Which one did you like the most? Do you like ornamentation and improvisation?

@andrewpenny4984

2 жыл бұрын

Ottavio Dantone!!!!!

@accipiterignitus5123

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video! Richard Egarr was impressive throughout the whole piece and his ending cadenza was satisfying

@sibionic

2 жыл бұрын

love that you did this

@youtube_user

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly, can't decide! And I believe, those artists would not play it in the same way twice. I believe, according to the circumstances they would play it differently.

@marcomauricio

2 жыл бұрын

Richard Edgar

Addressing this subject of ornamentation, Francois Couperin wrote "We do not play as we write" in his famous treatise of 1716, L'Art De Toucher Le Clavecin (The Art of Playing the Harpsichord). With this in mind, it explains how twenty musicians playing the same piece can give twenty subtly different but equally valid interpretations.

@matthieuvaucamps8289

2 жыл бұрын

In this quote Couperin was not really talking about ornamentation , he was more precisly referring to the « notes inégales » that us , French poeple used to play, and still use for the french music especially.

@manuelgonzales6483

8 ай бұрын

Bravo 👌❤

@MrMarcvus

8 ай бұрын

Is this not the beauty of baroque music - the performer enters into a dialogue the composer becoming a co-creator of the piece of music!

@MatthieuStepec

7 ай бұрын

​@@matthieuvaucamps8289correct. I also remember this quote being specifically about "nottes inégales" being compared to French spelling.

@trysubscribe25

6 ай бұрын

I make it to 200 likes

Ah the glorious Baroque! Indeed, that's how they used to play it back then, according to several historical manuscripts. Thanks for this!

is jazz just baroque music my god weve come full circle

@matttondr9282

2 жыл бұрын

Not quite, the baroque era is when we slowly started moving away from improvisation towards fully written out compositions. Obviously it wasn’t all black and white, as displayed here, and improvisation was still often encouraged, though as music became more complex and composers less anonymous, some of them began to complain about performers not playing their pieces “the right way”. Renaissance time music scene was much more like jazz in my opinion, plenty of compositions were really just arrangements of known tunes, familiar chord progressions or simple bass lines (like the passacaglia above) that a musician was expected to know and improvise upon, very much like when jazz musicians jam on jazz classics.

@papillonlune1

8 ай бұрын

I agree, but there's still an obvious common point between jazz and baroque, though, which lies in the fact that it is not played as written. And in the french style, you get to swing the quavers ("croches inégales"). Which means the time signature will be like 3/4 for instance but requires to be played as 9/12. Just as in a Big Band score.

@longschlongsilver7628

4 ай бұрын

Most of jazz music is rediscovering what he had forgotten

@henrykwieniawski7233

Ай бұрын

@@matttondr9282I think you’re mixing that up with the late classical/romantic period. Improv was an *absolute must* if you wanted to be a good composer in the Baroque era. Practically everyone was studying and training in basso continuo/partimento

Handel is the greatest composer to have ever lived, to him I bow the knee and I kneel at his grave. Ludwig Van Beethoven

That is SUCH a lovely sounding harpsichord - the first one!! All of them, but particularly the first. What is it?? This video has made my day. I cannot otherwise decide relative merits. What a magnificent, joyful, musical feast!

@TheGuilhermepiano

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much indeed for your comment! It was played by Ludger Rémy on a harpsichord after Michael Mietke, Berlin circa 1700, built by Bruce Kennedy in Amsterdam in 2000. Recording by radiobremen, 2002. More information can be found on www.discogs.com/release/17331694-Georg-Friedrich-Händel-Ludger-Rémy-Suites-de-Pieces-le-Clavecin-1720

@amitmarkel

2 жыл бұрын

Very nice both of the comments and video and all info, thanks :) The art of baroque playing is unfortunately not very known but so is classical music in general really, most perceive it as being just "better" with time and today's music genres such as pop, rock types, bossa novae etc, being the most developed, but all of that is really wrong. Each genre and period is of its own, and classical encapsulates all of those too. The classical period isn't more "developed" than baroque etc IMHO, each period has things it considers more important and perfection where everything is Utopia can't be, as example is the matter of tuning, triads were important and since eg Debussy's time were the fifths per the equal 'temperament' approximation and so on.

