Battle: 2023 Toyota Crown Platinum vs Lexus ES 300h!
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Full comparison of 2023 Lexus ES 300h vs 2023 Toyota Crown Platinum. Which parts of which car do you like best?
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Who wins Between Crown and ES 300h? What parts of each car do you like? Thanks for watching AND Subscribing! Jeff
@carlitoespo2222
Жыл бұрын
I want to see how the rear turn signals look for the crown l Crown.
@rightlanehog3151
Жыл бұрын
Jeff, I hope the people of Kentucky and Japan don't take the results too personally. 😉
@craigspowart3631
Жыл бұрын
Doing a comparison then when a plane goes overhead you start talking about that!!!! So Bush League
@deaconmichaeljoens8206
Жыл бұрын
ES hands-down, it's not even really a competition. Or the Avalon Limited, which was a far more sophisticated car than the Platinum Crown, for a lot (like 10k) less money.
@brians5650
Жыл бұрын
@@deaconmichaeljoens8206 disagree
I pick the Crown. Love the unique modern design, better placement of the heated seats/wheel buttons, nicer wheels, the way Toyota has created a ‘pod effect’ for the driver and passenger. The winning factor is the AWD. We’ve ordered a Crown Limited in Heavy Metal. Way to go Jeff! You’re a winner as well. Mal
Crown looks newer but that doesn't magically make it better. Besides having the new IT factor, the crown is underwhelming. The lexus is still sleeker and way more luxurious looking
@kwaseb
8 ай бұрын
Have you seen the Crown in person or actuality?😢 No doubt the lexus is a lexus, but the crown is not far behind
@Tosabang
3 ай бұрын
@@kwasebi agree. I test drive with both and crown looks impressed me. Looks different than others and gorgeous. But driving experience is Lexus better than crown because of 21 inch wheels. 21 vs 18 makes big difference. But if we talk about exterior i can't compare them. Crown definitely better.
@kwaseb
3 ай бұрын
@@Tosabang nice 👌🏽 👍🏾
0:32 I’m watching this from Saudi Arabia 🇸🇦 and I wish everyone would have an amazing day
Toyota needs to give the Lexus more horsepower and all-wheel-drive.
@tonysterbenc
11 ай бұрын
The '25 ES will almost certainly have the same powertrains as the Crown, and you'll get your wish, but it will lose its best feature: the buttery V6.
I would have loved the Crown if it came with a tailgate instead of a trunk. It looks like it would have a tailgate, and that would have made it so much more competitive against compact SUVs.
@lionintu
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I'll wait for them to get one with a hatch installed next generation
@mrbigdaddy74of39773
6 ай бұрын
Crown platinum all day long. The exterior on the crown and ease of dash functions and the awd/motor power. Lexus wins seat color
*I choose the Crown. The Crown has 120 hp more than the ES 300h.*
@santotraficante7500
8 ай бұрын
But the Crown still isn't really fast compared to Germans or other competitors and the lexus gets 45 MPG.
I love Toyota but I have an ES350 now and my Toyotas are like old girlfriends. My Lexus is my new squeeze. Lexus is like riding on a magic carpet in style and comfort.
Living in Tokyo I have an appreciation for the Crown lineup... I'm taking the Crown Platinum over the Lexus.
Great review, I'm currently considering both of these!
Crown by a mile! Just test drove it today. So nice 😊
Wow! What a showdown, Jeff! This is awesome because the MSRP allow you to get either vehicle for about the same money. Good stuff!
I have the 2024 crown XLE . I love this car. 1200 mile road trip went at 40mpg. It is the magnetic gray/black interior. .Price was less than the Lexus, without all the bells and whistles. Great car.
Hi Jeff, thanks for the review. I’m watching you from Vicksburg, Mississippi. I like the Crown Limited. When interest rates climb back down to reasonable levels I plan to buy one.
@Tigerwarhawk
Жыл бұрын
Monroe, LA here! I like the Crown too, but I'm sticking with my 2016 Avalon until the wheels fall off. I only have 80,000 miles on it.
G'Day Jeff, Watching you reviews here in Australia. Keep up the good work.
Loved the review! Subscribed! I'll wait for ES refresh to decide.
Watching from Boston, MA. Thanks, Jeff!
