Bankrupt - NCL America Cruises

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Cruise ships are a massive business worth billions of dollars around the world with multiple companies with massive fleets of ships. Out of all of them however, there is only one cruise ship that is registered to the United States. That being the Pride of America which began life by a completely different company, encouraged by the US Government. Them, along with Norwegian Cruise Line, both tried their hand at building out an all American fleet of cruise ships under a completely American company. Today I'm going to tell that little known story and how both those attempts at something special in the industry, failed spectacularly.
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  • @hbshined
    @hbshined Жыл бұрын

    Hi Jake, I've been an avid viewer of yours since 7th grade, and now as a college freshman, I can proudly say that because of your videos I've developed a fascination for business failures/crises, and I am now a PR major focusing in crisis communication. Thank you for continuing to educate and inspire me!!

  • @NFS305

    @NFS305

    Жыл бұрын

    That’s so cool! I’m going to look into crisis communication! I once thought about a peace and conflict resolution degree from university of Hawaii. Good program!

  • @laneyhesse8102

    @laneyhesse8102

    Жыл бұрын

    Awesome! Go you! Good luck, ❤❤🎉

  • @BrightSunFilms

    @BrightSunFilms

    Жыл бұрын

    I cannot understate how unbelievable that is to me. Thank you so much for following what I do and I am incredibly proud that these videos were able to insipid you. Best of luck to you in the future!

  • @hbshined

    @hbshined

    Жыл бұрын

    @@BrightSunFilms thank you jake!

  • @alexlents4689

    @alexlents4689

    Жыл бұрын

    I first subscribed in 2017, when I was in 8th grade and only just starting to watch KZread, one of my first subscriptions, Now I’m a college freshman and I’ve never unsubscribed. Back then, your content was already solid, but it’s been so cool watching you grow in both success and talent since then (kinda like a dad watching his son grow up). Now your 100% free content is better than most stuff on TV, which you have to pay to see. Thank you, Jake, for so many years of great entertainment, and I can’t wait to see where you go from here!

  • @planescaped
    @planescaped Жыл бұрын

    I am surprised they started with 3 ships, instead of just using one and seeing how it went.

  • @johnryman1366

    @johnryman1366

    Жыл бұрын

    They were used from Cruisers goin out of biz

  • @JulieWallis1963

    @JulieWallis1963

    Жыл бұрын

    Ask for a refund on your business management degree…please.

  • @Cpt_Boony_Hat

    @Cpt_Boony_Hat

    Жыл бұрын

    I’m not sure if this translates to civilian shipping at all but Navy likes to have a rule of 3 rule one going one getting worked on and one getting ready to work

  • @linkspeaks
    @linkspeaks Жыл бұрын

    I sailed on the Pride of Hawaii in summer of 2007, I guess within that short period it was in service in Hawaii under that name. One thing I never understood was why there was a huge model of the SS America and basically a whole room dedicated to it near the bridge. Thanks to this video, I get it now.

  • @thelowfiassembleclub

    @thelowfiassembleclub

    Жыл бұрын

    Oh I remember this trip! Christmas 2007 pride of Hawaii.. our Honolulu stop was the best from arriving and departing. I feel like I have weirdly lost apart of my love of cruises for some reason 😅 first and best but definitely will remember forever

  • @urofseron

    @urofseron

    Жыл бұрын

    We have had a lot of sex on the POA’s balconies over the years

  • @doc2w534

    @doc2w534

    Жыл бұрын

    The Library on board still has the model of the SS America.

  • @connie_360

    @connie_360

    Жыл бұрын

    Pride of Aloha was the name in 2002 or so - was my first cruise ever. I think it is the Sun now. did not know about dalies and laid by the pool drinking blue drinks and hanging out by the lanai, did not know there was other food either.

  • @Bearrrrrrrrr

    @Bearrrrrrrrr

    Жыл бұрын

    I took a cruise while it was "Pride of Hawaii" I think it was spring 06' or 07' maybe I never saw the model being from Colorado and spending 90% of my time both admiring the ocean and being terrified. If you were there with me, I was the camo jacket guy, holding tight to the opposite railing during the lava flow turn around. Waking up at dawn watching whales was a highlight on the activities deck

  • @mountaineernews2
    @mountaineernews2 Жыл бұрын

    Sick new intro I love it

  • @TheDavis7029

    @TheDavis7029

    Жыл бұрын

    Reminds me of House of Cards

  • @BewareTheLilyOfTheValley

    @BewareTheLilyOfTheValley

    Жыл бұрын

    So I'm not going crazy and it was different! Loved it :)

  • @luke9361

    @luke9361

    Жыл бұрын

    Marry it

  • @realswagmediagroup

    @realswagmediagroup

    Жыл бұрын

    @@luke9361 😱😱😱

  • @ProvidingSpam

    @ProvidingSpam

    Жыл бұрын

    @@luke9361 nahhhh 💀

  • @hilaryhowserkendrick552
    @hilaryhowserkendrick552 Жыл бұрын

    This is such a full circle moment for me. BSF has been one of my absolute favorite channels for years.. to see a whole video on a ship I worked on for years?! So wild.

