BATTERY POWER - Does a Bigger Battery Have More Power? We Find Out!

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We use the ‪@MilwaukeeTool‬ M12 FUEL right angle impact to see if changing to an XC 4.0 and 6.0 Ah battery will also increase power. You must see these results.
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  • @sixtyfiveford
    @sixtyfiveford3 жыл бұрын

    The simple reason is the larger capacity keeps the voltage higher for longer. The M12 is full at 12.5volts and dead around 9volts. Just tightening the fasteners in the video the 4.0ah dropped 2 dots and then rebounded to 1 dot loss. This means it's voltage had dropped to around 10.8(2dots)-11.4volts(3dots). The 6.0ah lost no bars so we can assume the cell voltages were still around 4volts/12v total. In my personal testing the tools have around half the power and the no load rpm is halved when they are low/dead vs a full charge. So you could assume each dot lose is around a 12.5% Power reduction.

  • @Shoptoolreviews

    @Shoptoolreviews

    3 жыл бұрын

    You're right on with our testing. We're not noticing much of a power drop when dropping to 3 dots, but it's definitely noticeable at the 50% mark. Thanks for the input.

  • @NightshiftCustom

    @NightshiftCustom

    3 жыл бұрын

    in the end your still getting more power to the nut and that's what matters!

  • @439530

    @439530

    3 жыл бұрын

    A lot of manufacturers will reduce voltage to maximize run times. The true power of the right angle shows while using the 6.0 battery but the 6.0 is not actually a stronger battery it just has a higher storage capacity. My Flex brand cordless 3” mini polisher as well as my 5” polisher are very efficient when using the smaller 2.0 amp battery and feel underpowered. But, when I put in the biggest battery, the speed and torque jump.

  • @johnserrano9689

    @johnserrano9689

    2 жыл бұрын

    You're not right at all. Your numbers are way off and you're pushing you opinion too hard, stop being so disrespectful.....an go buy a nice GM 😜

  • @saiiiiiii1
    @saiiiiiii13 жыл бұрын

    Love the torque numbers displayed on screen. Keep up the amazing reviews 👍👍

  • @rickybobbyracing9106
    @rickybobbyracing91062 жыл бұрын

    I came here looking for this, and got exactly this, no BS. Great video!

  • @josephjoseph819
    @josephjoseph8193 жыл бұрын

    I have had a couple of times that my m18 impact wouldn't get a logout loose so I took the 9.0 battery out and put the 12.0 battery in. The power increase is usually just enough to get the nut loose. You can definitely tell a huge difference in performance with the difference size battery in certain applications.

  • @fight4ourright306
    @fight4ourright3062 жыл бұрын

    Solid test video. Thanks bud just the kind of info I was looking for.

  • @vikkleo
    @vikkleo3 жыл бұрын

    I love how much power these tools can handle just love it

  • @shanew7361

    @shanew7361

    3 жыл бұрын

    What she said 🤩

  • @Shoptoolreviews

    @Shoptoolreviews

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad you like it. Thanks for watching.

  • @kswis
    @kswis2 жыл бұрын

    I think miluakee making a right angle impact in such a small package is awesome. AVE pulled this apart, the way the parts are organized is very inovative. And breaks away 350+ ftlbs? Not bad at all

  • @giovanysantiago5892
    @giovanysantiago58923 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this review, love your channel. Now Milwaukee right angle impact with the 6AH battery vs Kobalt right angle that would be a good one.

  • @Shoptoolreviews

    @Shoptoolreviews

    3 жыл бұрын

    I appreciate that. We will see what we can do for the head-to-head. Thanks for watching.

  • @mr._.gallardo
    @mr._.gallardo3 жыл бұрын

    As me being a mechanic as soon as I got this tool I put the biggest battery (6.0) just because I thought it would help loosen bolts. Glad you actually proved it for me lol

  • @Volksoner619

    @Volksoner619

    3 жыл бұрын

    I have the 3/8 I use daily for suspension builds. Paired with a breaker bar I can build 3 Jeep’s a day on one 6.0 battery.

  • @Shoptoolreviews

    @Shoptoolreviews

    3 жыл бұрын

    Awesome! So glad it's working for you. Thanks for watching.

  • @MrAndresm900

    @MrAndresm900

    2 жыл бұрын

    so is the 4.0 better?

  • @lilpelusa
    @lilpelusa2 жыл бұрын

    I have the M12 Left angle 3/8 impact wrench. As well as the hammer drill and impact drill. M18 impact screw gun and hammer drill. M18 1/2” impact gun with all kinds of batteries for each. But that M12 works wonders. Definitely recommend it.

  • @TorqueTestChannel
    @TorqueTestChannel3 жыл бұрын

    We've been testing the M18 3.0 vs 5.0 vs 6.0 vs 12.0Ah's on larger impacts for our channel and have noticed increases from the XC series batteries but nothing if not a loss on the HD so far.

  • @stockton209ent

    @stockton209ent

    3 жыл бұрын

    What?

  • @TorqueTestChannel

    @TorqueTestChannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@stockton209ent Milwaukee makes 3 different types of battery lines. CP, XC and HD. Which features different numbers of cells and cell sizes. Some are supposed to increase run time, others power and run time.

