Another great video of yours thank you Joe and as always keep them coming

@AveRage_Joe

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks Man!!! More on the way!!!👍

I was looking for a video like this about longmons, thanks Joe.

@AveRage_Joe

6 жыл бұрын

Your betcha! What kind of info are you looking for and maybe I can include it in another video?👍😀

Great video keep them coming I always give you a thumbs up been watching the last year or so here in Tas Australia

@AveRage_Joe

6 жыл бұрын

Thank You and I appreciate the 👍😀

Well done man, you nailed it! Your explanation about what the longmons really are was better than I found on Batrium's site.

@AveRage_Joe

6 жыл бұрын

Thank You!!! I tried to do a laymen terms!!! There is still a lot about the batrium that I dont know yet but once I do Ill do more videos on the subject!!!😆👍

LOL you are a funny one! Thank you for the smile! I dont even know why I am watching you as I am not yet going to build my packs and watching your videos in random order as they are being suggested to me makes no logical sense. Still I find it highly entertaining while oddly satisfying..and for that you deserve a load! I mean.. credit!

@AveRage_Joe

6 жыл бұрын

Well... You and Welcome 😀 Yeah watching in random order would make no sense at all lol. Thanks for the load 😉😀

Nice Job, keep them coming.

@AveRage_Joe

6 жыл бұрын

Thank You!!! More Vide on the Waaaaay!😀

Thanks for sharing your project it's awsome BTW!!

@AveRage_Joe

6 жыл бұрын

Thank You for Watching!😀

really good explanation. even the most early beginner should get what the batrium is for. well done.

@AveRage_Joe

6 жыл бұрын

+Urs Odermatt Thanks!!! Thats what I was hopeing for🖒🖒

I'm totally going to go with batrium for my project. Very nice system.

@AveRage_Joe

6 жыл бұрын

I would IMO because you cant put a price on safety!!😀👍🔋

Great job! thanks for showing us your long-mon ... ... (s)

@AveRage_Joe

6 жыл бұрын

+Cerebral Dad Thats what she said😉😉🖒

@CerebralDad

6 жыл бұрын

I get that a lot..haha - btw did you get my email? (I changed my username on here) - keith

@AveRage_Joe

6 жыл бұрын

+Cerebral Dad Lol😉😉🖒 Ya I got it and was gonna reply from my pc when I get home🖒

kudos keep the vids coming! and that's good motivation to the rest of us to keep on collecting and building our packs. ps: still thinking about starting a channel ... working on having content that's interesting ...

@AveRage_Joe

6 жыл бұрын

+anthony karuri Thanks Man! Ya more vids on the way. We super busy at work right meow and the last few weeks so there coming out slow😣 I think you should do a channel cause sharing the info is the key!🖒🖒

Nice!!! Keep em comin!!

@AveRage_Joe

6 жыл бұрын

+Garry Spence Thanks! More coming!😀🖒

Nice. It really looks like your system will be difficult to expand on inside that server rack. I'm building mine using a adjustable bread rack. 14 packs wide 10 tall with separators between the vertical. It will make for easy monitoring and maintenance. But congrats on the "BMS" and again NICE!

@AveRage_Joe

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah I can only shove another 10kw in this lil rack unless I take the cells out of the holder and use the black cell holders. I could probly fit a lot more in there. If I had tall ceilings I would of have a few of the tall racks by now as my recycler gets quite a few. Yeah that sounds like a great way of doing it. I guess I could have made some shelves and what not to put the packs on but I thought it would look really cool in a server rack lol. Got your email👍

great job joe ! i'm wondering how much time you put in to for a 10 minute youtube vid (generally). never leave out the bloopers. love 'em.

@AveRage_Joe

6 жыл бұрын

+Richard Riehle Lol waaaaay to much time but I Love it!!!😆 Bloopers are here to stay🖒🖒

@AveRage_Joe

6 жыл бұрын

+Richard Riehle Another thing why It takes me forever is I want to do the KZread full time and quit the regular job so I take my time for the most part. It will probly be a while tho since I dont have the Subscribers and donations but at least Im getting all the practice lol. I almost redid the talking part cause it wasnt in the best focus lol.

Your start kit will work in my 14S288P battery pack

@AveRage_Joe

6 жыл бұрын

Yup, sure will! Heres the link to the kit I got and now they have the new style shunt 😀 www.batrium.com/collections/starter-kit/products/starter-kit-watchmon-14s-longmon-shuntmon2-500a

Cool!

