Bad VS Decent VS Great Belting (Vocal Technique)
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Some things never get old, do they?
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0:00 Bad, decent and great belting technique
0:23 The rules
1:19 What is belting though?
2:29 F4
2:56 F#4
3:36 G4
4:13 G#4
4:36 A4
5:10 Bb4
5:39 B4
6:08 C5
6:44 C#5
7:07 D5
7:34 Eb5
8:01 E5
9:01 F5
9:34 Outro
kpop bad vs good belting, ain't no other fan kpop, nmixx, twice, jyp, bts, red velvet, nct 127, kiss of life, kpop high notes, sohyang, apink eunji, ailee, hyolyn, kpop vocal technique, exo, wendy, chen, baekhyun, gfriend yuju, taeyeon, aespa, dreamcatcher, monsta x, seventeen, jongho ateez, mamamoo, kpop live vocals, exid solji, kpop lipsync, vocal stability, park hyoshin
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"a very confident man indeed" I'M CRYING
@ELmayberry
4 ай бұрын
had me gone 😂😂😂
@Vonj19
4 ай бұрын
When he used him the second time! I too was especially gone😂😂
@vixxexo6855
4 ай бұрын
JYP is vocal good😡😡😡
@routetmarihamadafan7352
4 ай бұрын
I love your confidence...HAHAYA
@si_multifandom_ch_5099
4 ай бұрын
lol….
I need jyp's confidence 🥺 A very confident man indeed
@vixxexo6855
4 ай бұрын
His so cool😍😍
@eric24567
4 ай бұрын
Who doesn't dude. Asking your crush out? JYP's confidence. Job Interview? JYP's confidence. Gotta speak in front of a group of people? JYP's confidence. Life hits you? Hit back with JYP's confidence.
@Rozzness
4 ай бұрын
@@eric24567Istg your comment needs to be in a Tshirt or a motivational poster.😭 The "Hit back with JYP's confidence" line is gold Lmao thanks for the laugh.🤣
@inquisitvem6723
4 ай бұрын
His voice hasn’t aged like fine wine for sure unfortunately
@eric24567
4 ай бұрын
@@Rozznesscheers
i like that you included great vocalists in the “bad/decent”categories to show that even legends can have off days. one performance doesn’t define a singer, which is something kpop stans desperately need to learn.
Having Chen as the bad example for G#4 and then as the good example for the same note was so funny ashdhasdha
When people say that belting with good technique makes it boring I always think about Shinee's Jonghyun. He has one of the most stylized vocals I have ever heard and still manages to have a healthy and developed technique
@carolschapter
4 ай бұрын
this!
@hancake420
4 ай бұрын
THISSSSS
@user-wi5lf2xd2h
4 ай бұрын
Yes !: This ! He started by mastering the technics before stylising the way he used his voice. His solo discography is really something to listen to, he really did explore the limits of his voice a lot, he was a really ambitious vocalist who deeply loved music and seemed really curious about all he could do. But what is the most striking to me is really his evolution as a vocalist, he's so interesting, he did start as a more technical singer and slowly stylized the way he sang to a point he really became a K-pop vocalist you can't mix with any other
@maggot2259
4 ай бұрын
@user-wi5lf2xd2h Yesss! He knew how to do it and realized what worked and what didn't work, I forgot what vid it was but I remember him mentioning how he changes the way he sings often and I've heard vocal coaches say the same thing cuz the way he sings 1 song changed every year
@carolschapter
4 ай бұрын
@@user-wi5lf2xd2h yes! as a singer myself, i do admire and try to learn by listening and analysing his technique! for me jonghyun is a true vocalist artist cuz even when he goes for a more "stylist" sound HE KNOWS HOW TO DO IT WELL AND WITH NO DAMAGE! also jonghyun look up at singers/vocalists and tried to learn it. gosh i love jonghyun and him as an artist and a vocalist. he was a true vocalist
Even bosses like Ailee and Chen have their off moments
@DenallieDNa
4 ай бұрын
Yep. That makes me believe they're human 😂😂😂
Honestly speaking, Jyp might be a bad belter, but he definitely is a person who's confidence you can aspire to have.😂
@annanowak9620
4 ай бұрын
And he is actually a good teacher
This is why I always say there's a clear distinction between horrible and bad because none of the bad ones were really horrible and some of them weren't that bad to listen to (For the most part)
@kitkat2713
4 ай бұрын
Right, like JYP’s F#4 was listenable, but his G4 made me very uncomfortable 🥲
@connor8099
4 ай бұрын
@@kitkat2713 "UNCOMFORTABLE" 😭 you need to leave 🤣😭
@alexandragabitto2573
4 ай бұрын
@@kitkat2713🤣🤣🤣
What ive noticed is that my throat feels relaxed when listening to the green ones and tense when the red come up
@ttteea
4 ай бұрын
yep! Resonance does make you feel relaxed when listening to it. Notice how the red ones don’t have any resonance to them. That’s because the singers sang from the throat, instead of from the diaphragm.
