Bathroom Remodel 72 - Tile Backer-to-Drywall Seam Scenarios | DensShield | Cement Board

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In this video, I walk through several scenarios on finishing DensShield tile backer-to-drywall seams. *These scenarios most likely apply to other tile backers - consult the product manufacturer's instructions or contact technical support*
**Special note: Scenario 4 is a tricky one because of each product's composition; DensShield is more like a drywall than a cement-based product, which is why I chose it for my situation.
Example: An analyst at James Hardie mentioned that a joint compound is fine to use at seams where it meets drywall well outside the wet area, BUT the tape should be alkali-resistant because Hardiebacker is a cement-based product; other tapes will break down over time. He recommended wetting the board slightly to minimize the amount of moisture sucked out of the joint compound by the Hardiebacker. **
Setting compounds that can be easily sanded, such as USG Easy Sand, are not recommended for skim coating DensShield, and they most likely are not recommended for skim coating other products: www.jlconline.com/how-to/exte...
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  • @DIYApprentice
    @DIYApprentice3 жыл бұрын

    Questions about how to finish the seams come up a lot, and I was a bit confused myself while researching this topic. Hopefully, this video will be useful. **Scenario 4: ** The one caveat in this video is scenario 4 when finishing joints well outside the wet area like the right wall in my bathroom. Since DensShield is not a cement-based product, I have the luxury of using a joint compound and mesh tape. Cement-based backers may require an alkali-resistant tape - **check with the backer manufacturer's tech support for proper guidance. ** For example, here's some Info I got from James Hardie's tech support: Joint compound is fine to use at seams where it meets drywall well outside the wet area, *BUT* the tape should be alkali-resistant because Hardiebacker is a cement-based product; other tapes will break down over time. He recommended wetting the board slightly to minimize the amount of moisture sucked out of the joint compound by the Hardiebacker. Setting compounds that can be easily sanded, such as USG Easy Sand, are not recommended for skim coating DensShield, and they most likely are not recommended for skim coating other backers: www.jlconline.com/how-to/exteriors/painting-densshield_o *Please leave a 👍and share the video* Visit our website ► DIYApprentice.com​ Click to Subscribe! ► bit.ly/2pEBg3m​ ▬▬Follow Us on Social Media▬▬ ️ Facebook ► bit.ly/2pAY8S3​ ️ Twitter ► bit.ly/2G7mRDz​ ️ Instagram ► bit.ly/2ILEKII​ ▬▬Tools and Materials▬▬ ️ DIY Apprentice Recommended Tools and Materials ► bit.ly/2T5psFw​ ️ Laticrete Hydro Ban ► amzn.to/2Re9E6x​ ️ Laticrete Hydro Ban Adhesive and Sealant ► amzn.to/3mtMMvs​ ️ Custom Building Products Prolite Thin-Set ► amzn.to/3fVWgOu​ ️ Schluter All-Set ► amzn.to/3uuRr2K​ ️ Schluter Kerdi Mixing Valve Seal ► amzn.to/3nuDMXb​ ️ Schluter Kerdi Pipe Seal (3/4") ► amzn.to/2QD4W2d​ ️ Schluter Kerdi Pipe Seal (1/2") ► amzn.to/3aMp09e​ ▬▬Video Equipment▬▬ ️ Camera used ► amzn.to/2GcpkOb​ ️ Lens used ► amzn.to/2Deu16S​ ️ Tripod ► amzn.to/2GbaM1c​ ️ RAM Suction Mount ► amzn.to/2Wz9PXh​ ️ Cyberlink PowerDirector ► bit.ly/2jTwGxT​ ️ Adobe Photoshop ► bit.ly/2V7nyUX​ ️ Camera Slider ► amzn.to/2WtD7GW​ ️ Deity V-Mic D3 Super-Cardioid Directional Shotgun Microphone ► amzn.to/2LI1lf7​ **This video was recorded in 4K resolution, so modify your settings accordingly if desired for better image quality** Disclosure: This video contains affiliate links, meaning, at no additional cost to you, I will receive a commission if you click through and make a purchase.

  • @nicholassinclair4589
    @nicholassinclair4589 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so so much. No one addresses ceiling and you have just killed it, sir.👍👍👍👍

  • @DIYApprentice

    @DIYApprentice

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for checking out the video! Glad it was useful.

