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I've said it before and I'll say it again: a cartoon doesn't sell toys. Intersting characters do. We weren't buying toys. We were buyong our favorite characters.

Difference between you leaving us on a cliffhanger and Netflix is most are going to want to see what comes next for this lol

@ciaranproudfoot

2 жыл бұрын

Amen

@RemoWilliams1227

2 жыл бұрын

👌💯

I do love these retrospective deep dives. Especially into copyright shenanigans. Even before this channel rights holding on entertainment properties has always fascinated me.

@fattiger6957

2 жыл бұрын

Plus, I just like listening to Andre's (Dutch?) accent. It's pretty relaxing.

@762rk95tp

2 жыл бұрын

@@fattiger6957 He is Norwegian.

Watching this reminds me of the historical moment in which these toys emerged. Families were disintegrating as divorce became the go-to method for dealing with marriage issues. I was at my mother's new boyfriend's apartment and one of them had bought me mer-man and I thought he was awesome. Now that I think about it, it's no wonder we're all taking this era's attack on masculinity and especially white male heroes to heart. They were my surrogate models of masculinity and what it meant to be a man - hyper-masculine toys like MotU, Ghostbusters, Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Harrison Ford and Kurt Russell and Bill Murray in everything good, Bryan Ferry singing Let's Stick Together - that was the strange 80s experience of outsourcing your paternal relationship to pop culture.

@RanMouri82

2 жыл бұрын

Sadly, well said. This was the generation that, far more than earlier ones, started gaslighting kids who were brokenhearted over their broken homes and missing at least one parent (usually their dads, but in my case, my mom), teaching them that this is normal and they should want their parents to be happy. If anything, I suspect that these positive models of masculinity were the last vestiges of appreciation for men before the sexual revolution's aftermath destroyed that, too.

@Fenris30

2 жыл бұрын

But it's all an Illusion, Look at the Scene where Dana is Possessed by Zuul, A Hyper Masculine man would have taken advantage of her in that state (Like what happens in the Porn Parody of that scene) but Peter does the Right thing cause that's what a real Man does. Kurt Russell was Man enough to play a Fool in Big Trouble in little China next to the Real Hero of the Film Wang. You guys got it all wrong real Men do the right thing always. You guys talk about them not making men like you remember but the Men you remember were KIND, HELPFUL, GENEROUS, LOVING. Can you say the same bout yourself?

@DivertingTales

2 жыл бұрын

@@Fenris30 That’s literally the argument of most of these channels that say stop deconstructing masculinity, it wasn’t toxic in the first place as like you said pop culture didn’t promote men to be assholes, the opposite.

@creativeconsciousness7392

2 жыл бұрын

@@Fenris30 I guess I didn't write that very clearly. I didn't mean every example cited was hyper-masculine, just the MotU toys. Bill Murray is obviously brilliantly nuanced and subtle. Indy was always getting the crap beaten out of him, it was his on-the fly creativity and dogged endurance rather than raw strength that made him an awesome 80s hero. And I loved Kurt Russell because his characters were always a couple of steps behind the forces that drove the situations in his movies - far from masterful - and he managed to make it through anyway. All those guys were role models for me, that's why it's awful to see them so degraded and debased in these shitty culture bomb movies now.

@Fenris30

2 жыл бұрын

@@creativeconsciousness7392 To Me the Culture Wars is just The Girl in the Short Skirt bending over to distract you while her Partner picks your Pocket. Who's her Partner? The Politicians backed by Monied interests of Course. They were the ones that pointed the woman out in the first place. Think about it.

Wow, what a cliffhanger! I can't wait to see part two.

I learned a little bit more about the origins of the MOTU toy line and comics.

As Lioconvoy once said, The Filmation series was what put He-Man on the pop cultural map.

I hope Part 2 is Andre tearing into Netflix writers. Hehehe Andre please save one of my childhood hero's. Hell I am willing to send money your way to buy the Conan/He-man franchises, it would be pennies to the millions but I know that it would be greatly cared for in Midnight's edge's hands.

@Narof321

2 жыл бұрын

No, it should be Mexican IronMan ripping into the netflix nitwits. All of the original he-man fans could share in his outrage during the original roundtable

I expected this retrospective from Midnight's Edge in tribute to T. Mark Taylor, the lifelong Mattel toy designer who famously came up with the visual designs for the entire Masters of the Universe line as well as the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle line. RIP.

@MidnightsEdge

2 жыл бұрын

Did you watch till the very end? The tribute is there;p

@bronstet

2 жыл бұрын

@@MidnightsEdge I have indeed and saw it at 18:39. Great picture you chose. Great start of the retrospective and very nice of you guys to acknowledge him. I hope you are all having a great holiday season and look forward to more from you in 2022.

