Chen Long - Badminton's most UNDERRATED champion

Chen Long is one of badmintons most successful men’s singles players.
He won 27 individual titles, was world number 1 for 71 consecutive weeks, won 2 world championships, won 3 Thomas Cup (men’s team world championships) and 5 Sudirman Cup (mixed team world championships) titles, and he medalled at 3 consecutive Olympics, winning Gold in Rio in 2016!
On top of this he changed the way men’s singles was played when he was at his peak!
So with all of this in mind, why is so often overlooked?
Why is Chen Long underrated?
That’s the question I answer in this video.
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  • @bounce1603
    @bounce160310 ай бұрын

    Chen Long is indeed a legend. He is shadowed by Lindan. He won many tournaments,but everything that he did was not enough. He deserves a spot among the kings of badminton.

  • @chester0608ye

    @chester0608ye

    10 ай бұрын

    He has better achievements than LCW as world championship, but people always talk about how LCW loses Lin Dan again.

  • @vitorlam9046

    @vitorlam9046

    10 ай бұрын

    @@chester0608ye during 2011-2012 , CL LCW h2h almost equal .... and that was young CL against prime LCW before 2013 all england final , CL:LCW h2h 5:7

  • @chester0608ye

    @chester0608ye

    10 ай бұрын

    @@vitorlam9046 LCW please win a world championship

  • @heyzosim7771

    @heyzosim7771

    10 ай бұрын

    ​@@chester0608yewrong era bro

  • @louong93

    @louong93

    10 ай бұрын

    ​@@chester0608yehe is nothing compared to Lcw. Olympic and world championship is just another title. Many Chinese players have won it so there is no pressure. If you look at the big picture , not even Lin Dan close to Lcw achievements. Lcw won the most super series. Super series at that time is considered the high price badminton tournament. I am not saying Chen long is a bad player but Lcw is on another Level. Many people might dislike his game play. But in badminton your main focus is just to win.

  • @DKChyna
    @DKChyna10 ай бұрын

    I think the main reason is that Chen Long is JUST a badminton player. He always follow the rules, always smiles, and is always very kind. He doesn't show that much emotion. Lin Dan on the other hand is the exact oppposite. Yes, he's a badminton player, but he was a rebel in the sport. He wasn't afraid to show when he was angry or upset about something. He's a trendsetter. They are both great, Chen Long is just more introverted. Lionel Messi is also like that, but he has the playing style of Lin Dan.

  • @aniketverma5191
    @aniketverma519110 ай бұрын

    Chen Long is among the greatest in badminton without a doubt and a athelete I will forever admire for his humbleness and for what a gentlemen he is

  • @BenBeckmanBadminton

    @BenBeckmanBadminton

    10 ай бұрын

    For sure 😊🙌🏻

  • @RaffMo12

    @RaffMo12

    10 ай бұрын

    Indeed

  • @soyanchd5439
    @soyanchd543910 ай бұрын

    His nickname was “The Wall” for a reason. He’s simply was a bit overshadowed by LCW and LD success. But when you look at the numbers, it’s a whole different story. He has a 10/9 record against Lin Dan, a 13/15 record against LCW, a 14-6 record against Axelsen, a 3/3 record against Bao Chunlai and a 3-4 record against the monster Chen Jin… He may be underrated in people’s mind, but facts are that he one of the best ever.

  • @SimonDeKater

    @SimonDeKater

    10 ай бұрын

    How many of those wins were after the prime of those top players (LD / LCW)? CL played against them way past their prime (he's 5-6 years younger), so your stats are skewed. You should lay it out in a year by year basis to make any kind of notable or admissable point.

  • @nathanyein9968

    @nathanyein9968

    10 ай бұрын

    @@SimonDeKater thats not a fair point either considering lin dan and LCW(even more so) much into their later years were still completely outclassing current generation players.

  • @aaronng5061

    @aaronng5061

    10 ай бұрын

    ​@@SimonDeKaterdanggg crazy how you asked for evidence yet you didn't provide any yourself 🤔😂

  • @ucchau173

    @ucchau173

    10 ай бұрын

    No he head to head with lindan is 4-13(lindan win 13 match 😂😂😂)🤣😆😆

  • @greybo4034

    @greybo4034

    10 ай бұрын

    ​@@SimonDeKaterlcw was world no.2 when he retired he beat prime momota in his 2nd last tournament

  • @alexanderzhang1513
    @alexanderzhang151310 ай бұрын

    Honestly I love chen long's playstyle. Solid defence. The Great Wall Of China. Extremely consistent, and his precision. As a tall Chinese kid, he's my favourite player.

  • @BenBeckmanBadminton

    @BenBeckmanBadminton

    10 ай бұрын

    I loved it too. Over the years I grew a real appreciation for him. Had the privilege of playing him and although I got beaten badly it was still awesome

  • @combatfanatics1058
    @combatfanatics105810 ай бұрын

    Man he could've been so much better, the Chen Long who beat LCW at the 2014 world champs was so unbelievably powerful, explosive, and aggressive. However later on it looked like he lost motivation and didn't push himself as hard. Felt like he could've won twice as many tournaments!