  • @daveristau7804
    @daveristau7804Ай бұрын

    Thank you so much for the detailed Scenarios. I watched all of them and of course only one of them applies, but I know what to do now. So appreciate your help!!!

  • @DIYApprentice

    @DIYApprentice

    Ай бұрын

    Glad it was useful. Thanks for watching!

  • @zackgilbert9599
    @zackgilbert95992 жыл бұрын

    Perfect, the scenario approach is what very few if any do… love it 💪 this is what I look for everywhere.

  • @DIYApprentice

    @DIYApprentice

    2 жыл бұрын

    Glad it was useful. Thanks for checking out the video!

  • @msh4891
    @msh4891 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the thorough examination of all the different scenarios with great visuals!

  • @DIYApprentice

    @DIYApprentice

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for checking out the video!

  • @joem1956
    @joem19562 жыл бұрын

    Excellent information, you answered clearly and confidently what others left out or skimmed over. Your on the right track. Thanks a ton. Praying you do great buddy!

  • @DIYApprentice

    @DIYApprentice

    2 жыл бұрын

    Glad the video was useful. Thanks for watching it!

  • @godisgreat4096
    @godisgreat40962 жыл бұрын

    Very helpful. Searched videos for days. You gave me the answer in scenario 4 and 5. New sub. Thank you for sharing.

  • @DIYApprentice

    @DIYApprentice

    2 жыл бұрын

    Scenario 4 is a little tricky. I added some info to the pinned comment that might be useful. Thanks for subscribing!

  • @mikestieve5847
    @mikestieve58472 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very very much. Your videos are well done.

  • @DIYApprentice

    @DIYApprentice

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the kind words. Glad you enjoyed the video!

  • @jl9678
    @jl96782 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic info man. A thousand thanks

  • @DIYApprentice

    @DIYApprentice

    2 жыл бұрын

    Glad it was useful. Thanks for watching!

  • @bjdent
    @bjdent2 жыл бұрын

    excellent video. exactly what I needed!

  • @DIYApprentice

    @DIYApprentice

    2 жыл бұрын

    Great to hear. Thanks!

  • @inlinesix6694
    @inlinesix6694 Жыл бұрын

    Damn! Great video and just what I was looking for!!

  • @DIYApprentice

    @DIYApprentice

    Жыл бұрын

    Great to hear! Thanks for watching the video.

  • @ELI-vm9yf
    @ELI-vm9yf11 ай бұрын

    Just what I needed to know!!!!👍👌

  • @DIYApprentice

    @DIYApprentice

    11 ай бұрын

    Glad the video was useful. Thanks for watching!

  • @WalrusMcDonald12n2na2
    @WalrusMcDonald12n2na27 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the video buddy. I have to tile a shower for my grandpa and time is a huge factor so was not looking forward to using joint compound and primer taking up an extra day.

  • @DIYApprentice

    @DIYApprentice

    7 ай бұрын

    Glad you found the video useful. Thanks for watching!

  • @RegularJoes
    @RegularJoes Жыл бұрын

    FYI: a non-absorbent surface/backer board must extend to a minimum 72" above the drain flange

  • @DIYApprentice

    @DIYApprentice

    Жыл бұрын

    Do you have a source? Thanks. Using Google, the text appears to come from IPC.417.4.1.

  • @jeffdeluca1153
    @jeffdeluca1153 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent man thank you. This is EXACTLY what I need to know. Butting my tile backer up to existing wood lath and plaster. so looks like I mesh tape and thinset that joint, then tile with my bullnose to that region. Only need to know what to use on the plaster side of the bullnose to paint? Do I use the skim coat in that area for the purpose of then painting? Thanks a ton! Jeff

  • @DIYApprentice

    @DIYApprentice

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm not an expert, but my understanding is that if the plaster is in good shape and outside the wet area, you can just skim coat the region beyond the bullnose with joint compound. Hopefully, I understood your question correctly.

  • @jeffdeluca1153

    @jeffdeluca1153

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DIYApprentice yea you did. Plaster is solid at the joint. I was going to overlay drywall over that wall but that requires I keep the plasterninbthe tub area so my cement board flushes out with the drywall. That's just getting too think at the tub flange and my tile will darn near be at the radius going down into the tub.