I love that you showcased Chen having an off moment only to revalue him a second later!
Chen being in the ‘bad’ tier once here just goes to show that even the pros mess up every now and then
@himankmaheshwari2097
4 ай бұрын
D.o is superb in exo.truly underated
Nice now I have a better notion of what belting is. To distinguish the quality of the belting is like having a feeling about the "push". Push "painful" feeling : bad. Push "screamy" feeling : decent. Push "beautiful and lyrical" feeling : Great. Its quite like the voice you hear has a texture value. Spiky for Bad, Grainy for Decent and Soft for Great. And congrats for your finals !
I was a little bit confused when you showed Chen as red, because I thought it sounded good. But then you showed him again as green, and difference was crazy! Thanks for this video, and hope you did well on your finals, haha!
belle has such an amazing voice, but i noticed that she usually has to push herself to hit those crazy notes which makes me worried. i hope she protects her voice so that it doesn’t deteriorate :(
I love how JYP is out there giving singing advices when he himself barely can sing properly😂😂😂
@user-ps5jx1ci3b
4 ай бұрын
He is indeed very confident😂
@Lupita311
4 ай бұрын
Those who can't do... teach
@Prototype09
4 ай бұрын
I mean his advices aren't necessarily 100% incorrect but they're just simple things that probably doesn't even needed to be pointed out-
@rahinaissaka7004
4 ай бұрын
A teacher is not always better than their students.
@riffgroove
4 ай бұрын
And his groups are notoriously bad singers. I was shocked when I discovered NMIXX were actually half decent vocally. Twice and Itzy can't sing at all
i love how you showed chen in both bad and good belting and with the same note. it shows that this is about technique and not just mindless stan culture who thinks their fave can do no wrong and calls out others needlessly.
Even Chen can have bad moments.
@DenallieDNa
4 ай бұрын
Yes. Anyone can have bad moments 😊😊 We're human after all
@rachelmaddowswife8713
4 ай бұрын
I think people are losing perspective recently because we rarely hear idols sing live anymore. It used to be that we regularly heard incredible vocalists from SHINee, snsd, etc, crack or get into trouble on music shows, so people understood that this is normal. Honestly it made the great performances much more thrilling, because you could understand how difficult and rare it is. Now that everything is pre-recorded and heavily processed, I don't even know what half these fourth gen idols really sound like. Choreo has gotten tougher, but I'd personally prefer we went back to the old ways. Just let the main vocalist stand still and sing while the others dance at the climax.
@mozhdehmaleki940
4 ай бұрын
Even Mariah Carry has friend😂
@ttteea
4 ай бұрын
Everyone has bad moments
@Hellokitty_391
3 ай бұрын
Even Celine Dion, Beyonce, and Mariah Carey
Eunji hitting that note in a mask is mad impressive
i’m really glad you specified this isn’t about good singers vs bad singers and even showed great singers having bad moments! a lot of fans don’t seem to understand that even great vocalists can have their off days, especially in such a gruelling industry.
Evolution of JYPE Across Generations 😜
@hara2009
4 ай бұрын
Too bad his vocals didn’t undergo same evolution….
kiss of life's company needs to stop having belle sing so high all the time, i feel like it'll strain her voice some.
@afeliz2642
4 ай бұрын
yeah, i feel like she going to break her cords sometimes😭
I'm crying with "a very confident man indeed" 😭😭😭 I really love that performance by Seungkwan, he was only 19 😭🩵
The breath control is amazing of park Hyoshin
Chen's best luck notes are one of my favourites. This video made me realise that how even good vocalist can do bad belting sometimes.(Also can someone tell me that what range is chen's drop that note is?)
@VideoStar14
4 ай бұрын
In Drop That, he sustains an E5 belt at the end although there's a quick-phrased G5 right before. But lmao his part in Drop That has so many belted E5's.