  • @sangitianarandriampenomana3948
    @sangitianarandriampenomana394810 ай бұрын

    Chen Long was always a top tier player and as a badminton player myself, I found his playing style more suitable for people who want to play a consistent game. Too bad in the eyes of the normal public, he's such a textbook player. Btw, this channel is also underrated, I'm so glad I discovered it!!

  • @muoian
    @muoian4 ай бұрын

    I’m watching the epic ginting and long matches for the first time and they are truly thrilling

  • @BenBeckmanBadminton

    @BenBeckmanBadminton

    4 ай бұрын

    They had some battles for sure

  • @evokaiyo
    @evokaiyo10 ай бұрын

    When was Chen Long underrated? He is the Great Wall of China. He's always been right up there with the greats and it was hard to predict who would win vs Lin Dan and LCW. Before he started to get old, he was always keeping Axelsen in check

  • @AgentJ2007

    @AgentJ2007

    4 ай бұрын

    He was by the casual fans. The casual fans only rate LD and LCW as legends. The truth is that Chen Long was a great/ legendary player is his own right. He beat LCW in 3 straight major finals - 2014 and 2015 WC and 2016 Olympic.

  • @muhasin9210
    @muhasin921010 ай бұрын

    Exceptional Work Ben. Super excited to know that you will be making more of such content 😁. All though Chen Long Didn't have a flamboyant style compared to his contemporaries. Once people start watching Badminton with a sense of what's going on a match, they tend to appreciate and enjoy tactically astute players with good strategic awareness and Tactical execution. This side of Chen Long was Phenomenonal. A master in neutralising the opponent's attacks and pouncing on opportunities. Chen Long was so precise across different playing conditions, Had a supremely solid basic game and brick like defence, Combined with his physicalty (Hardly ever looked tired) made him such a tough opponent to play against. To gather so many accolades during the same era as of Lin Dan 🇨🇳 Chong Wei 🇲🇾 is quite astonishing. Chen Long was definitely the same league. This is indeed a great tribute to him and much needed one

  • @BenBeckmanBadminton

    @BenBeckmanBadminton

    10 ай бұрын

    Thank you dude! I'll certainly try my best to make more and more videos like this 😊🙌🏻

  • @BenBeckmanBadminton

    @BenBeckmanBadminton

    10 ай бұрын

    And I loved your thoughts on Chen Long’s style and accolades.

  • @KaleshKSekhar
    @KaleshKSekhar2 ай бұрын

    Cheng long one of the best badminton player in history of badminton...... He has better career then LCW winning big tournament..... Miss him The wall of china❣️❣️

  • @BenBeckmanBadminton

    @BenBeckmanBadminton

    2 ай бұрын

    He really is one of the best ever. Nice guy too 🙌🏻😊

  • @Sks8maxident
    @Sks8maxident10 ай бұрын

    He doesn't have the same speed, power or flamboyant playing style that is 'exciting' to watch as other players. But he is the most consistent, fittest and calmest player I have ever seen. As a result, his defensive play is so good and that is how I think he remained in the top for so long. He doesn't need a strong attack, he just needs to wear you out long enough to create opportunities and score at pivotal moments with accurate and precise shots and that's why I think he is a great player

  • @yangg40
    @yangg4010 ай бұрын

    Brilliantly made video with great storytelling and editing. Good to see this video as I have always loved watching Chen Long’s games and it’s great to see him get some credit

  • @charlesrd1404
    @charlesrd140410 ай бұрын

    Very good content! Didn't see this coming, knowing that there are a lot of personalities in this sport and this is how Chen Long could be appreciated greatly.

  • @ndkhoa2812
    @ndkhoa281210 ай бұрын

    The only thing that may make him looks "underrated" is that he's the poster boy for Lining instead of Yonex. And we all know how good Yonex is at glorifying their affiliated players through various marketing campaigns and international events. Another thing is his character. Chen Long is often seen as being "humble", "calm", "great defense" which are less preferrable in term of marketability. Mean while LD, LCW, Taufik are either related to "attacking", "fast", "aggressive" or even "arrogant", which are more attractive to the mass and media.

  • @ucang1560

    @ucang1560

    10 ай бұрын

    Simple reason is he doesn't use Yonex racket.

  • @Thinker-gd8ck

    @Thinker-gd8ck

    10 ай бұрын

    Agreed

  • @nathanielng1621
    @nathanielng162110 ай бұрын

    Chen Long was the guy basically between the era of LD & LCW and Momota, Axelsen & Shi Yuqi

  • @BestofBadminton
    @BestofBadminton10 ай бұрын

    Silver medal in 2022 was completely unexpected. Unreal performance to step up and make it to finals at that age

  • @cobra12353

    @cobra12353

    10 ай бұрын

    32 is a prime age

  • @linkdiablo4476

    @linkdiablo4476

    10 ай бұрын

    ​@@cobra12353for single player above 30 is pass prime. Single is different from double.

