Bass Pickup Positions, and Combinations - Bass With 5 Pickups
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Here's a demo of a bass I modded with 5 pickups, to test how different pickup positions and combinations (series / parallel) affect tone.
In each of the sound demos, I play the same 21 example pickup combinations, in the same order.
Timestamps:
Fingerstyle, roundwound: 1:43
Slap, roundwound: 3:20
Pick, roundwound: 5:09
Fingerstyle, flatwound: 7:46
Discussion / conclusions: 9:38
String isolation test: 11:57
Sympathetic resonance: 12:29
Special thanks to my daughter's LOL Dolls, who photobombed half the shots. :)
More info:
Pickups are all Dimarzio Area Js side-by-side humbuckers, with separate wiring to the "E-A" and "D-G" coils. The 3 pickups on the bridge side are the bridge-spaced version, and the remaining 2 are the neck-spaced version, to best follow the string spacing.
In all demos, volume and tone are completely open (100%). If more than one pickup is on, they're equally mixed.
Controls and electronics are the same as a Jazz (or Precision) bass, all passive.
The extra switch between the knobs is a tone capacitor selector switch, but for all of the demos it's set to the same value as a stock Jazz (or Precision) bass.
Bass is direct into a Focusrite Scarlett interface. Only "effect" is some light compression.
Strings on roundwound demos: DR FAT-BEAM (FB-40)
Strings on flatwound demos: Thomastik-Infeld Jazz Flats (TI JF344)
If you're interested in the demo basslines, they're based on:
Intro: Original (my band's track).
Fingerstyle, roundwound: One Nation Under A Groove (Funkadelic), live 1981-04-17 Landover, MD show. Bassist: Rodney "Skeet" Curtis.
Slap, roundwound: Motor-Booty Affair (Parliament). Bassist: Rodney "Skeet" Curtis.
Pick, roundwound: Original (my band's track).
Fingerstyle, flatwound: Help Is On The Way (The Whatnauts). Bassist: Rodney "Skeet" Curtis.
You guessed it, I'm a huge Skeet fan. Thank you Skeet for some of the best basslines ever recorded!
Musicman Stingray photo credit and licensing information: Catfish Jim and the soapdish / CC BY-SA (creativecommons.org/licenses/...)
Warwick Streamer photo credit and licensing information: Warwick hq / CC BY-SA (creativecommons.org/licenses/...)
Background music: Original (mine).
Пікірлер: 486
5 pickups = 5 places to put my thumb.
@Skelterbane69
3 жыл бұрын
Floating thumb gang disagrees
@jwaj
3 жыл бұрын
Pick gang
@Ampher03
3 жыл бұрын
@@Skelterbane69 pickups as ramps gang agrees with Carpe
@petrmoczek
10 ай бұрын
5 string = a thumbrest on B string anywhere you want
This is one of the most unique, informative and well-executed bass videos I've ever seen. Thank you.
@mikedeeez
3 жыл бұрын
Many thanks!!
@oscarsantos2608
3 жыл бұрын
You bet! 👌
@gs-vh5do
3 жыл бұрын
@@mikedeeez SUCH a valuable video. Many thanks. I love the full punchiness of the second-from-neck pickup. Is there any way you could measure the distance from the nut to the center of that pickup?
@mikedeeez
3 жыл бұрын
@@gs-vh5do Thanks! Sure thing. From the EDGE of the nut (i.e. the side closest to the 1st fret), the distance to the centerline of that pickup is 29-1/8".
@gs-vh5do
3 жыл бұрын
@@mikedeeez awesome, many thanks! Can't wait to translate that to a few different builds and scale lengths
No one asked, everybody waited. Thank you!
Dude this is seriously so awesome! Hahaha
@TheDD1255
3 жыл бұрын
Hi dude, love your content btw.
It's interesting how much you can hear the difference between two adjacent pickup positions. As far as bass design concerns go, it seems like pickup placement would be a more effective and repeatable factor to control vs the tone wood choices we hear so much about.
@aarondavis5850
8 ай бұрын
@@cicolas_nage Basically, I was just trying to be nice about it...
@richsackett3423
7 ай бұрын
You wouldn't be hearing about them if you were actually practicing or building something yourself.
@richsackett3423
7 ай бұрын
@@cicolas_nage How many guitars and basses have you built?
@aarondavis5850
7 ай бұрын
@@richsackett3423 Sure, I bet pro builders and players never hear about them...
@Pesso86
4 ай бұрын
Tone wood is overrated. I don't think it contributes more than 5-10% to the sound. Build quality is obviously another topic, wood is important for that. But for sound...not so much
It’s absolutely shocking how few basses with wild pickup configs like this there are. There’s definitely a market for this kind of thing.