@bgcellozone

2 жыл бұрын

Agree!

@itsdarksucks

2 жыл бұрын

The first one might appeal more due to the key. The first one isn't actually being played in g minor, but rather F Minor, which to my ear suits the piece more Edit: Forgot about Baroque tuning, that means the first one was technically being played in F# Minor and the other ones were being played at concert pitch :)

@baroquewinds

9 ай бұрын

@@itsdarksucksit’s still in G minor, just A392 which is the modern standard for French baroque music. But it can also add a nice colour to other things.

My favourite interpretation is by Ludger Remy 👍👍👍👍👍👍🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

I think there is one thing we all learned... Handel sounds good no matter who plays it.

The sheet music is like the Pirate code from Pirates of the Caribbean. More of a guideline than an actual code... 1 and 2 are my favorite, 4 had a nice little riff at the end. And to think the composer was almost a lawyer.

Well done. I'm a nerd for Baroque performance technique. This is really well explained. Loved it.

@kgjhskgskgskgskdgfsk

2 жыл бұрын

That’s amazing! Can you recommend me a piece of literature or treatise? I’m looking to improve myself

@martinh1277

2 жыл бұрын

@@kgjhskgskgskgskdgfsk Try Dr. Thierry Mathis, Le Clavecin en France, Latour.

@martinh1277

2 жыл бұрын

@@kgjhskgskgskgskdgfsk If you can wait til next winter: Thierry Mathis, Das Wohltemperierte Clavier, Latour. There you can read more about tempo, fingerings, gracements and you can understand why it should be played this way. Bach wrote his WTC for teaching, so it will be ideal for your purpose.

What I can appreciate is that each performer does what he wants, the written note is only a reference to give free rein to his imagination, good taste is also important when improvising.

Not only did I discover a new favorite harpsicord piece, but hearing these different interpretations of just improvisation and ornamentation is extremely cool. Dope upload!

Ive watched this particular video about 30 times now in total, its by far one of my favorite videos on youtube

I agree with other comments about the first harpsichord, sounding so beautiful, great instrument/player and great recording. Anyhow my personal taste [just that] goes for Ottavio Dantone's rendition, he has an amazing 'con brio' feel but when requested also a deep sad mood. His interpretation of embellishments is coherent during the whole composition. Well, this is a masterpiece by Maestro Handel, thank you.

@arthurfilemon6038

2 жыл бұрын

Italians... ;)

@timber7744

2 жыл бұрын

Totally agree!

@andrewpenny4984

2 жыл бұрын

@@arthurfilemon6038 italians always play the best ornaments in baroque performance!

I loved Remy's the most particularly because of how he begins the passacaglia by reducing the harmonic progression. Your video is awesome, I listen to this for when I study!

The fourth one had a hell of an ending… In general this is a very captivating video, and I've come to appreciate Handel more having simmered in this Passacaglia-which goes deep-as I definitely have before, too, as well as Lully. It seems increasingly true, to me, that Bach wasn't the be-all and end-all of Baroque music, as might be the drift of his reputation; his offerings don't include every color of the rainbow of compositional flavor, like here-which would be an unfair expectation as it is.

