Bad Drivers: tormenting left-lane bandits is community service! - The Carmudgeon Show - Ep. 10

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  • @kent570253
    @kent5702534 жыл бұрын

    This video should be mandatory for everyone who drives.

  • @blueridgegarage

    @blueridgegarage

    4 жыл бұрын

    Unfortunately we can't seem to get this message out to the morons on the road!

  • @SeanVedell

    @SeanVedell

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@blueridgegarage Because from what I’ve experienced with my kids getting their licenses, highway driving still isn’t part of any road test, which is insanity.

  • @RedRideRVT1R

    @RedRideRVT1R

    Жыл бұрын

    driver Ed

  • @JOSEF_GAMING45

    @JOSEF_GAMING45

    Жыл бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZWFqvLmmZcyag7Q.html

  • @Resist_Oppression

    @Resist_Oppression

    Жыл бұрын

    I just saw this video and completely agree with you.

  • @JasonCammisa
    @JasonCammisa4 жыл бұрын

    Watching this, GOD we sound like a bunch of... carmudgeons! Old, elitist, grumpy, carmudgeons. Sucks that we're 100% right though, huh Hyphie?

  • @Dtamscott

    @Dtamscott

    4 жыл бұрын

    Uh I'm not just an old, elitist, grumpy, carmudgeon, I'm also a swimwear model, according to the lower third that you COMPLETELY FABRICATED. But yes, I stand by everything I said in the video, carmudgeonly or not.

  • @JasonCammisa

    @JasonCammisa

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Dtamscott Leave it to you to give a well-reasoned, articulate response. I woulda just said, "well, sheeeeeeeeyyyut."

  • @BlueRidgePhantom

    @BlueRidgePhantom

    4 жыл бұрын

    You guys are right about this, and I could not agree more with both of you. Derek, you make me want to train more.

  • @danthomas9077

    @danthomas9077

    4 жыл бұрын

    I wear my "carmudgeons" badge with honor! I drive a 1978 Datsun king cab pickup that I "built" 20 years ago, no one wants to get stuck behind an old Datsun truck it seems as I can't tell you how many times I've had people speed up or try to block me from passing. I can tell you no one has ever been successful at it though. My Datsun has a mild built Buick V6 with a 2004r overdrive trans, heavy duty shocks and front/rear aftermarket anti-sway bars, it's a total sleeper with it's scratched up faded paint, other than a front air dam and nice wheels/tires it looks like something I wouldn't want to follow either. Oregon is a keep right unless passing state, lots of people ignore it, I've had to pass a left lane hog on the right many times, of course some speed up or try to block me, but my Datsun runs! It fun to watch people be pissed when there "new" cars governor cuts in @ 100-115 mph and I fly by them and leave them behind, I've had to do it many times, people think they're gonna get stuck following a slow old truck, it's ok I love seeing the look on their faces as I blow by them in my Datsun, I give em a big smile and wave. ;)

  • @asparceproton1

    @asparceproton1

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hey @JasonCammisa, what do you like about the Apple Watch? Maybe you're just not a watch guy, and thats fine, but I see them as a kind of Tesla of the watch world. Just thought a guy who really appreciates the mechanical and analogue nature of cars might be wearing something similarly mechanical and analogue on his wrist.

  • @swamin764
    @swamin7644 жыл бұрын

    Leaving KZread was motor trend’s second mistake, their first mistake was getting rid of Jason

  • @shiks98

    @shiks98

    4 жыл бұрын

    I think he left on his own...

  • @JasonCammisa

    @JasonCammisa

    4 жыл бұрын

    Uhhh I left Motor Trend, most certainly not the other way around. Either way, I appreciate the sentiment though! :)

  • @swamin764

    @swamin764

    4 жыл бұрын

    JasonCammisa 👍 thanks for the info mate 🙂

  • @glorious_help

    @glorious_help

    4 жыл бұрын

    Swami N you don’t know their finances... can’t know if it was a mistake to leave the free platform at that time

  • @Idleinca

    @Idleinca

    4 жыл бұрын

    I think their director quit at the same time. I assumed one of their H2H episodes upset a sponsor/advertiser, so they quit in frustration. Focus RS vs Golf R?

  • @americanAlienBoy
    @americanAlienBoy4 жыл бұрын

    I've given up on "not passing on the right." I do the "drive right, pass left" thing whenever I can, but when I encounter left lane bandits, I take whatever lane will get the job done. Funny thing though - in moderately heavy traffic, left lane camping has gotten so bad that you can often make better time in the right-hand lane. Also, it's less stressful because you're maintaining a more even pace as the left lane "accordians" more.

  • @JoshAllenberg

    @JoshAllenberg

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hold on now, people adhere to not passing on the right? Been consciously ignoring that since I started driving.

  • @leotam3372

    @leotam3372

    4 жыл бұрын

    So glad it's legal on multi lane highways in NY

  • @tomwebber5094

    @tomwebber5094

    2 жыл бұрын

    Metro L.A truth right here folks. Left lane bandits are rampant. Just go far right lane and get where you need to go.

  • @chrisburn7178

    @chrisburn7178

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's the same in the UK, except of course it's the right lane. I often plan my overtakes when the left (or "driving") lane as it's called in the UK is empty and there's a queue of dumbasses in the overtaking lanes. Like the OP said, I can maintain a consistent speed better that way. In the UK people do move out of the right lane more on three lane highways but then they sit in the middle lane going exactly the same speed as the slower left lane traffic like trucks.

  • @snek9353

    @snek9353

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same here.

  • @x3mbr
    @x3mbr4 жыл бұрын

    6:22 a place where "everyone will follow every single rule except for the speed limit" sounds like heaven to me

  • @macaron3141592653

    @macaron3141592653

    4 жыл бұрын

    honestly, speed limits are terrible.

  • @huntermacdonald6431

    @huntermacdonald6431

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@macaron3141592653 for real. Every car and driver has there own limits

  • @joshuachandra6677

    @joshuachandra6677

    3 жыл бұрын

    First it's just way too easy to get your license here in the States next this is the way it should be all across the board

  • @geebass1709
    @geebass17094 жыл бұрын

    Am I the only one that instantly felt like I was hearing myself talking here?

  • @red07ls

    @red07ls

    4 жыл бұрын

    G Bass sure as heck not!