  • @JohnADpeters

    @JohnADpeters

    Жыл бұрын

    I just got off my contract POA 6 weeks ago.

  • @joshuamiller2627

    @joshuamiller2627

    11 ай бұрын

    I'm bout to work on the ship

  • @joshuamiller2627

    @joshuamiller2627

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@JohnADpeterswhat department are you in I'm going to be utility hotel and leaving for training soon then il be heading to the ship

  • @jordanclark7675
    @jordanclark7675 Жыл бұрын

    I work on the Pride of America. I was a waiter and I was on it Germany when it half sunk, I was on it when we sailed to New York and picked up Regis and Kelly and they had their show on it, I was on it when we went to the Panama Canal, and when we first got to Hawaii. I worked on the ship for 2 1/2 years.

  • @messiah2895

    @messiah2895

    Жыл бұрын

    How much does lifeguard get.paid on this ship?

  • @sunshine3914
    @sunshine3914 Жыл бұрын

    More proof so many Americans aren’t playing with a full deck. In 2000, I was seeking federal aid to purchase a 2-truck trucking business with proven income that I could comfortably payoff the $30k within 3 years. A federal business consultant told me to forget about my plans, & to write a plan that included purchasing all new equipment & ask for a loan of three million. Lil ol’ me owing someone $3M? No thank you!

  • @yesterdayseyes

    @yesterdayseyes

    4 ай бұрын

    There's stupid people all over the world. You're the perfect example.

  • @blastermaster5039

    @blastermaster5039

    3 ай бұрын

    Damn...

  • @jlousy1901
    @jlousy1901 Жыл бұрын

    We sailed during our honeymoon in 2014... and recommended it to my parents who later went in 2016... nothing beats this itinerary! The cruise is your hotel, interisland transportation and your restaurant. It harbours overnight and stays late... making car rental excursions easy, cheap and worth doing! the afternoon it spends along the Napali coast is absolutely breathtaking. Highly recommend if you want to see the main 4 islands.

  • @jaytee5692
    @jaytee5692 Жыл бұрын

    I got hired by NCL America back around 2004 as a chef. I ended up not going because of life circumstances, but I now regret not having had that chance as I think it would have been a fun temporary job.

  • @ACoolKidsProduction

    @ACoolKidsProduction

    Жыл бұрын

    I work in video and went to a stop on their nationwide touring presentation in 2011 and it was a little bit of a red flag that they had to scour the country for enough Americans to keep one ship staffed, which suggested high turnover. The following year I got a job as a Holland-America Line videographer and while there, someone in the know told me that NCLA had the lowest guest-satisfaction ratings on attitudes of the crew, as Americans just aren't used to working in such hard conditions as people from developing nations area. So another bad sign. My own experience as a HAL videographer was exhausting but fascinating. You get used to things like never having days off or working through your third cold in as many months, but you trade it for amazing travel experiences that you'd have never gotten otherwise.

  • @Mmmmm83838

    @Mmmmm83838

    Жыл бұрын

    Just got a job with them bartending- I’ll let you know how it is lol

  • @johnl.7754

    @johnl.7754

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Mmmmm83838 how did it go?

  • @joshuamiller2627

    @joshuamiller2627

    11 ай бұрын

    You can always reapply and go still

  • @christophermeyer9534
    @christophermeyer9534 Жыл бұрын

    I have been sailing NCL for many years, and have been saving to go on NCL America, the title of this video nearly gave me a heart attack 😂

  • @AaronShenghao

    @AaronShenghao

    Жыл бұрын

    NCL is rather big shipping company, certainly will make the news if they went bust. Luckily, it's just this branch of NCL is plagued with problems...

  • @02sparklestars02

    @02sparklestars02

    Жыл бұрын

    My cruise experience on Pride of America left me wondering if I’d ever cruise NCL again. Check out my comment.

  • @broccanmacronain457

    @broccanmacronain457

    Жыл бұрын

    The same here as we have reservations on the Pride of America in 2024.

  • @therobertpetty

    @therobertpetty

    Жыл бұрын

    @@broccanmacronain457 2024? jesus christ are cruises that backed up???

  • @broccanmacronain457

    @broccanmacronain457

    Жыл бұрын

    @@therobertpetty No I booked it while on our Northern Atlantic Cruise this year, there was a promotion. We can't afford to cruise every year.

  • @dionb5174
    @dionb5174 Жыл бұрын

    I used to work on the Pride of America for it's maiden voyage. I worked as a cook on the ship for 3 contracts (each contract was for 5 months) I enjoyed my time on that ship and I also was on the Pride of Hawaii. I was apart of the crew that brought the America from Germany to Hawaii. It was an adventure I will never forget. If they were talking wages at the time I was only making $8.65/hr with 10 years of experience under my belt when I joined, the only way to move up was to be friends who could help you get a promotion.

  • @josephkaumo2352

    @josephkaumo2352

    Жыл бұрын

    I worked on the Pride of Aloha and was promised I would be selected to go to Germany and come across the Atlantic on the new ship ( no passengers). The higher ups reneged because I was too valuable in Hawaii so I quit after my contract was up.