@svenjansen2134
11 ай бұрын
Ask your local guitar guy.
In this bass, there are precision, jazz, and stingray basses in one
@gingerjam2192
3 жыл бұрын
And clavinet 03:44
@marvinroggon3168
3 жыл бұрын
And Rickenbacker, and Warwick's, and some Dingwalls, and B.C. Rich's. Most of them out there in fact.
@Ampher03
3 жыл бұрын
@@gingerjam2192 the clav thing is so cool. Thst alone makes me want a bass with that position
@Mark-vv1dy
3 жыл бұрын
@@Ampher03Some Alembics have that pickup position. The Stanley Clarke signature model definitely does, and Zach Smith uses it a lot in his stuff with Pinback and Three Mile Pilot. It can sound super guitar-like because Alembic pickups can get so clear with the filter turned up. "Good To Sea" is a good example.
@jacobsmith1877
2 жыл бұрын
Also Alembic and Warwick
Great comparison - Thumbs up for taking the time to do this!
The amount of work you had to put in to this video is amazing Well done on the vid very impressed Will watch with again with headphones later Thanks for the time you spent doing this
This video will be really helpful for all the bassists in the coming years. The double inverted split coil sounds really good!
That was super fun to see. Such a cool demo.
This is great. Glad someone finally did something like this!
Thank you for all the work you put into this and for sharing.
Instantly one of my favourite bass videos. Every luthier should watch this. Funny, but the classic split coil is still my favourite. I know it was mentioned but I do wish the pickups continued up closer to the neck. (Fingers crossed for a sequel.)
Boy you were killing that liquid sunshine Parliament 🤘🏿🤘🏿🤘🏿 keeping it funky
Seriously instructive, the 5 pickups at the same time sound so massive !!! Love that.
@mikedeeez
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!!
Such an underrated video, I feel like especially on bass, pickup positioning makes such a huge difference. Thank you for this, great video!
This is something I’ve always wanted to see. Thank you
Great video; thank you for taking the time to make the mod and the video!
Phenomenal! A great demonstration. Thanks for your hard work!
I love this video, well done!
Definitely a cool and well constructed video.
The man, the legend. Hats off, my dude
One of the best video about bass i've ever seen!
Great demo. Thank you.
Found you with that 2eq vs 3eq video which was phenomenal work when I was deciding whether to buy a Stingray special. This video is on a whole nother level. This is a genius experiment and deserves a million views. Keep doing what you're doing.
@mikedeeez
2 ай бұрын
My pleasure - many thanks!! Rock on! 🤘🤘
Thank you so much for this... I really digged the streamer config with mics 2 and 4.
One of the greatest bass video on YT. Thx!
@mikedeeez
Жыл бұрын
Many thanks!! 🙏
Really good video man. Was exactly what I was looking for.
Awesome work! Taking the mystery out of pickup technobabble.
It's a really interesting experiment. Great job!
I’ve subscribed for your hard work!
It’s amazing to hear a Precision, Jazz, Stingray, Rick, PJ in one bass. Leo definitely knew that not all pickup placements are desirable. I think I could get sounds anyone would want with 2 quad coil MM at the bridge and neck with only a few switches. Great video Man!
@mikedeeez
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!! Completely agree; even after trying dozens of settings on this bass, the "classic" Leo pickup setups are often still the best ones for most cases. (2) quad-coil MMs is a great idea - you could get lots of flexibility. Nice.
@juliorolandi6694
7 ай бұрын
Yes! like the Peavey T-40, I'm just starting to learn bass on a PJ, but I already want to build a P bass with the Peavey T-40 configuration or similar, I will call it the P40
Great project!
reverse p bass neck and bridge fully open in series sounds amazing to me..sir..you just made up my mind for me about what I'm going to do with the extra pickups I have laying around..time to get out my tools..I need this setup in my life..great stuff!
I love the sound of all the pickups on that sounded way better than I thought
Fantastic testing. Thank you very much!!!
@mikedeeez
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
Fascinating...and very enlightening...thanks!😀
Really cool! Excelent video, thanks a lot!
Great "one-stop" video that helped with pick-up placement for a bass mod project I've got coming up.
@mikedeeez
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!! Best of luck!
Amazing demo and very informative.
Jeez weez! Interesting video! Nice. Happy Holidays!
Yes! Great video!
Haha, man , when all 5 are on, there's a clear reason why you don't just throw pickups in any old position. Phase issues like crazy, almost no high end coming out at all. This is a great experiment. I appreciate the effort!
thanks for this epic inventive idea!
That’s a crazy demo.
Hey man. Would be cool if you could show us a wiring schematic for this.