@exo_shi_4306
4 ай бұрын
@@VideoStar14 thanks
I need jyps confidence
Some of Seungkwan’s notes can be so huge
I'm seeing a bunch of comments annoyed that there's only idols in this video . Why? This is an educational video about vocal technique and it shouldn't matter who is used as an example. Also maybe the creator has been listening to Kpop more as if recent and at the end of the day this us his channel
I think he still running for roses😂
@aintnootherfan
4 ай бұрын
I sure am!
@davinfad317
4 ай бұрын
@@aintnootherfan i wish you could make review of their album 🙌
4:28 just Chen competing with himself
Actually d.o told baekhyun to sing his part and baek slayed it
Very beautiful G4 from seungkwan, and as expected from SM vocalists chen amazing resonance and taeyeon beautiful C#5
NOT JYP ON THE THUMBNAIL xD
4:07 this note still give me goosebumps (also isn't that note resonated ?)
@1chanskie
4 ай бұрын
It is
@RafaelMartins-lf5qk
4 ай бұрын
Absolutely! Beautifully resonated
@kledi3817
4 ай бұрын
the actual meaning of resonance is different to know kpop stans use it. you could say it’s a great open belt with nice chest resonance.
@Bunnybunny5656
3 ай бұрын
A Green Supported note tends to have Resonance. If it doesn’t than it isn’t Green supported. At most it would be Yellow
Love how you acknowledged Eunji’s belts, especially that E5 ❤
Chen and Taeyeon really need a song together
im starting to believe that every video's intro will be run for roses from now
chen my guy is stunning 🤩😍
Hyolyn is a queen...the fact that she was dancing and hit that note 😭
@inquisitvem6723
4 ай бұрын
She really is. She reminds me of JK. Both are the best live performers with choreo.
@Rozzness
4 ай бұрын
@@inquisitvem6723 How you going to say Hyolins powerful vocals and dancing reminds you of JK when they're miles apart technique wise, be serious.😭
@inquisitvem6723
4 ай бұрын
@@Rozzness because most people who watch a performance do not care or talk about technique when watching. 😂…..she might be better , but he doesn’t have bad technique. They’re great live performers is the point.
@anggracweety
4 ай бұрын
@@Rozznesslmao ikr
I am so happy to see Luna in this video! She is technically so incredibly good it's insane! Also, if you don't mind me asking? Have you ever listened to Younha? She is a Korean singer and songwriter. She had incredible technique back in the days and supported F5's in her mixed register and despite her voice being so bright and youthful, it was really powerful and amplified in size. :) She was imo one of the best vocalists in Korea back in the days.
8:54 damn that was a CRAZY belt oh my God! Happy that you did well on your finals (not even surprised tbh)!! Looking forward to your next videos’ ideas (:
Yey DK and Seungkwan... And i personally congratulate all main vocalists identified here... They work hard for their craft... ❤
I loved that you used two examples of Chen for G#4!
Eunji is such a mad queen. E5 with a mask on!
You should also check out Nmixx's Haewon, she has some great belting moments
@aintnootherfan
4 ай бұрын
You mean my Nmixx bias?😁
@nayeonisgonnabeastar
4 ай бұрын
@@aintnootherfan mine too!🙈
tbf Chen's bad G#4 was on a terrible vowel to belt in the first place
this video just reminding everyone that eunji is a legend and one of the best vocalists in kpop
Thank u for prasing Dk and Boo, and the other channel comment the Seventeen sound is robotic and emotionless.
Thank you for including clips and appreciating APINK Eunji's vocals 💖
Eunjis E5 sounded CRAZYY
This is so interesting and entertaining. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us ❤
YAYYYYYY the beloved series
Only Park Hyoshin looks flawless belted ❤
@DenallieDNa
4 ай бұрын
Yes. My first love. He's super cool
Seungkwan my baby..! 😭 I love you so much 👏👏👏 I swear his vocal card never declines. Cut JYP some slack ☹️ .. he tries.
Thank you for this video❤
Lily's recent E5 in the groups cover of Kiss at their MIXX University concert🥰 (day 1, day 2 wasn't as open)
@aintnootherfan
4 ай бұрын
Will have to check it out!
@martacastillo6272
4 ай бұрын
@@aintnootherfanyessss! look up the fancams from October 7th 2023, Lily had her pink hair short on day 1
Belting is what gives you chills the back of your arms.
I appreciate how you showed some great singers having off moments. It shows they are human. Would love to see you talk about Yonghoon from the band Onewe. He is a great singer, but no one talks about him.