  • @andreystarovoytov3337
    @andreystarovoytov33374 жыл бұрын

    I'm a truck driver, usually drive Sacramento to Bay Area, just the other day I had an Audi going slow, and since trucks can usually only use 2 right lanes, I could not pass him on the left lane for a long time, when I had an opportunity to pass him in the most right line, he sped up as I was about to pass him and then slowed down again. Pissed me off so bad that I gave him a highway horn, didn't work a bit, just kept going slow in front of me. Everything you guys talk about is really close to heart, many times I warn people that their headlight are off, most of the time no reaction, sometimes I get a thanks, sometimes a dirty look.

  • @zishansyed8905

    @zishansyed8905

    4 жыл бұрын

    I drive an M3, very different... but I can't begin to Express how much I can relate to your frustration! Good luck out there, stay safe!

  • @deejayyy1681

    @deejayyy1681

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hey 👋 I'm a Sacramento/bay area truck driver too! Hauling dirt equipment on the lowboy, I usually just keep my wide load ass to the right. I did have someone managed to pit maneuver himself on my front bumper going through Pinole once. 🤷‍♂️

  • @future62
    @future624 жыл бұрын

    When I drove in France for the first time, I cried. I was the slowest guy on the road at ~85 MPH, and I just cruised in one of the right lanes. It was the most beautiful and relaxing drive I ever had. Bonus points for it being in a brown manual diesel Ford Focus wagon. America's shitty driving is an extension of its culture. It's a psychological tax for "freedom".

  • @fast4d1

    @fast4d1

    4 жыл бұрын

    Worth the tolls

  • @bluetoes591

    @bluetoes591

    4 жыл бұрын

    Driving in France is great. I also recommend driving a little old French car on the twisty backroads. Makes underpowered French cars make so much sense.

  • @kennybeans6115

    @kennybeans6115

    Жыл бұрын

    Regarding your mention of the relaxing driving interactions at high speeds, as an American driving here in the states, it always seems like the higher the speed you’re going, the higher the driver IQ is around you.

  • @marcusjosefsson4998

    @marcusjosefsson4998

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@bluetoes591It can be great. It can also be absolutely horrible! Mostly because of the french...

  • @Trendyflute
    @Trendyflute4 жыл бұрын

    Between being a car enthusiast and a civil engineer, I could rant for so long on so many topics you bring up here...suffice it to say, this stuff is why I had "Please Be Courteous - Keep Right Except To Pass" as my license plate frame for a long time, to _try_ to maybe educate a handful of people on the road everyday...long story short, we need much, much better driver education and more stringent licensing requirements. If we tightened up our license laws to remove even just the worst 5% of drivers from the road, imagine how much better that will make the roads for everyone else! The worst drivers cause the most congestion and road rage and accidents; _take their licenses away._

  • @nosispower

    @nosispower

    4 жыл бұрын

    This is genius. I just ordered one on Amazon.

  • @snek9353

    @snek9353

    4 жыл бұрын

    I agree with the sentiment but disagree with the solution. The one thing I disagree with in this video, like it or not driving is a right. Roads are public property and we all have the right to use them. HOWEVER the solution is to ticket/fine things like left lane bandits, do things like different speed limits for lanes, etc. When it's enforced they'll learn.

  • @blueridgegarage

    @blueridgegarage

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@snek9353 I see your point, but seems that law enforcement is enforcing the worst laws. Not many tickets are given to the idiots that cause traffic by simply squatting in the passing lanes. In Virginia, one time, police started giving tickets to those left lane hugging morons and the firewall of BS they met for doing so was incredible. So many people are so f@#$ed up. So I just fly by everyone, no matter if I have a license or not.

  • @kcfreeman3021

    @kcfreeman3021

    3 жыл бұрын

    I like this smart guy here!

  • @kcfreeman3021

    @kcfreeman3021

    3 жыл бұрын

    Oh, driving in not a right, it's a privilege.

  • @BoxCarRacer-notthebandsorry
    @BoxCarRacer-notthebandsorry4 жыл бұрын

    The empathetic anger I felt during this entire video was palpable. Left lane campers, people unaware of their own existence...I have this rant in my head every day I drive, it's so cathartic hearing it back. As a Marylander, I can tell you that it isn't any better than wherever you might think the worst is.

  • @uberyoyo
    @uberyoyo4 жыл бұрын

    100% agreement on the idea of 'you made me do this'. I had a blind spot guy about a month ago. Same thing. Up to 100. Down to 60. Guy just stayed in my blind spot. I ended up dropping him by virtue of my car having more power and getting him stuck behind 2 people who were just barely off of each other in speed.

  • @DanielSadjadian

    @DanielSadjadian

    4 жыл бұрын

    Pedal to the metal, nice 👍 We have a similar problems in the UK too - some people just won't get out the way and deliberately stay in the middle lane.

  • @jwhite7621
    @jwhite76214 жыл бұрын

    Living in Germany ruined me. Houston must be up there with Washington. I’ve watched drivers merge onto the freeway and cross 4 empty lanes to settle in the left lane at 4 am in the morning.

  • @DanielSadjadian

    @DanielSadjadian

    4 жыл бұрын

    Now that is a special kind of stupid. Same problem in the UK, everyone In the outside lane, not a single car in the normal driving lanes lol

  • @crashyyy4116

    @crashyyy4116

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@DanielSadjadian Honestly the UK has far better lane discipline than any place I've ever driven in the US. Done a few road trips from the SE of England to Scotland and from the SE of England to Wales.

  • @souljastation5463

    @souljastation5463

    4 жыл бұрын

    Where I'm from you're supposed to be on the left lane only if you're passing someone or if you're going really fast (and no-one is behind you). It's in the road code, would it be difficult to add it to the American code?

  • @Dolby109

    @Dolby109

    3 жыл бұрын

    I saw someone do this years ago, same deal....he was going right around the speed limit, so I moved over 4 lanes to pass him and flashed my bights. He didn't move right, and got super pissed to boot, and started tailgating me, flashing his brights.