  • @eddyededwin

    @eddyededwin

    10 ай бұрын

    Dude medaled in 3 Olympics just like ld and lcw. Tht in itself is amazijf

  • @josuecamargo
    @josuecamargo10 ай бұрын

    Great video! I admire Chen Long a lot and I just LOVE his play style!

  • @sarth7649
    @sarth764910 ай бұрын

    Like you said towards the end.. Chen long’s rise came at the tail end of Lin Dan’s dominance. And during this time, it was almost expected as a formality from any Chinese badminton player to win these titles. Which also meant, more neutral fans were looking towards players from other nations to support and Chen’s reserved personality certainly didn’t help him gain any popularity! My other theory is (I am possibly incorrect) that during Chen Long’s reign of dominance, it was actually the Women’s Singles discipline that was more exciting and popular with many new faces from many different nations fighting for the top spot! Only a handful of MS players from that time turned any heads.

  • @BenBeckmanBadminton

    @BenBeckmanBadminton

    10 ай бұрын

    That's an interesting take with the WS. Very interesting 😊🙌🏻

  • @gokulkrishna1319

    @gokulkrishna1319

    10 ай бұрын

    @@BenBeckmanBadminton you can create a video about how china's dominance discontinued and how new era of ws came and their achievements. I hope it will attract a lot of viewers

  • @BenBeckmanBadminton

    @BenBeckmanBadminton

    10 ай бұрын

    @gokulkrishna1319 That's a topic I've been thinking about. I have so many ideas and stories, so bare with me to tell them all

  • @gokulkrishna1319

    @gokulkrishna1319

    10 ай бұрын

    @@BenBeckmanBadminton Thats interesting ben. We are here for u to watch everything u post so just take your own time and rock it man . Hope it will reach as many as possible and it helps grow you as well as the sport .

  • @BenBeckmanBadminton

    @BenBeckmanBadminton

    10 ай бұрын

    @@gokulkrishna1319 thank you! I'll do my best

  • @rohitsinghyxrs
    @rohitsinghyxrs10 ай бұрын

    It's the humbleness of chen long that should be at the top spot along with his athleticism. He's the most humble player i've ever seen in any sport. Always smiling, laughing and most important he always used to respect his opponent. Today's gen players really need to learn all those from chen long.

  • @char7423
    @char742310 ай бұрын

    Superb video. For me Chen Long is always the greatest. And you're correct, I started appreciating and learning his playstyles long after he is retired

  • @qzy97
    @qzy974 күн бұрын

    Thanks for the video! Not sure if anyone else has mentioned in their comments, but another reason Chen Long's reputation among Chinese fans doesn't match his achievements is his team tournament performance. His high-profile losses to players like Kenichi Tago, Son Won Ho, and Momota cost China multiple team trophies, and many fans believe that he was the first to blame in those tournaments. Adding on to this fact is his defensive playing style, which doesn't quite line up with how most people believe team tournaments ought to be played. Still, great video! Very refreshing to see a European pov on non-LD Chinese legends

  • @BenBeckmanBadminton

    @BenBeckmanBadminton

    4 күн бұрын

    That's a really good point, I didn't think of that but makes perfect sense. He did drop the ball a few times in those team competitions.

  • @BlazingiZZi
    @BlazingiZZi10 ай бұрын

    Wowow, great video! It's rare seeing in depth analysis on badminton players like this, i enjoyed it very much!

  • @BenBeckmanBadminton

    @BenBeckmanBadminton

    10 ай бұрын

    that's the goal here, creating in depth stories on badminton from crazy matches, achievements, legends, and just anything I find interesting! More to come

  • @kajoylim7866
    @kajoylim786610 ай бұрын

    Thank you, Ben, for this video - complete with the history of the Legends' Vision. It is indeed a perfect tribute to the legend that Chen Long is

  • @BenBeckmanBadminton

    @BenBeckmanBadminton

    10 ай бұрын

    You're very welcome

  • @chaviviolin7612
    @chaviviolin76129 ай бұрын

    No doubt he is alegend

  • @dianliu2109
    @dianliu210910 ай бұрын

    I like it so much the way you represented the data, very clear and efficient, well done!

  • @V_for_Vendetta_
    @V_for_Vendetta_10 ай бұрын

    Triple Olympic Medal, 2 time World Champ I don't care how people underestimate him He is my Idol. :)

  • @kingghidorah5271
    @kingghidorah527110 ай бұрын

    This is probably the best badminton commentary video I've seen from such a small creator. The editing and quality of it is really highlighted clearly. Overall was very interesting and underrated. Keep up the good work man 👍🏻

  • @BenBeckmanBadminton

    @BenBeckmanBadminton

    10 ай бұрын

    Thank you, I really appreciate the kind words. I'll try to keep improving and getting better with each video

  • @vijayant_rai
    @vijayant_rai10 ай бұрын

    Great video. Really insightful!

  • @21Points
    @21Points10 ай бұрын

    Need more content like this. Thank you Ben.