FYI - the temp sensor is in the lower mid-portion of the resistor area and not in the control | management area at the top. You can see it by the irregular "bump" in the otherwise consistent spacing of the resistors.

@AveRage_Joe

4 жыл бұрын

There are 2 temp sensors on the longmon. Cell temp sensor is down by the connector and bypass temp sensor is in middle of resistors!👍

I like your videos and I don't even know what you're talking about! lol! ;)

@AveRage_Joe

6 жыл бұрын

I Like You even tho you dont know what Im talking about!!😍

do you know if possible to have series parallel modules on batriums like 2S14S, if so how do you install the cellmons in the daisy chain

@AveRage_Joe

6 жыл бұрын

Your batteries can be in any size or shape or series and parallel. You just put a longmon on each 3.7v pack then string all the longmon wires up in a series.

Are you going to do the sharpie on the cream connector?

@AveRage_Joe

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah I have a paint pen Ill use and maybe it will match more????😜

You could always glue a flat piece of plastic or something onto the cells holders and then the longmons can sit on it as if it was made for it.

@AveRage_Joe

6 жыл бұрын

+Phizicks Yeah theres a guy on the forum that made a 3D printed holder for them so Ill do that when I get one🖒

at 0:38 what is the little 4-prong thingie left of the [[assuming]]RJ(?)-9-pin/RS232 adapter?

@AveRage_Joe

6 жыл бұрын

That guy there is just a usb cable 👍

I would bet that even if you put the connectors forward, you would still be able to see the LED's., even if you put the longmons inside the front of the battery packs. Would make it easier to service and the longmon could just sit there with a drop of hot glue under it's front and attached to a cell.

@AveRage_Joe

6 жыл бұрын

I did have them all on the front at first but a couple would hit the drawers above them. I thought I broke one the first time I pulled a drawer out. The way my wiring is with the braided sleeves and heat shrink didnt leave much room. I could of put them at an angle but I figured Id just put them on top.😀

Great video! What is the music at 2:36?

@AveRage_Joe

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks!! Ill have to look on my laptop for the name of that song but I got it from the youtube creator music download area!

hi, I have a 14S288P LGDAMF11865(2150mA) do you think in this configuration Batrium will work right, or I need to do something else

@AveRage_Joe

6 жыл бұрын

+Jose Garcia Yup, batrium will work perfectly with your setup!😃🖒 If you get it, let them know I sent ya 😆🖒

nice setup! what are u using for the rack drawers?

@betzke

6 жыл бұрын

and what are those cell holders?

@betzke

6 жыл бұрын

ah, found kzread.info/dash/bejne/dZyCm9Nwkrm4gs4.html :)

@AveRage_Joe

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks Man!!!! The drawers had a removable front plate thingy with a sticker that said rack solutions. Ive seen a few different drawers on ebay also. They work great and I need to find a few more!!!👍

@AveRage_Joe

6 жыл бұрын

BOOOM you found it!💥🔋👍

@betzke

6 жыл бұрын

are they 1U?

so the long mom drain each of the cells until all the serial cell reach a certain voltage, right. What would happen with a 14S288P, it think this long mom take forever to drain the size of this package

@AveRage_Joe

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah the longmon is a load resistor and will activate based on some preconfigured settings or your own. If the packs are fairly equal in capacity when put together then there isnt really a problem. If the packs are not equal in capacity then sure, it could take a while. You could always put more longmons on if needed. 👍

I found 5 longmons cables broken, I replace 3 I need another 2 I'm not sure if your have some of them to spare, you tell me how much they cost and a way to pay for them

@AveRage_Joe

6 жыл бұрын

Wow, that is amazing! The actual wire was broken? I dont have any extra.

I split my battery, so if I have 28 cellmons for a 2P14S battery I make the daisy chain with 14 and parallel the other 14 or make the daisy chain with the 28

@AveRage_Joe

6 жыл бұрын

You would only need 1 cellmon on each series pack on a 2p setup. So 14 in total. I have 100p and only need 1 cellmon on each pack and it does a great job. To be honest the Batrium would be overkill on a 2p setup unless you plan to upgrade/add more cells as time goes on. If each parallel pack is put together with equal capacity cells then 1 cellmon is good on each pack. Does that make since?