  • @stockton209ent

    @stockton209ent

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TorqueTestChannel wich would be best in your opinion for my m18 compact wrench , for the most power. Thanks for the time in advance

  • @TorqueTestChannel

    @TorqueTestChannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@stockton209ent We just tested that one. So far the XC 5.0 and XC 6.0 work best for power.

  • @stockton209ent

    @stockton209ent

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TorqueTestChannel nice thanks have a blessed day

  • @corwininadsm
    @corwininadsm3 жыл бұрын

    Great comparison, I've always noticed a huge difference especally if compared as a kit as they always come with cheap (low AH) batteries.

  • @Shoptoolreviews

    @Shoptoolreviews

    3 жыл бұрын

    Exactly! Thanks for watching.

  • @ryanotis
    @ryanotis3 жыл бұрын

    Great test. I really expected the 4.0 and 6.0 to be closer due to the common cell layout. Can’t argue with real data!

  • @Shoptoolreviews

    @Shoptoolreviews

    3 жыл бұрын

    We agree, we were surprised at this as well. Actually, we anticipated it on this test, but we were surprised when we did this with the M12 Stubby impact. Thanks for watching.

  • @legros731

    @legros731

    3 жыл бұрын

    The 6.0 can keep the voltage higher for longer this is why it give more power Notice the 4.0 was at 2 bar and recovered to 3 bar but the 6.0 was still at 4 bar at the end of the test

  • @carsonbowen3491
    @carsonbowen3491 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much for this video!

  • @joebrown9621
    @joebrown96213 жыл бұрын

    The 2.0 battery does drop off quite abit after or at 50% even in my racket i can notice it.. great review and testing.. you have made new subscriber 😎👍

  • @Shoptoolreviews

    @Shoptoolreviews

    3 жыл бұрын

    Cool, thank you very much, and thanks for watching.

  • @JamesTPzRoC
    @JamesTPzRoC3 жыл бұрын

    The XC 4.0 did move the nut at 7:07, but stopped right before taking it off. Thats why the XC 6.0 lose the nut so easily the first try.

  • @danfarbrace6308
    @danfarbrace63083 жыл бұрын

    Yes!! Been looking forward to this one!

  • @Shoptoolreviews

    @Shoptoolreviews

    3 жыл бұрын

    Enjoy! I hope it answers your questions. Thanks for watching.

  • @danfarbrace6308

    @danfarbrace6308

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Shoptoolreviews definately. 350 ft-lbs with the 6.0 vs 220 ft-lbs with the 2.0 is amazing. Definately going to pick one of these up. Thanks for running the test.

  • @AL_Lopez_101
    @AL_Lopez_1013 жыл бұрын

    Love your channel. Make me want to buy impact wrenches.

  • @Shoptoolreviews

    @Shoptoolreviews

    3 жыл бұрын

    We're sorry, or maybe we're not. Thanks for watching.

  • @babydyke416
    @babydyke4163 жыл бұрын

    Great video!! Thanks!!

  • @Shoptoolreviews

    @Shoptoolreviews

    3 жыл бұрын

    You're welcome! Thanks for watching.

  • @kcmaxiumx
    @kcmaxiumx6 ай бұрын

    The M12 line is a wonderful line of specialty tools

  • @yourlocalalexis4578
    @yourlocalalexis45783 жыл бұрын

    I should have waited for this test, as i ended up buying a 1/2" milwaukee impact to take out a crank bolt, lol!!

  • @Shoptoolreviews

    @Shoptoolreviews

    3 жыл бұрын

    You can't go wrong with that. Thanks for watching.

  • @MiamiBomber

    @MiamiBomber

    2 жыл бұрын

    A smart idea to atleast have a 3/8 and 1/2 impact. I use my 1/2 to remove lug nuts and axle nuts w/o depinning them

  • @franky5p0
    @franky5p03 жыл бұрын

    Picked mine up today exited to slap on the 6.0 and give it a try

  • @Shoptoolreviews

    @Shoptoolreviews

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's awesome. Let us know what you think. Thanks for watching.

  • @thetransitofvenus8927
    @thetransitofvenus89273 жыл бұрын

    Fantastik video!!!! Really appreciate ya!!!

  • @Shoptoolreviews

    @Shoptoolreviews

    3 жыл бұрын

    Much appreciated! Thanks for watching.

  • @yorselrus1996
    @yorselrus19963 жыл бұрын

    I love your fair comprehensive testing. Have you tried testing tool using left hand threads?

  • @Shoptoolreviews

    @Shoptoolreviews

    3 жыл бұрын

    We have not tried on left-hand threads. Thanks for watching.

  • @btqy

    @btqy

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Shoptoolreviews URGENT: You had the tool on TIGHTEN @400lbs. @09:33 the button is up.

  • @kartboarder22g17
    @kartboarder22g173 жыл бұрын

    Awesome, thanks. Could you do this with the M18 3.0 HO, 6.0 HO and 8.0 HO? Maybe use the stubby or the mid torque? Probably stubby as you are maxing out the fasteners.