I currently have an Avalon hybrid limited with 289000 miles. Picking up a crown limited next week. The AWD is the deciding factor for me as I live in Michigan and drive for work. I wish you would have mentioned how each rides. But I'm going with the Crown.
@richardf6932
6 ай бұрын
Are you on the original hybrid battery or has it been replaced.
I was driving my belovet VW Passat R36 with its low frond bumper towards the bank to withdraw all my cash, when a ES300 Hwith road presentation zoomed past me and accidentally crushed a pair of vise grips on the road. Despite the minor incidend, I continued on my journey, enjoying the scenic views and the feeling of the wind in my hair. Thanks for reading my comment despite the fact it doesn’t have many likes.
Good day Sir! I am watching from Altanta, GA. Keep up the good work!
Watching from Kansas City. Thank you for comparing these two as I’m in the market for a car and considering one of them.
@Toyotajeff
Жыл бұрын
I’m glad to do it. I hope you like the one you were researching
Jeff, I'm trying to work here and am distracted by your old skool rap. Luv it. Great plane editing, btw. Traded in our 2021 Venza and I just got the very first 2023 Limited Crown from the dealership out of the showroom up here. Let me tell you, people are heads turning like crazy and doing the slow walk in the parking lot. This car is hands down the best car I've ever purchased. The power is great and the styling for a $ jump from the move up from XLE to Limited is worth it, but not for another $16K for turbo to Platinum and bigger wheels for me. This is just a sexy beast that works performance and style wise.
Crown is supposed to be all about tech? Cannot even get a heads up display in it.
for my next car i need to focus on the front passenger seat comfort, how do they compare? seat cushion length (my wife and I are tall) and lumbar support? adjustments. also lexus engine and running noise vs the toyota, i hear the toyota mid level hybrid is NOISY and rough, what about the lexus engine roughness and noise?
@user-kd9vj6dq5l
Жыл бұрын
New Toyota Crown does not have knee support in the seats
I have an Avalon and when I looked at the Crown at our auto show it seems like the seat position is higher like a crossover but you don't have the headroom of one. I feel like my Avalon limited with it's quilted leather seats and dark wood trim just look nicer. The Lexus is for me the pick of the two . I am hoping for AWD standard on it's redesign.
Watching from Australia, awesome review
Well here is my comments because I just purchased a Platinum Crown. We are an older couple that liked a little more luxury than the gas mileage. 1. It is Metalic Grey color and I did not like the design of biotone red / Black / Black matt or with gold instead of red. It just looks too busy and color separation looks weird. I like the black matte over semi metalic grey gloss. 2. Hybrid Max will be in the 2024 GRAND HIGHLANDER in its platinum trim model. 3. Camry, Avalon, Crown, Lexus 500h, Acura Tlx ... LEXUS???? YES, YES!! The Crown is more compared to me to the 500h but without the leather and additional $15k Price tag. The Crown looks semi cheap with the plastic in different places but adheres to everything else of an 500h. Obviously, this car is bigger than the camry, ioniq 5 and 6. Cant say it is bigger to the Grand Highlander 2024 model which uses the hybrid max too. 4. I am neither here nor there for gas. I was more directed to the adaptive suspension which the camry or other Crown trims do not have. 5. I love the TSS 3.O. The safety features are great. 6. The lights and 21 inch wheels are cool with the sunroof. 7. I bought my car with tax complete out the lot for $57k. $1500 below sticker. Overall, it is everything I can expect from a Lexus 500h and Genesis GV80 but without the price tag. 😊
Thanks for comparison 👍
@Toyotajeff
Жыл бұрын
Of course!
Clicked for the thumbnail. Then noticed the video was great so kept watching :)
@Toyotajeff
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for reinforcing that a good thumbnail can at least be a door opener for people. I can’t wait until we get to finish our collaboration.
@ToyotaWorld
Жыл бұрын
@@Toyotajeff wohoooo.
I like the Crown. I bought a new Prius XLE one month ago and love it. It’s really hard to get a new Toyota where I live now. I hope to trade my Prius in for a Crown in the next year or two.
How about the required grade of gasoline, Crown Platinum vs Lexus ES300h?
@chuckmillirons6529
Жыл бұрын
Both cars run on Regular gasoline.
