the return? great video by the way

@Venxous

3 ай бұрын

You where the first yo get it right

@joshua2400

Ай бұрын

Jesus the good Lord loves you my friends : ) Do you know the good Lord? : ) He who healed me personally when nothing else would for years

@godswillwariya9082

28 күн бұрын

​@@Venxous batman. . Have Compassion for. His. Rogues

to quote OSPs Red "if you cant imagine your batman comforting a dying child your not writing batman"

@Stirlingite-mm1nc

Ай бұрын

(Continuation) „your writing punisher“

@SilverHairedFreak25

Ай бұрын

"You're writing the punisher with a silly hat."

@knowledgeseeker4614

29 күн бұрын

I remember how in “The Batman” you could see Batman feel bad for the kid whose father was killed by Riddler.

Greatest batman is when he is portrayed as a Hero instead of anti-hero. Someone who got hurt, and decided: Never again, not for me, not for anyone else.

My favorite part of this moment with Ace is how it reconstructs Batman's code. With all his other villains, there's a constant moral conflict to how Batman's refusal to kill them indirectly leads to far more death. But by refusing to kill Ace, he helps her find peace in her last moments and saves millions. It goes to show there is a point to sticking by his code, if anyone else had gone through with Waller's plan the situation would've been far worse.

@Weldedhodag

Ай бұрын

I like to view it as a mix of this, and Batman knowing he's nuttier than a payday bar and being afraid to spiral out of control

@hawkticus_history_corner

Ай бұрын

@@Weldedhodag Me and a buddy were discussing Batman the other day and we both determined that, in more properly written Batman stories anyway, Batman's mistrust of himself is his general paranoia about everything. He trusts virtually no one, especially himself.

@dracotias

28 күн бұрын

@@Weldedhodag I can't remember the exact phrasing but he kinda covers this in "under the hood" and says something along the lines of "If I ever go down that road, if I ever start killing. I don't think I'd be able to stop". Bruce knows FULL well he's barely any different than the things he fights and that hard no kill rule is how he keeps himself was tipping over the edge. To a degree some versions have been implied to be scared he'd "enjoy it".

The Batman 2022 at the end where he realizes he needs to be a symbol not of Vengeance but of Hope, and the person is so afraid of being lifted by the helicopter they hold onto Batman until he makes them feel safe. 😭

@abramsullivan7764

Ай бұрын

A lot of people really missed the point of The Batman.

I gotta say I completely agree with your take on Batman. Someone who tries to rise above tragedy and ensure better lives for the people around him

@plasticweapon

3 ай бұрын

except that's not who he is.

@autobotproductions1244

3 ай бұрын

@@plasticweapon how do you see him then?

@GribbleGob

Ай бұрын

@@plasticweapon He is if you read comics and watch more than the bad Zack Snyder movies.

@callmejacob3234

Ай бұрын

@@GribbleGob Zack Snyder and Frank Miller ruined how people view Batman.

@zemox2534

Ай бұрын

​@@plasticweaponYou are obviously a fan of Zack Synder (not) Batman.

A child forced to face the darkness of the world too early, this is both ace and Bruce's lives somed up.

heroism isn't about beating the bad guy, it's about helping people. this batman understands that to one of the greatest degrees.

Batman does care which is why a lot of the newer ones not caring that much hurts. The animated series showed him using his money to help people, to build halfway homes to help former criminals change their life around, to have the man in a bat costume sit on a swing with a dying girl. A dying girl that could end the world, kill everyone, and ending her quickly would make no difference in the end than letting her die naturally... And yet he sat on the swing with her and stayed with her to the end because it mattered. Maybe not to the world, not to those around them, or even the end result... But it mattered to her and thus it mattered to him. Compassion was his greatest strength you saw from time to time... It is a shame it seems to be viewed as a weakness or something to be mocked.

@GribbleGob

Ай бұрын

no idea why so many people think "not social and emotionally stunted" think he doesn't care about anyone, if anything he cares too much given his crusade against criminals.