  • @BenBeckmanBadminton

    @BenBeckmanBadminton

    10 ай бұрын

    More to come 🙌🏻

  • @happylife3428
    @happylife342810 ай бұрын

    Zhang Nan also one of the most underrated player in Badminton

  • @akshayrana409
    @akshayrana40910 ай бұрын

    Really Nice Video, Ben!!! Excellent. Very infomative

  • @BenBeckmanBadminton

    @BenBeckmanBadminton

    10 ай бұрын

    Thank you

  • @bhupalrai6928
    @bhupalrai692810 ай бұрын

    Happy retirement & Wishing you a happy long life Chen Long... You were a great player and you are still a great source of inspiration to youngsters 🎉❤❤❤

  • @ervinhii9238
    @ervinhii923810 ай бұрын

    Great video. We need more videos like this

  • @kushirou9869
    @kushirou986910 ай бұрын

    What a great video, I totally agree with everything you say, this guys was just insane and I strongly believe he is at least top 5 badminton players in history

  • @maisonandco
    @maisonandco10 ай бұрын

    Really underrated. At his best, i pick him over LCW all day. He might not have much flair compared to LCW or LD, but at his best, he's literally inpenetratable.

  • @heryoneheryone3664

    @heryoneheryone3664

    10 ай бұрын

    No gold medal in Olympic? Asian Games? Sea Games?

  • @Derez47
    @Derez4710 ай бұрын

    Great Editing Ben!!! Badminton needs the kind of your video to expand our community.

  • @BenBeckmanBadminton

    @BenBeckmanBadminton

    10 ай бұрын

    Couldn't agree more. Thanks 😊

  • @kefikoblueberry7704
    @kefikoblueberry770410 ай бұрын

    Thank you for making this kind of video. I love deep dives into topics about badminton. Especially from you since you are able to use your extensive experience in this sport. Love the video and cannot wait for many more. Been following you since you appeared at swift badminton :).

  • @BenBeckmanBadminton

    @BenBeckmanBadminton

    10 ай бұрын

    Thank you. Plenty more to come 🙂

  • @archith9394
    @archith939424 күн бұрын

    True, as a badminton player i liked a lot of the players and obviously lee chong wei and chen long were my fav, but i never had a person who i wanted to follow and play like until recently when i saw one of chen longs matches after a long time and was like why didnt i ever like this guy, coz chen long was just amazing.

  • @user-zq7nn3wu3f
    @user-zq7nn3wu3f10 ай бұрын

    In fact of his honour in his career. He definitely is the world second greatest player in history badminton men single until now.

  • @adityamane6325
    @adityamane632510 ай бұрын

    Great work ❤

  • @user-rk3ub8ql5d
    @user-rk3ub8ql5d10 ай бұрын

    I think chen long is a really good guy,humble and a family man.. he's not for popularity.. he's living his life with his beautiful wife n son.. i think he's living great without the needs for attention .. and he really wanted it that way . Bcos his records r above the other 3 kings

  • @bharatvarsha7
    @bharatvarsha710 ай бұрын

    Due to Lin Dan prowess, Chen Long was overshadowed, but if you look at his achievments, he's among the best player ever..two times world champion, an olympic gold medal, two times All England badminton champion, 71 consecutive week at no.1..he's unlucky to be playing at a time when Lin Dan was still active and everything was about Lin dan till he retired...he's underrated when fact is he's among the greats

  • @minhng9467
    @minhng946710 ай бұрын

    w8, did u delete all of your videos ? Why ?. I find ur vids really interesing and informative

  • @BenBeckmanBadminton

    @BenBeckmanBadminton

    10 ай бұрын

    Don't worry I'll be redoing most of them...with better editing and more info. Bigger and better stuff to come

  • @kkhchannel4813
    @kkhchannel481310 ай бұрын

    Very well said about Chen Long being underrated. Another example of his almost overlooked achievement is his silver at Tokyo. Sure, it was Victor's moment, but Chen Long has played some highest quality shots when other top players can bearly keep the shuttle in due to the wind condition. Not to mention he also played with blisters on his foot in the final. Maybe you could do a tournament deep dive series later?

  • @sandstonegrace
    @sandstonegrace10 ай бұрын

    There are very few channels like your. You have earned my subscription. Full support ❤

  • @BenBeckmanBadminton

    @BenBeckmanBadminton

    10 ай бұрын

    😊

  • @Flanker-L
    @Flanker-L10 ай бұрын

    Very good analysis

  • @motomanvlog
    @motomanvlog10 ай бұрын

    great video mate

  • @BenBeckmanBadminton

    @BenBeckmanBadminton

    10 ай бұрын

    Thank you

  • @lauralee1961
    @lauralee196110 ай бұрын

    Surprised by the duration of this video because it is not as usual, and even more surprised that the old video is no longer there. What is it? is there any change? i like this new video, very clear and solid explanation. Thanks ben for this video. can't wait for another video .