Variations measures 45 to 52 are gorgeous - Thank You Guiherme for this video which is very useful for people not used to our baroque way of playing music, closer to the jazz spirit than to the "classical" notation. Often, for a kind of warm-up in rehearsals with other musicians, we choose a simple chaconne or passacaille pattern (ostinato bass) and we improvise. I love this exercise : first, it obliges to play while listening to the others... second, someone can go in a weird attempt, and we all appreciate inventing new harmonies (or it's complete failure - lol). If someone is interested, pls ask me : I can post a link on a recording with 2 harps, 1 baroque guitar and my archlute on the motif of "Lamento della Ninfa" of Monteverdi

This is Handel .the great ... The performer is also a great player .hats off .. ❤

All of them played it magically in thier own way , it's like hearing the same story from different people and each one of them expresses how they felt it . Thank you for this unique uplaod and could'nt have a better start for a happy new year . 😁👍🏼💙🌸🌸🌸

Lovely to listen to Sunday morning with my morning coffee Back to the piano ….. inspiring 🖤

3:25 i started believing that electric guitar was invented way back then

improvised passacaglia? *i love all iterations of this piece* it literally saved my life. Edit1: i'm not halfway in yet and this magnifico!

I have listened to this music a lot on the organ. That's why Ottavio Dantone is lucky.

I LOVE the notes inégal from the fourth keyboardist!

Thank you, Guilherme! I wanted to watch it for educational purposes, but I got totally bedazzled and mesmerised by the beauty of these interpretations. Each of them! Wonderful!

Браво!Полный восторг!Все украшения вписаны без единого шва,импровизация блестящая.Слушала и не дышала!Спасибо!

Very interesting and enjoyable! Thanks!

While I will always have preferences, I am so glad you did this! It really highlights the elegance and beauty that embodies classical music, especially from the Baroque period.

Enjoying the attack on the 2nd version. Feeds right into my rhythmic, staccato-like, Postmodern biases!!

love dantone's interpretation so beautiful

very instructive

I can't decide which one I like best, but I like this video a lot. I hope you will make more videos!

Very interesting video, I'm studying this piece on the piano and it gives clues. The imagination these musicians show is really impressive, I especially enjoy Ottavio Dantone.

I Just loved seeing these variations and their different interpretations! 😍👏👏👏

@marcomauricio

2 жыл бұрын

Richard Egarr.

Amo el sonido del clavicordio y estos arreglos ❤

I feel like trying to follow this type of music, exercises your brain!!

I love the sound and bass section (and playing) of the second performance. The bass sounds bit like a modern synth, very cool and punchy.

I like it for the same reason I like improvisations in Jazz. It makes each performance unique

AMAZING! THANX

Thank you!

DAMN this shi sound badass asf, these frl cookin😮‍💨😮‍💨

So satisfying

I'm undecided Master Dantone and Master Remy ♥

Excelente vídeo, a minha interpretação favorita é a do Ludger Rémy. Mas todas são belas gravações.

2:21 and the 1st perdormance in general is my favourite. I remember the first time I heard the repetition on 2:21, my jaw just dropped and I connected wirh the piece so intimately. Idk, it struck me like a lightning

Lindo demais 😍

I appreciate the agogic accents. Well done.

I enjoyed all of the interpretations but my top three are Egarr, Rémy, and Dantone's interpretations.

Richard Egarr... and Mr. Dantone. Amazing ;)! The first harpsichord sounds lovely, indeed, but I'm afraid that's actually not ONLY due to the instrument but also due to the circumstances in which it was recorded, place, acoustics, later mixing, etc.

One of my favorite Handel songs. Thanks for uploading.

@Herr_Flick_of_ze_Gestapo

9 ай бұрын

it is NOT a song. it is a passacaglia.

@ChronicMetamorphosis

9 ай бұрын

@@Herr_Flick_of_ze_Gestapo HOW DARE YOU!

@Herr_Flick_of_ze_Gestapo

9 ай бұрын

@@ChronicMetamorphosis Blah blah blah blah. Just dont ever use the word "song" for any work of classical music unless it is an actual song. It is wrong and shows ignorance and by doing so you took away my childhood! Using wrong words for music is racist.

