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Bands & Artists Who Need To Retire
Here I discuss both bands and artists who need to retire. The reason for these retirements mostly fall into the following categories: they have grown stale, they are now parodies of themselves, they have become cliched sounding same old same old, they are an embarrassment, their music is mediocre, they are just looking for money, and finally so many of them are just plain don’t have the talent anymore. etc. This is simply an opinion. It is a fan's perspective, that is all. #classicrock #hardrock #heavymetal #progrock #progressive rock #rocknroll
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I think the fans are just as much to blame as the artists, if not more so, as money sets the agenda...I know too many rock/metal fans who'd much rather see a legacy band play a 40-year old album it its entirety than earnestly explore any new artists, many of whom are just great if you give them the chance. Also, younger fans are not coming to the music in any great numbers; concerts and festivals are becoming a sea of grey hair. I am bracing for not much to endure 20-25 years from now.
@djacobmadrigal
4 ай бұрын
I agree. I’m always looking for new bands and artists to enjoy; sadly, too many of them I just find ok or mediocre at best. I am looking forward to Castle Rat’s first album which comes out on the 15th. They are a cool New York doom sword and sorcery band with a female vocalist.
Saxon do not need to retire..not yet
I was in high school in 1982 and I remember having a conversation with a schoolmate about Eric Clapton already being too old as he was almost 40 at the time. No one had the slightest clue that all those bands would still be touring at age 70 or 80. “50 years old” was considered ancient to us at that time.
Stevie Nicks
@SammySansone-er6cx
4 ай бұрын
She Sounds Like A Female Elmer Fudd...imho
Valid points. I totally agree! Good job 👍🏼 You forgot Queensryche
@djacobmadrigal
4 ай бұрын
Good call!
@djacobmadrigal
4 ай бұрын
Yes I totally forgot about Queensryche.
If you are still healthy and still capable of being independent and music was your life and passion and it's all you know why would you want to retire?You can be a inspiration to the younger musicians that there is still hope in your senior years. Music is great to keep the old grey matter healthy. Just my opinion no offense intended. 😎👍
Eric Clapton.
Stones, Springsteen (Never Like Him) For Starters
Paul McCartney. Ringo Starr. The Rolling Stones. The 3 remaining original members of KISS as band members and as solo artists. Elton John. The remaining members of Fleetewood Mac. ELO, OMD, Siouxsie, Roger Waters, Animotion.
@djacobmadrigal
4 ай бұрын
I mentioned Roger Waters. ELO just recently announced this will be their last tour. I’m pretty sure Elton retired at least from touring. Ur right about Fleetwood Mac!
100% agree with your views. The exception to that rule is Glenn Hughes. Still touring, still sounding bloody brilliant 🤘
@djacobmadrigal
4 ай бұрын
Glenn Hughes is still going strong indeed. 😊
In my humble opinion, bands should retire when they are ready to retire. This topic is completely a personal opinion, for instance, I know people who love Deep Purples material pre-Steve Morse only and I know people who love Purple with Morse just as much if not more than classic Purple. I also don't agree it's all about ego. If a band continues on, perhaps they love what they do, money or no money, it's up to the fans to decide what is worth paying for. While some fans are okay paying $6000 for a VIP meet and greet, on the other hand there are fans like me who only pay for nose bleeds and parking lot tee shirts. Although I don't agree with the topic of your video, I appreciate the topic of your video because the reality is, within the next 10 years, these classic bands will be gone and I feel they will be missed more than we realize.
"Lynyrd Skynyrd" & "Molly Hatchet" Put their names in quotes because neither band has 1 original member. It's pathetic. Glorified tribute bands. Shouldn't cost more than $5 a ticket to see either of them
I think once a classic band goes down to only a couple of original members , then they become a tribute act . Iron Maiden don’t fall into that category. AC/DC and Judas Priest certainly do, Deep Purple also. Whilst bands like these can still attract an audience , promoters will still want them .
Aerosmith, to me, is a band that is a parody of their self.
@djacobmadrigal
4 ай бұрын
Good call; I totally forgot about them. I have not liked them since Rock In A Hard Place, their truly last great album.
@happyhippythevinylguy
4 ай бұрын
@@djacobmadrigal yes it was. I saw that tour
Iron maiden had some great albums after BNW
@djacobmadrigal
4 ай бұрын
I wish I felt the same way. Thanks for sharing ur opinion.
Your spot-on dude!!!!
eagles now as they dont sing live lol
Reo speedwagon?I think Kevin Cronin voice is weak and gone.
Thanks for taking the time to share your opinion.😀
I’d say at least half of those bands you listed are broke and have to keep touring. It’s so obvious with the black crows, and they’re not the black crows now. Wouldn’t see them now if I was given a ticket and paid to attend.