  • @Shoptoolreviews

    @Shoptoolreviews

    3 жыл бұрын

    We'll be doing this soon. Thanks for watching.

  • @kartboarder22g17

    @kartboarder22g17

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Shoptoolreviews no thank you.

  • @joshuathomas2965
    @joshuathomas29653 жыл бұрын

    thanks Bill!!

  • @Shoptoolreviews

    @Shoptoolreviews

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sure, I'll answer to anything. Thanks for watching.

  • @blackjackfloat8088
    @blackjackfloat80883 жыл бұрын

    Herm I have the stumpy and the m12 ratchet, I am.not feeling the side impacts, nice video thankyou .

  • @Shoptoolreviews

    @Shoptoolreviews

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching.

  • @Jarco101
    @Jarco1012 жыл бұрын

    Since I am mostly on Dewalt and Makita platforms I only own 3 M12 tools and 2 batteries. Really considering this tool to ad to my work collection

  • @ChrisBranleh
    @ChrisBranleh Жыл бұрын

    Its two years later and now that the high output batteries are out, is there any chance an update video can be made to see the difference in output and nut busting torque? Thanks :)

  • @CivicCity18
    @CivicCity18 Жыл бұрын

    i looked through the comments quick didnt see this mentioned but the last test at 400 was done with the gun in the tightening setting

  • @Shoptoolreviews

    @Shoptoolreviews

    Жыл бұрын

    That may have been the case, but we run these tests multiple times before filming. We verify and validate our results before publishing. Thanks for watching.

  • @GhettoFabulous670
    @GhettoFabulous6703 жыл бұрын

    I notice those flex head ratcheting wrenches behind you. I just recently ordered a set on ebay, it was like 39 bucks with that black/orange bag, very similar to tekton. Could you do a review on those as well? If their worth the money and quality?

  • @seansfc
    @seansfc2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you

  • @sageof6paths1
    @sageof6paths13 жыл бұрын

    This test was actually the determining factor for me to pick this up. Honestly, I was hesitant to buy it. Thank you so much for posting and taking the time to make this video.

  • @Shoptoolreviews

    @Shoptoolreviews

    3 жыл бұрын

    Great to hear! Thanks for reaching out and letting us know. Please let us know what you think of it. Thanks for watching.

  • @btqy

    @btqy

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Shoptoolreviews URGENT: You had the tool on TIGHTEN @400lbs. @09:33 the button is up.

  • @TeeDub96

    @TeeDub96

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@btqy great catch!!

  • @SlawKingOG

    @SlawKingOG

    Ай бұрын

    @@btqy Holy smoke you are correct.

  • @Fee.1
    @Fee.13 жыл бұрын

    Did you ever make that video explaining your torque gun and how it works etc ?

  • @Shoptoolreviews

    @Shoptoolreviews

    3 жыл бұрын

    HYTORC Lion Gun. We reviewed them and the link is below. Thanks for watching. kzread.info/dash/bejne/q3WAqM2DqpPPg9Y.html

  • @Jtwizzle
    @Jtwizzle3 жыл бұрын

    Awesome testing! I wonder if the 9ah knockoff waitley m12 batteries would do any better.

  • @Shoptoolreviews

    @Shoptoolreviews

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm not sure if we'll do any knockoff batteries. Thanks for watching.

  • @javierarellano7444
    @javierarellano7444 Жыл бұрын

    Based on your experience how long do you think the 6.0 would run on the Milwaukee 12v rotary polisher? Medium to high mode

  • @Atum_Ra
    @Atum_Ra2 жыл бұрын

    When Milwaukee came up with Fuel "Find Ultimate Energy Levels" they obviously meant it. In some cases your basically upgrading your tool to the latest and greatest most powerfulist bestest thing out just by upgrading the battery and they're going to keep doing that the indefinitely. I wouldn't doubt if they have a High Output Gen 2 & 3 for both M12 & M18 within a few years that makes the same tools even stronger. I just wish they could make them alot lighter in the process.

  • @marius.n-m
    @marius.n-m Жыл бұрын

    can you take the same type of test with high output batteries? some people say its a different fromt 4 to 6. and some say its no different.

  • @jmjm003
    @jmjm0032 жыл бұрын

    Your last test with the 6ah battery at 400 you were tightening. You snugged it first then torqued it and never switched back to loosen.

  • @blower1
    @blower13 жыл бұрын

    Good channel this....i like it!

  • @Shoptoolreviews

    @Shoptoolreviews

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much.

  • @mfetzer1
    @mfetzer13 жыл бұрын

    Just amazing for a 12 volt tool!!

  • @Shoptoolreviews

    @Shoptoolreviews

    3 жыл бұрын

    And the XC 6.0 really wakes it up too. Thanks for watching.

  • @NightshiftCustom

    @NightshiftCustom

    3 жыл бұрын

    i love the m12 lineup always grab it before the m18's lol

  • @millcitychris4303
    @millcitychris43033 жыл бұрын

    Awesome videos

  • @Shoptoolreviews

    @Shoptoolreviews

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad you like them! Thanks for watching.

