Batman and Harley Quinn: WILL IT CANON? DCAU or No?

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It's all come down to this: witness the historic finale to the Watchtower Database's long-running cinematic storyline. It's the treacherous Dr. ManHatTed against James and Mattie in the trial of the century. One last showdown to determine the fate of all DC animated continuity...and the world.
The Watchtower Database Story Finale
Batman and Harley Quinn: Will It Canon?
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• I’ve Got Mattie In My ...
0:00 - Recap
5:02 - Intro
13:05 - The Batman TAS World
16:51 - Neutral as Possible
20:02 - Who Decides What's Canon?
24:56 - DC Doesn't Know
26:51 - Tie-In Comics and You
34:20 - Setting the Tone
37:38 - Adjacent
42:39 - A Continuum
46:50 - Other Authority
49:34 - Continuity Problems
51:20 - The Final Verdict
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  • @dcauwatchtower
    @dcauwatchtower Жыл бұрын

    BUY THE POSTER! dcauwatchtower.creator-spring.com/listing/manhatted-poster SUPPORT US on Patreon! patreon.com/dcauwatchtower Patreon supporters will be getting access VERY SOON to a big dump of behind-the-scenes photos and videos from our time creating the 3-part story finale. We cannot thank you enough, patrons--YOU MADE THIS HAPPEN! If you'd like to catch up on the story so far, here is the full playlist! kzread.info/head/PLZ1WxFp2AMZPw6qflnpLXeGmxL6oviqyM Ones we'd HIGHLY recommend: - The DCAU's Continuity is Beyond Saving! - Batman The Adventures Continue: WIC? - Will the MULTIVERSE Ever End? - The POISON IVY Clone Theory Explained Lastly, we just wanted to give a huge thank you to EVERYONE who's followed and supported us on this journey. This is by far not the end of the channel, but absolutely a new beginning. We are SO beyond-words excited to finally share this finale with you.

  • @TheHeroHaven
    @TheHeroHaven Жыл бұрын

    I like to think Bruce Tim watches these and purposely makes things contradict each other just so he can watch you guys slowly go crazy trying to figure it out

  • @Elfenlied8675309

    @Elfenlied8675309

    Жыл бұрын

    I think it's honestly just because Bruce doesn't care to keep up with canon or trying to balance it anymore, I mean it's been like 30 years.

  • @paulakroy2635

    @paulakroy2635

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Elfenlied8675309I mean honestly story should before cannon.

  • @Deoxys911
    @Deoxys911 Жыл бұрын

    Watching all of the scenes with the 2D character in a real world environment made me realize just how much I miss all those old Cartoon Network commercials that used that style (and the similar CGI "City" bumpers, for that matter). I don't know if it's feasible with how much work is involved, but I would love to see more videos feature 2D animated characters like that in the future!

  • @dcauwatchtower

    @dcauwatchtower

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you! Godzilla Mendoza did a great job with Kurt. If you haven’t checked it out yet, I’d recommend our “The DCAU Multiverse: Revisited” video from May, it’s got a few references to CN City!

  • @gamindamien8196
    @gamindamien8196 Жыл бұрын

    I guess it’s kinda like a band with their music. BTAS was Bruce Tim’s first album. He made songs in a style he was passionate about, it hit big, everyone admired it, it spawned a bunch of shows and movies made by other people (bands making the same “style of music”) DECADES pass. He’s made *many* “albums” each with different themes and stories in them. In his eyes, they’re not necessarily the same, but they’re all connected because it’s coming FROM HIM. Millions of people can listen to the same song and interpret it differently, everyone can have a different take on it (including the artist). You get a hit or miss situation when you ask the creator what their art *means* because you take away what it could mean to YOU. Which I’d argue is the point of art. But at the same time, depending on who you are, you could get a new/deeper appreciation for the art *because* you know the meaning. Personally, I’m with the Adjacent thought process. Sure things are off and inconsistent, but it’s fun imagining how the stories *could* be connected

  • @pebblebrookbooks4852

    @pebblebrookbooks4852

    Ай бұрын

    Love this perspective.

  • @legoben98productions
    @legoben98productions Жыл бұрын

    22:52 Kevin’s expression is hilarious. The 😮 is surely a genuine shock for him too. rip Kevin Conroy

  • @bigk9000
    @bigk9000 Жыл бұрын

    Wouldn't the simplest explanation be that the movie is being told from Harley Quinn's point-of-view, making her an unreliable narrator? It leaves room to make this movie, in a way, to be both canon and non-canon at the same time.

  • @selfimprovement5873

    @selfimprovement5873

    3 ай бұрын

    I like this, explains why some characters felt "off"

  • @jagnestormskull3178

    @jagnestormskull3178

    2 ай бұрын

    So, basically every TES in-game book then?