  • @BenBeckmanBadminton

    @BenBeckmanBadminton

    10 ай бұрын

    I'm glad you liked the video and that you are excited for another (which will be with you in the next few days...trust me it is a beast). The only thing that has changed is that I wanted to make the kind of videos I do for BWF but on YT scale. So bigger, longer and in much more depth. I'll do my best to keep a regular schedule but these videos take time. Thanks again

  • @WahPiangEh123
    @WahPiangEh12310 ай бұрын

    Hey. Love these videos! Do keep ‘‘em coming and thank you !

  • @BenBeckmanBadminton

    @BenBeckmanBadminton

    10 ай бұрын

    Thank you! Will do!

  • @shuotong-fl2vu
    @shuotong-fl2vu2 ай бұрын

    I love your video, its amazing, I hope to watch more videos like this

  • @BenBeckmanBadminton

    @BenBeckmanBadminton

    2 ай бұрын

    Thank you so much. Plenty more to come

  • @soyanchd5439
    @soyanchd543910 ай бұрын

    On a sidenote, I really liked the video, great production and great story telling. Made me emotional as a he was one of my favorite player growing up. It would be cool if you continue the series! BWF to make the

  • @BenBeckmanBadminton

    @BenBeckmanBadminton

    10 ай бұрын

    😊🙌🏻

  • @LouiseAndersen1991
    @LouiseAndersen199110 ай бұрын

    This was such an interesting question to ask, because the you are right. Chen Long is extremely underrated. But as a dane, I will never forget the two time he stood across from Viktor Axelsen at the Olympics. The first time they met, Chen Long was at the peak of his career. The second time, it was Viktor. I think more of these videos would be awesome to watch. Where you dive into the careers of different former badminton players.

  • @warkos3591
    @warkos359110 ай бұрын

    Great video, I agree with everything, CL deserve his spot amongst the tops.

  • @septea7032
    @septea703210 ай бұрын

    He is "The Wall of Badminton"

  • @EddyTritten
    @EddyTritten10 ай бұрын

    On top of everything, Chen is the goat for being chill and respectful on court.

  • @sidharthchandla7966
    @sidharthchandla796610 ай бұрын

    Excellent narration.

  • @raygan777able
    @raygan777able10 ай бұрын

    Chen Long is one of the legend without a doubt.

  • @hang1964
    @hang196410 ай бұрын

    Very tasteful choices for the bgm used in this video.

  • @jasonxiao2456
    @jasonxiao245610 ай бұрын

    Ben, so glad to find your KZread channel. Chen Long is a legend for sure. He is humble and has great sportsmanship. He has achieved more than Lee Chong Wei. He would have been a super star if he is not Chinese or in same time period with Lin Dan or Chong Wei.

  • @BenBeckmanBadminton

    @BenBeckmanBadminton

    10 ай бұрын

    I'm super happy to hear that mate. Chen Long really was an amazing athlete both on and off the court

  • @salahuddinazam2167
    @salahuddinazam216710 ай бұрын

    Perfect analysis. He indeed is the greatest badminton player of all time. If somebody can be converted into the textbook of the game, he is that. Though he would never agree to that. "Too Humble"

  • @pham1020
    @pham102010 ай бұрын

    I wish that CL could have play for a little longer. I think he would still be one of the best players in the world if he stayed active. He made it to the 2020 Olympics Final with a blister injury.

  • @loicdomindard2277
    @loicdomindard227710 ай бұрын

    Great job ! Hope they will be more good contents like this ! Thanks from France 🇫🇷 ! (A video on Brice Leverdez retirement ? ^^ :p )

  • @BenBeckmanBadminton

    @BenBeckmanBadminton

    10 ай бұрын

    Plenty more to come. Maybe I will...he had an undoubtable influence over the current French MS situation

  • @filipvanous1933
    @filipvanous193310 ай бұрын

    Well narrated

  • @gooddayson
    @gooddayson10 ай бұрын

    Great Video! ! ! Boonsak Ponsana next ?

  • @lilshuttler
    @lilshuttler10 ай бұрын

    If u make these type and quality of videos regularly atleast once a month ...then i am definitely going to subscribe .🙂

  • @BenBeckmanBadminton

    @BenBeckmanBadminton

    10 ай бұрын

    U better get ready to subscribe then. At least 1 a month for sure

  • @calvinbernard
    @calvinbernard10 ай бұрын

    Yes in my opinion he just made the game more exciting to watch due to the competitiveness on that era. During the peak of men's singles it was going to be either him, Chong Wei or Lin Dan for the title. Nowadays, with the retirement of these 3 legends, it feels like the game is trying to find back the glory that it once had. Sure, there are many young talents such as Chisto Popov, Kunlavut, Kodai and comebacks such as Prannoy and CTC to challenge Axelsen's reign. But are they consistent and good enough to provide the rivalry over next 2 decades. Only time will tell.

  • @maguro-_-otoro
    @maguro-_-otoro10 ай бұрын

    Great work ethic, Won every major title, World Championship, Olympics, Sudirman, Thomas Cup, But Lin Dan was simply more marketable for sponsors in all major markets. Even LCW was more marketable despite not winning anything major. Chen Long was just a victim to marketing. Wouldn't make sense for the media to pit a Chinese player against another Chinese player as greatest rival.