Definitely John Melonhead
@djacobmadrigal
4 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
Well I’m glad you r enjoying them still. I’m just not feeling it with them anymore.
Guns and roses I hundred percent agree same with kiss. The other bands you mentioned I don't really listen to.
I agree with you about Deep Purple. I haven't liked one of their albums for a long, long time. I doubt a new guitarist will suddenly spruce them up. However, with a new guitarist, I am very curious what a new studio album would yield. Give the new guy a go with another album and if it fizzles, then respectfully retire. And also, I couldn't agree with you more about David Coverdale's voice. It's shot. Time to stop.
A talent is never lost if you ever had it ,it gets lost if you don't use it. 😎
KISS went on far too long. AC/DC, as much as I love them aren’t what they were as far as albums go. The Stones are an obvious one too. Metallica as well, but they still put on a good show. Just a question for you, would you still see any of these artists live?. I would, but it’s the albums that are the problem. Everyone has just so much in them. We tend to compare their old stuff to the new and it doesn’t measure up. Thanks Dane, I always enjoy your videos.
@djacobmadrigal
4 ай бұрын
I would consider Metallica and Iron Maiden; but that would probably be it. Thanks so much for commenting and watching. 😊
A couple of people have complained that I don’t explain why these bands should retire. For most of them I do, they are just short and succinct; no I do not give a lot of details. It’s just the way I wanted to present my video otherwise it would have been close to 45 minutes long. In addition I believe saying that a band’s stuff isn’t any good anymore is a good reason. I’m not going to belabor the issue. Overall, if you would please read the description of the video before you watch it would help to understand where I’m coming from.
“Every band of the 70’s, 80’s and 90’s”. 🙄
KISS
@djacobmadrigal
4 ай бұрын
Kiss are retired so they say. We’ll see. They should have retired a long time ago.
First two that came to mind during your intro - U2 and The Who. I was big U2 fan in the 80s and 90s, I can hardly listen to their early music I liked, because they've become so bad, such a caricature. The Who, I think I had 3 new versions of Live at Leeds, and there's probably 2 more. Turns out the original Six Song Live at Leeds is the best version. But I will disagree with Iron Maiden. Senjutsu is really an excellent album that I might prefer over Seventh Son or Somewhere In Time.
I haven't liked U2 since Sunday Bloody Sunday, I Will Follow and New Years Day
Please read the description section for an overall view of why I believe these bands should retire.
I'm not a big fan of "The Who By Numbers", but I quite like "Who Are You", and their latest "WHO" album. I think that's a return to form, after three so-so albums, "Face Dances", "It's Hard" and "Endless Wire". I wasn't a big fan of any Rolling Stones album since "Steel Wheels", but I quite like their latest "Hackney Diamonds" release. The first Stones album I play all the way through, since "Steel Wheels". But, they are certainly way past their prime live.
@djacobmadrigal
4 ай бұрын
I like the title track Who Are You. Face Dances and It’s Hard I think are terrible.
I think most of the comments here-even the dissenting ones-are generally respectful
Paul McCartney....sorry folks.😢
@djacobmadrigal
4 ай бұрын
Yes I forgot about him and Ringo.
Gilmour last toured in 2016. He's working on new material, but no shows have been mentioned. I don't expect any.
@djacobmadrigal
4 ай бұрын
I heard cannot recall from who that he was planning a tour.
Aerosmith
Talent but just need to end it. Even though I love the follwing: BOC Cheap Trick Foghat Kansas Foreigner Jethro Tull
@djacobmadrigal
4 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing
Brilliant video. I agree 1000% with all the bands you mentioned. My own choices in no order would be: AC/DC - Powerage was a bit patchy Megadeth - The last fantastic album for me was 'Youthanasia'. I was let down by all the albums afterward Saxon - That new album was not great at all. I love the late 70's, 80's, and early 90's stuff Metallica - Haven't lived/loved anything since Black Album Moonspell Iron Maiden - Senjitsu was a bit disappointing. They should have called it quits after 'Book of Souls' Nightwish - Once was the last album I enjoyed. Wasn't into any of the new singers. Tarja was the best U2 Hammerfall - For me 'Legacy of Kings' is the only album I love Paradise Lost - I was amazed by Obsidian, but I can't see where they can go from here Guns 'N' Roses Deep Purple Venom Pink Floyd Pearl Jam Def Leppard - I really enjoyed 'Adrenalize', but they haven't put out anything good to great since then Darkthrone Satyricon - The first three albums are truly phenomenal, but anything afterward was a major letdown Therapy - Nurse and Troublegum are the only albums that are amazing Kiss Anathema - 'Judgement' was the last amazing album Manic Street Preachers On the plus side, some old/new rock/metal bands have put out some stunning albums/EPs. Billy Idol Immortal Watain Tribulation Mystic Circle Omnium Gatherium Draconian Opened Paradise NFD The Foreshadowing
@djacobmadrigal
4 ай бұрын
Thanks for such a well developed and thought out reply. 😊
Did you like end game megadeath?