  • @pebblebrookbooks4852

    @pebblebrookbooks4852

    Ай бұрын

    This works too.

  • @AstraFulminous
    @AstraFulminous Жыл бұрын

    Theory: When Batman & Green Lantern went back in time they subtlely changed the timeline. Making everything in continuity. Or just Parallel Worlds

  • @jonbrewer297

    @jonbrewer297

    Жыл бұрын

    So, Convergence, basically. This movie with Harley Quinn remains the most controversial. Bruce Timm saying Dick is "a player" in canon, except that reputation was largely because of one annual trying to give him and Barbara a history. The exact history they chose is, umm, Didio must've been involved. This feels a lot like Sins Past. Except it's dumb for the opposite reason: No one thought Gwen Stacy was innocent. She'd invited Peter to see _I Am Curious (Yellow)_ after all. With Dick Grayson, we have been told over and over, throughout his adult life, that he's a bit neurotic about such things. It even has the same Sins Past Worst Timing Ever. Sins Past has her have Norman Osborn's children (over the course of a weekend) just before he kills her and now every Marvel artist has to draw Spider-Man looking at the George Washington bridge mournfully, almost as a rite of passage. Now, this annual, takes place in this weird time warp where things happen out of sequence and people are younger than they should be and this sex scene occurs right after the first time he was raped. (Or the first however many times, because, well, yeah.) Let me repeat that: Dick Grayson's reputation as a player is one annual, clearly intended for shippers, which is so incompetently written that it manages to make both ships look bad, and the timeline is completely out of sync with canon (since the first mention of Oracle is in 1988, and once Jason dies, Dick is pretty much in a progressively worse place), and it implies sleeping with Dick is what inspired her to become Oracle because God forbid a woman make any decisions on her own, and the climax of this story (phrasing!) occurs in officially the worst possible time it could occur.

  • @Longshanks1690
    @Longshanks1690 Жыл бұрын

    54:55 - 57:35 This speech is a masterpiece. Everything about is powerful and emotional, and executed as perfectly as the highlight of a project like this can be. Everyone involved with it should be proud of themselves for helping to bring it to life. ❤

  • @pirate4460
    @pirate4460 Жыл бұрын

    To me, when someone is younger, they want to find a way for everything to fit in the same universe, and jump through tons of hoops to INCLUDE lots of different media in the same universe, like when you play with action figures of different brands or try to make your favorite movies fit in the same universe. But when you get older and grumpier, you go out of your way to EXCLUDE content that you have decided you don't like. For example the people that don't like Star Wars episode 8 or Indiana Jones 4.

  • @selfimprovement5873

    @selfimprovement5873

    3 ай бұрын

    Star Wars Episode 8 What that's? Don't make up numbers lol

  • @scrudge5352
    @scrudge5352 Жыл бұрын

    Finally! An entire month dedicated to my favorite DC character Adam Strange, and his trademark zeta beam technology! He truly is the linchpin to the entire DCAU! Btw, I was a bit confused by those boomerang-headed robots at the end, what was all that about?

  • @onniantikainen2948
    @onniantikainen2948 Жыл бұрын

    Wow, I was not expecting a full on philosophical debate about the nature of continuity!

  • @gabrielmartinssz
    @gabrielmartinssz Жыл бұрын

    Now that the storyline is wrapped you guys can finally make a video about aglets and their true sinister purpose

  • @tiptapricot
    @tiptapricot Жыл бұрын

    This was absolutely fantastic!! I couldn’t tune into the livestream but was so excited to get to this and it didn’t disappoint. The court set up into the classic will it canon detail format was so smooth and fun. Kurt being voiced and animated absolutely amazingly added such a fun vibe to everything and brought an interesting character dimension to everything. He fascinated me and really made the whole thing feel cinematic (beyond the already amazing filming and work). The cameos by voice actors and production staff and colorists was so fun and u found myself smiling and saying “oh my gosh!! everyone got to be a part of this that’s so fun!!” The other Matties and Jameses showing up followed by an Amazo speech and them being taken back to their homes was such a good twist and very satisfying. And I know this is skipping right to the end but the message about canon being what is interpreted by the viewer and that we hold onto it so tightly because it makes the characters feel closer and real to us, feel more personal and tangible, was just so so well done and such a poignant and deep message that hit hard. Because it’s true! Art is interpreted by the viewer and is inherently subjective and with something as personal as cartoons that shaped us that adds a different element to all of it. BUT AGHH THE REAL KICKER THE END THE END!! The synthoids were so well animated and the second they showed up I just smiled at my screen. Mattie’s excitement was my excitement. ZETA *MONTH*???? IM SO EXCITED AND SO EXCITED FOR MORE STORY AND MORE WONDERFUL WORK!! You guys always knock it out of the park and this was absolutely worth the wait. Congrats on such a fantastic project getting released and getting all the love it deserves. I’ll be tuning in heavily to every zeta video and truly know we all appreciate all y’all’s work! Congrats congrats congrats, here’s to more database! Far into the future from now, whenever now is…

  • @dcauwatchtower

    @dcauwatchtower

    Жыл бұрын

    This comment means so much. Thank you!!!