  • @DjLBones
    @DjLBones Жыл бұрын

    Just wanna say Jake, your videos honestly are some of the best, and well done content I've seen on KZread. Keep up the good work!

  • @BrightSunFilms

    @BrightSunFilms

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much!

  • @CarlosGarcia2
    @CarlosGarcia2 Жыл бұрын

    I was a crew member on the maiden voyage of the Pride of America and if those walls could talk. So many great memories onboard and it's pretty crazy that she's still sailing to this day. Thanks for the video, it brought back a lot of memories!

  • @user-wo2iq5yt9k
    @user-wo2iq5yt9k Жыл бұрын

    Hi Jake...Love your videos. I actually sailed onboard the Pride of Hawaii as a member of the crew (Engineering Cadet) and was onboard the vessel when the company announced they were taking the ship out of US service and reflagging her. One major point that stood out to me (other than the lack of a casino which is a major revenue generator) was how American customers were much more willing to book excursions using companies other than NCL. Since it was a US ship operating in the US, many outside vendors set up shop selling directly to passengers, thus taking business from the cruise line. Basically, onboard spending by US passengers was significantly less than compared to similar ships because those passengers were much more willing to spend their money exploring a US State on their own as opposed to being in a foreign country and relying on the Cruise Line. The crew onboard at the time of the reflag was actually pretty good, and many were loyal to NCL (at least the non-licensed crew) and although the pay wasn't great compared to other US Flagged merchant ships, it offered several other perks to the crew. Anyway, it's always fun watching your videos and especially awesome seeing something that I have some personal experience in. This was really great and good job. Keep it up!

  • @Blue-Star-Line
    @Blue-Star-Line Жыл бұрын

    Have been waiting to see a video on this for a long time! Excellent video Jake! Loved the new intro for Bankrupt!

  • @davidgeorge1294
    @davidgeorge1294 Жыл бұрын

    I sailed on the Independence. They failed to tell us at booking that the entire ship except for us 3 young people were in wheelchairs. AARP had booked nearly every cabin for a convention. No casino, no disco, no night club no night entertainment what so ever not even a single bar was open after 9pm. We were board out of our minds. Had to entertain ourselves wich got us into trouble that I won't go into here. Except for that it was a great cruise on one of the few ocean liners left sailing. Please remember the Indy and the Cony we're not cruise ships. They were in fact ocean liners built to cross the Atlantic ocean in all kinds of weather.

  • @DavidNgo86

    @DavidNgo86

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes ocean liners converted to cruise ships

  • @rongendron8705

    @rongendron8705

    Жыл бұрын

    I crossed the Atlantic on the Independence in 2010 & had a good time! They should have told you that the the ship was booked by AARP. Did you get a bargain price? That ship was a 'biggy', but I don't think that it was technically an oceanliner! I sailed on the QE 2 & that's an oceanliner!

  • @FreshKicksCM
    @FreshKicksCM Жыл бұрын

    Jake! I used to be a sailor on the Pride of America! I love your videos and when this one came up, it was like two areas of my life having a crossover episode! I can't lie, I got really nervous seeing the video title. I love this ship, and although I agree with it being one of the ugliest cruise ships out there, it was my home, right there on forward deck 2, starboard side.

  • @bjturon
    @bjturon Жыл бұрын

    I had a co-worker at a Saratoga Springs hotel who worked on this cruise ship :) The mistake made by NCL was going too big into Hawaiian cruises, if they had just gone with the Pride of America (uh, with the Pride of Aloha name and interior decor) then the venture would have been seen as a modest success, as the one-ship operation has proven to be many years later.

  • @maxchen7229
    @maxchen7229 Жыл бұрын

    My family will take a cruise by Pride of America before this Christmas. It’s much more expensive than the other cruise. Now I know why and thank you for sharing this video. We’ll see how our experience compares with others.

  • @doc2w534
    @doc2w534 Жыл бұрын

    Pride of America was my first NCL cruise. It is such an awkward ship that you can’t not laugh and enjoy it. NCL has some great stories underlying their ships. Like the Star and Epic.

  • @rberks5

    @rberks5

    Жыл бұрын

    Don't forget the SS Norway. Sad how it's boiler exploded.

  • @ACoolKidsProduction

    @ACoolKidsProduction

    Жыл бұрын

    Huh, I'd been on the Star and had no idea that it had such a backstory until your comment got me to check Wikipedia for it!

  • @ncg5560
    @ncg5560 Жыл бұрын

    I sailed on The Pride of Aloha in April of 2005 and had a wonderful experience. All the crew members were terrific and very accommodating. I always recommend it to other people. Such a shame to hear that it did not go well. I noticed that these cruises are still available today though and I would definitely go again.

  • @markwagner4909
    @markwagner4909 Жыл бұрын

    We were on the pride of America and was one of the best experience I’ve ever had on a cruise. There were 10 of us on this trip and it was a fantastic trip as we got to experience the Hawaiian islands and history with the ships excursion packages

  • @MrHistory269
    @MrHistory26911 ай бұрын

    I’ve lived in Hawaii all my life, and I see Pride of America basically all the time. (saw it yesterday actually) but never gave it any thought at all. Really interesting video!

  • @jedlikestrains7599
    @jedlikestrains7599 Жыл бұрын

    I would definitely love to see a review on the Pride Of America.