  • @hellobooom

    @hellobooom

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@crashyyy4116 UK is so much better than US/CA

  • @macattack57
    @macattack574 жыл бұрын

    I agree with everything in this. I grew up in Germany and the drivers in the states are absolutely awful. No idea what they're doing. One of the more recent idiots that I encountered was in Colorado. My friends and I were up there in our roadsters (NB Miata, ND Miata, and an S2K) and I was leading the pack and I went to pass this lady that was doing a good 20mph under the speed limit in her Jeep Cherokee, and as soon as I pulled out she sped up. Not just a little, but completely buried the throttle. My ND is not a fast car, so I had the hardest time passing her. Barely made it, as there was another car coming in the other lane. People like her probably think that they're putting the "dangerous drives" in they're place, but in reality, they are the idiots and the dangerous ones. I just wish everyone could driver properly.

  • @Lena-vq9fo

    @Lena-vq9fo

    4 жыл бұрын

    Colorado is one of the worst states for left lane hogs. I-25 is such a mess from Pueblo to Ft. Collins.

  • @gearhead-do1xh

    @gearhead-do1xh

    Жыл бұрын

    Come to Canada to see some dumb bad drivers 🎉😂

  • @BlueRidgePhantom
    @BlueRidgePhantom4 жыл бұрын

    Left lane hogging is illegal and bad at every speed.

  • @Trendyflute
    @Trendyflute4 жыл бұрын

    OMG JASON! That Sentra story, I was seriously sitting with my heart pounding for you, something like that is my nightmare for serious, but then he getting pulled over for triple digits after his bullshit is some justice! *If someone is passing you, for the love of god and all that is holy, DO NOT SPEED UP* 👍👍👍

  • @wayward03

    @wayward03

    3 жыл бұрын

    I've done this twice in my life and it was because i was being tail gated to a degree in which their headlights were obscured.

  • @jkliao6486

    @jkliao6486

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@wayward03 That probably means you should move over to the right lane (if there is one) to let other faster vehicles carry on, even if they are speeding excessively.

  • @ArkadiaII
    @ArkadiaII4 жыл бұрын

    My favourite is the "passing lane" speed up. Most recently I cop'd this from a tour bus, doing 50kph in an 80 zone. The second we get to a dedicated passing lane, he's dropped a 100 of nitrous and is doing 90. No chance of passing. No sooner has the "passing lane ends" sign appeared and we're back to a crawl...

  • @atlanticdriver8160

    @atlanticdriver8160

    4 жыл бұрын

    I hate that. Where I live the is mostly single lane roads with dedicated passing areas. Same thing happens here. Luckily I drive a car with relative more power than those around me and can take advantage of out accelerating those around me.

  • @racekar80

    @racekar80

    4 жыл бұрын

    ArkadiaII that’s why I love my Porsche, not much can stop a pass pulling that crap.

  • @limulus61

    @limulus61

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@racekar80 Yep, the biggest pleasure for me is to hit the Sport+ button and blast by them. The sound is also a helluva stimulant. I guess I like it when I get behind a slow driver. Especially if they have their window down and I can give them a blast of headers and Porsche Sport Exhaust.

  • @David_Journey

    @David_Journey

    4 жыл бұрын

    You are wishful, in California when passing lane opens up, *everyone* moves to the left lane at the same time, and you have a theoretical opportunity to pass on the right... also they pass with speed differential of couple miles per hour, just to keep it entertaining (end of rant)

  • @souljastation5463

    @souljastation5463

    4 жыл бұрын

    speeding up while someone is trying to pass you is a behavior of a psycho, are they all psychos in the US?

  • @dburn4643
    @dburn46434 жыл бұрын

    PREACH! When I'm yelling all this stuff to myself in the car constantly, it sometimes feels like I"m the only one with any sense. Glad to see others exist. If only Police enforced this instead of bogus speeding tickets.

  • @corradotox
    @corradotox4 жыл бұрын

    As someone who drove in Europe for almost 30 years and now lived in the USA for the last 7 years, I can't agree more! The average American driver is AWFUL on highways and back roads. However, I must admit that the lethargic US driving pace has a lot of advantages in terms of safety in urban/suburban areas. I've seen some really scary stuff in European cities that are not (usually) happening in the US.

  • @Talynen

    @Talynen

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah one good thing about being an American driver (although I try to not be like the drivers complained about here) is that I'm happy to sit at a turn until I'm absolutely sure I have enough space to complete the turn and get up to speed without risking someone who isnt paying attention t-boning or rear ending me. Because I'm justified in assuming the other drivers are not good I don't feel bad about wasting other people's time to ensure I am staying safe.

  • @paulds65

    @paulds65

    2 жыл бұрын

    Just moved to the US 2 months ago, completely agree. It's only now that I am starting to be a little bit at ease in traffic.

  • @coreygolphenee9633

    @coreygolphenee9633

    2 жыл бұрын

    The lethargic pace of urban and suburban drivers in the US is at the expense of the pedestrian and frankly most Americans are not competent at anything other than 5 lane Stroads

  • @Parker-time
    @Parker-time4 жыл бұрын

    Thats why I drive by IMSA rules. Flash the brights until they move over.

  • @dreamdrivedrift

    @dreamdrivedrift

    4 жыл бұрын

    The amount of anger vs effectiveness I have gotten from flashing my brights is not worth it anymore. I just go around.

  • @AlumarsX

    @AlumarsX

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@dreamdrivedrift Flashing fogs is a good middle ground. I do it from quite a distance and it works 3.5/5 times.

  • @calvincooley1074

    @calvincooley1074

    4 жыл бұрын

    I do the same but in Ohio it's a foreign driving language.

  • @marcusjosefsson4998

    @marcusjosefsson4998

    8 ай бұрын

    If I flash the brights people usually move over. Helps that I'm driving the Swedish equivalent to the Ford Crown Vic... A white Volvo wagon is the most common cop car here.

  • @richardredhead

    @richardredhead

    3 ай бұрын

    I used to flash my lights for people to move over. There was a time when this was maybe 50% effective, now it's probably closer to 5%. Flashing, especially from a relatively short distance only pisses people off. Either way, most people are too ignorant and self-centered to give a shit. Easier, and probably safer, to just carefully pass on the right and be on your way. Never underestimate how malevolent, stupid and/or oblivious people can be.

  • @victoryveshinojosa
    @victoryveshinojosa4 жыл бұрын

    This channel is just so damn good.