  • @Baikanon
    @Baikanon Жыл бұрын

    “Heart canon” is the best thing you guys have ever written

  • @PhoenixGodwin
    @PhoenixGodwin Жыл бұрын

    Wow, great job everyone! This came out so well and it was a blast to watch! I can't believe some of the special effects, also!

  • @mattiesavannahpahl9934

    @mattiesavannahpahl9934

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad you were here dude! Hope you're doing well!

  • @PhoenixGodwin

    @PhoenixGodwin

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mattiesavannahpahl9934 I'm glad I caught the premiere, it was a fun time! I hope you're doing well also :)

  • @dtfilmmaker
    @dtfilmmaker Жыл бұрын

    I don't know what adjective to use to say this video was way way more than good, amazing or incredible but holy moly it was! Let's hope you guys reach millions of views and likes, you truly deserve it! Looking forward big time to what's next, it was worth the waiting time!

  • @seanewing204
    @seanewing204 Жыл бұрын

    My issue isn't the details you mentioned… though they do bother me. My issue is the broad strokes: The way everyone, including Batman, was insecure and unfocused. Hiding the fact that he was enjoying the music and grandstanding by drinking the milk, kissing Harley on the cheek with Nightwing, smiling at the thought of *burning Floronic Man alive.* None of these match the B:TAS Batman, they feel more like The Brave and the Bold or Lego Batman. Nightwing was constantly playing catch-up and getting sidetracked… it was terrible. There's also how unkind he was. I mentioned the Floronic Man thing above, but there's also his refusal to give Harley a chance, his refusal to show her any courtesy (like the awful bathroom stop scene), his smile after beating the barful of criminals, and his treatment of Booster and the "lesser" League members. In B:TAS, Batman rooted for his enemies to turn over a new leaf. Harley's Holiday, Second Chances, Harlequinade… he wasn't naive (Riddler's Reform and House and Garden), but he wasn't callous either (Lock-Up). The humor in the movie was also off. Not because I didn't like it (I chuckled and laughed a few times), but because it didn't fit the style of B:TAS. In The Animated Series, the humor was character and dialogue driven - a bad pun from Joker or Robin, a side comment from Alfred, an interaction between Bullock or Harley and most other characters. In B&H, the humor is juvenile and subject based - fart jokes, crass sexual humor, swears (often cut short for ratings reasons). I can't think of any Batmanimation that's this """mature,""" though the Harley Quinn cartoon comes the closest. Finally, there's the designs. Nightwing was close enough, but Batman had a blue version of his TNBA costume, the Batmobile was anachronistic, the electric Batarang was different (and treated as new)… it was a mash up more than anything, and that's ignoring that he should be wearing the JLU costume, especially if Dick's been Nightwing for over a decade. The music, the voices (well, two of them), and often the settings felt like B:TAS, but so much else was just _off._ I can see the argument for including it in the DCAU, especially post-Batman Beyond, but there's just too much fundamentally against it.

  • @indie-mox7473
    @indie-mox7473 Жыл бұрын

    That "YYYYYAAAAHHHH!!!" at the end there was perfect. xD I'm Excited for Zeta Month!

  • @jackservans6906
    @jackservans6906 Жыл бұрын

    The fact that Shaw exists in this continuity makes me think he still starred in a Steel movie.

  • @Eric_1991
    @Eric_1991 Жыл бұрын

    I love the Kurtwood Smith/Red Forman jokes in regard to the prosecuter lol

  • @anamateurelf610
    @anamateurelf610 Жыл бұрын

    Kinda miss when "Will it Canon?" Was just James standing in a kitchen set talking about this stuff for a while and then trying to shove a DVD into a canister.

  • @mattiesavannahpahl9934

    @mattiesavannahpahl9934

    Жыл бұрын

    Luckily, those early episodes are still very much available to watch! Hope you have fun revisiting them! 😊 We started conceptualizing this ending very early on (going back through our messages the other night, seems to be around the time of episode 2 or 3?) so it was always planned to head this way, and we wanted to go as big as possible to help make the wait as worth it as possible since covid set us back a bit! That said, if you've made it to the end... now that the fictional me is back from the future, Data James is out of the computer, and *spoilers* is out of the picture, there's a lot of room for us to return to a more stripped down approach. Remember, this took us 4 years to make! It's an event! Not every episode of the show will be this in perpetuity.