@Fenris30

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah but you guys act like Teela wasn't there from the beginning. Hell if you want to get technical she was the second character shown in the Mini-Comics since she and the Sorceress were one Toy back in the days.

Watching Hollywood and the MSM give each other (mouth) hugs over and over got old a long time ago. NY Times and K. Smith patting each other on the back is like 2 arsonists shaking hands after burning down a St. Jude's.

@juancarlosgonzalezjr

2 жыл бұрын

The liberal has become establishment. The indies have become the mainstream.

@fattiger6957

2 жыл бұрын

The MSM is bought and paid for by Hollywood. You can't trust anything they say now. Maybe you could never trust them, but you especially can't trust them now. They aren't even covert about their collusion anymore.

I liked He-Man the Barbarian. Imagine a movie based on that first mini comic.

That new adventures of he-man sword looks like a keyblade :3

This was the cartoon series that enkindled my love of Fantasy. The Conan Short Stories by REH, were the others.

@lbds9555

2 жыл бұрын

Can you imagine a faithful adaptation, live action or animated, of REH's original stories? It could be the best fantasy adaptation since The Lord of the Rings.

@Dustpuma1

2 жыл бұрын

I can't like heman it's like fruity Conan that's trash for action figures

Awesome!!! Now we will finally see/hear about all the ownership issues about the MOTU franchise.

As an 80's kid MOTU will always be near and dear to my heart, cannot wait to see Part 2 of this analysis of such a beloved memory

He-Man was the Jordan Peterson of the 80’s, teaching boys to be responsible men lol.

@blankblank2370

2 жыл бұрын

And putting himself into a coma by abusing drugs, due to clinical anxiety.

@Tahokmusic

2 жыл бұрын

Don't forget Mr T

@samgott8689

2 жыл бұрын

@Blank Blank I thought he put himself in the coma to get off of the drugs?

@AeneasGemini

2 жыл бұрын

@@samgott8689 A real man decides for himself what being a responsible man means, having feminists or Jordan Peterson doing the thinking for you just goes to show you never understood what masculinity meant in the first place

@samgott8689

2 жыл бұрын

@AeneasGemini if you mean a real man is and should be able to judge for himself what’s good and appropriate for a given situation, without needing to be browbeaten into doing it, then I’m right there with you. Personally I think it’s ludicrous that someone can make so much money and fame doing something dudes fathers should’ve been doing all along, but, well, here we are anyways. For the record, there was nothing even close to the whole Jordan Peterson phenomenon when I was a younger. When I was 17, I was already working for years to save for college, told my dad and my mom after 9/11 that I was going to drop out of school, get my GED, and enlist instead and asked them to cooperate in the paperwork and stuff. Like, no one had to tell me to stand up straight, clean my room and shit like that since I was a kid, much less, “hey, joining the Army in a time of need might be a good use of your youth”. I guess that’s what we are now though - a culture of children that have to be talked down to like children. Doesn’t matter if it’s the left, right, or center doing it - it’s a fucking travesty that it’s even happening at all. Idk how else to think about that shit.

The syndicated tv station where I lived in the 80's didn't play He-Man so I could only see it on VHS tapes rented from the video store so I never had a chance to really get attached. I just remember him randomly popping up in a Superman comic.

The original show taught what masculine virtues could be. Something that to many people these days see as an enemy.

For those that want more history and characters of the MOTU go to Spector Creative's channel. He worked on the revived He-Man toy line among various others. One thing he talks about MOTU's origin and Conan that isn't explained here is that the development teams for said lines has no clue what the other were doing. Even though they worked in the same building they were completely separate. The He-Man line was originally supposed to be like like Barbie in that the one character fit many action genres. They instead decided to focus only on the barbarian character and that's how He-Man was born.

This was a wonderful respectful video. Thank you!

Glorious video once again, guys. I can't wait for the next part.

Fascinating!! Excellent work guys! 👍👍

Damn Great video,! I also love the rotoscope animation of the cartoon. I think it’s beautiful. I had the toys long before the cartoon, so I was always partial to the stories in the min comics.

I didn’t realize how much of an impact He-Man had on animation. Sucks that most people only see it as “the cheesy 80s show people only remember because of that one famous meme video.

I've always loved he=man's cartoons & movies too!

A great video! My Christmases were populated by these Mattel toys as a kid, moreso than even Star Wars, He-Man and the Masters of the Universe was MY first franchise love!