  • @michaelvanna8982
    @michaelvanna89822 жыл бұрын

    Love Milwaukee all the way..thanks for showing these analysis. Do you even support Milwaukee Bucks NBA Team? oh well, lessen your support so most consumers dreamin having your product can afford them and you increase more sales. Barely see any discounts from you guys☕♥️

  • @Tain950
    @Tain9502 жыл бұрын

    Does the M12 angle impact have any competitors from other companies. Has anyone been able to come out with a stronger machine for tight spaces.

  • @alanw5812
    @alanw58123 жыл бұрын

    I have 2.0 and 4.0, tried before, used 2.0 can't loose, the 4.0 can, after that day always use 4.0 on the impact gun and I like it can stand

  • @Shoptoolreviews

    @Shoptoolreviews

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes, this is a much better tool with the 4.0 or 6.0 battery. Thanks for watching.

  • @ttstang43
    @ttstang433 жыл бұрын

    I have found the best use imo for the right angle with i believe a 4.0 ah battery which i use, this is my personal use of course.. for accessory drive pulleys, alternators etc, where i find you need more power then a ratchet, mainly for the initial hit.. works as i want it to. does it need a 4 ah battery for it no but it lasts longer..oh yea.. so i have the blue point version of the right angle... absolutely love the tool, did i replace it no, do i use it as much, nope.. not because its not a valuable but because im not a fan of air hoses lol

  • @Shoptoolreviews

    @Shoptoolreviews

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's a great combo. Thanks for watching.

  • @dummkompf
    @dummkompf3 жыл бұрын

    the 6.0 did too get the 400 ft lbs. That wasn't cheating! I think the 4.0 could've gotten the 350 too if you had given it more time or tried again on a full charge. perhaps, rattling on it for a while and then letting the battery cool down before trying again also helps. I think a lot of these tests are inaccurate because people give up too soon

  • @minnesotaman3
    @minnesotaman33 жыл бұрын

    what is that tool that you use to torque the bolts to a certain footpound ive watched many of your videos and have always been curious

  • @patrickkettner8216

    @patrickkettner8216

    3 жыл бұрын

    Pls say the name of the tool to torque the bolts greatzz from germany

  • @WestCoastShredders

    @WestCoastShredders

    3 жыл бұрын

    no that is called a 'torque wrench' those are manual tools. There is a battery powered version but it is $5,000

  • @Shoptoolreviews

    @Shoptoolreviews

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's called the HYTORC Lion Torque Gun. Link is below to our review. Thanks for watching. kzread.info/dash/bejne/q3WAqM2DqpPPg9Y.html

  • @tylerhall71
    @tylerhall713 жыл бұрын

    You should a comparison between the 1/2 and 3/8 versions of this tool, see how much, if any, torque you lose by going with the 3/8 drive instead of the 1/2

  • @Shoptoolreviews

    @Shoptoolreviews

    3 жыл бұрын

    We could do that, and I imagine it would almost be undetectable. Thanks for watching.

  • @Alucard-gt1zf

    @Alucard-gt1zf

    3 жыл бұрын

    They are the same except the anvil

  • @javierortega8024

    @javierortega8024

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@Shoptoolreviewssería muy interesante ver en pruebas las dos al mismo tiempo, tal cual lo hiciste con las llaves de impacto 2854-20 de 3/8 milwaukee, la cual demostro mejor desempeño que la 2855-20. De 1/2. . Vi un video de TORQUE CHANEL, Y SE DESCUBRIO QYE TRABAJO MEJOR LA LLAVE DE IMPACTO 2564-20

  • @mattworacker5270
    @mattworacker52703 жыл бұрын

    Be good to see if the 9ah Waitley battery comes out on top because it has another 3 18650's over the genuine 6ah, Less voltage drop, more power under load possibly?

  • @Shoptoolreviews

    @Shoptoolreviews

    3 жыл бұрын

    Probably less power drop off from the battery dropping voltage, but I doubt that it delivers more power. Thanks for watching.

  • @DiligentDave1966
    @DiligentDave1966 Жыл бұрын

    In most, but not all cases, the 6 amp battery makes a difference. The biggest difference is the run time. When I was using my set a lot, I found that I had to recharge the 2.0 more often than I wanted to. Not only was it an inconvenience, but it also lowers the life of the battery.

  • @lukeromanoski4404
    @lukeromanoski44043 жыл бұрын

    "Abused for months" *tool looks brand new*

  • @Shoptoolreviews

    @Shoptoolreviews

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hey, some of us get the easier jobs. lol. Just kidding, this is in the toolbox of a first-year mechanic, but it does get used all the time. Thanks for watching.

  • @MrGabrielallon
    @MrGabrielallon Жыл бұрын

    I used kzread.infoUgkx4ynqaujg7rZKFapA8s29kTpRszJGa3-K this for the first time today to replace the front wheel bearing on my rwd 98 dodge dakota. This had absolutely no issue removing or reinstalling the lug nuts and it took off the axle nut without any struggle. Sounds like it's got some muscle to it. Time will tell

  • @EliminatorPerformance
    @EliminatorPerformance2 жыл бұрын

    Hey brother good video, I definitely can tell a difference when using the 6.0 over the 4.0 on my other M12 products. My question is, when removing the fasteners, I understood that speed 4 gives you additional break away torque and then slows down after. "A new 4-mode drive control includes three (3) speeds, plus a bolt-removal mode. This new mode will deliver all the power to the fastener until it breaks free, then the tool will back down to only 750 RPM." Just to clarify, speed 3 and 4 provide the same break away torque, with the only difference being the auto slow down on speed 4?