  • @anamateurelf610

    @anamateurelf610

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mattiesavannahpahl9934 oh goodness! Thanks for the reply. Don't know why it surprised me so much, I've been responded to on one of your videos before. I totally appreciate the work that must have gone into this ridiculously complex arc. It's on an epic scale and you deserve all the respect. Seriously. Didn't mean to downplay that or anything: and I've definitely enjoyed the ride! "Will it Canon?" has been up there among my favorite segments on the channel since it's inception. I'm not even super into canonicity, I just enjoyed learning about new things that may or may not have been part of the DCAU. For instance it never occurred to me that Teen Titans might be in the same timeline as Justice League TAS. ( I grew up with both.) And exploring that possibility with you guys was fun even though it turned out to be (as I suspected) Not Canon. I am enjoying/have enjoyed this big story arc. Just feeling a little nostalgic for the simplicity of the early days. No shade, you've done a fantastic job making a really cool thing. Keep up the good work!

  • @AdamMullen
    @AdamMullen Жыл бұрын

    So excited for everyone to watch this!

  • @thebatcave111
    @thebatcave111 Жыл бұрын

    Hahaha. I'm really sad that this only has 35k views. Clearly a hell of a lot of work went into this. And it wasn't even needed, which is what makes it so great. Keep it up guys

  • @gravity119
    @gravity119 Жыл бұрын

    So cool! As someone who joined this community back in the initial series of Batman and Harley Quinn videos, this really feels like coming full circle. Congratulations team, may the DCAU live on forever!

  • @diegoortiz5139
    @diegoortiz5139 Жыл бұрын

    I can't properly put into words how great this video was, you all put alot of work and thought into it and it definitely shows! Can't believe I've been subscribed to the channel for about 4 Years now and you've re-opened my love for the universe I grew up with. So thank you for all these years of entertaining and educating me on one of the most important franchises in my life.

  • @legoben98productions
    @legoben98productions Жыл бұрын

    46:18 “I’m not evil” Also 46:47 me: that’s the thing that makes ya evil dr. Ted! You don’t just move earths into the sun, that’ll kill them all and erase it all!

  • @M.D.V2001
    @M.D.V2001 Жыл бұрын

    Had to wait till I got home from work to watch this. God that was a long shift but absolutely worth it. Your guys' storytelling and passion for these videos and the DCAU as a whole is inspiring.

  • @pessimisticprofessorfarnsw3241
    @pessimisticprofessorfarnsw32412 күн бұрын

    This is my guilty pleasure movie. Harley and Nightwing is such an underrated ship.

  • @anthonychang1426
    @anthonychang1426 Жыл бұрын

    You guys did such an amazing job. Can’t wait for November. This channel is soooo underrated.

  • @BonJoviBeatlesLedZep
    @BonJoviBeatlesLedZep9 ай бұрын

    Man, I love this channel and have been binging it and it deserves SO much more recognition and support. But I don't think lore movies interspersed into the main content just works anymore. I don't know any of the pretext so I just skipped through all of it. Quinton Reviews did it well for me by putting his lore movie entirely at the end of the content for that particular video. Still love the channel just something I personally did not like here. The title and thumbnail and promise of the video premise were just not present in the content I was presented with and I keep getting interjections to a skit I don't understand because I skipped the setup. It's also a bit annoying how you did the nerd voice and made fun of io9 in a lore video. It feels like. Stones glass houses.

  • @dcauwatchtower

    @dcauwatchtower

    9 ай бұрын

    It’s been a running gag, but I getcha. Yeah, this (and Zeta Month that follows) were the big grand finale, it’s over now.

  • @JeremyC007
    @JeremyC007 Жыл бұрын

    This was absolutely fantastic! Loved the set. Honestly, your dedication to the DCAU makes me very happy to be a life long fan. Can’t wait to see what’s next!

  • @ashleytuchin7693
    @ashleytuchin7693 Жыл бұрын

    Guys, seriously, that was flippin' amazing! I don't know how you pulled it off to such a professional standard, but you deserve all the praise in the world! Oh and that ending! Guys, that ending! This is the most excited I've ever been in a non-sexual way. We're finally getting Zeta, baby!!!!!

  • @gaminganimators7000

    @gaminganimators7000

    Жыл бұрын

    Didn't need to specify your excitedness

  • @VanFactor
    @VanFactor Жыл бұрын

    I have been catching up on your videos. Your special effects, creativity, and content are amazing.