@djacobmadrigal
4 ай бұрын
Oh yes. Very much. \,,/
Many bands / artists are way beyond their sell by date but as long as people want to pay exorbitant prices to attend their concerts and / or lap up the box sets then i believe they will keep going. One of my favourite bands is Caravan who issued a 37 c.d. box set which, for me, would be more of a chore to listen to. Other issues are the inclusion of demos, mono versions, live recordings, snippets of songs etc. However there is a market so at least for those people interested this is good news for them. As for Deep Purple i firmly believe that Purpendicular is the band's most 'musical' album and they feel more of a cohesive unit without Blackmore. Not a big fan of Saxon but their popularity is on the rise after years in the wilderness and kudos to them for believing in their music confirmed by their latest album making No.19 here in the U.K charts. As for new bands music is like a canvas and i think in terms of originality and excitement the canvas is becoming full i.e. there is less and less room for innovation within the rock 'n' roll genre. Also the landscape has changed and record companies want a return on their 'product' immediately and are less inclined to invest in a longer term future for bands. Anyway just a subjective opinion of course. BTW David Coverdale has retired... at least for the moment!
@djacobmadrigal
4 ай бұрын
Yes but Coverdale said Whitesnake would continue.
@Baz63
4 ай бұрын
@@djacobmadrigal it was his band and creation so it is unlikely to get off the ground in any meaningful way...if at all.
I like deep purple with Morse, Saxon, new Uriah Heep and the last two album of Megadeth but I greed those band soon they have to retire. This a band called Satan from NWOBM which it's still playing and sound awesome (in my opinion) its new albums and recently it was voted on internet ones of the best metal band from 80's NWOBM together with Saxon and Iron Maiden. Satan is considered pioneers of proto speed and proto thrash metal
Have you heard new Bon Jovi? It stinks.
@djacobmadrigal
4 ай бұрын
No I lost interest a long long long time ago.
any bands where the guys are over 50
@charlesdrake3125
4 ай бұрын
Tool, Queens of the Stone Age, Nick Cave are over 50 and are still killing it. David Bowie's Black Star was a great epitaph and Peter Gabriel is 73 and released a very impressive album just last year, so there are a few exceptions imo
What a fantastic video have a wonderful day ❤❤❤❤❤❤😊😊😊😊😊😊
I just saw your "rant"video but the comments are disabled. When you have an opinion and share it online, people agree or disagree. So when you say someone should retire and they disagree they like to tell you. And yes invisible behind a keyboard makes them "speak"more harsh. I mean one man's favorite album is another man's worst album, that band put out. That won't ever change, just keep doing what you do. And when people discus nicely, like a handful under here, that's where the fun is. Right? I disagree about Bruce and the E street band should retire, I would like him to records a great album again, like Magic from 2007. But his shows are still great. It's like, I grew up ,and old, with that band.
@djacobmadrigal
4 ай бұрын
My rant isn’t about disagreeing, it’s about doing it in an ugly or trolling manner. In addition some of the people said the ugly things they said only bc they chose to hear what they wanted to hear bc of selective hearing. People speak harsh as u say it bc they take an opposing view in taste as a personal affront which is just shortsighted on their part. It’s not personal ever it’s just how I feel so there is no need ever to be harsh.
GREAT VIDEO IAM SOLD REMEMBER THIS PHILOSOPHY THAT I HEARD SOME 30 YEARS AGO AS LONG AS YOU LIVE IN THE PAST THERE WILL NEVER BE A FUTURE BECAUSE FRANKLY ROCK MUSIC IS BEEN DEAD FOR MORE THAN 30 YEARS NOW AND THAT SHOULD TELL YOU HOW FAR THE MUSIC LANDSCAPE IS CHANGING THEIR ARE MANY OTHER GENRES THAT ARE TRENDING IN THE MUSIC BUSINESS TODAY SO I AGREE WITH YOU THESE BANDS THAT YOU MENTIONED ARE ALL INTENSES OF PURPOSES ARE ALL OVER THE HILL AS I SAID GREAT VIDEO AND I 100 PERCENT AGREE IAM A LIFE LONG ROCKER BUT TODAY'S MUSIC IS NOT WHAT IS USED TO BE BUT YOU HAVE THE MEMORIES AND THAT IS WHAT KEEPS THE LEGACY ALIVE LONG LIVE ROCK & ROLL 1950 1996 A REFERENCE FROM MR RICK BEATO THE YEAR OF THE ROCK & ROLL DEMISE IS FROM HIS VIDEO IT IS ON YOU TUBE 😂
Shit if there's anyone that should have retired from the beginning is kiss. I can't believe kiss got more love than UFO UFO much better songs better songwriters better musicians
@djacobmadrigal
4 ай бұрын
I discovered KISS when I was 9 and UFO when I turned 18. UFO is in my favorite top ten bands of all time, KISS is not. Kiss without the makeup would not have been as successful. Gimmicks sell: KISS, Slipknot, etc.