  • @Shoptoolreviews

    @Shoptoolreviews

    2 жыл бұрын

    You are correct about mode 4. It doesn't have anymore power than 3. It just has the Auto mode. Thanks for watching.

  • @AndrewMcSpadden
    @AndrewMcSpadden Жыл бұрын

    Does the 3/8" work as well as this 1/2"?

  • @SnD340
    @SnD3403 жыл бұрын

    Love and want this tool but cannot pull the trigger. Truly just can't justify needing this lol, can only think of just wanting it

  • @Shoptoolreviews

    @Shoptoolreviews

    3 жыл бұрын

    We know what you mean. It's very handy to have. Thanks for watching.

  • @barrysuss4421
    @barrysuss4421 Жыл бұрын

    What ft-lbs are rusted suspension bolts typically? 200, 400, 800, more?

  • @jmackinjersey1
    @jmackinjersey13 жыл бұрын

    This subject has been covered by the engineers at Milwaukee, and a few others. It does not increase the power of the tool, it merely allows the tool to work at its peak performance for a longer duration. No, not just allows the tool to work longer, but the tool actually holds its peak performance longer. If you have more cells spinning the motor, then the motor will spin at its peak speed longer. Think of it like having one guy (12v 1Ah) lifting a log over his head and moving it ten feet. But if you add two more guys (12v 3Ah) that are the same size, then those three guys can lift and carry the log easier because you are evenly distributing the work load, and they can work at that intensity longer as well as longer throughout the day. But if you were to replace those three guys, but those three new guys were power lifters (18V 3Ah) then they can now lift heavier logs even easier than the first trio, or lift the same size log even easier than the first trio. The only way to actually increase the power output of the battery is to add move Volts. 12 vs 18 vs 24 etc., etc. Plus, holding the trigger for long periods is actually decreasing the performance of the impact, instead of pulling, holding a few strikes, releasing and repeating. That is why the tool was able to release/remove the same nut that it had previously been "Stuck" on. There is more impact performance on the first couple of hits. That also allows the battery to last a bit longer.

  • @Shoptoolreviews

    @Shoptoolreviews

    3 жыл бұрын

    Your assumption is somewhat true, but not reality. We've had these discussions with multiple Milwaukee engineers, at Milwaukee headquarters. Battery engineers would say one thing (much like what you're mentioning), and Tool engineers would say another, agreeing with us, that real-world testing showed significant gains with different batteries. Yes, I agree that the larger Ah batteries will keep the peak-performance longer, but the larger batteries are also delivering more energy, period. Take the M12 Stubby or the Right Angle, use it with a 2.0 battery, then use it with a 4.0 or 6.0 battery. The gains not only show on paper, but you can feel it and hear it. You have to look at the rate of discharge of the battery, or Max-Amp output. RC cars are better examples of this, you can have a 40A or 100A output battery, both the same voltages, but the 100A output will deliver much better performance. Thanks for watching.

  • @jmackinjersey1

    @jmackinjersey1

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Shoptoolreviews Physics and the laws of energy, followed by engineers, state such that you can only deliver as much energy as you have stored/available. You can only get a gallon of water out of a gallon bucket, and you can only get 12V of energy out of a 12v battery. As we have both stated, the engineers that design and build these batteries have stated the same thing. Now, technology has allowed us to be able to extract 95% of that stored energy, which is way more than they were able to do ten, or even as recent as 3 years ago. I say 95%, because there is still some sort of technology that will allow us to extract a little more out of the next iteration of battery. Examples being Red Lithium, XC, Heavy Duty XC, M12/18 VS. FUEL etc., etc.

  • @jmackinjersey1

    @jmackinjersey1

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@adrianl7604 I did.

  • @jerth

    @jerth

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jmackinjersey1 Sorry but you are mistaken. The voltage isn't the only factor when it comes to power output. Every brand and line of lithium cell from manufacturers like Panasonic or Samsung has its own different C rating which is the charge/discharge current of the cell. A higher C rating on higher quality cells allows the battery to discharge more current at whatever voltage its chemistry supports. Voltage multiplied by current gives you total POWER in watts, which is what the tool sees and what you feel. The way C ratings work is actually a function of cell capacity - it's current draw related to capacity, thus higher quality, higher capacity cells often have the capability to deliver more current (not always, some cells are designed with low C ratings as a trade-off for other parameters). You can not simply take the voltage and judge power based on that - that is foolish, just think of a welder pushing 300 amps at 10 volts, that's more total power than a table saw at only 0.08x the voltage. You are correct that as a cell draws down and its voltage drops, total power drops. BUT you are entirely incorrect in assuming that two batteries of equal voltage must have equal peak power output, or that power output is strictly related to voltage. One 12v battery can have a vastly different power output than another 12v battery, simply by choice in cells.