  • @dcauwatchtower

    @dcauwatchtower

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much!

  • @tabiusthompson8101
    @tabiusthompson8101 Жыл бұрын

    I grew up watching the Dcau it contains my favorite superhero stories and I was really the only one who watched them being an only child and I thought it was sad that not to many people talk about how cool it was. So when I found out that there was a channel on KZread that sole purpose was to discuss all things dcau I subscribed immediately and have enjoyed many videos. But this three part finale was something incredible to watch I had such a fun time picking up on all the references you placed in here to the dcau like the judges in the back having the character design for the judge from TNBA or the prosecutor being that alien from justice league it was all so fun to watch and enjoy and I thank you for making these videos and hope you make more.

  • @dcauwatchtower

    @dcauwatchtower

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you, Tabius!

  • @tabiusthompson8101

    @tabiusthompson8101

    Жыл бұрын

    Wow I can’t believe you guys actually replied to me😂 looking forward to the zeta video also looking forward to more legacies of the dcau stories.

  • @dcauwatchtower

    @dcauwatchtower

    Жыл бұрын

    @@tabiusthompson8101 Zeta VIDEOS! It's a whole month!

  • @he_will_be_back
    @he_will_be_back10 ай бұрын

    I love this video because it makes nerd culture more realized

  • @Cdr2002
    @Cdr2002 Жыл бұрын

    Better than Doomsday Clock

  • @Miguel_Aleman
    @Miguel_Aleman Жыл бұрын

    This was a fantastic production. Thank you so mucho for your effort from title sequence to credits. I"ve been away as a viewer attempting, like we all are, to put my life together, but my enjoyment is still here. Thank you, again, and greetings from México. P.S. I just remembered I have not gotten my Mr. Wing Lewds. Still waiting for those.

  • @dragonusmorphin4748
    @dragonusmorphin4748 Жыл бұрын

    What a way to end the will it canon series (I assume it is the end, right?)

  • @dcauwatchtower

    @dcauwatchtower

    Жыл бұрын

    Sure… ;)

  • @commanderblackheart5856
    @commanderblackheart5856 Жыл бұрын

    Wait, what about Staro? Was it teliported back to it's univerce too when it fell off of it's host? Or is it floating around, waiting for it's next opretunity for conquest?

  • @anthonykarnes6804

    @anthonykarnes6804

    4 күн бұрын

    My son, spelling.

  • @ItsOver9000Productions
    @ItsOver9000Productions Жыл бұрын

    A Fucking MASTERPIECE this turned out to be. This channel is amazing.

  • @gc2871
    @gc28714 ай бұрын

    Ive recently found tour channel and have been watching all your vids. This shit is amazing haha. I love this channel. Please keep up the good work! 👌👌

  • @hiddenjello61
    @hiddenjello61 Жыл бұрын

    There’s a continuity error with Kurt in the episode he appears in season 1 ep 4 of Jl he’s wearing a white robe does this mean this an alternate version of Kurt or is just wearing a new robe🤔

  • @dcauwatchtower

    @dcauwatchtower

    Жыл бұрын

    Not a “continuity error,” it was a conscious choice. We wanted him to match the other judges and Manhatted better, to be sure the audience understood he was “on their side.” In our heart canon, this is the same version from the episode. But in the end, it doesn’t really matter. ;)

  • @supershotgun6921
    @supershotgun692111 ай бұрын

    The writers of Spiderman Across the Spiderverse were taking notes

  • @goldreaper4209
    @goldreaper4209 Жыл бұрын

    “I post on the Twitter!” hit me too hard 😂

  • @ne3856
    @ne3856 Жыл бұрын

    This is now my favourite movie of the year!

  • @TMSokoya
    @TMSokoya Жыл бұрын

    If the future of this channel is continuing to make these interconnected films, I'm all for it. That tease for the next project 😉 was absolutely masterful.

  • @steelydyl
    @steelydyl Жыл бұрын

    Have I already watched this several times? Yes. Will I watch it many more times? Yes. This is fantastic and deserves way more views, watch and share people!

  • @kaine8911
    @kaine8911 Жыл бұрын

    As a person who only wanted to watch for the is it canon and not the story bit: I liked everything about this, including story

  • @polkadotproductions3459
    @polkadotproductions3459 Жыл бұрын

    Man this was as great as that time poison ivy nearly smothered Batman and robin in those vines, the ones with the really sharp thorns.