... This Batman always stops by to see Harvey in the Asylum. Because Harvey is his friend. And I love that.

I agree, This is Batman He embodies vengeance upon everyone who has been wronged But the man behind vengeance, is a sad individual who wants to ensure no one could ever go through the same pain that haunts his soul But together, Batman inspires pain into positive change He will fight the irredeemable and try to help.

@plasticweapon

3 ай бұрын

i don't see either vengeance or compassion in batman's actions. he's all over the place.

@GhostGamer25

3 ай бұрын

@@plasticweapon Fair statement, I'll give you that Sometimes he goes overboard such as the time in the animated series Where he choose to crash through a window, scare the ever loving daylights out of a thug in front his his wife and kids.

@notthefbi7015

14 күн бұрын

@@plasticweaponthat's because the writers are all over the place

I said it once and I’ll say it several times again but that scene with Batman and Ace is the definition Batman scene.

That’s why (in my opinion) the best Batman heir is Dick Grayson. Not only is he a happier Batman but he’s also a character not defined by the tragedies of his life but defined by compassion he has for others and the compassion shown to him at a young age.

@Venxous

Ай бұрын

This is exactly why he’s my favorite too

my batman will always be a batman that cares, a batman even as his alter ego of bruce wayne is doing everything he can to make sure no one goes through what he did

@mayotango1317

Ай бұрын

He is a abusive and cold asshole.

Kevin Conroy was an amazing guy he was an outspoken ally for the LGBT+ community, a sponsor of programs for at risk children, and volunteered as a cook for rescue workers during the aftermath of 9/11

subbed. You get it, who the best Batman is and why. How Batman is supposed to be. He’s not an edgy, hateful playboy, he’s a deeply hurting kid who lost his parents and just wants to help other people who hurt like he does, or prevent them from ever having that hurt. He’s the representation of the phrase, “ I wouldn’t wish this pain on my worst enemy” and it shows because he has compassion for even the most vile criminals.

I always liked the line where someone is yelling at Batman that he took Dick Grayson under his wing, and helped him take down his parents killer so he could be just like him. And Batman responded, “No, I did it so he wouldn’t.”

People often dismiss the episode because of Terry being related to Bruce but they fail to see that even without that connection, he still put on the cowl and he decided his destiny on his own. The conflict is how he feels about being Bruce’s seed and what that entails for him before ultimately coming to the conclusion that there’s always a need for a Batman but the wearer does always have to bow down to the mask like Bruce had done.

Yeah, since the Burton era, media had kinda boxed him in as dark and brooding character, strictly a symbol of fear, an isolated individual, an indifferent, calculating monster. When in reality, he has more in common with the optimistic, compassionate Superman than he does the cynical, self-serving Luthor. It's easy to forget that, in his own way, he loves Gotham. Most people have given up on the city, but Batman hasn't.

Lore of Batmans Legacy Is Compassion momentum 100

More examples: his approach to Victor Fries, Mary Dahl, Pamela Isley´s plant clone, Robert Kirkland... And even in BotF, he showed enough compassion when the situation deserved it. And Terry learned from his parents and from him, he offered redemption to many of his foes.

Batman is a driven, hard man but even for all his stoicism & willingness to do what must be done he's still a hurt 8 year old who wants to see the best. His mission is to help people so even if it's comforting a child he will take it on himself. As much as Bruce will think he's just a shell for Batman, he will never let go of the desire that Bruce Wayne has to make the world safer

Even a 9 minute video like this can be draining to edit, it was very worth it! Good job, very much enjoyed it

@Venxous

2 ай бұрын

It can be draining sometimes for sure but if it makes someones day better its worth it.

@GojoSatoru7699

28 күн бұрын

@@Venxous It made my day better, thank you. Batman is and always will be, my most favorite character

Rewatched On Leather Wings the other night. It was refreshing how Bruce didn't send Kirk to prison or Arkham. Instead he just returned him to his wife at the end after giving Kirk an antidote he managed to make.

Been through my fair share of pain and batman has helped me deal with alot of things in my life Rest in peace Kevin Conroy you are still missed. Great video by the way.