  • @brucespurier7535

    @brucespurier7535

    2 жыл бұрын

    ​Jeremiah Mckenna.....Yet you SAW that the higher capacity batteries actually DID provide more power. But you stick to your belief that it can't possibly be so. Some people can never admit there may be more to the story than they know. Good explanation provided by jeremy h.

  • @javierortega8024
    @javierortega80249 ай бұрын

    Tim ,ya hiciste una prueba entre la llave de impacto 2565-20 Y la llave 2564-20 para descubrir cual de las dos te brinda mayor cap. De torque al trabajar con ellas???? Sería interesante verlas trabajar con las baterias de 6A ???

  • @weduhpeople8504
    @weduhpeople85043 жыл бұрын

    I’m now second guessing the purchase of the Kobalt 24v right angle impact. I just don’t like the plastic housing around the anvil. Plus I had to invest in a new platform having to buy a charger and two extra batteries when I already have several m12 batteries in different amp power hour levels.

  • @Shoptoolreviews

    @Shoptoolreviews

    3 жыл бұрын

    The Kobalt 24v right angle impact is a strong contender as well, you should be happy with that. Thanks for watching.

  • @johnbielenda7336

    @johnbielenda7336

    2 жыл бұрын

    180ft-lbs on the Kobalt angle.

  • @jcampezzi1027

    @jcampezzi1027

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@johnbielenda7336 They did a test .It broke 300 EZ.

  • @mark120371

    @mark120371

    2 жыл бұрын

    If you are looking for burt force I think the Kobalt still wins. But the Milwaukee is the more intelligent tool, a smarter design. It can slow when running fasteners back on. I have both. If you simply want brute force the Kobalt is oustanding even more so with the Ultimate Output batteries with the 21700 cells. But the Milwaukee is the better all around tool and as seen here the 4ah and 6ah do make a difference in the power of the Milwaukee, however I think the Kobalt still will out run it in the power department. It is like a Dodge HellCat (Kobalt) vs. A Chevy C8 Corvette.

  • @Ruminations1from2Connecticut
    @Ruminations1from2Connecticut2 жыл бұрын

    Is in a sense a surge, different capacitors etc in an m12 body jimmy rigged to 6.0 source

  • @Clearanceman2
    @Clearanceman2 Жыл бұрын

    I'm using standard batteries and mine is definitely not 225 pounds so I'm exited to see if the red lithium high output would make a difference.

  • @Shoptoolreviews

    @Shoptoolreviews

    Жыл бұрын

    No doubt, the 4.0, 5.0, and 6.0 M12 batteries will make a difference with these right angle impact. Thanks for watching.

  • @williambohon3093
    @williambohon30933 жыл бұрын

    does the 3/8 inch version have the same amount of breakaway torque or close to it. I am debating on which to buy.

  • @Shoptoolreviews

    @Shoptoolreviews

    3 жыл бұрын

    I believe it's the same amount. Thanks for watching.

  • @williambohon3093

    @williambohon3093

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Shoptoolreviews I know it is rated the same , was just wondering is it really the same.

  • @Davidsmith-mc2no
    @Davidsmith-mc2no Жыл бұрын

    What about the 5.0 high output

  • @leerob2403
    @leerob2403 Жыл бұрын

    Im interested to see what the new HO M12s would do

  • @CKBrutus
    @CKBrutus3 жыл бұрын

    Time to buy some XC 6.0 batteries

  • @Shoptoolreviews

    @Shoptoolreviews

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sorry to incur more costs for you. lol. Thanks for watching.

  • @vikkleo

    @vikkleo

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yup just purchased mine yesterday extremely happy with the upgrade

  • @dumdiversaspapalbull1452
    @dumdiversaspapalbull14522 жыл бұрын

    Why won’t Milwaukee put this setup in a right angle drill format? Maan. I could really use that in my tool bag.

  • @Jtwizzle
    @Jtwizzle3 жыл бұрын

    Would like to see some high output m12 battery/tools.. that would be interesting. Fitting 3 21700 cells in the grip would probably be impossible though.

  • @minnesotaman3

    @minnesotaman3

    3 жыл бұрын

    right would love to see milwaukee bring out a m12 12 ah high output battery or even an 8

  • @Shoptoolreviews

    @Shoptoolreviews

    3 жыл бұрын

    We'll see what we can do. ;) Thanks for watching.

  • @NightshiftCustom

    @NightshiftCustom

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@minnesotaman3 there is 9AH knock offs online

  • @Dotz155
    @Dotz1553 жыл бұрын

    Did it get faster results as well as more power or just more power?

  • @Shoptoolreviews

    @Shoptoolreviews

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not sure if it's faster, but definitely more power. Thanks for watching.

  • @thecarproconnoisseur5412
    @thecarproconnoisseur54122 жыл бұрын

    There ya go

  • @dmansigian724
    @dmansigian7243 жыл бұрын

    I was under the impression that you got the most nut busting torque in the auto setting (in reverse obviously)

  • @Shoptoolreviews

    @Shoptoolreviews

    3 жыл бұрын

    Auto still delivers 100% breakaway force, initially, but Speed 3 delivers 100% breakaway force all the time. We don't like to test in Auto mode. Thanks for watching.