@ChronicMetamorphosis

9 ай бұрын

@@Herr_Flick_of_ze_Gestapo From Encyclopedia Brittanica: passacaglia, (Italian, from Spanish passacalle, or pasacalle: “street song”), Would you like a towel to wipe the egg off your face?

@Herr_Flick_of_ze_Gestapo

9 ай бұрын

I suggest you whipe your hurt butt off with that outdated encyclopedia of yours. The term passacaglia (Spanish: pasacalle; French: passacaille; Italian: passacaglia, passacaglio, passagallo, passacagli, passacaglie) derives from the Spanish pasar (to walk) and calle (street). It originated in early 17th-century Spain as a strummed interlude between instrumentally accompanied dances or SONG (an actual sung song that is). Despite the form's Spanish roots (confirmed by references in Spanish literature of the period), the first written examples of passacaglias are found in an Italian source dated 1606.[3] These pieces, as well as others from Italian sources from the beginning of the century, are simple, brief sequences of chords outlining a cadential formula and in no way shape or form a song. The term "song" being used for any piece of classical music is only used by people (mostly poorly educated Muricans) who just barely dipping their toe into the world of classical music for the first time after they had their brain being fogged up and smoothed out for decades by modern poor quality commercial chart music. Those types of people have listened to vivaldi his 4 seasons violin concertos once or twice and to Bach his famous toccata and think they know classical music. yet proceed using terms used in modern pop music. Using "song" for any classical piece that is not an actual song just shows ignorance and amateurism. What is even more ignorant and pathetic is when those types of people (you that is) are trying to defend their wrong terminology because they don't want to loose face at all costs!. Quite laughable. You can put that in your pipe and smoke it!

Best interpretation after listening to the first ten bars🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤ this is the least boring way to play Handel ❤❤❤❤

@user-sn3wg1uc3n

Ай бұрын

Oh. You did it four times! I only focused on the first and fourth one. Absolutely amazing! The interpretations have that much differences. Love them. I will listen more as I go. Have you ever want to make a Glenn gould impressionation? 😮😮😅😅 I don’t know if harpsichordists do humm while they were playing back in baroque era😅😅😅

I know this very nice piece. I have heard it already once.

Funny thing is that using this piece I have tried to play a bit with ornaments and improvisation more than any other piece.

Richard Egarr's-naturally! His improvisation is exactly what the term implies. I was surprised by Scott Ross's impoverished rendition; he must have been at the end of his life when he played this, for it is nothing like his scintillating, superb, unmatched Scarlatti sonatas. (You ought to have added Byron Schenkman's version.)

Amazing Have dolce e amabile moments I love Harpsichord Welcome to Indonesia

Thumbs up! 👍

Laurence Cummings ❤️

So beautiful! I play it on the piano sometimes, but at quarter speed and many mistakes, haha 😂

19:28 was a brain flipper for sure

❤️❤️❤️

Scott Ross is apparently the only one who knows what inégalité is.

4 and 5 - the best)

❤

Bravo! Now where to buy the sheet music and try playing this for myself.

insane

I love Egarr version best.

Virginia Black is the ultimate player of this piece!

@TheGuilhermepiano

2 жыл бұрын

I've never heard her playing before. Great performance!

Who are all those Ludger, Ottavio etc? When did they wrote this improvisation and is Handel the first Passacaglia composer? To me all of them sounded basically the same. I love it. I also heard about Scarletti and Handel's performance, was it improvisation, and do we have their notations? I think this piece and the variations are the best way to sight-read and practise technique.

do one of the gallant style!

It's crazy that none of them is playing in the way I hear it : staccato on the eights.

My favorite is probably Scott Ross, especially at the end where he provides an "imbroglio adeguato"-or adequate confusion-that is as exciting as it is becoming. Still, you ought to check Byron Shenkman: his G-minor suite is supreme.

Th notation is not the piece. It points to the piece.