  • @KeithHiew
    @KeithHiew10 ай бұрын

    Thank you for this video, Ben. Excellent work. I currently rank Viktor as second on the GOAT list alongside Chen Long. If Viktor wins another world title and/or Olympic gold then he would go ahead of CL. However, of course, CL had to compete with Lin Dan and Lee Chong Wei for much of his career.

  • @BenBeckmanBadminton

    @BenBeckmanBadminton

    10 ай бұрын

    My pleasure. Glad u liked it. Yeah I would agree in terms of results and other things Viktor really should be up there

  • @alphaomega9387
    @alphaomega938710 ай бұрын

    i totally agree, in my book he deserve to be one of the legends especially if viktor axelsen would ever be known as a champion in the near future then so should chen long as he has similar achievements with viktor

  • @michaelp9061
    @michaelp906110 ай бұрын

    He s one of the very best. Still remember his gold medal performance against Li

  • @dhrub6
    @dhrub610 ай бұрын

    Chen Long's only "mistake" was being born in the same time period as Lin Dan. People will realize his worth in years to come.

  • @RaffMo12
    @RaffMo1210 ай бұрын

    Chen 'Dragon' Long is the second most successful badminton players after the great Lin Dan in modern era

  • @spartanbagel8640
    @spartanbagel864010 ай бұрын

    Of course the olympics is impressive but I think you forgot his most prestigous achievement beating the very Ben Beckman. :) This video is really something by the way, it reminds me of big channels like Sipover who does Minecraft documentaries, I know I know Im comparing our great sport of badminton to Minecraft but those videos have millions of views. Keep up the good work this is definitely the best documentary on badminton, this is like something I'll find on BBC Player. I appreciate the time and effort to make these videos It must take a very long time. I also owe you as I am guilty of overlooking Chen Long and will definitely go watch Chen Jin in the future as I only have heard his name a few times. Keep up the good work.

  • @HAHA4625
    @HAHA462510 ай бұрын

    Chen Long was very quiet and reserved, never really making any public news stories and having any public appearances. Also, he's kinda like the Andy Murray of badminton, born into the same era as all time greats.

  • @eddyededwin

    @eddyededwin

    10 ай бұрын

    Nah, he isn't like Murray at all, if Lin Dan didn't exist he'd literally be in the goat convo

  • @brunomiguel6462
    @brunomiguel646210 ай бұрын

    I'm putting him on number 2 above lcw on badminton greats

  • @urutproshahalam5xlebihberk258

    @urutproshahalam5xlebihberk258

    Ай бұрын

    LCW better than CL, CL better than LD, they all same level legend, China tactics to use either one player to fight with LCW, make their rival tired, so that LCW not enough time to recover at the final stage, but when CL n LD meet each other the instruct one of the player to withdraw or defeat.

  • @crapsterslive
    @crapsterslive10 ай бұрын

    Everybody loves CL. Such a humble champion.

  • @villsonthong1654
    @villsonthong165410 ай бұрын

    He is most powerful counterattack player in the world. Although he play defensively, but the lifting perfectly into end backcourt is the most powerful weapon against the top notch players, even lcw also lost to him few times

  • @BenBeckmanBadminton

    @BenBeckmanBadminton

    10 ай бұрын

    His accuracy and consistency were simply ridiculous

  • @aniketverma5191

    @aniketverma5191

    10 ай бұрын

    Not few times it was many times including two world champ finals and Olympic finals

  • @vitorlam9046

    @vitorlam9046

    10 ай бұрын

    during 2011-2012 , CL LCW h2h almost equal .... and that was young CL against prime LCW before 2013 all england final , CL:LCW h2h 5:7

  • @eddyededwin

    @eddyededwin

    10 ай бұрын

    Especially his flat exchanges , when he beat lcw in wc and Olympics that was his secret weapon, pushing at lcws shoulder area

  • @user-vm3wh8jd4b
    @user-vm3wh8jd4b10 ай бұрын

    He is my favourite player

  • @thetechiedoc
    @thetechiedoc10 ай бұрын

    Chen long ❤❤

  • @buddinsaribbi2696
    @buddinsaribbi269610 ай бұрын

    Indeed hes is legend. Top5 best men single ever. He is there with LD n lcw

  • @reinartes7079
    @reinartes707910 ай бұрын

    Excellent video about Chen Long. It echoes what I thought about him as well. An overlooked legend. If there is one thing that I might add, him being overlooked may also had to do with him not playing as long as both Lin Dan and Lee Chong Wei. I think part of the reasons why those two are so memorable is because they were active for a really long time, far longer than most top players. Chen Long retired much earlier than them. If he had stayed playing for another Olympics cycle after Tokyo, he might have achieved more and thus leaving more legacy, especially when there weren't Lin Dan and Lee Chong Wei to steal his spotlight.