  • @fasteddie8225
    @fasteddie82253 жыл бұрын

    I think this is only an advantage if you’re using the Fuel line of tools right?

  • @ratherBEaREDNECK

    @ratherBEaREDNECK

    3 жыл бұрын

    No, this will happen in baseline, Brushless, and Brushless Fuel

  • @Shoptoolreviews

    @Shoptoolreviews

    3 жыл бұрын

    You should see a difference on any, but the FUEL (brushless) tool will show the most gain. Thanks for watching.

  • @BearMeat4Dinner
    @BearMeat4Dinner3 жыл бұрын

    Just had a nightmare this morning buying this from Home Depot this morning. Finally got one that's working . First time buying a Milwaukee. Even opened it at the cashier. After I got home. Damn thing didn't work. Went back the exchange was a nightmare too! The store I bought it at only had one. The pro store said it had 3 in stock. I went to some old lady that looked like she didn't know what she was taking about. I hit the pro store first thing in the morning. I knew they had it! So when I took my 2nd trip there. I went back to the original store. The fella from the tool department came to returns n verified it didn't work. He told me the pro store had 3. The old lady dealt with me again n said they had none. I went to the manager desk n ty hey took care of business. They found the hidden boxes in the security cage n got me one that is working!!!

  • @elprofee2937
    @elprofee29372 жыл бұрын

    Debating to get 2 M12 3.0XC or 1 6.0XC both on sale

  • @james10739
    @james107393 жыл бұрын

    I mean just the larger capacity means it will go for longer and the voltage will stay higher longer

  • @Shoptoolreviews

    @Shoptoolreviews

    3 жыл бұрын

    You are sorta correct, you also get more power.

  • @mfill5043
    @mfill50433 жыл бұрын

    Which headphones are you using there?

  • @Shoptoolreviews

    @Shoptoolreviews

    3 жыл бұрын

    These are the IsoTunes Link headphones. Thanks for watching.

  • @mfill5043

    @mfill5043

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Shoptoolreviews Thx, I really appreciate and love your content!!

  • @Fee.1
    @Fee.13 жыл бұрын

    So it’s basically just as powerful as the stubby ?

  • @Shoptoolreviews

    @Shoptoolreviews

    3 жыл бұрын

    Depending on which batteries in each, it's very close. Thanks for watching.

  • @LuisRodriguez-qp3tx
    @LuisRodriguez-qp3tx Жыл бұрын

    When’s Milwaukee going to release the cigaret lighter adapter

  • @timnash6870
    @timnash6870 Жыл бұрын

    TIM from Canada… explain to me why it is so hard to get Milwaukee batteries into Milwaukee, M 12 or Milwaukee M 18 tools… and then trying to get the batteries out of these tools is even worse.. and then trying to get the batteries out of the charger. This is another disaster… I guess there’s no thoughts into how do you people decided.this

  • @BlindMansRevenge2002
    @BlindMansRevenge20022 жыл бұрын

    Exactly, more powerful battery means more power to the engines for longer.

  • @saltybuckeye
    @saltybuckeye2 жыл бұрын

    More power is always gooder

  • @johnserrano9689
    @johnserrano96892 жыл бұрын

    Very impressive video. Well thought out very clear and concise. Never seen a lesbian host pull off such a flawless tool video 👍

  • @Shoptoolreviews

    @Shoptoolreviews

    2 жыл бұрын

    Wonders never cease. Thanks for watching.

  • @johnserrano9689

    @johnserrano9689

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Shoptoolreviews see, even your response is clear cut and clean not to mention respectful 😎👍

  • @bobthompson4319
    @bobthompson43193 жыл бұрын

    Just makes me wish they would have made it a m18 and not an m12. It would do somewhere in the 500s probably

  • @Shoptoolreviews

    @Shoptoolreviews

    3 жыл бұрын

    We may see an M18 version son. Thanks for watching.

  • @johnbielenda7336
    @johnbielenda73362 жыл бұрын

    I guess this will be the Milwaukee for me........and 6 batter for sure.

  • @Shoptoolreviews

    @Shoptoolreviews

    2 жыл бұрын

    You won't go wrong with that setup. Thanks for watching.

  • @btqy

    @btqy

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Shoptoolreviews URGENT: You had the tool on TIGHTEN @400lbs. @09:33 the button is up.

  • @austinmoore1689
    @austinmoore16893 жыл бұрын

    I have the 3/8 fuel cordless ratchet the normal one but I only have the normal v12 battery why im here

  • @Shoptoolreviews

    @Shoptoolreviews

    3 жыл бұрын

    The larger battery will really help your tool. Thanks for watching.

  • @austinmoore1689

    @austinmoore1689

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Shoptoolreviews what is the best one for cars I strip them

  • @syn4057
    @syn40572 ай бұрын

    With about a $10 difference on eBay for 2 batteries, looks like 6.0Ah gets my money.