@JoseGarcia-px9xj

6 жыл бұрын

I used to have a 14S288P cells(lgeamf11865), so 288X2.150amp=619amp so I decide to do 2P14s or 2P148S, I think I only have to daisy chain the 28 cellmons

@AveRage_Joe

6 жыл бұрын

I think we are miscommunicating, How many packs do you have and how many cells in each pack?

@JoseGarcia-px9xj

6 жыл бұрын

I have 56packs(72cells each) arrange in 2P14S X 2

@AveRage_Joe

6 жыл бұрын

Oh ok. The Ideal way to use a longmon would be to have one on each parallel pack! Anyway you can make the parallel packs bigger to cut down on using so many longmons would be cheaper!

Did the Longmons get very hot after initial connection. Everything was looking good until I touched them. I wouldnt expect them to be so hot if the packs are already balanced. I thought this cant be normal so I disconnected everything until I get confirmation.

@AveRage_Joe

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah they will get hot if there not hooked up to the watchmon. Unless you have them hooked up to the watchmon, if so there is a setting to change the on/off time to help with heat/cool down time.

@garryspence4521

6 жыл бұрын

Ok I did connect them to the watchmon but Im sure there are some setting I need to adjust. Just find it odd that out of the box setting would drain the batteries so much. I will look for the on / off time you are referring. Sorry I couldnt wait for your update. But still looking forward to see it.

Would they fit diagonally across front?

@AveRage_Joe

6 жыл бұрын

+Alan Marshall Yeah they would and I almost did that but the ziptie part would of been funky😀

Hello I see your videos very much and I would like to tell you the following: I have 3x (4s p50) a total of 600 cells, I never tested the amperes capacity of any, the only thing I did was load them at 3.5v and see if they drop too much voltage after a few days (4). (and resistance can go up to 125) I do not use bms (anything) then only load them up to 14.5V and unload to 10.8v. (solar system) The cells are used and work very well (a long time) so without straining hard and getting away from the 16.8v limit, will I be crazy? Greetings from Portugal

@AveRage_Joe

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for Watching! I would say were all a little crazy😉 If you havent done or dont plan to test the cells, I would say keep an eye on the voltage when recharging them. Since you dont know the capacity, some packs will become out of balance and charge faster or slower then others. That can be pretty dangerous if a pack becomes over charged. It could catch fire/explode. Thats where a bms would be extremely important in your case. Even a cheap bms. Did you fuse the cells or put a thin wire on them to act like a fuse? If not I would advise to do so and keep the packs outside just in case.

@MotivationExtraMotivacao

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for answering. Yes I put the same glass fuses the same as you use 1A. And in others I put thin wire (gives less work) The voltage of the cells does not exceed 3.7v and the more charged, the more balanced they are (3.7v others at 3.6V at the beginning of the load the differences are larger but then decrease) I'm more afraid of cheap Chinese bms than not using any. I already used this system for more than 5 years in other packages I never had any problem or cells heat up, they are always cold, I want more capacity, together more cells in 4s. Cells at 3.7v are practically 30% of the load I think and I charge them between 15 to 20A And I use the lithium cells in parallel with lead acid and the voltage is very stabilized. I've learned some things with you and I've seen your videos several times. Thank you very much for your advice. I understand the risks of using the 18650. Packages are indoors

@AveRage_Joe

6 жыл бұрын

Gotcha, Its good to hear you have had it up and running for that long!!! Thanks again for watching!😃👍

How is the Wiring going? Very curious to see how you addressed the challenges of doing this in a rack.

@AveRage_Joe

6 жыл бұрын

+Garry Spence Wiring is goin great!!! Im editing the video meow but its a looooooong one lol. I mean looooong 😂

@garryspence4521

6 жыл бұрын

Long is not a problem for me. Long means alot of detail.

@AveRage_Joe

6 жыл бұрын

Right meow its sitting at 37min and I still need to add some lol. It was at 53min but I started to really edit it and got rid of some camera angled soldering stuff😜👍

@garryspence4521

6 жыл бұрын

Having sliding racks has some challenges. I am looking into wiring each pack with 2 pin Molex connectors. This will enable me to have a quick disconnect for the Longmon power leads. I am waiting to see how you handled this issue.

so you system is ?P?S, how many parallel cells(p) do you have I guess serial(S) is 14

@AveRage_Joe

6 жыл бұрын

Yup its a 14s100p (1400 cells) with a total of 226amp hours!😃🔋👍

what brand of batteries do you have and where did you get them from ?