Hey Man, u did an awesome Job on this video /retrospective. I appreciate the hard work u must put into these videos. Keep up the great work. Can’t wait for part two

I love how the rotoscope model for Teela has to bend her leg as not to appear to be taller than He-Man :P

Love the "He-man" intro!

I went back and watched this again this morning…SO GOOD! I love this series! Great job gentlemen!

Man I don't know who you're but you're the best narrator this channel has, I love how you tell a story

@kitcat7538

2 жыл бұрын

The narrator is André Einherjar, the founder and owner of Midnight's Edge. It's true -- nobody he can hire to assist him is ever quite as good as he is.

16:33 I wanna pin you on this comment right here because this is exactly what Revelations and a lot of other 'deconstructed' series have been tearing away at when it comes to presenting heroes and role models for boys. He-Men showed boys strength not just physically but mentally and emotionally as well. Revelations did nothing but emasculate every male character for daring to be born male while every female character is shown to only have 'real strength' when they pick up the looks that men have. I honestly find this disheartening because kids really don't have role models in their own shows anymore and are constantly being told to reject what they like in order to avoid being 'problematic' not for themselves but for a group of predatory adults who want to use them to validate themselves. Take into consideration that while He-Man was a role model for boys who grew up int the 80s, the 'ideal' role model being pushed on them now are characters like Steven from Steven Universe and if you managed to stick through the entire series and know how Steven ended up, you'll understand why the idea of Steven being an accepted role model while characters like He-Man are called toxic is frightening. And this is something that I hate on both sides. Even as a woman, I see the idea being pushed that in order for women to be strong they have to reject femininity and cosplay the worst aspects of what we put on men which is why we have passive aggressive jock Teela who is not only ugly on the inside she is also ugly on the outside as well mostly due to her shitty personality they put on us as 'strong'.

@MidnightsEdge

2 жыл бұрын

Excellent comment! ... and as you will see, we included that particurlar comment for the a reason;p

Noo, not a cliffhanger! Will Eternia survive? I need to know! Seriously though, thank you for this video Andre. Your documentaries are always wonderful, and this one is just as great as the others. You strike a perfect balance between making assertions and doing research, so your videos have a point to them, but are also full of fun nostalgia. It's really interesting to see how... uninspired the original toy line was. Or rather, how they blatantly ripped off both Conan and the 4th World. Conan Properties should have won their lawsuit, but I guess if they had won we'd never have gotten the full experience of He-Man and his world. There was something in the air in the early 1980's, a yearning for wonder and adventure, that led to so many incredible movies and TV shows and books and comics... and toys. Masters of The Universe (kind of an astoundingly vainglorious name for a toy line, imo) had a basic good vs. evil structure, but was also open-ended enough to let kids create their own stories on the living room floor. I first became aware of MoTU thanks to those DC comics you showed in your documentary. I've still got all four of them in a box somewhere downstairs. The toys made their way to Canada a few years later, but when they hit they hit big and were everywhere all at once. I remember the toy section at the department store just had mounds of action figure boxes piled up on tables. If you wanted a specific figure you had to dig in the pile and hope you didn't start an avalanche. Then there was the MoTU aisle that had a cardboard standup thing that made it look like you were entering Castle Greyskull. That's where they sold the really expensive play sets and boxes with multiple characters together, like He-Man and Battlecat. I didn't have the money to buy MoTU stuff, but I used to stare at the box art and imagine the adventures that He-Man and his friends were having. I never saw the Filmation series, though. It may have been the catalyst that made MoTU an enduring hit, but it was only available on cable TV.

@dang75790

2 жыл бұрын

Lol filmation series was not only on cable TV. I would know as a kid never had cable. I watched it everyday. Get your facts right people. Normies always twist reality.

@Kevin_Street

2 жыл бұрын

@@dang75790 Here in Canada those 80's cartoons were only on US stations, and those were only available on cable. I never saw He-Man, GI Joe, Transformers or Robotech. We had Saturday morning cartoons, but they was mostly kid stuff like the Smurfs and Care Bears.

@dang75790

2 жыл бұрын

@@Kevin_Street that fine . But don't say it was only on cable. That's not true.

@Kevin_Street

2 жыл бұрын

But it was only on cable.

@dang75790

2 жыл бұрын

@@Kevin_Street lol nevermind

A+++ gréât video brining a lot together! Looking forward to part 2!

Excellent work. Can't wait for next part.

Season one left a little to be desired. Good none the less. Season 2 fkn awesome!!! Animation is fkn epic!!!

This space machine intro, not sure if that was a KZread creator's intro or Midnight's Edge custom made, but it was epic. Does anyone know what that was?

@TankHunter678

2 жыл бұрын

It was seriously awesome, I really want to know where it is from.