  • @JDsHouseofHobbies
    @JDsHouseofHobbies4 жыл бұрын

    As a trucker, I can tell you SO MANY stories of the stupid things people do. And, I've passed cars that were not going 55 in the right lane, only to have that person speed up because god forbid they have a semi in front of them. And Jason is right about Bay Area drivers. I used to live in Santa Rosa, Ca. And I went down to SF to drop off mail and it's Hell.

  • @BlueRidgePhantom

    @BlueRidgePhantom

    4 жыл бұрын

    I always drive behind semis when it's thick traffic, right lane, it's safer. If the traffic is moving I'm flying by you all, and when any or you want to switch I will flash you and let you pass since sometimes it takes forever to get up to speed after slowing down one of those semis.

  • @matthewkopf6243
    @matthewkopf62433 жыл бұрын

    Perhaps my greatest annoyance is when you get to the right to allow people to pass and then they pass slowly or shadow until you get stuck behind another vehicle in the right lane and have to slow down. You get punished for doing the right thing and makes you hesitant to move right because you can’t count on others to pass effectively.

  • @AndreThompson925
    @AndreThompson9254 жыл бұрын

    Jesus Christ, it's so beautiful to see there are others that drive literally the same as me. I don't pretend to have skills like you guys but our habits...are... exactly the same.

  • @nolanhayden4432
    @nolanhayden44322 жыл бұрын

    I specifically remember my driving instructor (WA state, go figure) saying ‘drive the speed limit, if you’re holding people up you’re doing them a favor’ and ‘left lane is for cruising, right lane is for exiting’. Which like…damn man, just read the signs on the side of the road!

  • @jkliao6486

    @jkliao6486

    2 жыл бұрын

    Your driving instructor is the worst because he denied my right to get pulled over for speeding.

  • @surrealtom

    @surrealtom

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jkliao6486 overtaking doesn't equal speeding.

  • @jkliao6486

    @jkliao6486

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@surrealtom Context, if you are overtaking someone driving the speed limit, by law of physics, you are speeding.

  • @surrealtom

    @surrealtom

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jkliao6486 by law of physics, not necessarily by law of traffic. Please stop trying to be a smartass

  • @fonzolatrundo9140
    @fonzolatrundo91404 жыл бұрын

    I’ve had two of my employees, both in their early 20’s here in Pennsylvania fail their behind the wheel driver’s license test 5 times before passing on the 6th attempt. Neither had any formal behind the wheel training and were basically learning to drive while being tested. If you can’t pass in 5 attempts I suggest mandatory professional driver training is necessary. Both live in an urban environment and one doesn’t even have regular access to a car. Now that she’s licensed at some point, maybe years down the road she’ll be able to afford a car that may or may not be safe to drive and will be on the road in the left lane forcing all of us to pass her on the right. The tester probably sees 5 fails and says “ah screw it we’ve wasted enough time on you... PASS!”

  • @ramonallende
    @ramonallende4 жыл бұрын

    Jason, you leaving MotorTrend was like Iron Man dying in End Game! So glad you’re back in KZread! We need more Icon shows!

  • @archimedes298
    @archimedes2984 жыл бұрын

    Oh Thank you!!! for this video. I just got home from Hundreds of miles on Highway 5 through Northern California. So much terrible drivers out there.

  • @JasonCammisa

    @JasonCammisa

    4 жыл бұрын

    Oh god, you poor thing. I-5 is actual hell on earth.

  • @jbrenofficial
    @jbrenofficial3 жыл бұрын

    As someone who grew up in the PNW, this is SO F*CKING ACCURATE!!!! The drivers up here suck at hogging the left lane and they think they're entitled to go like 61 or some crap. Then when you go to pass them either they flip you off for "flying past them" or they speed up, but they never get out of the left lane!!!

  • @chaleowin7732
    @chaleowin77324 жыл бұрын

    Please show this video at drivers ed classes in all states, this is pure gold. I will never let a Prius merge in front of me. I don't care if Godzilla is blocking their lane, they will not merge in front of me. Prius drives have taught me that if I DO allow them in front of me, they will force me to go 1-2 MPH below the posted speed limit, with no exception. I hope this channel gains traction fast.

  • @rugu6869
    @rugu68694 жыл бұрын

    NJ and outside of NYC they hog the left lane as well. I end up passing more people in the right lane or the far right lane because so many people are just sitting in the left lane.

  • @xkillachrisx

    @xkillachrisx

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah same. NJ driving usually means driving in the left until there’s a line of cars but the right lanes are completely open. Can’t help but pass on the right around here.

  • @midnightryder611
    @midnightryder611 Жыл бұрын

    Speeding up while being passed is the most evil, vile, narcissistic, arse hole thing a human can do to another human

  • @xDaRkModEx
    @xDaRkModEx2 жыл бұрын

    7:57 when he said "died 16 years ago and are still coasting to a stop" had me f-kng DEAD 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @benfidar
    @benfidar4 жыл бұрын

    I love how, in Italy, if you are passing several cars on the left and a faster car is coming up on you all you need to do is put on your left blinker and the faster car will slow, back off, and let you pass because you have signaled your intent to get the fuck out of their way as soon as you can. Brilliant.

  • @JesusRodriguez-tm8go

    @JesusRodriguez-tm8go

    4 жыл бұрын

    Gotta say, Italians are not the safest drivers in europe

  • @benfidar

    @benfidar

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@JesusRodriguez-tm8go They are safer than you might think. They drive aggressively, but they are very predictable, particularly on the highway. I drove throughout the south where everyone leads with their horn and even in completely unregulated intersections, I never saw an accident.

  • @JesusRodriguez-tm8go

    @JesusRodriguez-tm8go

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@benfidar I drove from Venice to Naples in 15 days, and I never saw an accident either, neither did I think they used their honk that much, I would say we use it more in Spain, but I can't say they are safe drivers. I didn't say bad drivers, just not super safe.

  • @benfidar

    @benfidar

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@JesusRodriguez-tm8go Ok! I agree. I have been with my friend in his Audi going in excess of 140mph many times!

  • @davidfrandina3622
    @davidfrandina36222 жыл бұрын

    I wish we could develop a website that lures the left lane hogs and forces them to watch this conversation. Well done completely vocalizing my great frustration.

  • @Wydarr
    @Wydarr4 жыл бұрын

    I can't recommend this video enough. Going through the last part, with the "clump of stupid" my jaw dropped as to how logical and simple the explanation was. Keep up the work you are doing to educate us.