  • @drchowder4605
    @drchowder4605 Жыл бұрын

    I’m sick and just woke up from a nap while listening to a James Willems (from Funhaus) compilation. This is the next video I picked, and hearing “Jake Williams” literally made me think I was dreaming and try to wake up again. Love the content and production on all of your videos, really amazing all around.

  • @JustinLieber
    @JustinLieber Жыл бұрын

    So glad we got a travel review channel. Glad you took my comment to heart about asking for a review for your concierge trip on the fantasy!

  • @laurastedman2771
    @laurastedman2771 Жыл бұрын

    I was supposed to go one of these NCL ships around Hawaii for my honeymoon summer 2008. We had already paid deposits and picked out shore excursions. So it was really strange when we were notified that our cruise was cancelled and the ship was not going to be used for these cruises anymore. It is interesting to see the backstory and hear what lead to this change.

  • @rberks5

    @rberks5

    Жыл бұрын

    That happened to my parents as well but they just moved the reservation to the Pride of America at no extra cost. NCL also paid for their airline change fee and gave some on board credit.

  • @deniseweinke9929
    @deniseweinke9929 Жыл бұрын

    I just got off the Pride of America on October 8th. This was my second time on this itinerary. The ship was about half full and the service was not up to what we had experienced the first time. Still a great way to see the islands.

  • @rberks5

    @rberks5

    Жыл бұрын

    They are having staffing issues again and are limiting capacity.

  • @jasonarcher7268
    @jasonarcher7268 Жыл бұрын

    I used to be a dive contractor for NCL. I loved working on the pride of America. We'd board the ship on Oahu and then dive on Maui and the big island. It was weird being on the pride though, since it was an American crew. Very different atmosphere on board than the rest of the NCL boats.

  • @stuff___idontknow2610
    @stuff___idontknow2610 Жыл бұрын

    I live in hawaii and most of the time when I go into downtown where the port is located, I would see the pride of america

  • @captain_commenter8796
    @captain_commenter8796 Жыл бұрын

    That is an absolutely AMAZING intro! Feels like I’m watching a 101% serious and informational documentary!

  • @HSAC.WDTK.DTKT.LFO.

    @HSAC.WDTK.DTKT.LFO.

    Жыл бұрын

    There is a decade of content to enjoy!

  • @Soufriere84

    @Soufriere84

    Жыл бұрын

    >>"Feels like I’m watching a 101% serious and informational documentary!" Yeah, that's pretty much what Jake has become over the past few years. It's been a treat to witness his evolution

  • @philiproszak1678
    @philiproszak1678 Жыл бұрын

    You just keep crushing it. One of the best.

  • @BrightSunFilms

    @BrightSunFilms

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @alexcutionman4569
    @alexcutionman4569 Жыл бұрын

    I’ve sailed the Pride of America. Nice little ship. Honestly would sail again even tho it’s a little dated

  • @nab2420
    @nab2420 Жыл бұрын

    It is insanely funny how I am in a cabin on this very ship about to leave when this video is posted.

  • @alizagna6254
    @alizagna6254 Жыл бұрын

    As a supply chain management graduate and now working in finance, I love your bankrupt and abandoned videos. So fascinating. Also kinda helps when making career choices and see foreshadowing in business decisions and direction they aim for. Keep it up, Jake. Thanks for the videos

  • @Kryspatience
    @Kryspatience Жыл бұрын

    I gotta say Jake, I've watched every single one of your videos, and they're just better every single time, but still very much interesting. Thank you for taking the time to make such great content! Btw I love the new intro.

  • @BrightSunFilms

    @BrightSunFilms

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much!!

  • @masennus2495

    @masennus2495

    Жыл бұрын

    @@BrightSunFilms BSF has been my favourite channel for years. All the best from Finland :)

  • @Kryspatience

    @Kryspatience

    Жыл бұрын

    @@masennus2495 I'm from Quebec, in Canada so his audience is definitely from all around the world, (and he deserves it!!)

  • @evangewho56
    @evangewho56 Жыл бұрын

    @Cheyenne, went to a NCL employee interview in San Pedro, CA. Surprised it was sparsely attended and some who came left after talking to a recruiter before the presentation and found out why. For me, it was when I found out that 4 people had to share one cabin and left then but it was difficult for them to find a crew because most Americans are wealthier than the more common workers who are people who are from poor Asian or East European countries, who normally work on a cruise ship in housekeeping and food service. I think I read somewhere and an act was passed that although this ship flagged as a US one they now can hire NON-Americans.

  • @sanguine2552

    @sanguine2552

    5 ай бұрын

    Which is criminal tbh. All cruise companies exploit a loophole in American law that allows them to employ foreigners and pay them a few dollars a day and work them like animals. It’s insane we allow this when they make the bulk of their money off Americans, that these ships send no money back to our country by supporting any US jobs at all! Ridiculous

  • @ETAudioGuy
    @ETAudioGuy Жыл бұрын

    WOAH JAKE THE NEW INTRO GOES HARD!!! Never fail to deliver in the quality department

  • @ChaseBernard
    @ChaseBernard Жыл бұрын

    Hey Bright Sun! I've been watching your content for a long time and I love it. Could you do a bankrupt episode on Escada America?