5:00 that's always a gut punch to me😭

You know, everyone talks about Epilogue, and they talk about Batman, and Ace, and Terry, but what I don't hear people talk about is this was the best Amanda Waller we probably ever got or ever will get. Cadmas was originally supposed to be the clear bad guys, but the writers realized while they were doing bad things their intentions of having weapons against literal gods was not a bad thing. Nowadays, Waller is just the most toxic person in modern depictions. This old age Waller who would actually comfort Terry for what she did but still stand by it? We'll probably never see it again.

Overly Sarcastic Productions put it best: If you can't write a Batman that can comfort a scared child on the worst day of their life, then he's not Batman. He The Punisher wearing a silly hat.

The episode was The Return. But yes we all like a badas Batman but we need the Batman that offers his hand. Why beyond hating the actor for a few reason, I refuse to count Hackflex as a man to don the cowl. The version Zack Snyder used is a childish bully. Kevin knew the weight Batman carried and how his goal was no child suffering in fear and lose. The way Bruce talks to young Richard when we see Robin's origin story is great for that. And how Alfred reminds Batman that maybe what young Dick needs isn't Batman but the kindness of Bruce. Young Justice got it a bit too with Batman wanting to avoid Dick being like him. And even Lego Batman a story I like but don't feel it's a great Batman learns kindness.

@user-gj9uq3kb7y

3 ай бұрын

CONROY APROVED BATFLECK THOUGH

@jonathanhibberd9983

2 ай бұрын

@@user-gj9uq3kb7y Did he approve Batfleck, or did he approve Ben Affleck's casting as Batman. Because Zack Snyder did an amazing job with the casting for the DCEU. It's just his writing that sucked. If you had the DCEU cast with a writer that actually understood these characters, the DCEU would have been bigger than the MCU. If Paul Dini or Dwayne McDuffie (RIP) had written the scripts for the DCEU movies, and all Snyder had to do was direct, it would be brilliant. Snyder is great at putting together visuals. His remake of Dawn of the Dead was great, because he didn't write it. James Gunn did. And Gunn is a fantastic storyteller, unlike Snyder.

@user-gj9uq3kb7y

2 ай бұрын

@@jonathanhibberd9983 Conroy liked the way Affleck portrayed the DUALITY Of Batman

@callmejacob3234

Ай бұрын

@@user-gj9uq3kb7y Yeah he approved of the duality not the films themselves. He never flat out said Affleck is the best. Because he wasn't he was terribly written. That's the problem with Zack Snyder he's a terrible writer.

@MutantsInDisguise

27 күн бұрын

​@@callmejacob3234blame David S. Goyer and Chris Terrio.

With how movies have become focused on becoming more cinematic, with their depictions of these characters, we lose stories like this. A story that says more through the animation than in words. Batman is the hero that wants to bring hope to Gotham, and we see this get touched on in The Batman movie. But the episode referenced in the video is the best form of Batman. Their is a trust formed as Batman is the only one allowed to approach Ace, as she read his mind. Instead of doing what needs to be done, he talks with her, and listens to her pains and fears that lead to this point. He is direct with her about her death and apologizes. I cry every time I see him sit on that swing and comforts the poor scared girl, whose about to die. He never says anything he offers his hand and they just sit. Their is no dialogue only music, and the next time we see the two Batman is carrying her. I will always point to this episode as showing who Batman really is. He is still the same Batman we saw in the original Batman Animated Series where he helped the poor woman who was stuck looking like a child whose life went to shit after her show was cancelled. Batman should never be the version we see in the All Star Batman comics, but the one we see here who believes in a second chance, just as he has given to those in his Bat-Family.

Epilog is the only piece of media that 100% will make me cry even just thinking of it.

Cartoons with a moral lesson is gold.

DCAU Batman solos every live action version his humanity is what made him so iconic.

⚠️ EPILEPSY WARNING ⚠️ THIS VIDEO CONTAINS FLASHING LIGHTS ⚠️

when people say "why doesnt he kill his villains" misses the point of him. He tries to help his villains to become better. And that is what his character is about.