  • @BenBeckmanBadminton

    @BenBeckmanBadminton

    10 ай бұрын

    That is a fair point although Chen Long was in and around the top 3 in the world for over a decade

  • @reinartes7079

    @reinartes7079

    10 ай бұрын

    @@BenBeckmanBadminton Yes, but that is yet another comparison that he lost to Lin Dan, as Lin Dan has been around even longer than him. Since he is 6 years younger than Lin Dan, he should have lasted far longer than Lin Dan, but he retired only 2 years after Lin Dan retired. I always get the feeling that he retired earlier than he should, as with many other Chinese players than are not Lin Dan.

  • @qwertyutopia4667

    @qwertyutopia4667

    10 ай бұрын

    @@reinartes7079I mean he married Wang shuxian and they have kids now so it makes sense he retired. He had kids relatively early compared to many professional athletes so that may be a reason. We have to remember that badminton is not like football or basketball, where there is an offseason. There really isn’t any off-season in the year.

  • @jayceh
    @jayceh3 ай бұрын

    If the Olympics didn't get delayed for a year, or if he didn't have golf ball sized blisters during the gold medal match, he would have easily cruised to a 2nd gold in Tokyo

  • @alsa4real
    @alsa4real10 ай бұрын

    Under appreciated

  • @ronaldpang5092
    @ronaldpang509210 ай бұрын

    He definitely was over-shadowed by the fans' desire for continuity of LD's rivalry with LCW. Anyone who came in between that rivalry was often overlooked. He was surely not a fan favourite because our hearts was only big enough for LD and LCW. But a legend he definitely was.

  • @BenBeckmanBadminton

    @BenBeckmanBadminton

    10 ай бұрын

    🙌🏻

  • @Satyam0694
    @Satyam069410 ай бұрын

    Ben! Please write a book. You are a wonderful storyteller.

  • @BenBeckmanBadminton

    @BenBeckmanBadminton

    10 ай бұрын

    Thank you 😊🙌🏻

  • @laisktibu
    @laisktibu10 ай бұрын

    I haven't looked many of your videos, and maybe I am wrong, but I hope you have a video of Lee Yong Dae, Korean MD player.. whom I have met and admired for years and who started my obsession in badminton. If you don't, I truly would like to see it one day. I have the deepest admiration into Korean society and especially badminton and their national team, the spirit and the training. Hope to find or see a video of him and his achievements soon!

  • @BenBeckmanBadminton

    @BenBeckmanBadminton

    10 ай бұрын

    A video on the great LYD will happen at some point

  • @laisktibu

    @laisktibu

    10 ай бұрын

    @@BenBeckmanBadminton Thank you! As I rember of Lee Yong Dae's interviews, he always thought Xhang Nan and Fu Haifeng were the most difficult rivals, though they(Lee Yong Dae and Yoo Yeon Seung) of course mentioned Ahsan And Setiawan often. Waiting for a deepdive! Before Rio, which they failed at, they promoted badminton in Korean tv show, Cool Kiz on the Block, and played with celebrity/idol stars of that time, that's mostly when I started with badminton... they were fun and enjoyable and played in the final(against Park Joo Bong(first olympic gold in MD) and Kim Dong Moon), against first badminton legends from Korea. Which was fun and humbling to see. Right now Yong Dae has his own channel Wonderplay Badminton, on KZread.. I think you a fitting guest for it :)

  • @laisktibu

    @laisktibu

    10 ай бұрын

    @@BenBeckmanBadminton Also, the first ever badminton competition I ever watched was Lee Yong Dae and Yoo Yeon Seong against Mathias Boe and Carsten Mogensen 2013, which not just by me, but also by the commentators was a brilliant match, by a new pairing and felt like I could only wait for new and better and more continuation results of one of the best pairs in badminton.. which they delivered. Though they did not deliver as.. they continued to stay too far on the court which despite their awesome defense and change of play, great netplay and placement when Yong Dae or Yeong Seong was up for it, still missed... which Yong Dae admits by now, their coaches did not much discuss.. because they were playing well enough.. which is a problem.. play well enough and your problems will not be noticed...

  • @Orashidimaru
    @Orashidimaru10 ай бұрын

    He lives & excel through 4 legends! Even more so 2 legendary rivalry of LD & LCW. He was what Victor Axelson is now. VA & CL had remarkable results. But their achievements are dwarfed by LCW & LD talent and skill sets.

  • @Shirikatsu
    @Shirikatsu10 ай бұрын

    The problem is that, while he would utterly dominate the modern MS scene, he simply was born in the wrong time. Elegant magicians of the likes of Lin Dan and Lee Chong Wei danced around and dominated the court in a way that could be ushered as the Renaissance of Badminton. The speed, agility, precision and ease of which these two Hall of Famers exhibited will likely never be attained again, and certainly not in the same era. Chen Long was unlucky enough to be competing in this same era. Whilst his physicality and sportsmanship cannot be understated, he is a phenomenal athlete, but he was just that; an athlete. The gravitas owed to the presence of The Masters where not a single movement spared a single excessive motion, where power suddenly arrived at a moment's notice, and the featherlike way they pranced around the court meant that it felt like they simply playing a different game. They were performers, dancing on the court in the art of Badminton. Simply put, Lin Dan and Lee Chong Wei were artists on the court, but Chen Long was just a 'measly' athlete, an incredibly successful one at that. But we aren't measured by the accolades we collect in our time in the spotlight, we are measured by the hearts that we touch, and the legacy of Lin Dan and Lee Chong Wei have all but overshadowed the impressive trophy cabinet of your humble competitor Chen Long.