  • @alexm4515
    @alexm45154 жыл бұрын

    I live in Florida. Try the Blinky game: Pass the person you want to speed up. Turn on your blinker (as if you're going to get into the lane they're in) Watch them speed up.

  • @jaasun71

    @jaasun71

    4 жыл бұрын

    Alex M Florida has some really bad drivers.

  • @maru5395

    @maru5395

    4 жыл бұрын

    I am also from FL, it seems we got all the retards from Oregon and Washington here, give them a sleeping pill, and a dose of attitude. Here the passing lane is the right one, is just that bad.

  • @georgerosebush9754

    @georgerosebush9754

    4 жыл бұрын

    This is my actual technique for making that slow left lane hogger speed up: try to pass them. The only drawback is when they get pissy and match the car to their right blocking you.

  • @obenwahkenobib8899

    @obenwahkenobib8899

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@georgerosebush9754 yeah it also accomplishes the exact opposite of a relaxing drive which is have someone who isnt self aware start driving aggressively, sucks.

  • @georgerosebush9754

    @georgerosebush9754

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@obenwahkenobib8899 True, but if you want a relaxing drive you can't be in the fast lane passing everyone.

  • @ansmercuri
    @ansmercuri4 жыл бұрын

    Same problem here in Australia, except on the "right" side

  • @renantlobo

    @renantlobo

    4 жыл бұрын

    Same here in Brazil (especially here in Sao Paulo) but on the right side of the road (just kidding)

  • @JasonCammisa

    @JasonCammisa

    4 жыл бұрын

    On the right side AND upside-down!

  • @fang75429

    @fang75429

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@JasonCammisa Come to New Zealand one day, it is just as bad :)

  • @francoisg3500

    @francoisg3500

    4 жыл бұрын

    Same in the UK as well!

  • @darryllspalding5211

    @darryllspalding5211

    4 жыл бұрын

    It’s because everyone from everywhere is from some place else. I hate fast lane joggers!!!

  • @markdavidson4530
    @markdavidson45304 жыл бұрын

    As a Western Washingtonian, I can say you hit the nail right on the head. Not only do people here have horrible tastes in cars, but they are also horrible drivers. Nobody passes in the left lane and everybody drives slow. If you flash your lights to ask someone to move over they just get mad and slow down even more. Part of the reason why I like working from home do much is because I don’t have to get furious in the morning and afternoon dealing with my 14 miles commute.

  • @szeeck
    @szeeck4 жыл бұрын

    Holy hell I needed this in my life. Also the law in Colorado is keep right except when passing on all highways. Even when people drive right by the signs they still don't follow it. I've started flashing my lights when I approach left lane hogs as a nice way to let them know. Had a guy from Cali brake-check me once. Only one guy I had just passed in the right lane now in my blind spot. No one in front of us. The next left turn was in 2 miles. Wtf.

  • @gulf627
    @gulf6274 жыл бұрын

    About overtaking in Germany...I live in south Germany and what you, Jason, said is no more the case (but it was). Nowadays it happens me very often that when I pass someone with plenty of space and time I get flashing lights from the passed car (what I interpret to be an reprimand of a scared driver). I think there is a new generation of drivers who drives very few miles on country roads and has almost no experience with overtaking. When I was a kid there was almost no highways (Spain) and my father, as every driver, had to overtake constantly. Therefore those drivers were not afraid of overtaking or be (safely overtaken). "Young drivers (and with that I mean also mine under 40) are in general totally scared of overtaking. Thanks a lot for the videos!

  • @daemn42
    @daemn424 жыл бұрын

    My home state of Colorado has the same pull over if there's 5 cars behind you law. Zero people obey it. California is actually the only state I've driven in where I consistently see people pull over to let faster cars go by on two lane twisty roads, and they do it quite regularly. I've driven Highway 178 between Bakersfield and Lake Isabella (narrow/twisty/fun) about 500 times and and most slower cars use the short pullouts. There are exceptions, that prove the rule of course. Occasionally oblivious drivers like everywhere, and sometimes I get a local (usually in a pickup truck coming or going to work) who *knows* the road and accelerates and storms off down the road to show me that they're faster.. cept they never are, and they usually do pull off after a spirited chase (which I don't mind at all). What I recall of driving in Oregon and Washington is just generally slow drivers on 2 lane roads, and sometimes scary (curved near blind passing zones in the woods). Colorado has a HUGE left lane hog problem (worst of any state I've driven in). With three lanes going the same direction, the left lane will be *full* all the time and going exactly the same speed as the middle lane. The middle lane will have 30-50% the density of the left lane with no gap large enough to pass more than 1-2 cars in the left lane, and the right lane has a handful of slightly slow cars and even slower semis, and they create passing opportunities. Most passes are done in the right lane just after passing a semi, where there's a gap of up to a quarter mile to the next slow car or truck, where you can pass 30-40 cars parked in the middle and left lane.. merge to middle. wait for it to slowly trickle past the next semi.. rinse, repeat. It's horrible, and I see the lane discipline go to hell when passing into Colorado from any neighboring state (WY, KS, UT, NM) usually within only 5-10 miles. I go from cruising fast in the right, passing in the left, to suddenly an infinite line of cars stuck in the left lane.

  • @Thaiseaweed
    @Thaiseaweed4 жыл бұрын

    One of my new highlights to the week! Please get more attention for ISSIMI

  • @sankimalu
    @sankimalu3 жыл бұрын

    Best driving experience was in California a few years back! Stumbled upon a convoy of fast drivers going from LA to San Diego! I still whisper a prayer for those lovely souls! I hope you are all well. Pretty sure each and everyone is a subscriber...

  • @FLYRIGHTER
    @FLYRIGHTER4 жыл бұрын

    Totally agree with riding motorcycles faster than traffic. Side benefit; sooo much less-likely to get rear ended. Wish we had lane splitting here in Florida. We could use some topography and a lower population of driving vacationers getting lost in unfamiliar rental cars too, while I’m dreaming.