@AveRage_Joe

6 жыл бұрын

I am using any laptop or medical cells I find above 2000mah! I made a video on how and where I get my cells kzread.info/dash/bejne/eqygzq6ucqTQgNY.html 😀

If it gets that hot, don`t place it against any battery case. Buy yourself, a heat-sink, or remove one from an old computer, it has a fan attached to it. You can use both of them, all together. And to convert the voltage for the fan, buy a buck converter. Remove a temperature from an old laptop pack and attach it to your to the longmons.

@AveRage_Joe

6 жыл бұрын

Ya for sure dont want to put the hot end on the cells! You can hook up fans to the watchmon to control heat if needed. Actually you hook up the fans ect to the expansion board! I havent done any of that yet but might not need to. Time will tell!

10A 3S BMS chips cost less than a dollar, for those of you just starting out. They can be chained in series and parallel.

@bcmasur

6 жыл бұрын

if you're good at soldering to tiny spots. I used to solder 7-wire mod-chips to playstation 9001 (and earlier)

So you can install long mon in parallel

@AveRage_Joe

6 жыл бұрын

You just add the longmon to the string and attach to your pack!🖒

Are those LiCoO2 18650s?

@AveRage_Joe

6 жыл бұрын

I have a mixture from Laptop and Medical packs!🔋👍

So Joe, do you know more about BM's and B.S. than BMS?? And who DOESN'T love LEDS!!

@AveRage_Joe

6 жыл бұрын

+kirkb4989 More B.S. that anything! 😆😀 I LOVE LEDS!!!

@bcmasur

6 жыл бұрын

i love LED LCDs that show something USEFUL...

I just found this channel today and I rushed through most of the videos. My question to anyone is: Does this power rack actually work at the moment? Is it powering anything in Joe's house? Is it connected to solar?

@AveRage_Joe

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching. I dont have it hooked to the mains as of yet but I was using it to power my fridge. I do have it over by my work bench area from videoing the Batrium Stuff. Yep I have it hooked up to solar as well.

@cenariusbg

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the answer mate! Keep up with the good work. This channel rocks!

@AveRage_Joe

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks!!! You bet and if you have any questions, dont hesitate to ask!!!😀

Good enough for the girls I go out with

@AveRage_Joe

6 жыл бұрын

Thats what I thought too👍😀

aw yiss longmons

@AveRage_Joe

6 жыл бұрын

The Ol LongMons!😜👍

To avoid youtube BS, click on the SORT BY and change it from top comments to recent first.

Double sided tape would melt off. lol

@AveRage_Joe

6 жыл бұрын

+Gilbert Pfaff Its possible but thats what the install directions say🖒

@bcmasur

6 жыл бұрын

not distributed enough, that makes heat.

coMon Joe!!!

@volvo09

6 жыл бұрын

Very appropriate colors in your logo

@apprenticeofeverything

6 жыл бұрын

yeah, very obvious! Not trying to pull an artsy move on it!!! Cheers!

@AveRage_Joe

6 жыл бұрын

😀😀👍

14 vs 100 isn't equal enough. do a square root of 1400 instead and go from there. You designed your packs wrong, mon.

@AveRage_Joe

6 жыл бұрын

I guess I dont follow?

@shonalex

5 жыл бұрын

@@AveRage_Joe Yeah, I don't get what he's trying to say either.

Please AveRageJoe could you PLEASE emphasize the DOWNSIZING of consumer-level electronics!??! I think it would help encourage people to join the cause of going off-grid and being educated about electronics. THANK YOU.

@bcmasur

6 жыл бұрын

For examples, air-conditioners, microwaves(puke) and heaters should never go beyond 1000W each

@AveRage_Joe

6 жыл бұрын

YES that is the first thing one needs to do!!! Ill try to mention that in a video!!!😀👍

19" racks suck for computers, also. what a dumb standard.

@bcmasur

6 жыл бұрын

stop trying to concentrate everything into one place. such as having all six solar panels in the same place on your roof, AveRageJoe. Split the panels, put them at the edges of your roof. Have six independent systems running each application in your home. Guess you don't care to mention that???? wouldn't help your videos since you're locking into the way you're already doing it, which is PART of the PROBLEM.

@AveRage_Joe

6 жыл бұрын

Thats a neat idea actually. Having groups running different parts of the house!!!

What the hell dude! All your last videos are 15 minutes of "I don't know" cut that crap out!

@AveRage_Joe

6 жыл бұрын

LOLZ