2:12 Interesting time signature combo. Academia: "Classical musicians don't improvise. Study the masters long enough, and you too will write like them..." Pre 20th century composers: 😱

Pelo seu nome vc é br né? Achei esse vídeo incrível, vc podia fazer mais do tipo

@TheGuilhermepiano

Жыл бұрын

Obrigado! Sim, eu dei uma pausa por causa do trabalho e também porque o KZread diminuiu muito o alcance do meu canal após negar a monetização. Mas, fico feliz por gostar do meu trabalho!

8:47 question, I’m pretty ignorant about how strict rules were during baroque but wouldn’t those parallel octaves be taboo? Or was this rule routinely broken?

@TheGuilhermepiano

2 жыл бұрын

For sure parallel octaves are not commonly used in Baroque pieces of music. I think, in this case, they were used just to emphasize the lower notes

@adrianmatsch2316

7 ай бұрын

These arent called paralells, they are just used to give a tone more volume/sound. Also used in Mozarts Alla turca

Everytime a piece is played it should sound slightly different. Or it's just being rehearsed

Dodo!

Переложіть цю мелодію на електро гітару і ви отримаєте світовий хіт 😎

Ottavio Dantone for me

Sad that some people don't distinguish the ornamentation and changing the original rhythmic pattern written by composer.

Барочная музыка без мелизмов как шашлык без перца

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Are these played by a real harpsichord or by a computer?

@TheGuilhermepiano

2 жыл бұрын

Real harpsichord

@thpeti

2 жыл бұрын

Silly question. No computer or synth can play these. You'll notice it immediately if a computer, or even some pneumatical system would play it from a roll of paper, like a Welte-piano or a "drehorgel". Well, I've never seen a harpsichord operated by these systems, only pianos, tubular bells, pipe organs and some kinds of music boxes, like the ones exhibited in museums. I've seen many kinds of these when I was in Berlin.

@bird100yearsago2

2 жыл бұрын

@@thpeti i mean did he play it on a piano and made the sound with editing or played A real harpischord there is no need to say it is a silly question

@thpeti

2 жыл бұрын

@@bird100yearsago2 OK :)

Why does the Scott Ross one sound so out of tune?

Sulle "Diverse interpretazioni " e "Ognuno si esprime come sente" : 😢😢😮😮 Meditare !!!/

Richard Egarr is the winner in my opinion. Dantone comes in second. Remy and Cummings were boring and Ross is outdated

Remy too, too, too, too, too fast!

None of these are the way I play it : )

I didn't like the scott ross style. made it more like a Prussian military anthem. I'm sure Hendel's spirit was smiling at him as he listened to Laurence Cummings. full hendel , full baroque magnificent interpretation

lovely sound but unfortunately there is no synchro between the sound and the score on the screen

@paulanderson6834

2 жыл бұрын

Each variation is repeated. The video is pretty well synchronised with the audio.

Estrose interpretazioni!

Personally, I hate Dantone's interpretation, too percussive, too violent, "mechanic" and shownoff.

they variations you picked are so good/diverse! I could teach my class this video for the entire year... I personally learned a lot from Ludger Rémy, the by far -competition-wise /score-wise best version (the first one) with his steady broadening of the scope and thus really emphazising changes and awarness, as well as participation for the listeners richard edger gave a really nice performance for students to Imitate and get used to some techniques..i think he played the most predictable Mr Dantone was just loud, no style..some dynamical changes within his ornamentation showing the immense concentration he used for the piece, but it was to much overall and ruined the actually dialogue between T4-D6 on the ending of each meassure. Scott Ross although playing on a non-tuned instrument was more lean on the sheet and dispersed only in small steps, especially noteworthy were the accurate meassure 30 and following However...Laurence Cumming really changed the entire dynamic by starting a sprint from the beginning, you could really feel the anger within the musician, lots of notes were played with to much pressure and the tempi changes sporasticly...definetly a musician who had a bad day

@TheGuilhermepiano

7 ай бұрын

Thank you!!