This is one point about Batman that many writers and artists forget when trying to push forward Batman's mega-bucks kick-assery. He would NOT BE Batman, if he didn't CARE. Ultimately he's out there NOT for revenge, but because he NEVER wants another child to experience HIS pain.

‘Tough Love’. BATMAN wants Justice but above all else, he wants a world that does not need a Batman or Superman or any other superhero.

I know this doesn't have to just do with the direct topic of the video but another episode to look at for a compassionate Batman is Baby Doll from TAS. But Epilog is probably the best showing as to why Bruce Wayne's compassion matters. Spoilers below. There's actually been a few stories about villains of his taking up a less villain role while Batman is gone from the city. They are willing to defend Gotham. And look at Poison Ivy and Harley. Sure, they relapse sometimes, but they've taken on less villainous roles over time. Until a relapse or another time line is introduced. Real life Batman movies fail to show Batman at his best. They show what he shouldn't be most of the time. A crime fighter with a lot of baggage. Sometimes I can't see the real life movies being anything but a Frank Castle Batman, an elseworld version of the Punisher dressed up in Batman's costume. Especially the ones that have him kill intentionally.

I wish the live action media understood this. I really hope James Gunn can give us this version. He seems to be on the right track with Superman, so fingers crossed. Yeah, he can be dark and gritty, but if you don't balance that with the empathy and compassion, he becomes boring. One of many reasons why I dislike the DCEU, and the Snyderverse specifically. He did both Batman and Superman so badly. And Wonder Woman. 6:43 That's Amazo in the background. I had to look up the episode name, Tabula Rasa.

@kuno3336

Ай бұрын

The Batman 2022 understands it

That’s why I like the recent Batman movie bc it shows that Batman actually cares about the people of Gotham

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I always liked batman that's compassionate I do like the grittiness of the modern era as well but nothing really hit as hard as the ace moment and the episode where Harley was able to live a happy life. I want this version to come back so much and show off that bruce maybe a more dark and gritty hero but he still has a heart and love to do the right thing.

the scene with batman and ace always hits me right in the feels.

honestly i much prefer his compassion being the reason he never kills over his paranoia. the man knows the absolute value of a life and couldn't bare to inflict the pain onto others, cause even if the villains themselves deserve it, the families don't. obviously the jokers existance is a complete rebuttal to the ideology but that's what makes him such an interesting villain, he is the obvious rebuttal to batmans ideology and that's the point. plus you know character flaws make characters interesting, there's a reason mary sues are despised, perfect decision making simply doesn't create any drama.

Reached the end and you're absolutely 100% right about Batman. He's better when writers embrace the empathetic side of his character along with the vengeful side and that's something that the Ben Affleck/Snyder films lacked in spades. Batman isn't and shouldn't just be this violent angry edgelord with no mention of the good he tries to do, he should try to show empathy to the villains who deserve it and be a symbol of hope AND justice. It's so wild to me that DC hasn't been able to capture that in their films when they have the perfect blueprint in the 90's DCAU. Those cartoons have some of the peak portrayals of these characters and there are so many lessons to take from them. A Batman who cares, one who takes the time to recognize that not every villain is irredeemable and some just had one bad day. A superman who grew up with the love of two adoptive parents, neither taken by cheap emotional tactics like a tornado and whose simple lessons formed the hero he is. A wonder woman who finds that her island's teachings doesn't have to color her interactions with the rest of humanity and that there is good and allies to be found out there. A green lantern who, despite having his own set of problems, can use his experiences to keep his planet, and others out in the galaxy, safe in his own way. A flash who is, much like Batman and Superman, just as empathetic behind his goofy persona and is willing to sit and talk with a villain, to promise to visit him. A martian manhunter who goes through hell but comes out of it with a new family, an entire planet that sees him in the same heroic light as the rest of the league. Like, there are so many good episodes in the DCAU that could form a template for a better Batman. Baby Doll, the Epilogue episode mentioned in this video, Harley's Holiday and the Two-Face episodes where he shows an endless desire to save his friend. Flash and Substance is also an amazing episode since it shows the Flash being just as empathetic towards his villains and how his care free persona hides this depth to his character. Batman Beyond too, since there's so much depth added to Bruce Wayne's character in that series. I guess overall the main point is that the 90's DCAU is very good and still holds up to this day and I encourage everyone to go check it out if you haven't already. I hope DC starts taking lessons from the characterizations in these shows, I'm not sure why they've had such a weird resistance to using them as a base for their films but maybe the new Superman film will be a step in the right direction since it seems Clark will, for the first time in a while, actually have both his adoptive parents alive and kicking. I can only hope so because there's so much potential there that has just been buried under edginess lol (The Batman 2022 was cool though, there still is room for edginess and I felt like that film captured a bit of the Arkhamverse in it's characterisations)