Jeff, This is a fascinating comparison. 🤔The ES wins on style but the Crown wins on capability. 🤩
@Toyotajeff
Жыл бұрын
I don’t know if anybody else has done a comparison of these two cars, so I was really excited about it
@rightlanehog3151
Жыл бұрын
@@Toyotajeff I believe you are FIRST for Crown vs ES. How about a Toyota Crown vs Ford Crown Victoria?
I would like to drive the crown in the platinum grade. Love the heavy metal color. I drove the limited grade, and honestly didn’t love it. Felt like I was in a Camry hearing the engine noise. I have an Avalon now. Now, if we can get what I’d be interested in purchasing in my area.
Thanks for this video... Is this the same crown that produced in 70's and 80's? Bcoz the logo is different from those produced earlier...
@chuckmillirons6529
Жыл бұрын
The Toyota Crown name goes back to the early days of Toyota. 1950's i believe. We have not had one in the US in many decades but good to see the name back.
@AhmedMohammed-we1op
Жыл бұрын
@@chuckmillirons6529 you should own one... Believe me you would never regret... It lasts for decades...
Watching from Ghana 🇬🇭 keep up the good job
Great review, Jeff! I have to pick the Lexus ES 300h over the Crown. But there's no way I'd choose that red interior and I don't feel comfortable about 19" wheels. The Crown has a lot of pluses but those insane 21" wheels are a deal breaker. There's no way I'd go with 20" or 21" rims, they look awful and sooner or later will be damaged by road hazards. In fact I wonder if the wheels could be downgraded to 19"? I guess I'd have to look at lower trim levels that have 19" rims. Oh, I'm out here in Idaho and have followed you for about five years, Jeff. Thanks and take care.
@411sponge72
Жыл бұрын
I agree with everything you've said. I'm hoping to pick up a Lexus in a year or so
Thanks, for good reviews Jeff! I'm in Sweden driving my fourth Toyota Hybrid, a Camry (fantastic car). Before that, Auris, Prius and a Camry.
May you do some vibration test? Does adding height makes the crown more wobbly?
@tonysterbenc
11 ай бұрын
Not wobbly, but it is likely to have more "head toss" -- more side-to-side motion conveyed to the occupants over bumps. It's an unavoidable result of a taller vehicle with a higher seating position, whether sedan, SUV or pickup truck. You're simply higher up, so when the vehicle changes its tilt, you move farther.
Thank you sir for doing this comparison..was hoping someone would. One of these 2 cars is what I’m about to buy here in Lafayette, LA. Starting to look like it’s going to be the Crown. My local dealer called last week..told me has a black Crown Limited w Advanced Tech Package coming in this week..exactly the configuration I would have wanted..maybe not the color..black wouldn’t be my first choice but might end up looking pretty good. I’m 66 years old w tricky knees..thinking 15 or 20 years from now, going to appreciate the ease of getting in and out of my car! Just hope the JBL stereo system doesn’t suck on this Crown..the M L stereo on the Lexus was probably my biggest factor of going with the Lexus.
@howardsaidman6822
Жыл бұрын
We bought the Crown Platinum. We can use regular gas. We bought it because we are also older and wanted the height. Note: when you put the car into Park the drivers seat moves back to make it easier to ge out. When you push start it will move back up. The JBL system is not bad.
I really enjoyed this comparison, as many others you have done before, like the various trims of the Avalon a couple years ago. Can you do a comparison between Avalon XLE/ Crown XLE or Avalon Limited / Crown Platinum? Not just the numbers (we can read those in the brochure), but actual look and feel, and quietness, drivability, and odds-and-ends that one car has and the other doesn't (Moonroof vs panoramic fixed roof, headlight features an quality, driving and parking assist systems, HUD, sound system quality). I think that would be really interesting.
@Toyotajeff
Жыл бұрын
Hi there and thank you for the compliments. That one would be a very good comparison. It might also be very tricky to do because Avalon is really hard to find these days. Maybe at a used lot? And crown we just don’t see that many of them. But I’ll try.
@deaconmichaeljoens8206
Жыл бұрын
@@Toyotajeff Thanks. If I lived closer, I'd stop by with my Avalon (2022 XLE), but it's a bit too far to drive there from Massachusetts.
