Mehmet III when the Imperials start looting his camp: I'm not locked in here with you, you are locked in here with ME!

Ευχαριστούμε!

Say whatever you want, Ottomans were badass of Europe.... imagine whole Europe declaring war on you with their elite army, killing thousands, butchering everyone... and you win the battle with cooks having knives in their hands and just you being present in battlefield making Christians running for their life...... Mehmed was badass bruh!

Wow, This is a amazing battle.

First of your videos I've seen, and it was very good. I'll be watching more.

Sometimes I'm glad that looters who abandon the battle suffer defeat. What an asshole of a teammate that guy would be in the modern day.

@waltonsmith7210

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, exactly. Looting will come in time if you just fucking waaait instead of getting us killed. What good is loot to the dead?

If you are ever feeling worthless just keep calm and remember THIS actually happened.

Outstanding video. Marvelous!

Im just going to point out that whoever you are, you are a truly gifted narrator who has yet to be aptly recognised for the talent you are. I would love to hear you narrate the "Earth war stories" from the Alien franchise literature by Dark Horse comics, or better yet Robert E Howards Conan. However for now I am happy to learn of historic confrontations because your voice is so very easy on the ear. Please keep doing what you do, and I hope that one day you will be discovered for greater projects where you belong.

How to lose a battle from the jaws of victory.