This was so great. Thank you for sharing. Made my day 👍

7:55 Looking FABULOUS Adam!

Excellent video. I'm a casual, old school He man fan. I remember buying most of the toys in the first 2 years before the TV show even came out, what a great time for toys. I didn't know that D.C. Fontana and J. Michael Stracynzski were writers on that show, quite a bullpen Filmation had.

Wat u mean Pt 2?! No seriously, I wish there wasn’t a cliff hanger at the end of this video. 😂

Good to see the retrospectives are back.

Oh please hurry with part 2 please. This was very entertaining.

Can’t believe you’ve let us in such a dire cliffhanger, Andre!

Fantastic retrospective

Excellent. Can't wait for part 2.

Here in Brazil He-Man has always been first a cartoon show and second a toyline. Not everybody bought the toys, but everybody watched the show!

Had these toys right from the beginning and always preferred the original barbarian style, with those pre-filmation mini storybooks etc!

Thats a great series. Awesome work.

Unlike Revelations, this video will make people come back for the second part.

claim your "I was here first" medal right here, folks!!

@SuperCosmicMutantSquid

2 жыл бұрын

DANG IT!

@AGS363

2 жыл бұрын

😄

@DragonMaster360

2 жыл бұрын

@@SuperCosmicMutantSquid what?? 😏

Cool!

Before He Man Filmation made a similar series called Blackstar. And Ruby-Spears did Thundarr the Barbarian.

Very informative and cool!

This was great. Thank you

13:25 "They imbued Mattel's creation with life." You could say that they imbued it with a... _soul._ Get it? Because "animation" comes from "anima", which means "soul"... eh?

@Thomasmemoryscentral

2 жыл бұрын

Neat but thus has a soul and MOTU has "subverting expectations" and "agenda"

Can't wait to see part too but I'll explain about the he-man and master of universe Rights issue about the fraction

@MidnightsEdge

2 жыл бұрын

Do share!

A cliffhanger!? Noooo! You insane, well-spoken, scheming, dashing, dastardly do-gooder! This is a trick to get me to comment isn’t it!? Well, it won’t wo- awww dang-it!

Good stuff

Netflix did a competent job on Transformers. You should do a video on that.

Really good video.

@MidnightsEdge

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

I want Andre to have a reason to say "Frrrrraaarankeshtein" in EVERY video from now on. OK? Thank you!

@fattiger6957

2 жыл бұрын

It sounds so nice with his accent.

@SuperCosmicMutantSquid

2 жыл бұрын

Frrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr! MMMM!

Thank you Andre and Tom

As a Kid i LOVED the Barbarian origin of He-Man. Even then i found the prince Adam/He-Man duality pretty silly tbh.

I hope you touch on the CG show since that version seems better recived by fans than revelations.

“Ain’t nothing like the old school!”- Tupac Shakur

Well this channel is rad

Haha, the movie poster for the Dolph film, I remember seeing it in a theater as a kid when it came out.

I remember either in the toy in a book or something, that there was savage looking he-man pictures just with his fur underoos on and he was fighting someone in a darker style Conan style. Sometimes there was lava daringly close to him or blades dug in the ground near his feet. I can't find any trace of the images though.

According to Wikipedia, Kenner was founded in 1946, so I'm not sure your statement that it was founded by a rogue employee of Mattel around the time Star Wars came out is factually accurate.

I disagree. "From the outside looking in" HeMan was always distinct from Conan, and could only be claimed to be stolen IP if every muscular, melee wielding character could be said to be a rip off of Conan. Seeing the connections between the two companies, I can see where Mattel thought they had a case. But only after knowing about those connections. That's not "outside looking in", that's "inside looking around".

" Wonderful overview!"

Hey Andre, glad to see you showing respect to Mark at the end. ✊️ More than I can say about Kevin Sad-Sack-of-Shit Smith. Called him out on the twatters over this and still not a damned thing. Apparently a single "RIPmarktaylor" message is too much to ask while making bank on the man's creations. 😡

2:04 Oh, I see now why Andre did this video; it’s so he can talk more Conan. Hail geekdom. Respect ✊🏻

@MidnightsEdge

2 жыл бұрын

...and best of all - it's on topic!

I'm not even all that interested in MOTU, but this is the sort of thing ME does best so I'm in!

Damn!

I HAVE THE POWER!! - PRINCE ADAM

I don't remember which cartoon it was but one had a scene where the villian consults a crone for info. She casts a spell, summons demons from a pit and a swarm of gold bees erupt out of it. They attack and sting her all over. She screams but cackles as well then they leave her crumpled on the floor and retun to the pit. She staggars to her feet and relays the message the bees gave her to the villian. It was content like this that riled up parents and religious groups and they accused the cartoons of indoctrinating children into the occult. Thats when changes were made and these animated series episodes began ending with a moral.