  • @Alex-nc2eu
    @Alex-nc2euАй бұрын

    I think continuity is a pain for these types of stories. Harley's ending in the Return of the Joker movie was written at a time when Harley was a very different character. Harley now has evolved so much, that it's a shame that all her growth and development just puts her in a Status quo, from 20 years ago.

  • @Ismazing
    @Ismazing Жыл бұрын

    This is amazing, guys. Can't wait to see what's next from you.

  • @FunnyHaHa420
    @FunnyHaHa4209 ай бұрын

    Kurt! Nice nod, because the Space Prosecutor guy was voiced by Kurtwood Smith.

  • @dcauwatchtower

    @dcauwatchtower

    9 ай бұрын

    You got it!

  • @TrumbullComic
    @TrumbullComic Жыл бұрын

    IT JUST DOESN'T MATTER!!!

  • @loke6664
    @loke66647 ай бұрын

    I don't think smaller continuity errors make it not canon, you can't expect the creators to know every other entry in the "canon" exactly without some kind of canon master and even someone like Bruce can't remember every tiny detail he made over 20 years ago. There will always be some smaller problems in any new media. However, other movies and shows are clearly not set in the same universe and have large differences. Yeah, the humor of Batman and Harley Quinn is generally more then in BTAS but even that had varying humor from episode to episode, some were really dark and serious, others rather fun so I don't think that proves anything either. Warner will just say whatever earns them most money but I think Bruce likely know what he is talking about. So yeah, my vote is that it is. George Lucas did have people to keep track on continuity for his 6 Star wars movies and yet there are problems and far larger then anything here. For instance didn't Ben recognize the robot he traveled half the galaxy with when he met him in a new hope, R2D2 might have got his memory wiped but Ben spent years with R2D2 and never got his memory wiped and that is just one of many things. So with the continuity thinking, the prequels happened in another universe no matter what Lucas claimed which is pretty ridicoulus. There are even more errors in the new movies but I like to pretend they don't exist. You will never get things perfect, so smaller errors is still fine. Teen Titans and Young Justice however have a large difference that can't just be explained by a few simple mistakes so those are clearly not canon. The Martian Manhunter is the last surviving Martian in Justice league and you could argue that Miss Martian survived too (and J'onn might not have sensed her because she was far away, in cryo sleep or whatever), but in Young Justice the Martians are all doing fine and have at least 1 huge city so it is clearly not canon (and you find lots of things like that there).

  • @millicay666
    @millicay666 Жыл бұрын

    This has lived up to and surpassed my extremely high expectations. Amazing job, guys!

  • @thehedgehognerd
    @thehedgehognerd Жыл бұрын

    THAT WAS AMAZING! TOTALLY WORTH THE HYPE! 100/10! Well done guys!

  • @williamavitt8264
    @williamavitt8264 Жыл бұрын

    Whoever is doing the voice of the Prosecutor does an amazing Kurtwood Smith

  • @dcauwatchtower

    @dcauwatchtower

    Жыл бұрын

    I’ll let him know, thank you!

  • @dcauwatchtower

    @dcauwatchtower

    Жыл бұрын

    It’s Jason Stephens, by the way. You can find him at his website jasonsvoices.com

  • @mattiepahl898
    @mattiepahl898 Жыл бұрын

    Another certifiable banger from th... Wait... My actual name is on this alt, isnt it?

  • @99jmaster
    @99jmaster Жыл бұрын

    Can't escape the (spoilers) on any Watchtower video

  • @wwemusicfanC
    @wwemusicfanC Жыл бұрын

    I get the feeling the Watchtower guys think people dislike the movie because its a comedy, which isn't the case. The sex and fart jokes weren't clever or witty and they certainly weren't funny. I will still argue that the tee-hee-so-random Harley we see in this movie is not in line with how she's been portrayed for the majority of the DCAU. She was silly and ditzy on occasion, but not an annoyingly obnoxious non sequitur all the time that she is in the movie. I never really cared wether it was canon or not. I just thought it was a bad movie and wasn't on par with the rest of the DCAU, even some of the goofier stuff. That said, loved the production and "canon" debates. Glad you got to finish the story arc.

  • @dcauwatchtower

    @dcauwatchtower

    Жыл бұрын

    It’s continuing now in Zeta Month!