  • @poorwotan
    @poorwotan Жыл бұрын

    A couple of glaring errors in this video: The Jones Act only pertains to cargo (the PSVA is the passenger counterpart). While all three major cruise lines are headquartered in the US, Carnival is a dual incorporated company in Panama and the UK, Royal Caribbean is incorporated in Liberia, and Norwegian Cruise Line is incorporated in Bermuda. At the time this all went down, Norwegian was a subsidiary of the Asian cruise conglomerate Star Cruises (Malaysia). Personal opinion: I think the Hawaii cruise market is overly ripe for a ~200 passenger US flagged true 5 star cruise line/ship. That size is still buildable in the US and you need less crew to run your operations. It also means you can pick, choose, and properly train your crew members to offer a real 5 star cruise even using US crew.

  • @poorwotan

    @poorwotan

    Жыл бұрын

    @taramcgavan7654 I do follow the industry but completely on an amateur level (say vs. an Analyst of a stock brokerage firm). What I do find "funny" is how often the Jones Act and the PSVA get confused; they sorta do the same thing but one is cargo the other passengers. There's also interesting things in these acts (old time lobbying efforts???). For example, you CAN transport passengers specifically between Puerto Rico and Miami with a non-US flagged vessel. This provision was used by the cruise lines after Hurricane Maria to help move people out of PR but if you got the money to do it, and think there's a market, here's nothing stopping anyone right now of buying a foreign flagged ship, crew it internationally, and do that run commercially...

  • @ultimatenacholunchable
    @ultimatenacholunchable Жыл бұрын

    I worked aboard the Pride of America. Excited to watch this.

  • @marqbarq5977
    @marqbarq5977 Жыл бұрын

    Great video. Keep up the good work Jake. Proud to support your work.

  • @the-computer-guy33
    @the-computer-guy33 Жыл бұрын

    I always get excited when another video gets posted to this channel

  • @austinlawler3739
    @austinlawler3739 Жыл бұрын

    I used to live in Hawaii between 2014 and 2017, every week like clock work you would see the ship in Honolulu (the day of the week is escaping me). I knew a local who took it when he had his kids and grand kids visit. I remember it was very expensive, and he was more or less meh on it when he got back to Honolulu. The Jones Act in general is still a bit controversial as it means there is Matson and PASHA for cargo ships, and Young Brothers for inter island freight, that's it. When Matson was wanting to build new ships, they said having it built in America was twice as expensive as it would be in Asia. There was some talk about rewriting the law in the late 2010's but nothing came of it.

  • @ChrisStargazer

    @ChrisStargazer

    Жыл бұрын

    I know what you mean. I worked in Downtown Honolulu on some Saturdays and I believe the POA’s departure day was indeed Saturday (Sunday was Pride of Aloha’s, and Monday was Pride of Hawaii’s). She was magnificent looking, moored at the pier and, if you caught her on the right week, standing next to Aloha Tower.

  • @erikh9991

    @erikh9991

    Жыл бұрын

    I was stay in Kona with an ocean front view the last week of June and I saw a ship running the tenders to shore. Pretty cool.

  • @Photo0021
    @Photo0021 Жыл бұрын

    I was just on the NCL Pride of America last week. Interesting timing.

  • @rkenzie5235
    @rkenzie52357 ай бұрын

    This was a really cool explanation of maritime laws/why ships stop in foreign ports, not just between US ports!

  • @cheyennecomeaux3253
    @cheyennecomeaux3253 Жыл бұрын

    I almost worked on the price of America but they basically ghosted a bunch of people during the hiring process and by the time they reached back out, everyone has already taken different jobs so this was so fascinating!!

  • @wyster14

    @wyster14

    Жыл бұрын

    Same here! I was already past the interview and in the part of submitting information when they ghosted me

  • @ACoolKidsProduction

    @ACoolKidsProduction

    Жыл бұрын

    Somewhat similar experience with Carnival. Applied to be a videographer and someone was supposed to contact me about an interview and never got back to me. Never got a response when I tried to email back, either. Still being unemployed months later, I contacted the department directly. Turned out that the individual who was supposed to contact me was "no longer with us" (dead or fired, I'll never know) and "we'll do some soul-searching and get back to you." I ended up getting the interview, but not the job. Got what was surely a better one with Holland-America the following year anyway.

  • @mspinki5820
    @mspinki5820 Жыл бұрын

    I sailed on Norwegian sky in 2008. I enjoyed it.

  • @thatscool1550
    @thatscool1550 Жыл бұрын

    omg Jake. I have been watching your channel for years and years. I cannot believe but can because your vids are amazing YOU have over a million subscribers OMG I was like in the hundreds!! You do so much work for your channel and viewers and I am so proud of you. I finally figured out how to change my name on youtube from my actual name after almost a decade so I feel like I lost some history on beginning channels like yours but hell I am so proud of your growth!! You did it. awesome Jake! congrats. Love from Oregon.