It would be nice if there could be explanations for why someone’s belt was bad, decent, good for different clips.
the jyp comments are hilarious. great video :)
another great video in this series. I am so happy that you have included Bell of Kiss of Life. I notice there are times when Belle sounds great belting and some times she is just really bad. why do you think is causing this inconsistency? what can she do to improve?
eunji being the queen she is! it feels like only the people who know about vocal technique give her praise 😭 i wish the gp could hear what we hear
Seeing Chen and Ailee having both red and green moments just showed that even kings and queens will have their off moment, and that is TOTALLY normal. Not having mistakes in your life simply means you’re not human. Thanks for the compilation 🎉
JYP ones are torture tbh. 😂
Run for roses making a comeback ;))) I love the song too so really happy to hear u use it a lot!
The jongho clip is "is it still beautifull" if anyone wanted it.
Siyeon is giving FERGIE
@The_Slurpers
4 ай бұрын
siyeon is giving 🦆 but her vibrato is decent
@connor8099
4 ай бұрын
Oh my God I played it back and she really does sound like Fergie 😭
@soyeonvsveggies
4 ай бұрын
😭
@Kais_Peaches
4 ай бұрын
Jail
@ChloeBx
4 ай бұрын
Jail 😭
I'm happy to see Eunji and Luna in this channel. They are amazing 🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩
Love your videos! I was wondering if you could look into pentagon's vocal line and also btob (I think you haven't metion them before but I may be wrong), I think there's some gems in those groups and they're rarely talked about :(
I don't even know nor understand these things of notes, but this is entertaining.
i wish someday i'll have the same confidence as jyp
Lovely examples ❤
Park hyoshin is such an amazing vocalist. This just made me want to go back and revisit a lot of his performances
I loved the "Stunning" for Chen, he is indeed stunning ❤
i miss your christina aguilera videos, please talk about her new vegas residency 🙏
Eunjin slayed the B4 & the E5 omg😭❤️🔥
I wanted to ask if you'd ever do a video on bad/decent/great vocal fry or distortion? I would love to see something like that. ❤
Congratulations on your finals 🎆 Belts are such awesome moments for singers and it gives me chills all the time. Even though that Winter C5 is always used to showcase the bad side of her belting I can't help but love when i hear her sing that note
i love that you include multiple colors from the same singer!!!!
@yer_lcal_kiyk_simp9313
25 күн бұрын
Not with Siyeon 😐 this guy should know that Siyeon sings rock and that’s why she doesn’t really belt it’s a rock thing
Thanks for showing that you can recognize bad moments for great singers. People like to generalize that a bad performance equates to a bad performer overall. We just have days that are not in our favor. We can slay next time around.
2nd gen is the goat
I love that you show multiple notes and colours for some of these singers, I feel like really helps illustrate what bad/decent/good notes sound like on the same voice!
Eunji's resonance on E5 😭🔥
So Hyang is such an underrated artist. Very talented you should make a video just for her
Park Hyoshin and Sohyang are the standard bearers for great belting. Glad you show them here.
So happy to see some Luna appreciation in this video
Weee! Would love to see such a video with western artists too again! :D
now I understand ehy haewon biased jyp, he is so confident haha
idk how to explain it, but when they are green they make me tear up.
Yuju's resonance is so powerful
Sohyang queen of mix voice ❤
You can hear that the good ones sound clearer but I have no clue as to why 😂
would love a video breaking down jyp's voice
I was realy confident Taeyon will show up in this video and will be green. I wasnt wrong. Btw I dont have any clue of notes and anything shown in this video, yet it was realy entertaining.
I just knew Sohyang would on this list
what do you think about Day6's vocals? can you do a video about it? I'm really interested to see your analysis/ranking or whatever just whatever anything lol.
Hey love your content but had a question If you have seen Iz*one, where would Jo Yuri fall in the category? I think she’s a good technical belter but I wanted your opinion.
I need you to start hearing tvxq ot5 and using them in the videos
3:16 I didn’t know Hyoshin had a moment like that. His breath support here is outstanding!
4th gen groups either have the best or most mid vocalists ever. youve got billlie and aespa who are all clearly vocally trained with simpler dances and then you've got groups like newjeans, le sserafim and itzy who are more dance focused. and then youve got nmixx who are jumping up and down while singing. and i'm least a fan of them than all the other groups i mentioned but i gotta hand it to em because that is mind blowinggg
OMG i need u to do a vocal analysis on luna