  • @Batgirl_fangirl
    @Batgirl_fangirl Жыл бұрын

    Well now, that was simply fantastic! Awesome job from start to finish. I loved every second of it. Congratulations to everyone involved. Well worth the wait. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

  • @omixzine
    @omixzine Жыл бұрын

    Como siempre excelente análisis, lo que más me gusto fueron sus puntos sobre la canonicidad de cualquier universo ficticio, y lo que significa para nosotros , esos personajes son parte de nuestras vidas , y queremos darles sentido , no siempre lo tendrá y tiene uno que aceptarlo, pero no significa que no se pueda buscar que cuadre, solo que no es el principal sentido

  • @juliiju0484

    @juliiju0484

    Жыл бұрын

    Muy cierto

  • @JoaquimGamerYT

    @JoaquimGamerYT

    Жыл бұрын

    OMGGGG otros hispanohablantes en este canal, que emocion

  • @amateurcustoms5401
    @amateurcustoms5401 Жыл бұрын

    Is the link to the Legacies of the DCAU comics broken? I'm out of the loop on this

  • @mattiesavannahpahl9934

    @mattiesavannahpahl9934

    Жыл бұрын

    Looks like it. Just brought this up to James! Thanks for the heads up!

  • @dcauwatchtower

    @dcauwatchtower

    Жыл бұрын

    Should be fixed now!

  • @CatManThree
    @CatManThree2 ай бұрын

    As someone who has little attatchment to the DCAU, this film always seemed like simple fanservice thing and never something you were meant to really think much about. Something like Return of the Caped Crusader. Youre not ment to view that film as a literal return to the world of the 60s batman tv show. Its not something youre meant to put much thought into, just a fun referential romp utilizing the old characters.

  • @mattmanjgigs1229
    @mattmanjgigs1229 Жыл бұрын

    umm you guys batman and harley quinn might take place between the end of justice league unlimited and the batman beyond return of the joker flashback sequence that explains why robin (tim drake) is not there cause it is clearly stated the league exists i realize there's minor hiccups in continuity however i'm no expert but still I'm disappointed these points weren't considered

  • @dcauwatchtower

    @dcauwatchtower

    Жыл бұрын

    We did a timeline video for the movie a few years ago, you’re pretty dang close! Go check it out in our “History of the DCAU” playlist!

  • @hewouwu590
    @hewouwu590 Жыл бұрын

    This is amazing!! Glad to see how far y'all have come. :)

  • @stdinkov
    @stdinkov Жыл бұрын

    So is it canon or not?

  • @calebp01_
    @calebp01_ Жыл бұрын

    Who did you get to voice the animated prosecuter?

  • @dcauwatchtower

    @dcauwatchtower

    Жыл бұрын

    Voice actor/impressionist Jason Stephens! He’s credited in the end credits 🤙

  • @GamerSlyRatchet1
    @GamerSlyRatchet1 Жыл бұрын

    I was engaged through the entire time, but that final reveal? A WHOLE MONTH, BABY! EDIT: Also, was this video written WAY back? Because I was surprised the appearance of [REDACTED] in the latest season of Young Justice wasn't mentioned during the "canon adjacent" section.

  • @skarloey1214

    @skarloey1214

    Жыл бұрын

    I think it was filmed like a year ago

  • @dcauwatchtower

    @dcauwatchtower

    Жыл бұрын

    It was indeed filmed almost a year ago. But I did update the “adjacent” segment after that episode aired. It inspired me to add more than I had. But the story is set in 2019, so we wouldn’t have known about that to use in our arguments. Will definitely talk about it whenever we cover GLTAS someday!

  • @GamerSlyRatchet1

    @GamerSlyRatchet1

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dcauwatchtower Oh sweet. Looking forward to it!

  • @bagginsfrodos
    @bagginsfrodos Жыл бұрын

    ABSOLUTE MAD MEN! I LOVE IT ❤️ 😍 💖 ❣️

  • @tekimpo
    @tekimpo Жыл бұрын

    Great video

  • @shelbybayer200
    @shelbybayer2006 ай бұрын

    People who still don't think it's Canon By the idea that The more adult content in the Batman and Harley Quinn movie specifically Ahem, Harley literally says "Come on, Mister J. Don't you want to reve up your Harley ?" That's Innuendo for the...... Horizontal shuffle guys

  • @prometheusmodelow8322
    @prometheusmodelow8322 Жыл бұрын

    Kurt is the best character, i hope he is okay.

  • @DEGdeatonegabbard
    @DEGdeatonegabbard Жыл бұрын

    Fantastic production value!! Holy shit great job guys, I need a video compilation of it all to watch it in order again now

  • @dcauwatchtower

    @dcauwatchtower

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much! The “I’ve Got Mattie in My Basement” playlist is there for you, but we’ll also be hosting a complete story watch-through with live commentary next Sunday!

  • @DEGdeatonegabbard

    @DEGdeatonegabbard

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dcauwatchtower That’s sick! Is it going to be recorded and posted on the channel too?

  • @ThePodtower

    @ThePodtower

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DEGdeatonegabbard Probably here on the Podtower!