  • @johnschoen-mccullough6251
    @johnschoen-mccullough6251 Жыл бұрын

    Wonderfully made episode! very informative- your style and approach to chronicling entities from the conception, rise (or lack thereof) and fall always is engaging :)

  • @classiclyricsofyourfaves5734
    @classiclyricsofyourfaves5734 Жыл бұрын

    I have a recommendation for you, you should do abandoned Grossinger’s Resort in Liberty NY USA and do commentary about it and how financial troubles sunk in and that stuff

  • @alexanddra
    @alexanddra Жыл бұрын

    Excited for the new channel! Great video as always

  • @garrettp.5018
    @garrettp.5018 Жыл бұрын

    Mentioned in this video was that NCL America brought NCL parent closest to bankruptcy as ever. Would like to see how that compares to current times. Also, your quality and detail of work is amazing. Would like to see you do a video on the current situation of cruise lines, al of running unprofitability and just clicking away time until they all go bankrupt.

  • @xofashionable
    @xofashionable Жыл бұрын

    I’m here for the new channel Jake, wonderful idea!

  • @OwnedGolem
    @OwnedGolem Жыл бұрын

    Loving the new intro! Looks like a legit documentary! (Also really happy that you kept the same audio cuz that was my favorite part)

  • @davidarts1522
    @davidarts1522 Жыл бұрын

    NCL Pride of America is doing just fine right now. the ship is consistently booked full.

  • @greengrands
    @greengrands Жыл бұрын

    We sailed on Pride of Aloha 7 day inter island cruise in April, 2005. The all American cruise crew (waiters, cabin stewards) were dismal compared to international crews normally on cruise ships. The itinerary was wonderful, but the college kids serving us were awful.

  • @ko9446

    @ko9446

    Жыл бұрын

    About that time we were on the Star that stopped off at Kiribati. I can remember passengers on the NCL America ships bitching about service when we were next to them in the Hawaiian ports. Some said many of the crew would walk off at each port because of the long hours covering for some who left.

  • @josephkaumo2352

    @josephkaumo2352

    Жыл бұрын

    The last month I worked on the Pride of Aloha was April 2005. Management was HORRIBLE! We were overworked , understaffed and the list goes on and on. I had a manager just "erase" over 30 plus hours of overtime because the higher ups were breathing down their throats on labor cost. Not to mention the people in the majority of the management positions were just employees who didn't just walk off the ship previously when over 800 employees did at one time! So NO ONE really had any management experience. Top that off with they were serving the leftovers from up top to the crew.... IT was pretty shitty. But I would do it all over again if I could.

  • @AMD7027
    @AMD7027 Жыл бұрын

    What happened was they misunderstood the market. They envisioned three huge ships when they were replacing two much smaller ships (SS Independence and Constitution). Their view of the market was so so wrong. As It is a single Jewel Class cruise ship could carry the same number of passengers as the two ships it replaced. Thus, NCL showed up with a product that had 3x the max needed capacity, and they wonder why it didn’t work….

  • @anthonyd3661
    @anthonyd3661 Жыл бұрын

    Yah you should book a vacation on the pride of American would make a good video

  • @GonkDroid0923
    @GonkDroid0923 Жыл бұрын

    Though I never sailed on it, I have lived on Maui for the past 12 years and this one of a kind ship, has been a commen sight.

  • @ErikZarins
    @ErikZarins Жыл бұрын

    Okay I love the intro!!!! It had an American Greed vibe

  • @jaredthompson3011
    @jaredthompson3011 Жыл бұрын

    I was on the POA in 2017. I would love to do this cruise around Hawaii again however I'm not spending 12 hours flying to Hawaii all cramped up. Nice video Jake.

  • @ajabailey6639
    @ajabailey6639 Жыл бұрын

    This is crazy I worked on PoA from 2017-2019. So surprised to see this lol

  • @FirstLast-fl7mo
    @FirstLast-fl7mo Жыл бұрын

    I went on the Norwegian Jade a few years ago, and the thing I recall most was the VERY phallic staircases

  • @planedudea380
    @planedudea380 Жыл бұрын

    Fascinating. Love these niche historical reviews. Also love the small details like the materials for the second Project America ship were actually used on the Pride of Hawaii / NCL Jade.

  • @cjmarsh504
    @cjmarsh504 Жыл бұрын

    I used to work for Norwegian Cruise Lines of America for two years. I was working on the pride of America, which was my first ship. Then, I transferred to the Pride of Hawai'i (Jade) later on. I saw the writing on the wall in 2007 once the housing bubble collapsed. I worked with in NCLA from 2005-2007. Yes, you're right, the NCLA had a high turnover rate.

  • @AngelicaNyqvist
    @AngelicaNyqvist Жыл бұрын

    Oh so EARLY! :D

  • @chumbawumba1959
    @chumbawumba1959 Жыл бұрын

    Great vid. Had no idea at the history of NCL POA and its sister ships. We sailed on POA in 2018. You are right ... very old in design, but the NCL 'free style' way of cruising is perfectly suited to it. One thing, many of the POA Hawaiian cruises will have some issue and miss at least one port. We missed Kona due to issues on being unable to dock due to wave heights.