@jacintofragoso1211
4 ай бұрын
@@djacobmadrigal I found out about UFO and eighth grade we had to bring in albums I brought in the monkeys
I forgot what song it was but it was live and one of Paul McCartney's hits and his voice sounded awful.
@djacobmadrigal
4 ай бұрын
Yeah I don’t know. Good question
@onlysleeping8934
4 ай бұрын
McCartney can't sing any more. Saw him at MetLife Stadium in June 2022. His voice was HORRIBLE. And that was 2 years ago. If people wanna pay $$$ to go see him that's their problem. I'm done with him!
Certainly but many an artist and celebrities in general live beyond their means. I’m more sympathetic with British bands from the 70’s where their taxes were unreasonable. But by now acts like the Stones and The Who should have enough money to live quite comfortably. Either way art should be about art first and foremost. Yes it’s hard to make stellar albums over and over again which is why if the art suffers then if you still need money then find a new calling like Chris DeGarmo leaving Queensryche to be a pilot. I’m old fashioned I guess I’m a big believer in art with integrity or no art at all.
Kansas sounds amazing right now!
@djacobmadrigal
4 ай бұрын
I wish I felt the same way. Thanks for sharing your opinion!😊
1) Thank God Elton John retired (keep your fingers crossed). Waaay past due. 2) Styx was ONLY Dennis DeYoung. Without him, there was no Styx. But his voice held up incredibly well for a long time after he and the rest of Styx parted ways. I don't know if that's still the case today or what he's up to now. 3) I don't know if James Taylor has packed it in (I just don't care any more). I WAS probably his greatest fan at one time. But he's hung around for about 30 years too long. His voice has been shot for YEARS. 4) Worst BY FAR: McCartney. His massive ego just won't let him quit writing and recording that inane crap. Voice: shot. Writing ability: completely shot. Very sad to see this one-time brilliant talent sully his career this way. 5) The Who: have you heard Daltry try to reach the notes on Baba? He's finally just going to sing it monotone in the one note he can hit. Again, HUGE fan at one time. I used to have SO much fun playing along on the drums to The Kids are Alright. 6) Cat Stevens: How could his voice get any worse...THAN IT ALREADY WAS?! And that's the ironic beauty of it - I've always LOVED his gruff voice. So when I heard him render The Wind solo at his house during the pandemic, my eyes welled up with nostalgia. 7) Jackson Browne: STILL totally LEGIT!! Hasn't missed a beat. Voice is still completely there. 8) Paul Simon: Why, oh why. Should've retired LONG before his voice completely petered out. ...And the list goes on. I think it's more about ego than money in a lot of cases. Imagine being on top of the world one moment, and then having to face the fact that you just don't have it anymore. These people with their big egos are just loathe to let go of that notoriety and fame - so it lets go of them, with sad results.
@djacobmadrigal
4 ай бұрын
I appreciate the time u took to write such a lengthy response. I agree with u about Styx and poor Dennis being fired and all. He was not perfect but was the founding member. Jackson Browne still has it! Amazing talent.
Paul Simon.
Zz Top
The g and r comment I think it is a little unfair.
@djacobmadrigal
4 ай бұрын
Just my opinion.
Without watching the video first I have 2 I want to put on the list, if they're not already there. 1. The Rolling Stones. They haven't released a good album in over 40 years. 2. AC/DC. Ditto. It's been 40 years for them as well. Time to fade away.
@djacobmadrigal
4 ай бұрын
I mentioned the Stones.
Sadly, the new Judas Priest only has two or three good songs - the rest are well produced but dont sound like great Judas Priest songs to me. That new songwriter guitarist is a very talented guitar player, but his songwriting is lame and his guitar solos aren't that special
@djacobmadrigal
4 ай бұрын
Andy Sneap I believe who tours in Tipton’s stead.
@PROGROCK-tr9hw
4 ай бұрын
The first time , I heard a negative review of the new album.
When the Stones hang it up Keith and Willie Nelson are going to hit the road 😂😂😂😂
@djacobmadrigal
4 ай бұрын
😂😂😂