  • @DEGdeatonegabbard

    @DEGdeatonegabbard

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ThePodtower Perfect! Thank you.

  • @hunterread3507
    @hunterread3507Ай бұрын

    Call Strait made a movie with this one fantastic video really hit home.❤

  • @creekmudrecords6822
    @creekmudrecords6822 Жыл бұрын

    Amazing! Absolutely incredible! how does this not have 6 digit numbers yet? Best video this channel ever made, and I'm not just saying that because I'm Mattie on an alt trying to boost our numbers in the algorithm as I stream for the 17th time!

  • @mentallyretardedturtle2641
    @mentallyretardedturtle26413 ай бұрын

    Better vfx than secret invasion

  • @thesecondslit1710
    @thesecondslit1710 Жыл бұрын

    Not bad, pal... not bad at all !

  • @LeviChurch
    @LeviChurch Жыл бұрын

    Okay, that was the greatest video on the channel. You have outdone yourselves this time honestly. I loved it.

  • @plsdontbeahero
    @plsdontbeahero Жыл бұрын

    I love this channel

  • @shanemartin9539
    @shanemartin9539 Жыл бұрын

    I feel like I've been waiting years for this😅😅

  • @jermo1470
    @jermo1470 Жыл бұрын

    Amazing work guys. At the end of the day does canon matter (got emotional here 54:55 )

  • @VeryDryBones
    @VeryDryBones Жыл бұрын

    Amazing

  • @teodorapetkovic
    @teodorapetkovic Жыл бұрын

    just, wow! this was epic from start to finish.

  • @joeker5208
    @joeker5208 Жыл бұрын

    Wow. After that powerful speech/debate on canon, I think there’s only truly one thing to ask………..so is like TDKR canon because Bruce Timm worked on it😂😂

  • @Spokavriel
    @Spokavriel Жыл бұрын

    Why doesn't someone do a fanfiction loosely based on the DC AU Synthoids inspired by the movie A. I. where still functioning damaged synthoids start restoring function to their co-fallen somewhere that the watchtower sends their scrapped equipment to. Did anyone ever cover how and why Zeta's head went to a more humanish pill shape? In the end the framing element on this of the trial padded it out, like my comment is with the fanfiction question and like with other will it cannon just makes it feel like a lot of work for little point. Is that even the end of the character? its not like there was a body left for a he's dead declaration.

  • @dcauwatchtower

    @dcauwatchtower

    Жыл бұрын

    Guess you’ll have to check out Zeta Month! It’s all up and available on the channel.

  • @robertroy92
    @robertroy92 Жыл бұрын

    good job fantastic job great job

  • @IAmBlindProphet
    @IAmBlindProphet Жыл бұрын

    What the hell youtube didn’t tell me this dropped!!

  • @dcauwatchtower

    @dcauwatchtower

    Жыл бұрын

    But you found it! Yay!

  • @IAmBlindProphet

    @IAmBlindProphet

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dcauwatchtower I check the channel every week or two just in case I missed something ♥️

  • @austinchuilli3652
    @austinchuilli36525 ай бұрын

    I mean you can explain it as the flash or another speedster messing with time so continuity changed.

  • @theonlyron
    @theonlyron25 күн бұрын

    Yeah sure, the Timmverse is great and all, but I think we're all here for the WatchtowerVerse! 😆

  • @VanVeniVidiVici
    @VanVeniVidiVici Жыл бұрын

    Thanks to Chip Zdarsky, I can no longer hear the word failsafe in the context of Batman without asking WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME?

  • @skarloey1214
    @skarloey1214 Жыл бұрын

    Amazing Work Everyone 👏 Also ZETA!!! MONTH!!!

  • @jonbrewer297
    @jonbrewer297 Жыл бұрын

    The question isn't will it canon, but should it canon

  • @QuietVillain
    @QuietVillain Жыл бұрын

    Good question for the dcau is are there more than one Flash?

  • @dcauwatchtower

    @dcauwatchtower

    Жыл бұрын

    Doing a video on that to time with the Flash movie!

  • @justice_productions_
    @justice_productions_ Жыл бұрын

    All roads have led us here!!!!

  • @valan762
    @valan762 Жыл бұрын

    Can't wait for it. I miss these videos 🥲

  • @QuietVillain
    @QuietVillain Жыл бұрын

    Dwayne McDuffie would have loved you guys

  • @ct-1177
    @ct-11777 ай бұрын

    53:50 interesting debate here on canon

  • @Cdr2002
    @Cdr2002 Жыл бұрын

    Love the Q references

  • @SirDot
    @SirDot Жыл бұрын

    This is so perfect. I honestly didn't see that ending coming, can't wait.

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