  • @Marpat-Camo
    @Marpat-Camo Жыл бұрын

    Always look forward to a new video every other Friday. Great way to start the weekend :)

  • @newsman9539
    @newsman9539 Жыл бұрын

    I love the new intro Jake. Nice job.

  • @ilovecoresY423
    @ilovecoresY423 Жыл бұрын

    This intro is sick! Nice work dude!

  • @BrightSunFilms

    @BrightSunFilms

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @YukariAkiyamaTanks
    @YukariAkiyamaTanks Жыл бұрын

    There's an interesting story about the flag of Convience and it evolved a small German ship named the "Scantrader." Also great video Jake! I never knew the story of this ship. Interesting the story of cruises going from American ports to American ports. They were a lot in the 50s and 60s.

  • @beautifulflorida
    @beautifulflorida Жыл бұрын

    Great and informative film! Thank you!

  • @BrightSunFilms

    @BrightSunFilms

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching!

  • @Overmannus
    @Overmannus Жыл бұрын

    Always a pleasure watching your videos Jake. Never give up!

  • @davedoesthingsdreaded
    @davedoesthingsdreaded Жыл бұрын

    I was on pride of America in 2020 when covid started and they ended all contracts and sent us home. All the things said about flag of convenience was correct

  • @checktheherbsbaby
    @checktheherbsbaby Жыл бұрын

    LOVE LOVE LOVE YOUR CHANNEL! I also love your content in general its put together so well and done with respect. Keep it coming! Beautiful work!

  • @SingerEsq
    @SingerEsq Жыл бұрын

    Love your videos. I worked on the SS Constitution for almost a year and sailed on her sister, the SS Indy, a couple of times with AHC. I loved both ships dearly and have quite a bit of memorabilia and pictures. I left in 1986, but was excited to hear about the formation of NCLA (especially the acquisition of the SS United States). But, the effects of 9/11 were far reaching. At least the POA is still out there, but yeah, she needs a re-do for sure!! The lack of a casino on a US ship was always a big issue with the passengers (and a revenue killer).

  • @xmtryanx

    @xmtryanx

    Жыл бұрын

    The lack of a casino is not specifically a 'US' ship, but just within Hawaii. All international ships also have to close down the casinos within Hawaiian waters due to HI state laws.

  • @SingerEsq

    @SingerEsq

    Жыл бұрын

    @@xmtryanx it’s not just HI laws. It’s the US laws. That’s why even current foreign flagged ships sailing nearby cannot open their casinos until they cross the line into international waters. It’s no different from a cruise from Vancouver to LA, which we just did. The minute they enter international waters, the casinos were open. Why AHC or NCLA did not just include a night or two outside that perimeter, I have no idea. It is not just HI law.

  • @xmtryanx

    @xmtryanx

    Жыл бұрын

    @@SingerEsq She could have a casino if she werent registered in Honolulu. The Hawaiian registry specificly prohibits it. Otherwise there absolutely could be gambling once in international waters if she were registered in, say, Louisiana. A casino was actually designed into the plan of POA, and it's now used as a 'cultural center,' if I'm not mistaken. The casino space was similarly designed and used on Pride of Hawaii, and returned to a casino when she became Norwegian Jade.

  • @SingerEsq

    @SingerEsq

    Жыл бұрын

    @@xmtryanx ocean going vessels are not registered by state (and certainly not by city, “Honolulu”). But by country. Just an FYI. Last time I checked …. and often had to remind passengers …. HI is a STATE of the UNITED STATES of America. The ships were never registered under the State of Hawaii (or the city of Honolulu.). The SS Constitution, the SS Independence and the Pride of America were registered and flew the flag of the United States regardless of where they sailed while so registered. I sailed on both the Connie and the Indy. I know their lineage and progeny well. Jake covered all of it very well.

  • @lgannawa
    @lgannawa Жыл бұрын

    Another GREAT video,Jake. You have come so far with your editing, voice overs and content. I will always be a subscriber.

  • @BrightSunFilms

    @BrightSunFilms

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much!

  • @WaterWorld1
    @WaterWorld1 Жыл бұрын

    Jake, another great video. I was always puzzled why NCL quickly deployed three ships in a "new" market for them. Why did they not tread gentry and see how the first NCL America ships performed. As for the SS United States, what an INSANE idea, given the difficulty of operating new- ships around Hawaii. (And yes, Pride is the ugliest cruise ship of all).

  • @coldwetheart
    @coldwetheart Жыл бұрын

    i love the new intros, great job jake! love the new content too! thanks for all your hard work!!

  • @BrightSunFilms

    @BrightSunFilms

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @duramaxadventures5832
    @duramaxadventures5832 Жыл бұрын

    Your channel is so underrated! One of teh few channels I actually have notifications on for!

  • @MarksKicksOnRoute66
    @MarksKicksOnRoute66 Жыл бұрын

    Jake and CO fantastic job as always sir. I enjoy getting the notification of new content. You've come so far since the days of the seldom seen video guy in ADR.

  • @robertc8072
    @robertc8072 Жыл бұрын

    Well written and well researched! Love your videos!

  • @LetsAllCruise
    @LetsAllCruise17 күн бұрын

    Great video! I've sailed on Pride of America and it's interesting to learn the history behind it.