  • @nirfz

    @nirfz

    4 жыл бұрын

    I got rear ended while sitting on a motorcycle years ago: i was sitting at a red light when the guy in the car behind me hit me and knocked me off the bike. To this day i don't know if he just didn't see me, was distracted, had microsleep at 6 in the morning or what ever. What i know is that he wasn't drunk. (i would have noticed in his breath) Speed may help you not getting rear ended in most cases, but when you have to stop you are a static target.

  • @hyogomarume8345
    @hyogomarume83454 жыл бұрын

    Have you driven in Miami? I used to see 3 accidents per day when I lived there. If it rains, make that 5. The most inattentive drivers I’ve seen that don’t understand the concept of hydroplane. It was remarkable... Giving these people a driver’s license is equivalent to giving a teenager a loaded gun. Smh

  • @thecianinator

    @thecianinator

    2 жыл бұрын

    I've driven and been driven all over America, and Miami has the worst drivers I've seen anywhere.

  • @Poorschedriver

    @Poorschedriver

    2 жыл бұрын

    I've rented 2 exotics in Miami and I realized the safest way to drive it to drive like a complete asshole. When I try to obey the law I almost got crashed into so I had to speed and gentley weave. Very oblivious drivers down there.

  • @BigHeadClan
    @BigHeadClan3 жыл бұрын

    Decided to give this a re-watch because I was stuck with nothing but terrible drivers on my commute the other day.

  • @melondoc
    @melondoc4 жыл бұрын

    I'm surprised that you guys didn't mention that in the Bay Area most drivers feel that the safest speed to merge onto the freeway is 35MPH and then spend a few miles slowly accelerating up to 55, while cars in the adjacent lanes are passing at 80 :P

  • @bigk13
    @bigk132 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, just THANK YOU. This sums up my thoughts exactly. I am dumbfounded by the lack of basic driving skill/knowledge these days.

  • @xaviermcquiston1604
    @xaviermcquiston16044 жыл бұрын

    On the East Coast, those are called Virginia, Maryland, and Pennsylvania drivers. Especially Virginia and Pennsylvania.

  • @chuckkourouklis1980

    @chuckkourouklis1980

    4 жыл бұрын

    True dat. I did time in Virginia growing up.

  • @loomi58

    @loomi58

    4 жыл бұрын

    You forgot include North Carolina & South Carolina drivers. Additionally, the poorly maintained roads here make things worse.

  • @Slowcarfastbeans

    @Slowcarfastbeans

    4 жыл бұрын

    Xavier McQuiston Doesn’t matter which state, they’re all fraught with a significant percentage of drivers that create conflicts with they’re driving strategy.

  • @AlumarsX

    @AlumarsX

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Slowcarfastbeans I think Colorado, has the best driver etiquette I've ever seen. People stay on the right lane (enforced by signs almost every mile), they engine brake when going down-hill, and they actually speed up over 90mph when they're passing to keep the flow of traffic. Every other place in the US seems to be shit so far.

  • @obenwahkenobib8899

    @obenwahkenobib8899

    4 жыл бұрын

    Oh my god, so correct. Was going to post this myself, but here it is. Ive driven everywhere except the PacNW so i cant officially compare but the stupidity leaking from our Nations Capitol has ruined the driving skills of all the surrounding states. No self awareness, zero courtesy, no efficiency and absolutely believing that driving is a right not a priviledge. I would give the order slightly differently with Virginia in the lead closely followed by Maryland and then Pennsylvania.

  • @stephenlane2826
    @stephenlane28264 жыл бұрын

    Its also amazing when you're trying to pass someone who has bought real estate in the Left lane and wont move so i go into the right lane cause there is no one else around and start passing and the other guy gets violently angry and speeds up. I cant begin to understand their thought process. Must be they want to keep you behind them. Its insane.

  • @jimf5160
    @jimf51604 жыл бұрын

    having driven recently in Germany, their left lane discipline is still orders of magnitude better than in NA. You never hang out in the left lane unless you are passing...or really hauling ass 140mph+. And as you said, you do not pass on the right...ever.

  • @bluetoes591
    @bluetoes5914 жыл бұрын

    Ironically Washington State also has the pull over to let people pass law. They actually have signs on major two lane routes reminding drivers of this. And here is my rant from last summer... "Dear greater Seattle, what the heck is wrong with the 405? Why does any sane lane choice decision go out the window the second you enter that highway? If I'm passing you on the right you're doing something wrong."

  • @roguedogx
    @roguedogx4 жыл бұрын

    12:33 $20 says autonomous driving programers have no idea that scenario exists.

  • @manofwar577
    @manofwar577 Жыл бұрын

    Jason, this is spot on. As you said, oblivious!, and I'm in Australia!

  • @Sir-Prizse
    @Sir-Prizse2 жыл бұрын

    I did my driving licence in Germany and it's damn hard. It took me a lot of time, money and nerves and I passed the first time. In return, I'm a pretty ok driver now.

  • @Thee_Dr_Evil
    @Thee_Dr_Evil4 жыл бұрын

    Not finding this channel until today, seems like the last 4-6 months have been wasted. Love the content!!!

  • @michelfauteux4500
    @michelfauteux4500 Жыл бұрын

    Jason is SOOO right about driving in Germany. I "speak" German in Montreal and go bonkers within ten seconds of leaving my driveway.

  • @wisdomntshalintshali3296
    @wisdomntshalintshali32964 жыл бұрын

    Dereck Tam-Scot is officially my new hero 😂😂😂😂

  • @majornerd
    @majornerd Жыл бұрын

    This may be the funniest podcast episode I’ve ever heard. The level of frustration is level giggle.

  • @fartzinacan
    @fartzinacan4 жыл бұрын

    For once, KZread recommend something that I actually want to see. It makes me happy to see Jason again.

  • @ocean00742
    @ocean007423 жыл бұрын

    By far my favorite episode. I have seen it multiple times, have made friends watch it. (Passively thinking they will become a better driver) and this will be the first video my kid will watch when he/she learns to drive (Hopefully they have the privilege to drive in next 20 years).

  • @BlueRidgePhantom
    @BlueRidgePhantom4 жыл бұрын

    Carmudgeon is great for driving! I listen to it while cruising to office- helps me entertained and not speeding.

  • @THEsoulquarian
    @THEsoulquarian4 жыл бұрын

    I think NYC gets a bad rap - they’re some of the most defensive drivers, if not the most, in the country. Some of the most aggressive drivers are located in Maryland, particularly in the Baltimore area, and god forsaken South Florida. But yeah, California does have some of the most oblivious, passive drivers I’ve seen in my life...especially in the Bay.