@Thomasmemoryscentral

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds interesting, you try googling it?

I always thought the original barbarian backstory was the best one.

The original mini comics that came with the original action figures is what got me hooked as a kid... I always wanted to know why they steered away from the original story line. Was gut wrenching to me as a kid LOL. It focused on the sword of power. Skelator had one half and He-Man had the other. Who ever could connect the two swords would rule Greyskull. The original toy of the two characters came with half of the sword. The two would snap together to make the sword of power. This part of the story died with the original action figures.

J. Michael Straczynski would later go on to be the Main Story Creator for another brilliant Toy-Line / Action Serial, in the Canadian Tokusatsu interactive laser-tag Sven Ole-Thorsen vehicle 'Captain Power and the Soldiers of the Future'!

Remember the "Wonder Bread He-Man" (who wasn't really from Wonder Bread at all)? With that hairstyle, I always thought that he looked like Arnold Schwarzenegger circa 1977, and I wondered if once the Conan deal fell through, Mattel just said "Get rid of these Arnolds. Give them away for free!" However, Scott Neitlich said the timelines don't match. ☹️

I am eighteen and just got the castle grey skull set for Christmas I really want more like it but I fear the franchise might not make anymore which is a bummer I really like the designs

When I was a kid I was allowed to watch pretty much what ever I wanted so I seen the Conan movie before I saw the motu cartoon. Conan along with Thundar really informed the way I imagined the world of motu so I was pretty disappointed when I tuned into the original show.

I really hope one day you go into detail about the 2002 series. The true He-Man reboot.

@MidnightsEdge

2 жыл бұрын

That is coming. Note that this was only "Part 1" of a franchise retrospective.

I think its not a good Midnight's Edge video if it doesn't have the word Frankenstein in it. In that this one gloriously succeeds.

You uploaded a videograph before Gary Beuchler and before the critical slider-into-jail-institution-or-premature-death.

As corny as the moral of the day lessons were, the guys at Filimation and even Mike Young were trying to relay to young boys like myself at the time lessons on how to be men. That is something that is lacking from a lot of programming today for boys.

This is what drives me absolutely batty these franchises could be “shut up and take my money” if they would only care but we almost constantly get individuals who see it as a imdb credit for their resume. Spider-Man no way home just gave you the playbook Hollywood take the damm hint!

@fattiger6957

2 жыл бұрын

Cobra Kai gave Hollywood a blueprint on how to do a decades-later sequel, but they didn't listen then either. The idiots in the boardroom seem dead-set on throwing billion of dollars into the paper shredder called woke politics.

Masters of the Universe is a great movie.

Do not forget to mention Robert E. Howard's another creation "Kull the Conqueror". Kull is forerunner of Conan and He-Man borrowed many elements from Kull. That tiger motive comes from Kull and Thulsa Doom is actually Kull's enemy, somehow Conan movie used it and serpent men cult used in Kull stories first. Jack Kirby is the king of the comics indeed. How fourth world not used that much is a crime.

@MidnightsEdge

2 жыл бұрын

This is the mention in the Conan retrospective referred to. Link is in the description, check it out.

@nemesis3587

2 жыл бұрын

@@MidnightsEdge Thanks, gonna check it.

He-Man went from a really cool barbarian to a hackneyed Shazam/Captain Marvel pastiche. Then again I was 8 at the time, so maybe I was a little jaded by then?

Looked for part 2. Where is it... I'm waiting... JK. Nice video sir.

I love Revelations

Damn Regan made it possible for action figures 😮

I think that this illustrates a sad truth: that scandal and thievery are foundational concepts in business.

25 years, and my life is still; Tryin’ to get up that great big hill of HUH-ope For a destiNAYshunnnnnnn

15:15 "... even Disney" I think you mean ESPECIALLY Disney!

@MidnightsEdge

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, that's what I meant. Should have gone with that.

I have been a fan of Midnight's Edge's He-Man content for a few years now. You guys hearing anything from your sources on if Netflix is doing a live action movie still?

@MidnightsEdge

2 жыл бұрын

Haven't heard a word.

@oshontheexperience6440

2 жыл бұрын

@@MidnightsEdge Thanks for the reply. Kristin Harloff reported on his channel that Netflix was doing it and they had an actor cast. That was earlier this year.

@oshontheexperience6440

2 жыл бұрын

Looks like Kristen scoop was on point.