@Toyotajeff
Жыл бұрын
@@deaconmichaeljoens8206 just a long day drive :)
I just bought a Crown Platinum (red/black) and I love love love it!!
@Toyotajeff
Жыл бұрын
WOW Congrats!!!
Do both models use premium gas ?
Vancouver, BC, Canada! Love your reviews.
Hallah Got my ES300h last month and love it. It's the Ultra Luxury trim, which is what we wanted and is the highest trim for the ES hybrid. It is the Cloudburst Gray exterior with Acorn color semi-aniline leather interior. Total Installed Packages & Accessories: 1) Premium Triple-beam LED headlamps; 2) Smartacess Card Key; 3) Premium Paint; 4) Lexus Interface with 12.3-in Multimedia Touchscreen Display; 5) Ultra Luxury Package; 6) All weather floor liners and trunk mat; 7) Door edge film by 3M; 8) The Preferred Accessory Package; and 9) The Dealer added a 5-year windshield protection/replacement coverage package and tinted the driver and passenger windows. More: The three-projector design that creates an eye-catching L shape. Adding to this brilliant design, the headlamps feature LED side turn signals, as well as an Adaptive Front Lighting System6 that uses steering and speed sensors to direct the angle of low-beam illumination as the vehicle enters a curve. The Adaptive Front Lighting System monitors steering and speed with a suite of sensors and will automatically adjust the angle of your low-beam headlights to improve visibility on curved roads. Ultra Luxury extras: 1) 18-inch split-five-spoke alloy noise-reduction wheels; 2) Power rear sunshade with manual rear-door sunshades; 3) Power open/close trunk with kick sensor; 4) 12.3-inch multimedia touchscreen display 10.2-inch Head-Up Display; and 5) Intuitive Parking Assist with Auto Braking and Rear Pedestrian Detection, and Panoramic View Monitor. Averaging 43+ MPG City/Hwy driving and I had the oil and filter changed at 1,000 miles for my own peace of mind. Just For Reference: I was not going to wait one-year or 10,000 miles to have the factory installed oil & filter changed. And, I shall be changing the Oil (Liqui Moly 0W-16 Spec V) and Toyota filter every 5,000 miles from now on. Like Scotty Kilmer says, oil & filters are cheap, engines are expensive. LOL 😎
Love the channel, Jeff…San Diego
@Toyotajeff
Жыл бұрын
Hi Ted! I’ll be in San Diego area in a couple weeks :)
This guy has same reflex as me to plane 😂thanks for the review
I am watching from Miami Florida and I love your videos and I love Toyota cars but it’s hard to choose
Got my ES 300H ULTRA IN JUNE, very very quiet. Enjoy everything about it. I traded my 2016 Jaguar XJ R Sport but I do think the interior of the Jag was a little nicer. I know the LEXUS long term will be more reliable.
Is there an option for either one for 4-way lumbar? I saw 2-way lumbar on these two vehicles.
@tonysterbenc
11 ай бұрын
ES Luxury and Ultra Luxury have 4-way lumbar on the driver's side, as well as a thigh extender.
@jsfbay1
11 ай бұрын
@@tonysterbenc Thank goodness! I wonder how much more a car seat with 4-way lumbar is than the one with 2-way. I'd like to see way more vehicles with 4-way lumbar, at least for the driver.
Enjoyed your head-to-head review Jeff! I’ve tried both and was pleasantly surprised by the Crown - ride, features, and styling were all appealing. I was at Toyota for a Camry Sport test drive but snapped my neck when I saw a Crown and said “What is THAT?!” The Lexus 300h Sport was also a great ride, smoothest I’ve ever driven - probably a result of its suspension. One drawback to the Lexus is the pass-through door rather than seats that fold down, that was a disappointment and my ONLY negative. The biggest difference is the 300h is a Lexus, the Crown is still a Toyota. Although the Crown is a great addition to the Toyota lineup, it’s a well-appointed Toyota. The ES-300h is a luxury car and it feels like one. It depends what you’re in the market for, and I was after what the Lexus offers.
@RG-tx6up
Жыл бұрын
At similar price points and quality, one would begin to start looking at the cost of ownership over time. What are the auto insurance rate differences, maintenance costs, trade-in value after 5-7 years?