@mikedeeez
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! At the moment the wiring diagram is kind of in bits and pieces, but I'm going to try to put it all together, I'll let you know if I do. I may even make a video of it if I can get time.
@mikedeeez
3 жыл бұрын
Just posted it: kzread.info/dash/bejne/lmGt28myosWnf6g.html
wonderfull ! A dream ! Can't wait to see another video of this bass guitar !
@mikedeeez
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
Because SCIENCE! ✊ Well played, my good Sir. Kudos ❤
Amazing video! Thanks for sharing!
Beautiful experiment👍
This is about the coolest bass I've ever seen with reference to electronics. Holy cow.
I want to build a bass, and this was the most informative video so far. Thanks! Watching the wiring video next.
Woww. Awesome bass and video. Very helpful. Thank you.
Great demo! Thanks!
Well executed and rather scientific. Well done
Wooow! This was by far the most helpful video on this topic I have seen. Lately I˙ve been wanting to experiment with different pickup mods and combos (I´m absolutely in love with the double P and the reverse P pickup idea) but have not had enough info on how that would work and sound.
@mikedeeez
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!! Totally agree, double P is a really cool combination. BTW, there's another video that did a good job of showing the sound, and comparing double P with reverse double P: kzread.info/dash/bejne/em2KmqdwiJq3gco.html
that's great, thanks! The difference is HUGE even for few cms
This is a cool video man....thanks very much....very inspirational
Thank you so much for this, you've saved much time and expense to help me realize that I am, after all, a precision pup man.
Big respect for your hard work.... 👍👍👍👍👍👍
@mikedeeez
2 жыл бұрын
Many thanks!
awesome video man!, tank you so much 😊😊
Awesome !!! really cool video !! thanks for share
I think you've just answered every begginers first big question, you know the one that keeps you awake when you start learning to play 😂 Brilliantly done sir 👏
Awesome experiment.
@mikedeeez
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment!! It's an honor, I have been a huge fan of your Stingray magnet/EQ and Stingray vs. Sterling videos for years! Great videos - cheers.
Thank you so much! This is very educational!
That was awesome! Thnx!
This would actually make for a good session bass. Having that much versatility in one instrument would be really practical for session musicians
This is excellent - and sounds like I expect, which is reassuring! I’ve always felt that pickup position was bizarrely overlooked considering what a fuss people make about pickup type, and had long been planning to make some videos explaining/demoing this. Great work!
@mikedeeez
9 ай бұрын
Wow, thank you!! Very much appreciate the comment; it's seriously an honor. I think I have watched/liked every single one of your videos, and Barefaced are literally my only bass and guitar cabs (I'm up to 5 BF cabs, and counting!). Nothing but respect for you and your products! 🙏 I totally agree about pickup position. It seems like this really forms the vast majority of the basic "character" of the sound. Yes, many other factors like pickup construction do modify the sound to greater or lesser degrees, but (for example) a pickup right near the neck will simply never sound the same as a pickup near the bridge because the basic harmonic content is so different. My theory as to why there are tons of video comparisons of pickup types is just that there are tons of PRODUCTS available to compare. Manufacturers can offer lots of different pickup variations as aftermarket mods because it's sell-able - which is fine, and yes, pickup construction definitely makes some difference. But you can't really "sell" pickup positions, other than saying your instrument gets the pickups right where "classic guitar X" has them - and that's really not very sexy marketing. 😄 And modding the position in an existing instrument is obviously quite a bit more difficult than just dropping in a replacement pickup. But it sure makes way more difference, at least in my experience!
@BarefacedAudio
9 ай бұрын
@@mikedeeez well there’s a surprise, I wasn’t expecting you to know who we are let alone be such a well-equipped Barefaced owner! 🙌 Would you be up for me borrowing some of this video to make my own video talking about what you’ve done and what you’re showing, obviously directing viewers back to you for the full version?
@mikedeeez
9 ай бұрын
@@BarefacedAudio Thanks for asking! Absolutely yes - please feel free to! Just happy to share the knowledge, and having anything in a Barefaced video would be a complete honor. And many thanks again for all your help via emails guiding me to the right BF cabs over the last couple of years! 👍 Cheers At some point I'd like to do a video featuring the BF cabs - it's in the queue of planned videos. It'll be a complimentary plug for BF for sure.
Bro your back!!!!! Greatest comeback of all time. 😎
@mikedeeez
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!!
@marleythefrenchbulldog4237
3 жыл бұрын
@@mikedeeez I remember like 12 years ago I saw your bass videos and got you in my recommend 12 years later and I thought (wow he’s alive!)