  • @CKBrutus
    @CKBrutus3 жыл бұрын

    I'm here early and looking forward to this

  • @Shoptoolreviews

    @Shoptoolreviews

    3 жыл бұрын

    I hope we didn't disappoint. Thanks again.

  • @ronbeton1999
    @ronbeton19993 жыл бұрын

    The 3.0 XC provides 552W (2 packs x 23A x 12v), the 4.0 XC provides 528W (2 packs x 22A x 12v) and the 6.0 XC provides 360W (2 packs x 15A x 12v). So theoretically the 3.0 XC (large one, not the compact) should be the most powerfull M12 battery.

  • @legros731

    @legros731

    3 жыл бұрын

    The xc 6.0 get less voltage sag it keep the voltage higher for longer when the battery get to 2 bar its at ~10 volts you get the best result at 12+volt notice the 6.0 battery was still at 4 bar and the 4.0 dropped at 2 bar and recovered at 3 bar after the test less volt = less power

  • @ryanotis

    @ryanotis

    3 жыл бұрын

    From disassembly videos elsewhere it looks like the XC6.0 uses Samsung inr18650-30q cells, does anyone know what cells are in the XC4.0? This test really has me intrigued.

  • @ronbeton1999

    @ronbeton1999

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ryanotis the M12 4.0 uses the 20R cells I guess with 22A. 2 packs of 20R cells make 4.0 Ah

  • @legros731

    @legros731

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ryanotis Samsung 20r

  • @rudyw.5216

    @rudyw.5216

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ryanotis my xc 4.0 uses LGDAHD41865 , max discharge is 25A per cell so 50A total

  • @carlmcdonald5864
    @carlmcdonald58643 жыл бұрын

    What the chesp 9.0 I see on Amazon

  • @sk8sloppy98
    @sk8sloppy982 жыл бұрын

    350ft lbs was moving with the 4.0

  • @james10739
    @james107393 жыл бұрын

    You should have charged the 4.0 back to full and try 350

  • @Shoptoolreviews

    @Shoptoolreviews

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think we pushed it enough. Thanks for watching.

  • @James-tf7kn

    @James-tf7kn

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Shoptoolreviews I have to agree with my fellow James, you can see the torque drop off on your tightening test. It only makes sense that it would on the loosening test as well. Especially since the 6.0 was only able to break loose the one that the 4.0 got stuck on.

  • @jrodr3744
    @jrodr3744 Жыл бұрын

    It’s in the wrong setting needs to be on the next mode for removing things

  • @DownHillgamer
    @DownHillgamer2 ай бұрын

    Xc 4.0s are my favorite. Good bang for your buck. Cp2.0s that come in the kits are good for some things but dont last long but the way price's are set up on amazon it makes more sense to buy the high ouput cp2.5s for like 33 bucks and if you want bigger the ho5.0s are like 62. A regular 6.0 is 80. And thats amazon good prices not homedepot break your wallet and slap you in the mouth prices

  • @IvanRossS
    @IvanRossS2 жыл бұрын

    350lbp for something that rated to do up to 220 !!... wow

  • @themechanic6117
    @themechanic61173 жыл бұрын

    Used daily yet the head isn't all scratched up and the white paint on the Milwaukee name isnt worn off .... Mmhmm let me show you what a real used daily milwaukee tool looks like .

  • @Shoptoolreviews

    @Shoptoolreviews

    3 жыл бұрын

    Some mechanics get the easy jobs. ;) Thanks for watching.

  • @james10739
    @james107393 жыл бұрын

    It's not number of cells that would make more of a difference I don't expect much of any difference just going from 3.0Ah to 4 or 5Ah

  • @Shoptoolreviews

    @Shoptoolreviews

    3 жыл бұрын

    You just have to try it for yourself. There is definitely a big difference.

  • @allthisfitsverywell4203
    @allthisfitsverywell42032 жыл бұрын

    Well that's funny I have the same ratchet and it won't even remove a lug nut torque to 100 foot pound.......

  • @stevescott1962
    @stevescott19623 жыл бұрын

    My own experience i get more power in my saw with a 4 vs a 2

  • @Shoptoolreviews

    @Shoptoolreviews

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yep, we don't doubt it. Thanks for watching.

  • @paedahe4975

    @paedahe4975

    3 жыл бұрын

    Try a 9ah eBay special. They are powerful.

  • @I_Died_2_Weeks_Ago
    @I_Died_2_Weeks_Ago Жыл бұрын

    Anyone who knows electricity knows that Power ='s Volts x Amps or I like to think of it as 'PIV' : Power = Current (I) x (V) Volts Basically what I'm trying to say is no 💩 more amps equates to more power when voltage is the same!

  • @gslightom12
    @gslightom123 жыл бұрын

    The 4th power level is the strongest break away torque

  • @Shoptoolreviews

    @Shoptoolreviews

    3 жыл бұрын

    No, it's not. 4th level is Auto Shut-Off mode prevents over tightening. Thanks for watching.

  • @btqy

    @btqy

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Shoptoolreviews URGENT: You had the tool on TIGHTEN @400lbs. @09:33 the button is up.

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