  • @evokaiyo

    @evokaiyo

    10 ай бұрын

    This is why Chen Long is overlooked, when fans like yourself feel that Lin Dan and LCW were on a different level to Chen Long. With much due respect, Chen Long was on the same level as them. Just watching matches against either, none of them was dominating each other. Even if you don't watch the matches, just looking at the head to heads show equal standing. And tbh, each of these greats were known for their own particular style and Chen Long has his, being the Great Wall of China

  • @vitorlam9046

    @vitorlam9046

    10 ай бұрын

    during 2011-2012 , CL LCW h2h almost equal .... and that was young CL against prime LCW before 2013 all england final , CL:LCW h2h 5:7

  • @Shirikatsu

    @Shirikatsu

    10 ай бұрын

    @@evokaiyo I think it bears to witness what each player is good at and to praise them for exactly that, not more, not less. Interestingly it seems that you've also fallen into the trap that causes Chen Long to be overlooked too, in that I was praising his atheleticism and his physicality but only that. However my point was that I think in many cases the artistry can overshadow performance because of how we *feel* about a player. I'm not sure if you're into figure staking much, but you must have heard the name Yuzuru Hanyu. Many people consider Nathan Chen to be a better athlete on the ice having won Gold at the Olympics, but why is Yuzuru Hanyu so much more loved. His popularity doesn't also mean that Nathan Chen himself is underrated or overlooked, but if you watch their performances, Hanyu exhibits a level of artistry on the ice that cannot be matched and touches those that watch. You don't earn points for that but you do move people, and that's what earns you the place in the hearts of many.

  • @evokaiyo

    @evokaiyo

    10 ай бұрын

    @@Shirikatsu You obviously did not read what I said if you think I also overlooked Chen Long like yourself. Whereas you think that Lin Dan and LCW dominated the court and you feel Chen Long is just a "measly athlete", I hold the belief that Chen Long is on their level. He produced a lot of magic on court and always put on a show of excellence. Lin Dan and LCW had no dominance over Chen Long and it was anyone's guess who would win when they faced each other. If anything, Chen Long won Vs LCW in the matches that mattered most, so Chen Long has a slight edge over LCW

  • @jwojiunnkon6706
    @jwojiunnkon670610 ай бұрын

    As time pass by, I agreed that chenlong is underrated. He is so stable, play smart and passive. If he just delay abit, he will be another momota.

  • @elpistore9175
    @elpistore917510 ай бұрын

    Tactically good all round player

  • @nantusardar1662
    @nantusardar166210 ай бұрын

    Underrated chen long 😎😎

  • @WanderVagabond
    @WanderVagabond10 ай бұрын

    The guy was a rock so consistent not flashy but just so good. He did not have the flair of LD but humble hungry hardworking for that will be underrated. Kudos to a legend !

  • @therandomactivist1124
    @therandomactivist112410 ай бұрын

    Most chinese players are underrated. Not just chen, plenty of women's players from China that dominated the sport were often overlooked and not popular despite their incredible success. In chen's case, Lin Dan's popularity was unmatched although their achievements are comparable

  • @kopiking352
    @kopiking35210 ай бұрын

    The reason is I think: he is not a explosive player like LD, LCW; he is defensive and humber player not like Taufik or other skillful players; that means there are not so many dramas or stories about him and less crazy fans.

  • @happylife3428
    @happylife342810 ай бұрын

    I think in womens singles He Bingjiao also underrated like Chen long by her team mate chen yufei dominance

  • @c-a-t-entertinment7075
    @c-a-t-entertinment707510 ай бұрын

    Love all, Peter Gade, Taufik Hidayat, Lee Chong Wei, Lin Dan, Chen Long, Kento Momota, Axelson

  • @schlott1970
    @schlott197010 ай бұрын

    Lin Dan overshadows Chen Long in a video about how Lin Dan overshadowed Chen Long :) Joking of course, very nice narration

  • @BenBeckmanBadminton

    @BenBeckmanBadminton

    10 ай бұрын

    Maybe that was the point 😏 haha. Cheers

  • @anseinueseima408
    @anseinueseima40810 ай бұрын

    His last name is very rare but pronounces the same with another very common last name in China, that's why he's underrated

  • @sharreb1805
    @sharreb180510 ай бұрын

    I do thk Chen Long is underrated. Alot of ppl do know him but he doesnt hav the same stardom like LD or LCW. Personally theres 2 factors imo, first his yrs active is shorter at 14yrs. LD's was 20yrs and LCW's 19. The latter would hav played longer if not for his health. Then theres playing style. CL is efficient and steady but slower paced. LD had great tactical awareness and massive smash. Probably more showy style. LCW had the speed and suprise element.