Woow I loved this experiment! My favorites are P and MM St
All combinations render a unique and amazing sound! As a simple man I can’t accept this… I would spent hours switching all over back and forth not deciding which would be the best! 🤯 Great experiment! 🧪
Without a doubt, this is one of the best ideas and well executed demonstrations I've ever seen on the entire Tube of Yous, and you Sir are truly a Scholar and a Gentleman. In the immortal words of Skinny Pete: "Yo, church bro!!" Complete, utter and pure respect (with a healthy dose of I'm-not-worthy full two hand bowing). Killer idea, killer demo!!! Thank you!!!
@mikedeeez
3 жыл бұрын
You are very welcome!! My pleasure.
absolute mad lad! i love it. very cool experiment. that's a lot of magnets pulling on the strings.
@mikedeeez
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!! You're right, and I also thought it might sound really "dead" because of all of the magnets. But when I play it, honestly I can't really tell a difference from any other bass. I think I've seen other videos where people did experiments with "magnet pull", and the results seemed to be that it actually wasn't a huge deal? But who knows - I'm sure everyone's personal experience may vary!
Great video 👌 Thank you 🙏
One of the best video i've seen. Interesting, useful and well made. I'm mainly interested in the "rick" and "mm" sound, which we don't normally hear on a jazz bass. you should make more of these basses and sell them!
@presentrlb
Жыл бұрын
Check out Fender's signature Flea bass.
This is priceless info for builders and those looking for "their" sound. Time for the Bass With 10 pickups. (to approx basses with humbuckers close to the neck and double HB basses)
@PS-fg3hp
2 жыл бұрын
That second pickup (from the neck) sounded hotter than the rest. U noticed that?
NICE DUDE! Parliament-Funkadelic great choice of bassline. 👍🏽
Wow, that's amazing. I bet some studio musicians would kill for a bass like this one
Naaaaa!!!! Me vuelvo loco!! Espectacular hermano!! Sos un maestro! Muy bueno el video! Me motiva a seguir experimentando con el sonido! Ahora te sigo! Saludos desde Argentina!
@mikedeeez
10 ай бұрын
Muchísimas gracias!! 🙏 Sí, ¡disfruta experimentando! ¡Espero que encuentres algunos sonidos interesantes!
👍🏻👍🏻thanks man I’ve search a lot for a demo like that and it’s really well done. The only question that remain now is what the section toward the neck would sound like
Really perfect bass! Suitable for most styles of music
@thomas.thomas
3 жыл бұрын
Most? ^^
This is awesome! I like to mess with pickup wirings in my guitars, but I have never moded their location due to obvious difficulties. And the pickup placing is very important for basses
I thought thus guy was nuts but he recorded a very intelligent video with great playing and graphics...CONGRATS!
Thinking about pickups and placement for a possible build -- will be going back and re-listening to this lots! Thank you!
Great video! Double P for the win!
We need moooooooooore pickups even close to the neck. Seriously, great video and some sound combinations were really crazy. The bridge pickup alone is uselss as a bass pickup but in a combo with the neck one it gave the sound an interesting tone.
This was awesome! But man I recognized the sound of the jazz bass configuration without looking at the screen! Same for the Precision! Iconic placement/sound!😅
Very usefull, thanks!
Finally! A question that noone asked, but was curious of the answer.
BASS player here, WHAT A MANIAC!!!!! And I thought I was coucou !!! All 5 sounds monstrous !!!
Wow that's a lot of tone I like what I'm hearing👍🏿 🎸🎵🔊👍🏿
When the leftmost and rightmost pickups are on together it almost sounds like a Danelectro 58/59-- the wide space between the pickups gives it that same hollowness. Love this idea!
When I hear any two pickups that are next to each other I can't help but think abt nolly Love it!
Thanks for this. Seems like you just did what Leo previously did, which is good for us as we hear those combinations for ourselves.
Best experiment ever!!!
@mikedeeez
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!!
wow, what a frankenstein bass :D anyway thanks for the video, definitely the best explanation i've seen
Not only do I love basses with multiple pickups but I also love that you played some Parliament and some Whatnauts in the demo!
@mikedeeez
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!! YES!! Funk on! 🤘🤘
Great. Best for me was the P, J and PJ, which shows (to me) why these pickup positions are popular.
Great vid! I had a bass that was a Sixer set up Anthony Jackson style; NO controls, 1 Bartolini, I found I had to move my fingering hand a LOT to get the tone I wanted, love how it made me more sensitive to what I wanted the sound to be. Now I find that I play at a bit of a diagonal (It's a Music Man Humbucker type of PU set up) One the treble strings I tend to play closer to the neck (warmth and mids) and with the bass strings closer to the bridge (treble and clarity vs heavier tones). It tends to emphasize the tone and give me clarity. The end result is similar to this vid in terms of tonal variety.