  • @NatoriousGamePlay

    @NatoriousGamePlay

    4 жыл бұрын

    I just don't think Baltimore drivers care. Was driving behind a guy who just slammed his brakes and did a u turn. No indication on what was happening. Or just changing lanes even when a person is at their rear wheels

  • @michaeln.7083
    @michaeln.70834 жыл бұрын

    I live in Md. near Baltimore, I was on the road last week and noticed I smelled a large amount of burnt oil. So pulled up on a guy and told him he was pouring oil from his knocking Chevy truck, he gave me the finger then threw a rod LOL.. whoops

  • @JasonCammisa

    @JasonCammisa

    4 жыл бұрын

    Bwhahaha! That's hilarious!

  • @michaeln.7083

    @michaeln.7083

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@JasonCammisa Keep up the great work you do, I'm a car nerd through and through from old VW Rabbit GTI- 750hp. 15 Mustang.. I respect your opinion in vehicle dynamics and quality keep it up!! Amazing work

  • @DanielSadjadian

    @DanielSadjadian

    4 жыл бұрын

    Instant karma is great 👍

  • @austincook9499
    @austincook94994 жыл бұрын

    Many of the arguments you discuss about defensive driving was inherently taught by driving a motorcycle. I believe all drivers should drive a motorcycle at least once to realize the tons of steel everyone is carelessly driving around.

  • @agisler87

    @agisler87

    4 жыл бұрын

    Can't agree with you more. Whe my wife and I first started dating I made her nervous when driving. Later she realized I drove the car like I am riding, head on a swivel.

  • @JP-ug1xr
    @JP-ug1xr4 жыл бұрын

    Down here in Tampa, Florida, it gets terrible come snow bird season, and just all around bad the rest of the year. With my e36 M, I can squirt between cars and usually make forward progress... with my truck.... It's hopeless.

  • @Rancu634
    @Rancu6342 жыл бұрын

    THANK YOU! It's incredible how many people can't seem to figure this out.

  • @Resist_Oppression
    @Resist_Oppression Жыл бұрын

    As a former NYer and current motorcycle rider, this video sums up the horrific driving and driving laws in the states.

  • @davebarron5939
    @davebarron59393 жыл бұрын

    We in the US teach "laws" NOT DRIVING. I drive 95K a year 320+ miles per day for 10 years now, I related to every story you discussed. Especially the idiots in the left lane oblivious of other vehicles around them. Driving laws are for counties to make money, not create good / safe driving conditions. Cheers!

  • @TrakCar
    @TrakCar4 жыл бұрын

    This is great! I grew up driving in Germany, driving all over the US where I’ve lived now most of my life, it’s like watching myself talk. I hope that everyone will learn from this but on the road most are obliviously annoying and dangerous never learning to be safe.

  • @m.g5163
    @m.g51632 жыл бұрын

    Pretty much all of this applies to driving in Australia; a mixture of obliviousness and psychotic rage.

  • @marburyt
    @marburyt2 жыл бұрын

    Why is KZread just now showing me this golden goose egg?!

  • @hottub2249
    @hottub2249 Жыл бұрын

    This is so spot on. Gets my blood boiling listening because I share their same sentiments! If it were up to me I’d revamp how Americans are trained to drive and it would be more restrictive!

  • @AsinineComment
    @AsinineComment3 жыл бұрын

    The definitions of certain drivers from about 7:25, is fuggin' *gold*! 😂

  • @fuselpeter5393
    @fuselpeter5393 Жыл бұрын

    Lane discipline is getting worse and worse here in Germany. It's driving me nuts. I hate these people to the core.

  • @darylkik6204
    @darylkik62042 жыл бұрын

    The fast lane is for passing. The right lane is for going 35 in a 55 with your blinker on all the time. And answering your text in detail at the same time, while doing your makeup.

  • @raphaelcunha1690
    @raphaelcunha16903 жыл бұрын

    Love how Jason Cammisa literally just voices my mind ....it actually helps subside my road rage LOL

  • @NismoakaNismovsky
    @NismoakaNismovsky2 жыл бұрын

    About Europe: In Poland if the road is to narrow to drive at the very right side of the lane and make the overtaker squeeze between us and a car going the opposite way + the road is twisty and ongoing traffic makes it difficult, we tend to use the one-flash right indicator for the person behind us to let them know that they can overtake us safely (because we see more in front then them after the turn or something). Didn't know that driving in the US can be so annoying but Europe isn't perfect either, by any means (50km/h limits for 500-900 meters because it's "residential area" with 2 houses and nothing more) ;) Kudos for the great show, guys!

  • @lukeeesteve
    @lukeeesteve3 жыл бұрын

    OMG, I literally started feeling road rage laying on my couch....having flashbacks on how people here drive.

  • @JasonRymell
    @JasonRymell4 жыл бұрын

    Yes, yes and yes!!! Jason, I have agreed with your insight over many years when reviewing cars. Now this makes me appreciate you that much more because it is almost like you took the words from my mouth and spoke them yourself! Bravo!!!!!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

  • @jgamble514
    @jgamble5147 ай бұрын

    Literally a sermon, start to finish. This should be shown to EVERY SINGLE PERSON before they can even see a study guide for the drivers test in the US.

  • @user-zz6iv2ou6f
    @user-zz6iv2ou6f3 жыл бұрын

    This is it. I’ve found my spirit animal in Jason Cammisa

  • @michaeldickerson9428
    @michaeldickerson94284 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, thank you!! I live in Seattle and basically use the right lane as the passing lane because it is always open. Drivers here are horrible.

  • @stevendawson2331
    @stevendawson23317 ай бұрын

    Grew up in the East Bay in California, moved to Germany at 22, which was... a couple (dozen) of years ago. I'm still here. Every time I drive when visiting the States, I die on the inside while attempting not to die on the outside. Between the drivers, the health insurance and the guns, I don't see how I could ever move back.