There was a great comment on another batman video, that I sadly can't recall the name of, but it went something like this: "Batman is a man who isn't trapped in emotional hell, he stays there to help others out, because by him being there, there is literally less space in hell." He's a sad, damaged man who wants to make sure no one else goes through what he did. I compared him once to someone who had been shot. Yes, the wound is healed and its scarred over, but every time he moves he can feel the scar tissue and so he scratches at it, poking it so its always reminds him of what happened.

This is the true batman 🤍🖤

God, I miss the DCAU... RIP Kevin Conroy

Thanks youtube algorithm for suggesting me this, reminding me of that episode and summoning the onnion cutting ninjas to my apartment.

I wonder if Waller wanted Batman to disobey her from the beginning. It's a dumb idea to send a guy with a no kill rule on an assassination mission.

Yes! I grew up on the continuity you focused on, and seeing stuff that's happened since then do things like make him a grimdark, edgy asshole or WILLING TO USE A GUN almost makes me flat out dislike some other versions. Because the Batman I grew up with wanted better for his rogues gallery, especially the ones whose villain origin stories stem from things like tragedy, going after those who wronged them, etc. I could give SO MANY examples from Batman the Animated Series of said compassion, even from episodes where his rogues don't show up or play any role. Heck, the 'Arkham revolving door' problem that leads to criticism of him in and out of the DC universe stems from wanting better even for his rogues I'd say don't necessarily or flat out don't deserve his compassion. Though to be fair he won't change or bend the rules for his less redeemable rogues because he refuses to become what he's fighting against. I think a lot of people who don't keep this stuff in mind forget the fact that the entire point of his 'mission' as Batman is minimizing the number of children who go through what he did.

Something that people forget from the gritty tellings of Batman is that he is vengeance yes, but he has and chooses to suffer (he often almost gets his teeth knocked in on a weekly basis fighting like 7+ dudes) to make things better for others. More then that; in a universe with flying aliens, mutants and chosen ones empowered by gods he is a man who does what he does so that others will never feel the same pain as he did in that alley.

The batman that smashed his adopted son girlfriend and best friend's daughter

@Venxous

29 күн бұрын

I….like to pretend it didn’t happen because it makes me sick to think about

There's a brake down on the anti batman his perfect counterpart Owlman with a extra bit on why the batman who laughs is bad. In that video it brakes down that the reason batman doesn't kill despite killing joker would save hundreds of lives is because batman respects life to a almost biblically level that there's always a better way that nobody is beyond redemption that is what batman is at his core someone that see all life as precious that all lives matter. Unfortunately we've been getting either dark and gritty versions that only focus on the bone breaking vengeance or campy versions that don't show his serious moments that truly show what makes batman The BATMAN.

Kevin is really missed. He made batman more human

good video, you get a like!

Nahh man dcau animated was beyond amazing and I’m going to miss Kevin beyond compare

Song name on the background???

Yes of course, the BatFamily will say something else...

@ArcTrooperRod-269

Ай бұрын

We, si no te gustan sus videos ¿que haces aquí?

@mayotango1317

Ай бұрын

@@ArcTrooperRod-269 ¿Y por qué vienes a molestarme?