@devindell744
Жыл бұрын
Great considerations as well - thanks Jeff!
Watching from Brisbane Australia, we love and need Crown.
I’m watching you from Saudi Arabia and thanks for the video man! But honestly still im not sure what I chose Crown here is totally different than in the us
Holding out for the Crown Signia Wagon. Great for daily driver, long trips, and occasional camping.
hard choice but id probably want to try the crown out; looks more bolder and masculine 😁
Watching from Augusta Georgia ❤
@Toyotajeff
Жыл бұрын
Hiya Amanda!!
Do they have a household outlet?
From Singapore, where we have the most expensive cars in the world. We will not be getting the Crown as the price is pretty close to Lexus as told by my Toyota dealer, who is also the Lexus dealer.
Watching from Long Island, NY.
This dealer has a second rip off sticker. Do not pay this, find a dealer who will sell at MSRP.
Lexus all day, better ride quality differentiate it from Toyota, yea the Crown is newer and all, but when going over bumps and road trips, it can’t beat Lexus
Greetings from Long Island, NY, Jeff...not too stretchy lol
Watching from Aurora, Colorado!
The ES is the better car but the crown is easier to get into. Southern Ohio is where I’m at and I recommend if a person wants a crown get the XLE non turbo.
The Avalon is dead. The crown is next on the list. Hell no people gonna spend 55k for Toyota crown. It’s look horrible at the rear end.
@hermanssewagudd5122
Жыл бұрын
Watching from Kampala Uganda
Is Toyota Crown Suv available in USA?
@Toyotajeff
Жыл бұрын
No not yet. Hopefully sometime soon
V good comparison, nice n detailed I am desperately waiting for Grand highlander2024 detailed review because i am thinking to buy n if u can help me out with that.i lts great.
@Toyotajeff
Жыл бұрын
Grand Highlander is predicted out this summer, which could mean fall time. I’ve done several reviews of it on my ToyotaJeff Reviews channel here
@The72Rabbit
Жыл бұрын
FYI. - Grand Highlander is using the same MAX hybrid. Not sure there will be much difference to the crown other than maybe more weight.
Watching the video from Oman Keep the good work
Lexus name is bigger and better… but I don’t know why I am more attracted to Crown.. but when it cames to price they both are almost same so if I need to choose objectively Lexus is better choice for the longevity
I have a '22 ES hybrid, this will be good...
I love your energy in this video. I’m from Florida. The crown is a lovely vehicle, i been in one due to my cousin owning one. I personally am a Lexus enthusiast so I must pick the es😂
Watching from Kuala Lumpur Malaysia 🇲🇾
Watching from Dallas, Texas
I’m actually going to get a better deal on a ‘23 Lexus ES 350 Ultra Luxury with all options than I could get with the Crown since dealers are adding thousands of $$$ to the MSRP of the Crown while Lexus dealers are taking OFF $$$ from the MSRP of the ES models since they have plenty in stock.
@Myshcan
Жыл бұрын
Here in Northern California the trend seems to be to discount the ES 350 below MSRP (~$2.5K) and to adjust the ES 300h hybrid over MSRP (no adjustment to $4K adjustment). I have seen Crown adjustments from $5K to $10K over MSRP. That's just anecdotal evidence, not a reliable survey.
@jml9550
Жыл бұрын
@@Myshcan yep. In the whole CA seems like hybrids are in high demand. I was not able to locate any Lexus NX hybrid base trim in north CA without markup or 6-9 months wait. Finally locate one in south CA with the exact color and trim, put a deposit in and reserved it, arriving in April. Family and I gonna fly down, take a short vacation and drive back. 😊
@Myshcan
Жыл бұрын
@@jml9550 Nice catch on the NX. In researching, it seems to be an excellent vehicle. I looked at one and they wanted a $7K markup. However, my wife had trouble getting in and out of it, so we went with the ES.
@jml9550
Жыл бұрын
@@Myshcan Yeah got lucky on that S. Cal NX hybrid. I told the S. Cal salesperson that I will not pay a dime over MSRP nor any add ons, I was surprised that his manager agreed. Previously I already had a deposit with an N. cal dealer but the car is nowhere in site and the salesperson doesn’t even know when the next allocation is. Funny my wife is the opposite, she doesn’t like getting in and out of my 2017 ES350. Maybe she is used to her current 08 RX350, which will be my son’s first car once he gets his license in a few months.