  • @queerveg
    @queerveg Жыл бұрын

    Love this, makes it feel special that I got to sail on Pride of Aloha in HI in the 00s.

  • @wingerfan1
    @wingerfan1 Жыл бұрын

    Another awesome video from one of my favorite channels. Keep up the good work my wonderful friend.

  • @blaster-zy7xx
    @blaster-zy7xx Жыл бұрын

    I sailed on the pride of American through the Hawaiian islands and it was fabulous. I would love to do it again. It was a bit weird that the decor was so much I like the trip. I wonder why they didn’t just keep the pride of Aloha as their Hawaii ship. I have also cruised on the Sky (which was the pride of aloha). It was a smaller ship. Maybe that’s why.

  • @stixnpucks8710
    @stixnpucks8710 Жыл бұрын

    I sailed on this ship a little while ago, and while it was small it has been newly refurbished and in my opinion was a really nice cruise around the islands, though it is an old ship I had a great time on the boat

  • @NGMonocrom
    @NGMonocrom Жыл бұрын

    Sometimes it's just best to know your place, stay in your lane. I firmly believe that had the cruise line stayed as an aging ship business going round trip from America to Hawaii and back again, could have enjoyed some good profits. Later on, update those aging ships with newer ones. Expand slowly and cautiously. But they took on way too much, far too early. Seriously? How much in Federal loans?? and, who was the "genius" who approved those loans? Clearly, someone who had no business being in charge of tax-payer dollars.

  • @ceceb6264
    @ceceb6264 Жыл бұрын

    I’ve been on pride of American twice, loved both times. 2007 and 2019 good times good times.

  • @keiserious
    @keiserious Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Jake, now I understand the Jones Act which seems reasonable more than 100yrs later.

  • @CoasterTeaFox
    @CoasterTeaFox Жыл бұрын

    Love the new intro, it immediately conveys what kind of content you're going to see.

  • @katrinalara1795
    @katrinalara1795 Жыл бұрын

    Very interesting video with great information as always!! You’re the best

  • @GeneralJackRipper
    @GeneralJackRipper Жыл бұрын

    "You're towing ME, an AMERICAN ship, to GERMANY?" _SINKS_

  • @LordSmuggington
    @LordSmuggington Жыл бұрын

    The Jones act has had the side effect of greatly increasing the lifespan of the US Great Lakes merchant marine fleet. There are ships of WW2 vintage that are still working commercially today. Repowers and conversions occur, but the Jones act (and the lack of saltwater corrosion) keeps them from building cheaper, more modern ships overseas (as we're in doing Canada.) I prefer the old US ships personally, even though they're all just bulk freighters... More on topic, the Great Lakes has hosted plenty of passenger/cruise ships. Some unique to the lakes and, more recently, small Viking cruise ships. Very underrated route in my opinion. Then there's the legendary SS Badger herself.

  • @tanman99
    @tanman99 Жыл бұрын

    The Pride of America was my very first cruise. Went for our honeymoon in 2009 and it was amazing. I didn’t notice any drop in service (but I didn’t have anything to compare it to). IMO it’s the only way to cruise in Hawaii. Otherwise you loose so much vacation time (4 days at sea!) sailing to caribody(sp?) and back. At the time the price really wasn’t that bad either. Especially when you factor in how much a hotel and inter island transportation would cost. It was super easy to rent a car right from the port too and explore. Or you can book a tour. It’s the absolute best and most efficient way to see all four major islands in a week. I paired it with 5 days of self exploration in Maui before our cruise and it really was the ultimate Hawaiian vacation. So you have to think about the Pride of America different then any other cruises. The ship isn’t the highlight of your trip. You’re not going to be spending much time on board when she’s docked at port. But it was incredible waking up at a different island almost every night and having a nice comfy home base for all our adventures that we didn’t have to unpack and repack and travel to another hotel. HIGHLY recommend it.

  • @adrianwu492
    @adrianwu492 Жыл бұрын

    Very insightful, didn’t know any of this before ! Sailed on the pride of Hawaii AGES ago … and this explains so much

  • @MixedMutt808
    @MixedMutt808 Жыл бұрын

    I was a galley worker on the transitioning from Norwegian Sky to Pride of Aloha while sailing in the Caribbean. NCL America treated the American workers badly, lied about wages until you board the ship, 3,000 miles away from home. You had no choice but to sign it and get to work. 7 days a week, 12 hour days for $500 a month. Smh

  • @lauramoore8823
    @lauramoore8823 Жыл бұрын

    Just want to share, I added this to my watch later on the way to Hawaii (didn't get the memo that this would be so hawaii-specific), in Honolulu, I saw that the NCL ship in the thumbnail was docked and thought "oh weird, I wonder what the bankrupt episode is about", then I went on a whole google about Hawaiian cruises, why I've never thought about them before, ended up doing a deep dive on the pride of America bc holy CRAP that ship is nuts. Gaudy is right. Then, after returning home I am finally watching this. Thank you for all the context! I'm a TA on the side so my search was all about the ship and its itineraries, rather than the history and restraints put on the ship.

  • @WDI2008
    @WDI2008 Жыл бұрын

    Need to do Splendid China Florida next on Abandoned!

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