@ArcTrooperRod-269

Ай бұрын

@@mayotango1317 porque te la pasas acosandome solo para presumirme tus "Gustos God" (vete tu a saber que significan esos Gustos "GOD" )

@mayotango1317

Ай бұрын

@@ArcTrooperRod-269 A nadie le gusta los mentirosos. Usted es quién me acosa.

Many readers get it wrong and think Batman is a symbol of vengeance, which is wild to me. Batman is a symbol of hope. Not just any hope, but a beautiful, irrational hope. To the people in the DC universe who do not know Batman is Bruce Wayne, Batman is a symbol of vengeance, and Batman clearly cultivates this perception. But the reader (and certain comic book characters) know that Batman is also Bruce Wayne, and thus can piece together that the vengeance thing is an act and that he's really about hope. Or as you put it, compassion. See, Bruce Wayne is a successful businessman. A critical skill for any businessman is knowing when a particular project or even department is a lost cause and shutting it down as quickly as possible to avoid losing too much money. Failure to do this will result in a swift trip to bankruptcy court. You have to know when something is just not going to work out, and stopping the bleeding as soon as possible by getting rid of it. So we know that Bruce Wayne must have this skill. He would not have so much money if he did not have this skill. And yet, Bruce Wayne spends millions of dollars trying to redeem the most irredeemable villains in the DC universe. He has to know that trying to reform those particular villains is extremely unlikely to be successful, and yet he spends substantial amounts of money year upon year upon year trying to do exactly that. The people in the DC universe only know about Batman obsessively attacking those villains and dragging them back to prison or Arkham Asylum over and over and over, so for them, Batman is a symbol of vengeance. But the reader sees Bruce Wayne spend all that money trying to redeem people that he should know are irredeemable. He is an atheist who is obsessed with the idea that everyone can be redeemed. Like I said, he's not just a symbol of hope, but it is a beautiful, irrational kind of hope that will never bend to reason. That gives a lot of context to his rule against killing. He cannot bring himself to kill anyone, because it is always possible that the person he killed could have been redeemed and/or cured of their mental illness.

@MutantsInDisguise

27 күн бұрын

Batman is actually a symbol of vengeance, though. Superman is Hope.

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@user-bf1nu1gm4u

14 күн бұрын

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People really need to learn that Frank Miller’s Batman isn’t a good Batman, especially in ASBAR, that Batman is a sociopath. That’s not really Batman

:.)

I definitely still think about this scene. Batman at his moral prime

What if I like and make a comment 🤔

I don't like modern batman, because its all about glorifying the superficial garbage around him while losing a lot of the most classic versions maturity.

Dude i was trying to watch a batman video not tear up, im actually in tears i don't know why but i get too emotional watching a sad video or animated movies or just movies in general like Forest Gump, Green Mile, In Pursuit of Happiness, Bridge to Terabithia, ect. but what i mean is just that this is an actual well made video that put and someone put a lot of work and effort into 🥲👍

This might upset some people but I personally HATE that Terry McGinnis is a clone of Bruce Wayne. Because being clone completely removes his relevance as separate character. I always said that "one does not need to be blood related to a hero someone to be a hero on their own." Why couldn't Terry just be a nobody? Just a nobody with a strong sense for Justice and bravery to stand up for what he believes in? That is what makes a hero. Not being a clone of someone. I think Batman of the Future was an excellent series and it was Terry's show I hate that he got downgraded in the ending of JLU epilogue.

@sltinesltton8371

26 күн бұрын

"Your not His clone, you are His son". - Amanda Waller

@ProtonCannon

25 күн бұрын

@@sltinesltton8371 Clone or son, functionally it is the same. Still it does not change the purpose of Terry being someone who became a hero because he was "created" for it. And not because it was the right thing to do.

Agree... to disagree. "Epilogue" is a terrible finale to the entire Batman Beyond saga. Seeing Batman sitting by Ace's side is completely out of character. It was Superman who should've supported her.

Generic comment for the algorithm.

ENOUGH ALREADY!

@Venxous

3 ай бұрын

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