  • @institches2750
    @institches2750 Жыл бұрын

    That was very useful! I wish I'd found this video earlier. Is there any scenario in which the thin-set, mesh tape, and aquadefense would extend 2-3 inches PAST the tile onto the finished wall? I ask because that's how my shower was tiled, and the tilers are telling me to skim the area with joint compound and paint it. However, the drywall was newly installed and painted days before they started. I'm not sure if there was a reason to do it like this, or if the tilers just misjudged how far they planned to bring the tile and I should be asking them to fix it..

  • @DIYApprentice

    @DIYApprentice

    Жыл бұрын

    You may be able to skim coat over the membrane. I would contact the product manufacturer's tech support, if you know which product was used, to verify. Thanks for checking out the video!

  • @institches2750

    @institches2750

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DIYApprentice Thanks for your response! I do know that's the solution. I just wasn't sure if the mess was necessary, or if the installers made a mistake and I needed to ask them to fix it.

  • @DIYApprentice

    @DIYApprentice

    Жыл бұрын

    @institches27 It's not typical to have liquid membrane on the exposed drywall.

  • @institches2750

    @institches2750

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DIYApprentice Thank you!

  • @Biscotti_Pippen
    @Biscotti_Pippen2 жыл бұрын

    Much appreciated, really needed the breakdown of different scenarios that other videos leave out. My situation is similar to Scenario 4, where my backer board ended further than I actually want to tile. One question I have is, elsewhere I've seen people say that the joint compound won't work on the cement board (mine is 1/2" hardie) without causing issues, however my seam will be well outside of the splash zone, so is this fine?

  • @DIYApprentice

    @DIYApprentice

    2 жыл бұрын

    Scenario 4 is a tricky one because of each product's composition, so I added a note to the pinned comment; DensShield is more like a drywall than a cement-based product, which is why I chose it for my situation. An analyst at James Hardie mentioned that a joint compound is fine to use at seams where it meets drywall well outside the wet area, **BUT** the tape should be alkali-resistant because Hardiebacker is a cement-based product; other tapes will break down over time. He recommended wetting the board slightly to minimize the amount of moisture sucked out of the joint compound by the Hardiebacker. Also, my understanding is that Hardiebacker is not quite 1/2" thick, so you may have to shim behind it to mate up to the drywall. Hope this helps. Thanks for the question - learned something myself 👍

  • @Biscotti_Pippen

    @Biscotti_Pippen

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@DIYApprentice Really appreciate the quick reply, we'll see how we go!

  • @128mishka
    @128mishka2 жыл бұрын

    My drywall is 1/2 thick, hardieboard is .42 inch thick, what do I need to do about that? I'm planning cover hardieboard only portion with tile. Thanks.

  • @DIYApprentice

    @DIYApprentice

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, I've heard about issues with Hardibacker not being 1/2" thick, which is why I crossed it off my list when I started shopping. You could try using drywall shims or cut slices of 2x material on a table saw...or exchange it for a different tile backer if that's still an option.

  • @jeffdeluca1153
    @jeffdeluca1153 Жыл бұрын

    Also, do you prefer Hardiebacker over Durock Cement Board? Thx again!

  • @DIYApprentice

    @DIYApprentice

    Жыл бұрын

    My experience with backer materials is very limited. Depending on the abutting material, the Hardibacker may need to be shimmed, since it isn't quite 1/2" thick. Durock is fairly heavy, and it appears to be harder to cut than Hardiebacker. I've seen that Durock is usually less expensive. Personally, I would use Durock on shower walls.

  • @MrV1776
    @MrV177610 ай бұрын

    why cant you use drywall under the shower tile? is there something special about backerboard?

  • @DIYApprentice

    @DIYApprentice

    10 ай бұрын

    A product like Kerdi could be applied over drywall as a protective membrane. Otherwise, it's best to install a product that is less likely to trap moisture, and many of the tile backers need some sort of moisture barrier behind or in front. DensShield, which is the product I installed, has a moisture-resistant membrane on its face. This video may be useful: kzread.info/dash/bejne/d3d6tsmrl7uTc7A.html

  • @gregonishi146
    @gregonishi1462 жыл бұрын

    Is it ok to tile over drywall and mud over backer board?

  • @DIYApprentice

    @DIYApprentice

    2 жыл бұрын

    If the drywall is in the shower, I would check out a product like Kerdi. Outside the shower, tile can be installed on drywall. There's some info in the description and pinned comment that may be useful regarding mud and backer board.

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