@Myshcan
Жыл бұрын
@@jml9550 Good deal in these times to get one at MSRP. I also put in an order that didn't materialize and wound up buying out of town, but only an hour's drive away. Must be a fairly typical scenario these days. Anyway, as you demonstrated, it pays to shop around. Those cars at MSRP can be found.
Crown all day long. So cool, unique, and rare. Lexus ES' are all over the place here in LA.
Love the crown from Taiwan. The price range of the crowns is US$ 63K to 73K here.
@brians5650
Жыл бұрын
😳
@tonysterbenc
11 ай бұрын
Worth mentioning that the Crown name is applied to 4 different cars. One of them, not sold here, is the expensively built successor to the old Lexus GS. The one sold here is made from cheaper parts.
I traded a 2020 Avalon Limited hybrid for a 23 ES350 Ultra Luxury. MSRP was$55380. Same money as a platinum Crown, which has no HUD, or power tilt/telescope wheel. I have driven a Crown. The Lexus interior is far superior to the Crown, and is much quieter. Also the Mark Levinson sound system, is heads and tails what’s in the Crown. Also Lexis warranty is longer than Toyota. To me, it was an easy choice. The Lexus.
@kwaseb
8 ай бұрын
What a bummer 😢. I am surprised the crown lacks the aforementioned. Quite ridiculous if you asked me
That crown will get a humiliating beat down from the Lexus build quality and all of its features did it have a Mark Lev in it also!? oh my gosh and the same money almost? guess which way I would go lol
@davevolz6138
Жыл бұрын
Does it drive tinny and hollow?
For Lexus, the F Sport would not be the one I would use to compare with the Crown. Lexus was not designed for performance. It is for luxury and comfort. If you want performance, buy a BMW, Benz or Audi. Turbos give you more things to break down over time, and a non-Hybrid Lexus (ES 350), while worse for gas mileage, is simpler and thus easier to maintain in the long run.
Thanks Jeff , Please ask Toyota to push back the head rest in their cars a bit. Seems they are doing them for hunchbacks!
You failed to mention that there are differences in the Ultra luxury lexus 300h than that f sport. Also you cant compare the higher horespower crown to the Lexus hybris. Compare the crown limited to the es300h so it would be apples to apples.
Can you do the 2023 KIA EV6 or GT VS. Toyota Crown
Hi Jeff, I am watching your video from Mexico city, I own the ES Lexus.
From Taiwan 🇹🇼, Nice Video JEFF👍👍👍
Jeff, will you do a review of the 2023 Crown Limited VS. the 2023 Venza Limited with driving impressions Please?
Watching from Murrieta, Ca.
Why is AWD so important to some people. I can understand if you live in the snow belt but in most of America it isn’t needed. In fact if you want to have a more sporty and fun car to drive , RWD is the way to go.
55K that’s insane you can get for this money Highlander hybrid family SUV or Tesla model Y
no driving impression?
I'm watching your video from Taiwan ! 👍
I’m watching from Glynco, GA
Hello... I'm watching from Sweden!!!!👍👍👍👍
Great interview,Jeff fm Taiwan
I'm watching you from Houston TX
Haines,Alaska Jeff. All the best. I'll take the Crown made by Lexus. I like the look of the Crown, AWD !, but the interior is bland. I don't much like the interior colors of the Lexus,either but the guts of the 300h (tech) works for me. ( like the HP of the Crown does. Guess I want it all.
i love this review
Watching in the UK
I'm watching you from Orlando Florida. Hollaaaa......😂😂😂
@Toyotajeff
Жыл бұрын
Hollaaaaaa Abigail!!
Thanks for this review. I was at the Chicago auto show in February and was trying to compare the Crown to the Lexus. After watching your video, I prefer the looks of the crown. I could do without the gloss black panels on the sides, the matte black trim aound the bottom and wheels and I wish the moonroof wasn't fixed.
@brucebeamon5460
Жыл бұрын
Big mistake with the FIXED roof enough for me to pass on the crown !
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Watching from the UAE 🇦🇪