  • @AlfaAddict
    @AlfaAddict4 жыл бұрын

    Germany isn't the same anymore. Often the unrestricted motorway is plagued by a myriad of construction work, lots of traffic and lorrys. The best place to drive is France as they have the smoothest tarmac, the best lane discipline, trucks can't overtake and, due to the size of the country, they have extremely wide roads. Yes it is expensive and they have a speed limit ( but it is a fair speed :130kmh). However, I typically cover 3x the distance in an hour than I do as soon as I cross the border into the UK.

  • @markphillips9596
    @markphillips9596 Жыл бұрын

    Awesome Commentary! One observation though...I'm 58, learned to drive in CA and have spent my whole life in the state. Jason perfectly described my attitude about driving, but we came from near-opposite environments. I think it's more about intelligence and genetics and less about environment.

  • @christopherjohnston6343
    @christopherjohnston63434 жыл бұрын

    The thing about driving languages is really good. Literally a good explanation as to the majority of stuff that is frustrating on the road.

  • @AlumarsX
    @AlumarsX4 жыл бұрын

    I've only been living in the US for 4 years (PR > KS) and the one thing that boils my brain is that people here tend to match your speed or faster if they see you in the rearview mirror going faster than them. Road trips in the midwest are infuriating because I would try to stay in the right lane, and only overtake on the left, but then I'd be blocked in by people that would speed up so that I wouldn't get in front of them on the left lane, and then they'll go down to under the speed limit to box me in behind the car in the right lane FOR MILES. The few times I do manage to get ahead of them at almost triple digits, they immediately slow down to below de limit. That's just terrible driving. I've still not found the perfect way to deal with these people (which seems to be just about everyone as of late) short of upgrading my MK7 Alltrack to 300WHP so I can get out of the hole before these dicks in their 2.0T SUVs box me in.

  • @thecianinator
    @thecianinator2 жыл бұрын

    I took driver's ed in 2006-7, they never once mentioned that left lanes were for passing. In America, we don't call it the passing lane, we call it the fast lane. When my dad told me the left lane was for passing, I didn't believe him for a while.

  • @kanadezosGT
    @kanadezosGT4 жыл бұрын

    Every time "Europe" is mentioned I mentally add "Central" in front of it...because only in Countries like Austria and Germany this behavior exists. Try Greece, Italy, Spain, Latvia and believe me, this behavior does not exist...Still better than driving the I-20 going Downtown Atlanta, but not that civilized.

  • @mothaybabonnam5632

    @mothaybabonnam5632

    4 жыл бұрын

    On topics like this most people imply Northern, Central, and Western Europe. Actually, most of Europe is well behaved. Italy is actually quite good until you get down to Lazio/Rome. Spain is not bad at all. Greece, well they should've been booted long ago.

  • @kanadezosGT

    @kanadezosGT

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@mothaybabonnam5632 Why do you think Greece should've been booted a long time ago? Also I disagree with you regarding Italy. Turin and Milan have really bad road etiquette. Spain is not bad when there are no cars on the road. When I traveled through Spain to go to Lisbon I honestly hoped I was driving through Greece.

  • @jaytucker4338
    @jaytucker4338 Жыл бұрын

    I would like to add that these issues are NOT confined to the US. The driving behaviours in Toronto (that's in Canada folks) has gotten sooo bad. Reverse etiquette appears to be the norm. Example: Speeding up if someone tries to pass you - after all, YOU are the most important driver on the road (sic.). My one basic request, if I had three wishes - this could be one of them, is that people who cannot operate their headlights should have their driving privelages immediately revoked. If you are driving around unaware that your high beans are one, license gone! If you are driving at night and unaware that your headlights are not on, license gone bye-bye. In Toronto, i suspect that invoking such a rule could clear out like 20% of the drivers on the road. Actually, if I had a wish it would be that you would be assigned an automobile based on your skill set...but that's driving fantasy-land. Be safe, co-operate and enjoy! #carmudgeon

  • @yepyep27
    @yepyep272 жыл бұрын

    Totally agree. I spent just over 6 years in Germany. Since returning to the US, I’ve been appalled by the lack of competence shown on the roadways.

  • @muhammadjon25
    @muhammadjon25 Жыл бұрын

    I'm a truck driver, and I deal with these types of "drivers" all the time. And with someone stuck in my left lane, I always flash my left turn signal to get their attention, and they either slow or pass me eventually. It might be wrong, but I think it's the only way to keep myself and mostly them safe.

  • @jonasarche
    @jonasarche4 жыл бұрын

    Great talk as usual. Lucky enough to be from continental Europe where it's MANDATORY to drive on the right lane. Left lane is for overtaking only. Sadly doesn't happen every time and I'm one of those guys on a small old Miata fully scared of old people on X6 or Q7s where they can't even see me! Controlling a ton (or two) of metal is very difficult thing. We should be way more trained!

  • @johndc2998

    @johndc2998

    Жыл бұрын

    It's mandatory here in Canada and the USA too. Doesn't mean people do it. Maybe the difference is in the EU your people actually listen. Unlike France we don't destroy the n a z I speed camera though

  • @jameslewis8227
    @jameslewis82272 жыл бұрын

    Listening to you guys talk about this subject is like hearing the voices in my head while I’m on the freeway. I lived in Europe for 18 years and MAYBE had to pass a car on the right 2-3 times a year. Here in the U.S. rarely a day goes by without having to pass someone on the right. A couple times a month I do it while following a CHP patrol car… I miss driving in Germany so much.

  • @PRRrailfan
    @PRRrailfan4 жыл бұрын

    Couldn't agree more with all of this. Everyone needs to share this with their non-car friends to spread the word!

  • @krmnych_backlog
    @krmnych_backlog4 жыл бұрын

    Here, in Ukraine, obtaining driver's license is a 2.5-month process. DAMN you across the pond got it weird there.

  • @Talynen
    @Talynen4 жыл бұрын

    In the Olympic Peninsula in WA state (Jefferson and Clallam counties) you're required to use turnouts when holding up more than 4 cars. Sadly no one does, even though there are signs saying as much every few miles on 2 lane highways. People either don't care or don't pay attention, like Jason said.

  • @mchristr
    @mchristr3 жыл бұрын

    We all need someone in our lives to show us where lies the edge, and says what we're too proper to voice. Jason is that guy for me.

  • @corywagner8541
    @corywagner85416 ай бұрын

    Washington State has the same law about delay of 5 cars or more is unlawful. But your 100% correct Subarus and Prius drivers are scourge on the road.

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